SexLab Defeat

[Ashra XIII]

I also had the problem with Defeat not installing at all, even on a new game. What I did was make sure I had the latest version of Death Alternative (since Defeat interacts with that now, though I don't know if it's required), then uninstalled Hentai Pregnancy and Devious Captures (mod that adds Devious Devices after Defeat). Started a new game with Defeat disabled, and let all my other mods register and such. I then saved, exited, enabled Defeat (then ran BOSS/FNIS) and loaded the save. Voila, Defeat registered.

 

Still haven't tried re-enabling Devious Captures yet... I know Miss Leeches was going to update once Defeat did, so not sure if there could be any issues.

[nutluck]

Also, I would like some feedback about the Stay down option, when it is disabled, the player can flee between turns and if the next aggressor don't catch you after 10 seconds you succeeded to get away, I made that aggressor run to you and the player is slowed down and staggers, I don't even know if it's possible to flee in those conditions.

 

I tried it, granted only once but I was able to get up and flee between attackers and got away so it seemed to work just fine.

 

[nutluck]

Oo

 

i rape with my female char a male npc in combat and he fuck me, wtf

i missed something in the mcm menu?

never had that happen before

 

thanks

 

e: oh no, that alltime happen now with the new version..

for my companion it do not work when i do it over dialog (say that she rape a male npc), then she also get fucked..

 

hm, i add a papyrus

this log describe my female char rape a falkreath guard and get fucked from him

and also that the guard do not put his clothes back again on after rape

 

:'/

 

There is now a setting in defeat about female on male using cowgirl, it depends what you have that set to. One and she will use cowgirl when she is the aggressor and the other choice is strapon. Likely you just have it selected wrong.

[nutluck]

well i've got an issue where defeat just says that i failed to grapple the enemy no matter from where i do it and it just happens when i attack one of the three npc's on the throat of the world (the hunter that is reading the dragonborn stories, the girl that is sitting in front of one of that story monuments and one wanderer after the troll but he's from another mod)

the greybeards however are ok(not with the submit issue).

by the way at the same time when this problem occurs i get an problem with submit one i already had earlier on an completely other save and insall, hell it was on an differen pc

the thing is that only when you grapple an enemy mid combat!!! the submit dialogues aren't working but if i attack them with the sneak grapple everything's alright.

I suggest that it ist an papyrus issue since it just happens after some hours of playing on the same character.

 

I have found it is very hard to be the aggressor and have it trigger unless you are higher level and have a lot more health and near max stamina.

[nutluck]

What is DA? And also I'm having the same problem, can anyone re-upload v5.1 temporarily so I could see if that works for me?

 

Death Alternative another mod on Nexus that is popular as it has a variety of things that can happen to you instead of being killed. Mostly being taken prisoner.

 

Though honestly I think once Goubo gets all the bugs works out and starts on the fraction events Defeat will be better at even that stuff than DA.

[blindmankind]

 

Oo

 

i rape with my female char a male npc in combat and he fuck me, wtf

i missed something in the mcm menu?

never had that happen before

 

thanks

 

e: oh no, that alltime happen now with the new version..

for my companion it do not work when i do it over dialog (say that she rape a male npc), then she also get fucked..

 

hm, i add a papyrus

this log describe my female char rape a falkreath guard and get fucked from him

and also that the guard do not put his clothes back again on after rape

 

:'/

 

There is now a setting in defeat about female on male using cowgirl, it depends what you have that set to. One and she will use cowgirl when she is the aggressor and the other choice is strapon. Likely you just have it selected wrong.

 

 

the options are disabled and that means strap on, or not?

these options allready exists in previous version i guess

think i use the right ones

 

e: i tested with enabled and that was cowgirl

[nutluck]

 

 

There is now a setting in defeat about female on male using cowgirl, it depends what you have that set to. One and she will use cowgirl when she is the aggressor and the other choice is strapon. Likely you just have it selected wrong.

