SexLab Defeat

[WaxenFigure]

Any idea why defeat will not install?  It's always been reliable until I started again today. thanks for any assistance.

 

You didn't give much (any details) to work with but the first thought I had was that you may have an incomplete download, that is the most common source of "mod won't install" problems.

[Eonfluxx]

Fuck... I just wrote a whole post and accidentally hit ctrl R or something in my browser.  Here I go again haha.

 

I'm not that guy, but I'm also having trouble with Defeat right now.  I'm not new to modding, but I reinstalled Skyrim and mods a few days ago.  Defeat's the only one that's been giving me trouble.

 

Here's what happened so far:

Defeat would show in the MCM, and after clicking install, it wouldn't install, even after hours of playing and waiting.

I did the clean save option and then Defeat wouldn't show in the MCM at all.

Then after reading various searches (posting is always my last resort), I disabled Defeat, reinstalled SexLab within the MCM, and clean saved Defeat again, and now it won't show in the MCM.  I have tried having Defeat at the top, bottom and LOOT preference load orders and it still doesn't show in the MCM.

 

Here is my FNIS order.  I don't see any warnings:

 

 

FNIS Behavior V6.2 12/8/2015 9:12:07 AM
Skyrim: 1.9.32.0 - C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\ (Steam)

Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS (242 bones) male: XPMS (242 bones)
Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations"
Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix"

Reading Defeat V5 ( 0 furniture, 2 offset, 3 paired, 1 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ...
Reading DeviousDevices V2.9.2 ...
Reading EstrusChaurus V4.20a ...
Reading FNISBase V6.2 ...
Reading FNISCreatureVersion V6.1 ...
Reading FNISSexyMove V6.1 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 18 alternate animations) ...
Reading MNC V?.? ...
Reading SexLab V1.60 ...
Reading SexLabAroused V?.? ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.60 ...
Reading XPMSE V6.1 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 152 alternate animations) ...
Reading ZaZAnimationPack V6.0.5 ( 26 furniture, 29 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ...

All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files ...
No GENDER directory male
1 GENDER modifications for Animations\female
mt_behavior usage: 23.4 % ( 26 furniture, 31 offset, 0 chair, 6 alternate animations)
0_master usage: 6.3 % ( 3 paired, 1 kill, 80 alternate animations)
Alternate Animation mods: 2 sets: 17 total groups: 33 added file slots: 174 alternate files: 170

Create Creature Behaviors ...
Reading MNC V?.? ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.60 ...

2624 animations for 12 mods successfully included (character)
954 animations for 2 mods and 37 creatures successfully included.

 

 

Have any ideas?  Am I missing something?

 

Thanks for reading

[WaxenFigure]

Fuck... I just wrote a whole post and accidentally hit ctrl R or something in my browser.  Here I go again haha.

 

I'm not that guy, but I'm also having trouble with Defeat right now.  I'm not new to modding, but I reinstalled Skyrim and mods a few days ago.  Defeat's the only one that's been giving me trouble.

 

Here's what happened so far:

Defeat would show in the MCM, and after clicking install, it wouldn't install, even after hours of playing and waiting.

I did the clean save option and then Defeat wouldn't show in the MCM at all.

Then after reading various searches (posting is always my last resort), I disabled Defeat, reinstalled SexLab within the MCM, and clean saved Defeat again, and now it won't show in the MCM.  I have tried having Defeat at the top, bottom and LOOT preference load orders and it still doesn't show in the MCM.

 

Here is my FNIS order.  I don't see any warnings:

 

 

FNIS Behavior V6.2 12/8/2015 9:12:07 AM

Skyrim: 1.9.32.0 - C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\ (Steam)

 

Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS (242 bones) male: XPMS (242 bones)

Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations"

Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix"

 

Reading Defeat V5 ( 0 furniture, 2 offset, 3 paired, 1 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ...

Reading DeviousDevices V2.9.2 ...

Reading EstrusChaurus V4.20a ...

Reading FNISBase V6.2 ...

Reading FNISCreatureVersion V6.1 ...

Reading FNISSexyMove V6.1 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 18 alternate animations) ...

Reading MNC V?.? ...

Reading SexLab V1.60 ...

Reading SexLabAroused V?.? ...

Reading SexLabCreature V1.60 ...

Reading XPMSE V6.1 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 152 alternate animations) ...

Reading ZaZAnimationPack V6.0.5 ( 26 furniture, 29 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ...

 

All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files ...

No GENDER directory male

1 GENDER modifications for Animations\female

mt_behavior usage: 23.4 % ( 26 furniture, 31 offset, 0 chair, 6 alternate animations)

0_master usage: 6.3 % ( 3 paired, 1 kill, 80 alternate animations)

Alternate Animation mods: 2 sets: 17 total groups: 33 added file slots: 174 alternate files: 170

 

Create Creature Behaviors ...

