SexLab Defeat

[Xatos]

Not really an issue but many people have had problems getting creatures to work with this mod. I did multiple tests and wanted to let everyone know the best solution I found was this:

 

I use the mod Alternate Start. Once the game registers the mods you have install Defeat and tweak the options to your liking. Once everything is done then deactivate Defeat and wait for the message to appear. Wait 1 game hour then activate the mod again. If you go down to creature support you should have a list now indicating that the mod now works with creatures.

 

This should be common knowledge but make sure to activate creature animations in Sexlab. I hope this helps.

 

I tried this, and indeed it got a bit better since all the creature animations showed up on the toggle animations list. However while a fresh coc qasmoke character using the room's spawn function allowed me to test riekling animations (well just the 1 solo animation actually), on my actual run which I used the same method to update the creatures, I still could not surrender to wolves despite knowing there are wolf animations.

 

I do have a lot more things going like Death Alternative which I'm unsure of if I am using the wrong set ups. The main page doesn't really cover it "it’s just a question of right settings of both mods." so I'm wondering if that's my main problem, as I also do have issues when I black out (it takes forever for my character to recover from black out).

 

If anyone knows how to properly set up the various ways of Defeat + DA I'd much some advice.

 

But other than that possibility I have no idea what's wrong.

[reikiri]

2. I was trying out the prostituion options and my character gets 19176710 Gold for each job. I am not sure if the prostitution value system is tied to game hours or character level, but it seems quite much. Maybe someone can hint me to the mistake I might be making.

 

Thx

 

Check the value options in MCM menu.  They were set to 0 for me when that happened.  Hovering mouse over value options and pressing key to set them to 'default' fixed it.

[Goubo]

Î just installed this to see the progress, on my playthrough I am still on the 5.1 loose.

 

I noticed some few things and have questions.

 

1. When pressing Shift+O in 5.1 I get the option to choose what type of sex category I want. In 5.3.4 I get to choose the stage instead. Is there an option to get back the menu to choose the category? I usually use hotkeys for swapping the stage I want. If not, is this mod compatible with sexlab tools (I know it is also from you, but I just want to be sure ).

 

2. I was trying out the prostituion options and my character gets 19176710 Gold for each job. I am not sure if the prostitution value system is tied to game hours or character level, but it seems quite much. Maybe someone can hint me to the mistake I might be making.

 

Thx

 1 - Yeah it is, see the function included in Defeat as a light version on SL tools for the people that don't need more than that.

BTW I've seen people complaining about animation pool being not more than 128 (papyrus limlitation of an array) well even if SexLab can register more than 128 animations it dosen't mean it can make more than 125 animations playing at the same time so the animation selector can't display more than 125 animation to choose from.

 

2 - Definitely not normal, something is up with the multipliers, did you touch the values?

[mfaustin]

Do you plan to make the OSA(http://www.loverslab.com/topic/64148-osa-skyrim-ascendancy-engine) version? That would be awesome! 

[xChaosOne]

i was looking some Skyrim videos on naughty machinima, since i recently installed (but haven't tried yet) does the creatures rape you aswell as the humans do in bleedout/blackout?

[I'm The Wabbit]

I don't know if this was asked or not but will Defeat have a feature where people you rape can become your followers?

 

Something like this mod: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/51395-sexlab-submit-recruit-follower/

[Valgo]

 

 

 

 

 

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Cursed Loot is highly customizable. You can turn of the loot events and anything else that binds and just have the sex attacks enabled.

Though you still need to have the whole Devious Devices framework requierements installed.

 

Of course there are other random rape mods out there but none that are as customizable (darkness, nudity, etc...) as far as I am aware.

The simplest one would be horrible harassment I guess.

 

 

 

*shivers* that is just a "horrible" suggestion... LOL - Yes I even tried that one, it really is horrible.

 

Already having over 150 mods installed, I am not about to add unused content to my game if I can avoid it. I think I may have found something that will work for now... Lover's Victim, combat can be disabled. and supposedly they will try to rape a naked NPC as well (going to be testing this one).

 

I am watching one mod Sexlab Rape, it uses Defeat's hooks for sex, if they can beat you (currently it's just more combat). I believe they are going to look into adding a switch that allows you to disable the immediate combat, and turn into a stalker and attempt to take you down, like when you use the Defeat move to take down the NPC from behind.