 

the options are disabled and that means strap on, or not?

these options allready exists in previous version i guess

think i use the right ones

 

Honestly i don't remember off the top of my head which way is which. There is also a setting for strapon use in sexlab which I believe needs to be turned on as well.

[azmodan22]

If the option for Cowgirl is disabled, the female aggresor should use a strap on even on males.

[nutluck]

After many random new games everything finally started to function, except for any animations at all - I have skse 1.07.70 or whatever and FNIS Behaviour what else am I doing wrong?

 

Do the animations work with other mods?

[blindmankind]

 

 

 

There is now a setting in defeat about female on male using cowgirl, it depends what you have that set to. One and she will use cowgirl when she is the aggressor and the other choice is strapon. Likely you just have it selected wrong.

 

the options are disabled and that means strap on, or not?

these options allready exists in previous version i guess

think i use the right ones

 

Honestly i don't remember off the top of my head which way is which. There is also a setting for strapon use in sexlab which I believe needs to be turned on as well.

 

 

yea, that option in sexlab is enabled for strap on

 

the thing is, it worked fine in previous version 5.1 :'/

[nutluck]

 

 

Honestly i don't remember off the top of my head which way is which. There is also a setting for strapon use in sexlab which I believe needs to be turned on as well.

 

yea, that option in sexlab is enabled for strap on

 

the thing is, it worked fine in previous version 5.1 :'/

 

Did you try switching the setting in Defeat? If not try that and maybe that will make it work. If that doesn't work then not sure. To be fair that is not something I tested.

[Forerunner414]

Got the MCM working on my end.

 

What I did: enable everything but Defeat with NMM.  After configing to my liking, saving and exiting to desktop, installing Defeat through NMM.

 

Reloaded save game, do a setstage, Defeat MCM pops up.

 

Click enabled...and Defeat:installed popped up.

 

Amateur conclusion:  With as much mods as I have, it's not all uncommon for something at the beginning to get missed by Papyrus when all the mods are screaming 'Hi!  I'm here, notice me!' with a new game.

 

When Papyrus has a chance to breathe, it can properly acknowledge Defeat.  Then again, I have a minimal idea of how Papyrus works so this could be gross oversimplification and anthropomorphizing.

 

In any event, yay, it works - for those with the same problem, get all your mods tweaked and ready, save, then activate defeat with whatever loader you use.  Reload the save game, if MCM doesnt show up do a "setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1" to refresh MCM listings.

[blindmankind]

 

 

 

Honestly i don't remember off the top of my head which way is which. There is also a setting for strapon use in sexlab which I believe needs to be turned on as well.

 

yea, that option in sexlab is enabled for strap on

 

the thing is, it worked fine in previous version 5.1 :'/

 

Did you try switching the setting in Defeat? If not try that and maybe that will make it work. If that doesn't work then not sure. To be fair that is not something I tested.

 

 

yea, allready tested enable/disable^^

[ipred]

 

 

 

 

well i've got an issue where defeat just says that i failed to grapple the enemy no matter from where i do it and it just happens when i attack one of the three npc's on the throat of the world (the hunter that is reading the dragonborn stories, the girl that is sitting in front of one of that story monuments and one wanderer after the troll but he's from another mod)

the greybeards however are ok(not with the submit issue).

by the way at the same time when this problem occurs i get an problem with submit one i already had earlier on an completely other save and insall, hell it was on an differen pc

the thing is that only when you grapple an enemy mid combat!!! the submit dialogues aren't working but if i attack them with the sneak grapple everything's alright.

I suggest that it ist an papyrus issue since it just happens after some hours of playing on the same character.

 

I have found it is very hard to be the aggressor and have it trigger unless you are higher level and have a lot more health and near max stamina.

 

 

 

 

 

well it has nothing to do with level or stuff since after i've installed 5.2.1 i've tried it again and the message stays the same and submit don't work

but after like one minute trying to grab that karita or how she is named it sometimes only SOMETIMES like every 3rd attempt works and then i talked to her and the submit or die dialogue popped up.