Reading MNC V?.? ...

Reading SexLabCreature V1.60 ...

 

2624 animations for 12 mods successfully included (character)

954 animations for 2 mods and 37 creatures successfully included.

 

 

Have any ideas?  Am I missing something?

 

Thanks for reading

What version of SkyUI are you using? The older versions have a KNOWN BUG where they will not show the MCM menu for some mods and the recommended solution was to use the console command "setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1" to get SKUI to rebuild the MCM menus.

[Aijra]

Good evening everyone,

I am running into a slight issue with Defeat. I had no problems installing this modifcation or any required ones.

The defeat configuration shows up in the Skyrim Menu, the only problem I am having is that once I surrender (Default: K) the NPC replies with "come here" and performs a wave animation and that is about it...I cannot move, nothing happens after the NPC has finished the "wave animation", so any leads on how I can resolve this?

 

Yes, I have run "GenerateFNISforUsers" and it detects Defeat and updates the animations accordingly.

 

Any help would be much appreciated,

thank you!

 

[Goubo]

Shit I think I know why some of you can't install it, try installing UIExtensions or Extensible Follower Framework (UIExtensions is integrated to Extensible Follower Framework so you only need one of those, EFF being the best followers framework imo)

 

I used the direct method to using the framework with one function and for testing purposes (teleport to tied people function) and I forgot to convert it to the inderect way...

so the script will look for this mod and make it fail if you don't have it preventing Defeat from installing, sorry about that.

[Eonfluxx]

 

What version of SkyUI are you using? The older versions have a KNOWN BUG where they will not show the MCM menu for some mods and the recommended solution was to use the console command "setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1" to get SKUI to rebuild the MCM menus.

 

 

I don't know the exact version (actually let me go check the newest), but all my mods are the most modern as of 2 days ago.  Nexus says the newest version is 5.1, so it must be that one.

 

 

Posted Today, 10:11 AMGoubo

 

Shit I think I know why some of you can't install it, try installing UIExtensions or Extensible Follower Framework (UIExtensions is integrated to Extensible Follower Framework so you only need one of those, EFF being the best followers framework imo)

 

I used the direct method to using the framework with one function and for testing purposes (teleport to tied people function) and I forgot to convert it to the inderect way...

so the script will look for this mod and make it fail if you don't have it preventing Defeat from installing, sorry about that.

 

 

Okay, when I get home in a few hours I'll try EFF.  And if for some reason that doesn't work, I'll do the Sky UI Console command.

 

When I get home:

EFF -> FNIS -> LOOT -> Hopefully it will show in the MCM/install in-game properly

 

Thanks kind friends

[aqqh]

Goubo

is there some way to block SL Defeat scene from triggering?

 

I want to make a scene when player would have to fight someone

and if they loose something would happen

but SL Defeat scene wont rly fit there

 

Are there any factions excluded from triggering a player victim scene for example?

[4love10]

Shit I think I know why some of you can't install it, try installing UIExtensions or Extensible Follower Framework (UIExtensions is integrated to Extensible Follower Framework so you only need one of those, EFF being the best followers framework imo)

 

I used the direct method to using the framework with one function and for testing purposes (teleport to tied people function) and I forgot to convert it to the inderect way...

so the script will look for this mod and make it fail if you don't have it preventing Defeat from installing, sorry about that.

the mod won't install for me neither, i don't have UIExtensions or Exntensible follower Framework because i just don't need them,i already have 254 esp,you gonna make a patch?

[Goubo]

 

Shit I think I know why some of you can't install it, try installing UIExtensions or Extensible Follower Framework (UIExtensions is integrated to Extensible Follower Framework so you only need one of those, EFF being the best followers framework imo)

 

I used the direct method to using the framework with one function and for testing purposes (teleport to tied people function) and I forgot to convert it to the inderect way...

so the script will look for this mod and make it fail if you don't have it preventing Defeat from installing, sorry about that.

the mod won't install for me neither, i don't have UIExtensions or Exntensible follower Framework because i just don't need them,i already have 254 esp,you gonna make a patch?

 

Sure I will, asap.

Goubo

is there some way to block SL Defeat scene from triggering?

 

I want to make a scene when player would have to fight someone

and if they loose something would happen

but SL Defeat scene wont rly fit there

 

Are there any factions excluded from triggering a player victim scene for example?

You can get the reference alias PlayerFaction on the quest DefeatPlayerQST, putting the player in it will prevent a scene to happen, it will need to be cleared once your event is finished though.