 

 

I couldn't get Lover's Victim to work myself, but maybe you'll have better luck with it.  Another possible option is PetCollar, it too requires the devious device framework, but there too you don't need to use any 'binding' options.  It'll basically just trigger from arousal threshold.  You can hand-pick which characters (NPC or self) are set as potential victims.

 

 

I got it to work just fine, disabled the combat function, set timer to 0, waited the default time. There was a long pause for the man to decide to jump me, with arousal at 99. And it was quick, just on me. no stalking, just,"you can't hide from me" strip and start... Then finish like nothing happened... Now I have a high chance to be pregnant...*rubs tummy and coos softly*

 

 

Well that (pregnancy) is the kind of mod I will never install hahah.

But it's good to hear that you got it to work.

 

[znaroks]

I have a problem with followers in Defeat.

Basically, if I surrender, me and my follower gets raped, but my follower gets stuck in this trauma state, where she bangs her fist against the floor forever, like this:

 

 

 

And my pc cant get free, because if i resist, I just get a message "An aggressor is watching you" and the struggle bar resets, while my follower just bangs the floor with a fist forever and thee aggressors just stand there and do nothing. And even if I do get free, my follower just keeps sitting in the trauma state while im running for my life, unless I revive her, in which case she fights the aggressors naked.

However, the main problem is that the aggressors stop after raping us both and just stand there, this sort of thing only happens if defeat rapes involve followers. Basically, they just stand there like in the screenshot forever. Meaning, the only way I can end this is by breaking free, but that sucks since the rapists cannot run their course and add DD devices to me or my follower(if thats even possible) and I have to end the gangbang prematurely.

 

I'm thinking that they want to rape the follower again, but they can't because she is in this trauma or something, I even tried disabling escape, trauma, exhaustion, but my follower still does this after getting raped. Does anyone know a solution to this?

 

Also, is there a way to make it so my PC and my follower get raped at the same time?

[Hypnotik]

Hi. I have a (I think recent) problem with the mod. Surrendering does not work correctly anymore with humanoids. It still works ok with creatures though. With bandits for example, they just stop fighting, gather around but animations are not started and after 10 sec or so, I can move again and the bandits resume their attack. Sometimes I see the resist bar flashing once when I surrender. Everything else seems to work ok in the mod. Animations still run correctly after I'm knocked down.

I'm sure it worked in the past, but I don't know if I tried since I updated to 5.3.4.

Any idea what could cause the issue? 

 

[reikiri]

 

2 - Definitely not normal, something is up with the multipliers, did you touch the values?

 

 

For whatever reason, when updating to 5.3.4, all the values in the multipliers were set to zero (0), not the reasonable 'default' values.  The result was as described - got millions of septims.  I'm guessing there was some kind of 'division by zero' style problem that kicked the value through roof.

 

Going to MCM settings, and setting the multipliers to 'default' fixed the issue.

 

 

i was looking some Skyrim videos on naughty machinima, since i recently installed (but haven't tried yet) does the creatures rape you aswell as the humans do in bleedout/blackout?

 

It's an optional feature you can enable (need to have creature support enabled in sexlab, and all the supporting animations and such installed).

[btasqan]

 

Î just installed this to see the progress, on my playthrough I am still on the 5.1 loose.

 

I noticed some few things and have questions.

 

1. When pressing Shift+O in 5.1 I get the option to choose what type of sex category I want. In 5.3.4 I get to choose the stage instead. Is there an option to get back the menu to choose the category? I usually use hotkeys for swapping the stage I want. If not, is this mod compatible with sexlab tools (I know it is also from you, but I just want to be sure ).

 

2. I was trying out the prostituion options and my character gets 19176710 Gold for each job. I am not sure if the prostitution value system is tied to game hours or character level, but it seems quite much. Maybe someone can hint me to the mistake I might be making.

 

Thx

 1 - Yeah it is, see the function included in Defeat as a light version on SL tools for the people that don't need more than that.

BTW I've seen people complaining about animation pool being not more than 128 (papyrus limlitation of an array) well even if SexLab can register more than 128 animations it dosen't mean it can make more than 125 animations playing at the same time so the animation selector can't display more than 125 animation to choose from.

 

2 - Definitely not normal, something is up with the multipliers, did you touch the values?

 

 

I didnt touch the values. I ll try out what reikiri said in order to reset them ans see. I have another question. After the update from 5.1 to the current, every time I use necro options on male (my character is female), my character asumes male role instead of female. Do I have to change a setting so she always asumes her female role?

