darky3000 Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 After I've been raped once, and struggle my way out of trauma, it's impossible to surrender to the same people. Is that on purpose? What precisely is causing that? You can surrender to same people but you need to move from them and then get back, at least that was a case with me with 1,59c version of sexlab.
Colascage Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Npc vs Npc doesn't work. Same goes for Player as victim. I get knocked down / I can surrender but they'll just leave.
Faidden Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Where can I find V5b3.3? I've been searching everywhere and can only find V5.1
Slorm Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Where can I find V5b3.3? I've been searching everywhere and can only find V5.1 You'll find it here http://www.loverslab.com/topic/19941-defeat-v510/?p=1331556
srayesmanll Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Where can I find V5b3.3? I've been searching everywhere and can only find V5.1 Of course using the search in the top right of the thread and search for 5b3.3 would have found the posts for the link as well...
greenhell666 Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 I installed this mod and the surrender 'K' didn't work. I'm going back to the older version (5beta3.3). Also the new rape command sucks.
Dars3 Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 But I don't think there's anything wrong on the menu. When I surrendered and chose Lydia to be assaulted, the bandit approached her and removed her clothes. They just didn't start the animation for some reason. He kept staring at her doing nothing. If the bandit removed Lydia's armour and is about to rape her but no animation starts, then you have SL issue. When I had that problem, "Rebuild & clean" option in SL MCM menu solved this problem. If you decide to do that, save your game on the new slot, exit, reload the game and open SL MCM menu and do the tweaking. I just tried doing that and it's still happening. And I noticed that if I try to spawn a bandit using the console commands and then surrender, the bandit assaults Lydia just fine. But when I attack bandits on a fort, a tower or something, it won't work. I also noticed that the bandit won't remove her clothes. Lydia removes them when I ask her, but when the bandit approaches her to take her weapon, he won't do it. EDIT: Okay, I just noticed that Defeat is listed as problematic on the SL compatible mods topic (due to issues with the SL scenes). So I'll just play like this and wait for the next update. Maybe I'll try the older version to see if it still works like last time.
ButchDiavolo Posted October 15, 2015 Posted October 15, 2015 so i have the mod working and everything but after i did the blacksmith chick in whiterun without her consent i brought her to my whiterun house then did stuff to her and after everything i owned and touched became stolen not just in whiterun but everywhere no guards wanted to take me to jail or nothing even my horse was flagged as stolen so i killed my horse bought a new 1 and it was auto flagged as stolen which makes it useless cause then i can't use my horse whistle and i couldn't sell anything anywhere either cause everything i touched got flagged as stolen im gonna try this mod again but i had tio start my game over any suggestions why this would happen or how to fix it. and yes i was using the unnoficial skyrim patch. I have had this happen a few times as well. I have not been able to figure out why or how this happens. Perhaps it has to do with raping NPCs marked as friend or ally? (Just a guess based on my observations). I have also never managed to figure out how to stop everything being marked as stolen or not your property (even if you DO own it). The only way I could get rid of it, was by going back to a save from before the rape happened. And asking friends and allies for sex the polite way...
Nazzzgul666 Posted October 15, 2015 Posted October 15, 2015 Hi, i'm not sure if my problem is actually caused by Defeat, it might be SD+ or Death alternative as well, or even a HDT thing, but i hope i can get some help here anyways Most times i get defeated, my character is placed somehwere _very_ high, usually over a Giants camp, falling down, a load screen appears, i get back, and after that my physics go weird... not allways all objects, butt usually still workds fine, hairs are almost always a few miles straight in any directions, titties sometimes jump around. Sometimes the loadscreen doesn't appear and i just crash down. I'm pretty sure smething is wrong with my configuration/load order and it's no common bug, i just have no clue where to search for it. I ran LOOT for loadorder but nothing changed, i changed some things manually, but nothing changed (not sure if i always made a clear save after that though). Any ideas what might be my problem? Is the load screen meant to be there at all? *Edit* Ok, i know it's not caused by Defeat, just had the same with an aroused creature trigger... nevertheless, any help would be appreciated, i don't know this forum well enough if i should remove my post or make an own topic, unless someone tells me something else, i'll let it here and hope it's ok.