 

What I can do however for a better compatibility is to add a vanilla keyword check that would prevent a scene from triggering, you would just have to add the player in a reference alias that have this keyword on it. (FavorBrawlEvent keyword for example)

 

I can also use the brawling faction DGIntimidateFaction as a check.

[aqqh]

would just have to add the player in a reference alias that have this keyword on it. (FavorBrawlEvent keyword for example)

done

[Eonfluxx]

Yeah it still doesn't work for me.  I don't know what to do at this point

Hello again. I downloaded EFF and still couldn't see Defeat in the MSM (it's weird that I don't even see it now, yet I saw it before). I don't know if this will help, but here's a list of my mods http://i.imgur.com/bpE6JQD.png Anyone have any ideas? I'm still messing around with stuff trying to get it to show

[Freemaster]

Please tell me there is a way to change the nord voices used in the trauma state? The rest of the mod is great but this is just horrible... Can they be replaced with more normal sounding voicing?

[Arissa44]

any updpate on the issue of when i tell a companioon to rape them and i choice rape with them it just keep spamwing it over and over and never acutly do the group rape.

I got this bug to really strange all work fine 2 days ago what i do on my setup mods is : install sexslave update fnis to 6.2 and xpms 3.5 so far all work great no more freeze or cdt at all etc .. but nevermind.

 

then i remove sexslave and defeat won't threesome , i guess it's something have been messup in the process but i can't find what even with reinstall defeat and re-patch fnis again.

 

Edit: After some test it's work on exhausted target and sleeping but not tied up target

[Goubo]

If it would really help, I could try to reproduce this with an even more minimal configuration, if you have any suggestion for mods to load and settings to use. It would be a few days before I'd have time to get to it.

Do the freezes happen when a SexLab scene is about to begin?

 

Yeah it still doesn't work for me.  I don't know what to do at this point

 

Hello again. I downloaded EFF and still couldn't see Defeat in the MSM (it's weird that I don't even see it now, yet I saw it before). I don't know if this will help, but here's a list of my mods http://i.imgur.com/bpE6JQD.png Anyone have any ideas? I'm still messing around with stuff trying to get it to show

Take a look at your papryrus log please, if something stops Defeat from installing there should be errors about it.

 

Please tell me there is a way to change the nord voices used in the trauma state? The rest of the mod is great but this is just horrible... Can they be replaced with more normal sounding voicing?

What do you mean? You can disable "Player Commentaries" in MCM for he player to stop talking if that's what you mean, I'll add the option for npc vs npc.

 

 

any updpate on the issue of when i tell a companioon to rape them and i choice rape with them it just keep spamwing it over and over and never acutly do the group rape.

I got this bug to really strange all work fine 2 days ago what i do on my setup mods is : install sexslave update fnis to 6.2 and xpms 3.5 so far all work great no more freeze or cdt at all etc .. but nevermind.

 

then i remove sexslave and defeat won't threesome , i guess it's something have been messup in the process but i can't find what even with reinstall defeat and re-patch fnis again.

 

Make sure at leat one threesome animation is enabled in SexLa's mcm in aggressive animations.

[naqn]

This is details on my bug report from the previous site.

 

Using player as victim on a minimal load order, I saw frequent freezes during sex attacks. I was doing some testing with the the three bandits outside of Bleak Falls Barrow, changing a lot of settings to try and get Defeat + DA working. So my tests were always with three bandit attackers. The freezes were always after the first or second sex scene, before the next one began.  I'd say I got freezes about 10% of the time.

 

The load order had only SexLab mods (except for USLEEP and Alternate Start). Defeat, SD+, the requirements for both, and a lot of animations. Definitely NSLAP and FunnyBizness, maybe MoreNastyCritters. Whenever I use MoreNastyCritters I turn creature arousal off.

 

I checked my Papyrus log and there weren't any stack dumps or error messages.

 

 

A fix would be cool because I really like a mod that does something very simple - have a sex attack then get your stuff stolen by one of the attackers.

 

I actually found a really cool way to set it up that provides an incentive to surrender. I set Defeat to a 100% chance of having all of your money and items stolen. Then I set Death Alternative to also have a 100% chance of brigands stealing all your money and items, but having some of those items be permanently lost.

 

That way, if you surrender using Defeat your attacker takes your stuff, and the DA brigands can't take anything because you have nothing left. If you don't surrender, the DA brigands get your stuff, some of it's permanently lost, and you have to travel and buy the rest back.

 

It makes the same really intense because when a fight is going wrong, do you surrender and cut your losses, or take a big chance?

 

 

If it would really help, I could try to reproduce this with an even more minimal configuration, if you have any suggestion for mods to load and settings to use. It would be a few days before I'd have time to get to it.

 

try to disable NSAP or uncheck all animation of NSAP.

 

it worked for me.