 

Thx

 

BTW. SL Tools and the defeat feature to select animations is the most advanced we have, so thx. I remember the times I d avoid sexing just because I new I d be skipping animations for the next 30-50 seconds. If you get a way to implement more anims, that would be surely great. For now, I guess many of us are happy with this as it is right now.

 

 

[btasqan]

Ok I reset the values and even cleaning and reconfiguring didnt help. Here is a screenshot:

 

 

EDIT: I finally reset the values. I didnt get it that I REALLY need to just hover over the options and press R.

 

Ok that problem is solved, remains why my female always asumes male role in necro options or when me beieng the agressor.. Any ideas?

[btasqan]

 

 

Ok I reset the values and even cleaning and reconfiguring didnt help. Here is a screenshot:

 

 

EDIT: I finally reset the values. I didnt get it that I REALLY need to just hover over the options and press R.

 

Ok that problem is solved, remains why my female always asumes male role in necro options or when me beieng the agressor.. Any ideas?

 

 

 

Ok I noticed I have to set Female first in necro options. So it works, but for some reason my charcaters often spawn to the entrance of the cell for sex and most times the necro sexing will quit before it started and player will redress.. Hmm

 

[znaroks]

Alright, so I created a video showing a couple of problems when I use defeat with followers, here:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=820_1468434899

 

So what I'm trying to find out is:

1) How do I get aggressors to rape my character and my follower at the same time? (I checked the follower colladoral in defeat)

2) How do i get aggressors rape my follower more than once, instead of raping the follower once and all the remaining aggressors going to town only with my PC

3) Can I make my follower get up, together with my character when I try to escape automatically or at least get up on her own

4) If I revive my follower, can I make her run away instead of fighting (I tried disabling trauma + exhausted and only leave escape, but follower goes into trauma regardless)

5) Is the only means of escape from a rape like this is with the resist bar, like in the video, or should the aggressors let us go, like they always do when my pc is alone

 

Thanks

[learnedcock]

I used the MCM to disable animations tagged with things like "rape" and "forced" from playing on consensual scenes. It isn't working, plus I still have a huge list to scroll through with SexLab tools. I've also disabled bestiality, but still get messages that random creatures are moving towards victim.

 

I also can't seem to delete tags I've accidentally set in MCM. Is there an external file I can edit manually?

Also, is there a way to reset the MCM entirely without doing a full clean save?

[aesir150]

Is there no way to change the market value for prostitution (not handing over)? Every single time I try to pimp my character out, he only asks for 1 septim?

 

Edit: Seems there was a bug that time... which for some reason kept on making my character asking for only 1 septim.

 

I reloaded my game it seemed to fix the bug... but jesus my character is getting 62 million septims each time...

 

I think the multiplier settings need a better interface... its too hard to tell what the current values are, or what formula is.

[corrupt]

How to rape as a werewofl? I pressed G on the npc but nothing happen.

[bicobus]

You need sexlab werewolves.

[flapperlass]

Erh, not sure if this is Defeat's or SexLab's fault, but every time my character is assaulted, her weapons are dropped, rather than unequipped. I have searched the MCMs for both mods, without being able to find a setting that just unequips them (or, if there is one, it doesn't work). I'm sure I didn't have this issue before... 

[srayesmanll]

Erh, not sure if this is Defeat's or SexLab's fault, but every time my character is assaulted, her weapons are dropped, rather than unequipped. I have searched the MCMs for both mods, without being able to find a setting that just unequips them (or, if there is one, it doesn't work). I'm sure I didn't have this issue before... 

 

Take a closer look in Defeat's MCM.  The settings are there.  In the sections dealing with NPC/followers and PC as victims (and PC as rapist as well), at the bottom (SCROLL DOWN) there are options for various slots (armor and weapons are specified, plus 3-4 other slots) that you can set what to do with those items when the victim is raped.  The option to "drop" them is called "strip" I believe.  Change it to "unequip".  You can also set them be stolen, and other options (5 or 6 - don't remember off-hand).

[flapperlass]

 

Erh, not sure if this is Defeat's or SexLab's fault, but every time my character is assaulted, her weapons are dropped, rather than unequipped. I have searched the MCMs for both mods, without being able to find a setting that just unequips them (or, if there is one, it doesn't work). I'm sure I didn't have this issue before... 