ButchDiavolo Posted October 15, 2015 Posted October 15, 2015 Hi, i'm not sure if my problem is actually caused by Defeat, it might be SD+ or Death alternative as well, or even a HDT thing, but i hope i can get some help here anyways Most times i get defeated, my character is placed somehwere _very_ high, usually over a Giants camp, falling down, a load screen appears, i get back, and after that my physics go weird... not allways all objects, butt usually still workds fine, hairs are almost always a few miles straight in any directions, titties sometimes jump around. Sometimes the loadscreen doesn't appear and i just crash down. I'm pretty sure smething is wrong with my configuration/load order and it's no common bug, i just have no clue where to search for it. I ran LOOT for loadorder but nothing changed, i changed some things manually, but nothing changed (not sure if i always made a clear save after that though). Any ideas what might be my problem? Is the load screen meant to be there at all? I have read on the forums about this happening to others as well, but unfortunately I can't remember exactly what topic. (sorry). I didn't pay too much attention, because it never has happened to me. Try doing a search in the SexLab hotfix topic and search for "Merida", since most people compared it to the airlifting during the Merida quest.
kindashy Posted October 15, 2015 Posted October 15, 2015 After I've been raped once, and struggle my way out of trauma, it's impossible to surrender to the same people. Is that on purpose? What precisely is causing that? Also, everytime I rape an NPC and they are tied up, the bondage animations aren't registering, neither are the aggressives if I say to untie my victim first. I don't think it has to do with defeat, but I might have the settings between Sexlab/ZaZ/Defeat etc. confused. So if anyone can recommend me a way to get the right animations triggered, I'd appreciate that. I've done Sexlab cleanups and rebuilds, that hasn't changed much. I believe there is a timer in the MCM under "Player as a Victim" called "Satisfied". Any NPC or creature will not be able to rape you again until that timeframe is exceeded. I have mine set to 30 seconds, 'cause what's the fun in waiting 4 or 5 minutes for another go?
Nazzzgul666 Posted October 15, 2015 Posted October 15, 2015 hmmm there i found only one post that mentioned it's like in the merida quest, but no solution to it... at least i found that way somebody with the same problem, i wrote him a message if he found a solution which isn't mentioned in the topic, so if nobody here has an idea, thatnks for your hint
spyke123 Posted October 15, 2015 Posted October 15, 2015 I like this mod, great work !! Having a slight problem though... the dialogues does not seem to play for me... Everything else works... I get knocked down, (by a female agressor), she comes over, take my weapon and all that but its all quiet... the moans and sex plays tho... and i get the "no more I yield" from the player... but not anything from the dialogue. Anyone had this problem Before ? Am I missing something obvious ?
wildtangent Posted October 15, 2015 Posted October 15, 2015 I like this mod, great work !! Having a slight problem though... the dialogues does not seem to play for me... Everything else works... I get knocked down, (by a female agressor), she comes over, take my weapon and all that but its all quiet... the moans and sex plays tho... and i get the "no more I yield" from the player... but not anything from the dialogue. Anyone had this problem Before ? Am I missing something obvious ? Do you have Fuz Ro D-oh installed? I know it isn't listed as a requirement, but I'm pretty sure all the rapist dialogue is silent (text). Could be wrong but that's the way it is in my game.
joemonco Posted October 15, 2015 Posted October 15, 2015 Thank you very much for removing the Death Alternative dependency. I still think the QTE is a massive step backwards from the hotkey menu, but you are improving your mod, so kudos for that. You've also created a leveling exploit with the trauma animation on essential NPCs. Kill everyone in a civil war camp than attack the essential general, rape him, then repeatedly smack him around with your sword/low level destruction spells while he is in trauma. I don't think the bounty you have listed on the upcoming features will deter this.
Nazzzgul666 Posted October 15, 2015 Posted October 15, 2015 I found a solution for my falling bug, with much less work than described in other places, might help whomever has the same problem: Starting new game, with just the same mods. I've waited some real time and ~8 hours in the abandoned prison from Alternative start, installed sexlab and defeat via MCM, included creature animations, saved out of whiterun, run into two giants and was fucked until my game crashed (with defeat + aroused creatures you should do some micromanagement for a chance to escape ). After loading old savegame, everything was fine again. I don't know which of this all is really necessary, but it's still a quite fast workaround to solve it even if all is necessary
izumonoryu Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Defeat 5.1.0 is hanging Skyrim when it comes to playing the strip animation on me or on the follower. Any idea why that might happen? I'm on SL1.6. Edit: I've been choosing Surrender so far.