I really think its an papyrus issue but i don't get why papyrus is so overcrumbled since it was an completely new save and the only more or less script intensive mods i'm running are frostfall,dynamic things(script is running every 15secs),Immersive FPV(i'm not sure if it is scriptintensive) aaaaand autoPV.

 

Edit: with Defeat 5.2.1 i've also installed sexlab approach because i was thinking well papyrus is fucked; let's bukkake it.

[Toddi]

I also had the problem with Defeat not installing at all, even on a new game. What I did was make sure I had the latest version of Death Alternative (since Defeat interacts with that now, though I don't know if it's required), then uninstalled Hentai Pregnancy and Devious Captures (mod that adds Devious Devices after Defeat). Started a new game with Defeat disabled, and let all my other mods register and such. I then saved, exited, enabled Defeat (then ran BOSS/FNIS) and loaded the save. Voila, Defeat registered.

 

Still haven't tried re-enabling Devious Captures yet... I know Miss Leeches was going to update once Defeat did, so not sure if there could be any issues.

 

Same here, uninstalling Hentai Pregnacy fixed it.

But Devious Captures eps was disabled before and i never used Death Alternative.

Maybe an issue with Defeat and HP?

[nutluck]

 

 

Did you try switching the setting in Defeat? If not try that and maybe that will make it work. If that doesn't work then not sure. To be fair that is not something I tested.

 

 

yea, allready tested enable/disable^^

 

Hmm, ok if I get time later I will try it and see if it bugs for my game. That is about the only thing I did not test cause it always worked on previous versions.

[nutluck]

 

 

 

 

well i've got an issue where defeat just says that i failed to grapple the enemy no matter from where i do it and it just happens when i attack one of the three npc's on the throat of the world (the hunter that is reading the dragonborn stories, the girl that is sitting in front of one of that story monuments and one wanderer after the troll but he's from another mod)

the greybeards however are ok(not with the submit issue).

by the way at the same time when this problem occurs i get an problem with submit one i already had earlier on an completely other save and insall, hell it was on an differen pc

the thing is that only when you grapple an enemy mid combat!!! the submit dialogues aren't working but if i attack them with the sneak grapple everything's alright.

I suggest that it ist an papyrus issue since it just happens after some hours of playing on the same character.

 

I have found it is very hard to be the aggressor and have it trigger unless you are higher level and have a lot more health and near max stamina.

 

 

 

 

 

well it has nothing to do with level or stuff since after i've installed 5.2.1 i've tried it again and the message stays the same and submit don't work

but after like one minute trying to grab that karita or how she is named it sometimes only SOMETIMES like every 3rd attempt works and then i talked to her and the submit or die dialogue popped up.

I really think its an papyrus issue but i don't get why papyrus is so overcrumbled since it was an completely new save and the only more or less script intensive mods i'm running are frostfall,dynamic things(script is running every 15secs),Immersive FPV(i'm not sure if it is scriptintensive) aaaaand autoPV.

 

Edit: with Defeat 5.2.1 i've also installed sexlab approach because i was thinking well papyrus is fucked; let's bukkake it.

 

I don't think it is suppose to always work. It has never always worked for me, there has always been a chance. but I found if you are higher level than the NPC, have more health than them and most of your stamina the odds are much higher.

 

[ipred]

 

 

 

 

 

well i've got an issue where defeat just says that i failed to grapple the enemy no matter from where i do it and it just happens when i attack one of the three npc's on the throat of the world (the hunter that is reading the dragonborn stories, the girl that is sitting in front of one of that story monuments and one wanderer after the troll but he's from another mod)

the greybeards however are ok(not with the submit issue).

by the way at the same time when this problem occurs i get an problem with submit one i already had earlier on an completely other save and insall, hell it was on an differen pc

the thing is that only when you grapple an enemy mid combat!!! the submit dialogues aren't working but if i attack them with the sneak grapple everything's alright.