 

Take a closer look in Defeat's MCM.  The settings are there.  In the sections dealing with NPC/followers and PC as victims (and PC as rapist as well), at the bottom (SCROLL DOWN) there are options for various slots (armor and weapons are specified, plus 3-4 other slots) that you can set what to do with those items when the victim is raped.  The option to "drop" them is called "strip" I believe.  Change it to "unequip".  You can also set them be stolen, and other options (5 or 6 - don't remember off-hand).

 

 

Okay, this is how it looks for me:

 

As you can tell I'm not able to change anything on the left side, and the second shot is practically all I can do on the right side... Is there something I'm not seeing? 

[srayesmanll]

 

 

Erh, not sure if this is Defeat's or SexLab's fault, but every time my character is assaulted, her weapons are dropped, rather than unequipped. I have searched the MCMs for both mods, without being able to find a setting that just unequips them (or, if there is one, it doesn't work). I'm sure I didn't have this issue before... 

 

Take a closer look in Defeat's MCM.  The settings are there.  In the sections dealing with NPC/followers and PC as victims (and PC as rapist as well), at the bottom (SCROLL DOWN) there are options for various slots (armor and weapons are specified, plus 3-4 other slots) that you can set what to do with those items when the victim is raped.  The option to "drop" them is called "strip" I believe.  Change it to "unequip".  You can also set them be stolen, and other options (5 or 6 - don't remember off-hand).

 

 

Okay, this is how it looks for me:

20160714224356_1.jpg 20160714230227_1.jpg

 

As you can tell I'm not able to change anything on the left side, and the second shot is practically all I can do on the right side... Is there something I'm not seeing? 

 

 

Think you've got something else going on there.  On the left side, next to each item in the list (Weapon, Armor Piece 1, etc), you should see a pulldown with the settings I mentioned before (strip, unequip, ignore, etc).  I'm not at home to verify what it looks like on mine - I'll check it when I get home.  Did you upgrade defeat recently?

[Attenater]

Is there any way to get the older version of defeat, the one for sexlab 1.59c?

[reikiri]

 

 

 

Erh, not sure if this is Defeat's or SexLab's fault, but every time my character is assaulted, her weapons are dropped, rather than unequipped. I have searched the MCMs for both mods, without being able to find a setting that just unequips them (or, if there is one, it doesn't work). I'm sure I didn't have this issue before... 

 

Take a closer look in Defeat's MCM.  The settings are there.  In the sections dealing with NPC/followers and PC as victims (and PC as rapist as well), at the bottom (SCROLL DOWN) there are options for various slots (armor and weapons are specified, plus 3-4 other slots) that you can set what to do with those items when the victim is raped.  The option to "drop" them is called "strip" I believe.  Change it to "unequip".  You can also set them be stolen, and other options (5 or 6 - don't remember off-hand).

 

 

Okay, this is how it looks for me:

20160714224356_1.jpg 20160714230227_1.jpg

 

As you can tell I'm not able to change anything on the left side, and the second shot is practically all I can do on the right side... Is there something I'm not seeing? 

 

 

Think you've got something else going on there.  On the left side, next to each item in the list (Weapon, Armor Piece 1, etc), you should see a pulldown with the settings I mentioned before (strip, unequip, ignore, etc).  I'm not at home to verify what it looks like on mine - I'll check it when I get home.  Did you upgrade defeat recently?

 

 

That MCM menu looks busted for sure.. I'm thinking your guess about upgrade is likely right - I've had similar issues when upgrading mods.  Clean uninstall and reinstall would be one option, a bit more simpler thing to try would be to force upgrade on MCM menus with console:

setstage ski_configmanagerinstance 1

That aside though, those strip options won't help at least for me, when using the 'surrender' option.  It prompts a dialogue and weapons are dropped with the dialogue.  E.g. "Drop your weapon" *clink*.  I've found no way to change that, so I instead use workaround.  I have set up favorite group without weapons, and set SkyUI MCM menu general tab for that group to 'unequip hands'.  So when I get to that dialogue, before I have chance to drop the weapons, I just hit that favorite group to unequip them to 'hide' the weapons into inventory.  A bit tedious, but works.

 

From what I can tell it seems that's just one dialogue option that can appear on surrender, but it's unaffected by those MCM settings.

[Azurahawk]

Now I'm having an issue with the untie and rape animation e.e it's acting like a back button