Caliban44 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Defeat 5.1.0 is hanging Skyrim when it comes to playing the strip animation on me or on the follower. Any idea why that might happen? I'm on SL1.6. Edit: I've been choosing Surrender so far. update sexlab to hot fix2 and see if that fixes your problem, can't be more helpful as your problem has never happened to me
DarkMist67 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 After upgrading defeat and sexlab to the latest versions, gangrape with creatures seems to be completely broken. I dont know if its also broken with other enemies but it definitely is with creatures, regardless of settings. Before there was no problems having 3+ enemies participating but now its maximim of 1 most of the time. Draugr i have managed to get 2, but never 3 or more like usual. Hopefully all these random bugs get fixed soon, because i love all the functionalities and features of the latest versions, but losing out on all those animations really makes me torn on which version i want to use for a full playthrough
izumonoryu Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Defeat 5.1.0 is hanging Skyrim when it comes to playing the strip animation on me or on the follower. Any idea why that might happen? I'm on SL1.6. Edit: I've been choosing Surrender so far. update sexlab to hot fix2 and see if that fixes your problem, can't be more helpful as your problem has never happened to me I turned on Undress Animation in SL and that seems to have fixed it. Weird
jlttsmiley Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 After upgrading defeat and sexlab to the latest versions, gangrape with creatures seems to be completely broken. I dont know if its also broken with other enemies but it definitely is with creatures, regardless of settings. Before there was no problems having 3+ enemies participating but now its maximim of 1 most of the time. Draugr i have managed to get 2, but never 3 or more like usual. Hopefully all these random bugs get fixed soon, because i love all the functionalities and features of the latest versions, but losing out on all those animations really makes me torn on which version i want to use for a full playthrough what verson of the framework are you using I am using 1.59c no problem with gangrape on pc by creature
Guest Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 Suggestion: Integrate SexLab Aroused and make it able to defeat enemies based on their arousal level, this way people can create/roleplay damageless characters, like in Corruption of Champions.
gator91 Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 After using this mod was thinking of a nice feature can you have an option to make a victim a ally?
Wolferlicu1 Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Suggestion: Integrate SexLab Aroused and make it able to defeat enemies based on their arousal level, this way people can create/roleplay damageless characters, like in Corruption of Champions. There is hidden code in the mod that forces Defeat to check the arousal of the attacker before sexual activity. So for example you can decrease the chance of rape in the settings (which usually leads to death) and then increase it in the game by manipulating the arousal of your foes, for example through being naked or casting succubus spells. But you need to recompile the relevant scripts, read my previous comment on this thread for more info. It works great for me. I just wish the dialogues would work a bit differently, currently you either get raped, consensual sex or killed. And the 10 seconds you get to run away is not enough. Here's some idea of dialogues: Firstly, if there's a way to actually check how much total damage the player did in the last fight (or kills) that should be checked first. I doubt that a bandit might want to act nice after you kill his mates or leave him at 1% health. We should also have a multiplier for the speech skill to be used in the dialogues. Not only will it make it simpler for new characters, but we can increase it manually in the settings if for example our Succubus level increases. If the following sound complicated, at least get the idea of allowing an actual choice of the outcome between rape, robbery and the amount of time the attackers ignore us. So, on "clean" surrender: dialogues with highest chance for successful outcomes. On bleedout or combat defeat: dialogues but with reduced success rate. On blackout: no dialogues, duh. --1.1 "Let me go" , highly based on speech and attacker arousal (the lower the better). Success leads to satisfied state for all attackers. Failure leads to robbery and possible rape (based on arousal), no option for consensual sex. Consider it a punishment. --1.2 "Take what you want", based on attacker arousal (the lower the better). Success leads only to robbery, failure leads to robbery and sex in which case: -----1.2.1 "Fine but please be gentle" speech check for consensual sex. Failure leads to rape. --1.3 "Seduce", speech and arousal check (the higher the better, should be really high). Success leads to consensual sex, no robbery. Failure is same as failure scenario from 1.1. --1.4 "Provoke", based on speech. Buffs attacker arousal and then rechecks it. Attacker will rape always, but depending on his arousal he might forget to rob you afterwards. After the events, it checks again the damage, kills or method of defeat, dialogues used: - have a chance to kill the player in revenge, based on the above. Robbery amount decreases it, arousal drop after sex also decreases it. Kill leads to DA events or the "left for dead" event. - after rape, have a chance to put devious devices on, in revenge. - Set up a variable time to ignore you after you escape. Basically, if you surrendered and had consensual sex (no robbery), they should be pacified for a looong time. If you actually engage them in dialogue now, relationship should increase with them and increase the pacified time, allowing you to stay for a few hours with them, for reasons.
korun2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 i'm using defeat for a few month now and i must say it's a must have, brilliant idea, so far i have no problem with it, thanks for this
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