[Arissa44]

I confirm i have tag all threesome animations as agressive one but it's don't work , with tied up victim (i play as male and disable pc as victim)

for the freeze guys i got many many frreeze as well before i update fnis and xpme to the last vesion it's solve all the freeze stuff for me.

[DarkRavage]

Hey goubo, is it possible to implement enslavement into this mod which allows PC to capture surrendered npc? Also can there a be a dressing function for tied up npc?

[Eonfluxx]

 

Take a look at your papryrus log please, if something stops Defeat from installing there should be errors about it.

 

Well TBH, when I set up my papyrus, it never made a log folder.  I don't think it's about an in-game install issue at this point, because it doesn't even show in the MCM.  Maybe I screwed something up by installing too many mods at once.  Maybe I should just delete and start a fresh Skyrim folder?

 

I think I'll just start a fresh Skyrim install... I don't have anything to do today anyways

 

I'll just install one mod at a time this time, and do Defeat last.  Is it okay to use NMM just for Defeat?  Because I prefer to install mods manually

[Caliban44]

 

 

Take a look at your papryrus log please, if something stops Defeat from installing there should be errors about it.

 

Well TBH, when I set up my papyrus, it never made a log folder.  I don't think it's about an in-game install issue at this point, because it doesn't even show in the MCM.  Maybe I screwed something up by installing too many mods at once.  Maybe I should just delete and start a fresh Skyrim folder?

 

I think I'll just start a fresh Skyrim install... I don't have anything to do today anyways

 

I'll just install one mod at a time this time, and do Defeat last.  Is it okay to use NMM just for Defeat?  Because I prefer to install mods manually

 

if mods are not showing up for you in the mcm try jaxonz mcm kicker over at the nexus

[Eonfluxx]

Defeat works now.  I must have f-ed something up when I reinstalled all my mods the other day.  Thanks for all the assistance friends  Reinstalling a few mods at a time, instead of a ton at a time is certainly a much smarter thing lol.

[Arissa44]

i got a new bug.. this one is mutch annoying ,when i have 2 or more follower sometimes they stuck herself and don't want to move , you can order to move at push them but they came back on the spot , resetai , enable , disable , no command work ( i know it because i got this bug and fucked up rayya with console command x2 etc now she is naked in my house)

 

the only way i found for unstuck the is , if you got MO disable defeat load your save , save , reinstalle defeat and they follow again , i use EFF but i got his problem with the 3 follower mods UFO and AFT.

 

so for nos i have disable the "auto agression" from the follower like it's recomand , if someone have the same bug and dunno what to do...

[pc871226]

I really like your mod, but the problem is sometimes the sex between aggressor and my followers wont start. It's like the aggressor walked towards the follower, the follower is in a surrender position, and then the aggressor just stand there and do nothing..... but sometimes it will trigger. What do you think might be the problem? Thanks!

[Goubo]

Hey goubo, is it possible to implement enslavement into this mod which allows PC to capture surrendered npc? Also can there a be a dressing function for tied up npc?

I did add a line of dialogue to connect the enslavement function of Paradise Halls SLExtension but I did not test it properly.

 

i got a new bug.. this one is mutch annoying ,when i have 2 or more follower sometimes they stuck herself and don't want to move , you can order to move at push them but they came back on the spot , resetai , enable , disable , no command work ( i know it because i got this bug and fucked up rayya with console command x2 etc now she is naked in my house)

 

the only way i found for unstuck the is , if you got MO disable defeat load your save , save , reinstalle defeat and they follow again , i use EFF but i got his problem with the 3 follower mods UFO and AFT.

 

so for nos i have disable the "auto agression" from the follower like it's recomand , if someone have the same bug and dunno what to do...

What in Defeat lead them to be stuck? Be more specific please.

Btw if its from Defeat use clean up function this should fix issues like this, no need to mess with the console.

 

I really like your mod, but the problem is sometimes the sex between aggressor and my followers wont start. It's like the aggressor walked towards the follower, the follower is in a surrender position, and then the aggressor just stand there and do nothing..... but sometimes it will trigger. What do you think might be the problem? Thanks!

I would say SexLab can't start a scene for some reason, check papyrus log.

[RedMonika]

Thank you!

[pc871226]

Thanks for the reply! I wasn't expecting getting support!

Still some more question regarding my previous post

"I really like your mod, but the problem is sometimes the sex between aggressor and my followers wont start. It's like the aggressor walked towards the follower, the follower is in a surrender position, and then the aggressor just stand there and do nothing..... but sometimes it will trigger. What do you think might be the problem? Thanks!"

See the problem is sometimes the sex involving followers will start, sometimes it won't.

Where do you think in sexlab option would result in this.behavior? Thanks again