I suggest that it ist an papyrus issue since it just happens after some hours of playing on the same character.

 

I have found it is very hard to be the aggressor and have it trigger unless you are higher level and have a lot more health and near max stamina.

 

 

 

 

 

well it has nothing to do with level or stuff since after i've installed 5.2.1 i've tried it again and the message stays the same and submit don't work

but after like one minute trying to grab that karita or how she is named it sometimes only SOMETIMES like every 3rd attempt works and then i talked to her and the submit or die dialogue popped up.

I really think its an papyrus issue but i don't get why papyrus is so overcrumbled since it was an completely new save and the only more or less script intensive mods i'm running are frostfall,dynamic things(script is running every 15secs),Immersive FPV(i'm not sure if it is scriptintensive) aaaaand autoPV.

 

Edit: with Defeat 5.2.1 i've also installed sexlab approach because i was thinking well papyrus is fucked; let's bukkake it.

 

I don't think it is suppose to always work. It has never always worked for me, there has always been a chance. but I found if you are higher level than the NPC, have more health than them and most of your stamina the odds are much higher.

 

 

 

no no the difference is: if you fail to defeat the npc there comes a "Resisted:xx%"

But I often get an sound like an lesser power that is not charged yet and then an message: "you did not successfully grabbed the victim" or something like that

would like to know what goubo meant to say with this message

[nutluck]

Yeah that is what I mean, as far as I know it has always been that way. If you try to grapple them you often fail and get the "you did not successfully grabbed the victim"

 

For me how often it happened seemed to depend on the stuff I mentioned before. But it rarely worked on the first time. Most times it took at least 2-3 tries to get it to work at the best of times. As far as I know thats how it has always been, least for me.

[ipred]

well i never got that message before

when i pressed the button they either went down into bleeding out or both characters were staggered and i've got the popup Resisted:xx%

 

[shadow866]

Did anyone figure out if you can use threshold % in defeat if you are also using DA?

Or do you have to uninstall DA for threshold to work?

Threshold works if i remove DA but that means SD+ wont work.

Thanks

[Marcus01]

 

 

 

Death Alternative another mod on Nexus that is popular as it has a variety of things that can happen to you instead of being killed. Mostly being taken prisoner.

 

Though honestly I think once Goubo gets all the bugs works out and starts on the fraction events Defeat will be better at even that stuff than DA.

 

 

The bonus with DA is getting other mods that work with DA to work with Defeat as well. I like the option that Defeat only triggers when entering bleedout, that way Defeat will trigger then say SD+ after Defeat ends. I know it was possible to use both before but you still ended up having to set Defeat to a higher hp % than DA. On my last play through there were no faction events so I haven't looked at those yet. Hopefully compatibility will be possible.

[nutluck]

well i never got that message before

when i pressed the button they either went down into bleeding out or both characters were staggered and i've got the popup Resisted:xx%

 

Huh guess you either was getting lucky before or I was getting unlucky before. Just saying I have always seen that message even back in the previous version of defeat the v4 series.

[nutluck]

Did anyone figure out if you can use threshold % in defeat if you are also using DA?

Or do you have to uninstall DA for threshold to work?

Threshold works if i remove DA but that means SD+ wont work.

Thanks

 

I believe if you are using DA then threshold doesn't work as DA takes over.

[nutluck]

 

The bonus with DA is getting other mods that work with DA to work with Defeat as well. I like the option that Defeat only triggers when entering bleedout, that way Defeat will trigger then say SD+ after Defeat ends. I know it was possible to use both before but you still ended up having to set Defeat to a higher hp % than DA. On my last play through there were no faction events so I haven't looked at those yet. Hopefully compatibility will be possible.

 

Oh I understand, I am just saying if Goubo does what he has talked about. I am not sure any thing else will be needed other than SD+ for those that want it is all.

 

But I think Defeat is some ways away from that still.