SexLab Defeat

[germanicus]

Everyone who's "stuck sitting" after sex": what you described sounds totally like Defeat's normal behavious. When that happens do you see a fat empty bar above your health bar? You're supposed to alternately press your strafe keys (default A and D) until it fills up. Once it's full your character should stand up

 

Well, yes, I see fat ampty bar. I didn't know that I should keep the keys pressed until they fill the bar. I just pressed them. I'm gonna try this right away.Tjhanks.

[chrisskyrim2013]

Everyone who's "stuck sitting" after sex": what you described sounds totally like Defeat's normal behavious. When that happens do you see a fat empty bar above your health bar? You're supposed to alternately press your strafe keys (default A and D) until it fills up. Once it's full your character should stand up

 

If you were referring to my post, the problem is it gets stuck right after undressing when the animation is supposed to start playing (which currently i "fix" by pressing 0 and then cancel so it continues the script).

 

Hope someone can help figure out what's wrong

 

These seem to be the lines where the problem happens (i think, no idea really) :

 

 

 

 

[04/30/2014 - 10:24:03AM] Defeat: Player victim - Aggressor [Actor < (0009B0DD)>] is here -> PreDown Action

[04/30/2014 - 10:24:11AM] [MQ102ChatterTrigger < (00109C2F)>] triggered by [Actor < (0002BF9E)>]

[04/30/2014 - 10:24:18AM] Error: Failed to setup moving reference because it has no parent cell or no 3D

stack:

 

[04/30/2014 - 10:24:18AM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - Thread[0]: Entering Making State

[04/30/2014 - 10:24:19AM] -- SexLab -- [sslActorAlias <alias ActorAlias004 on quest SexLabThread00 (07061EEF)>]: Slotted 'Aleria'

[04/30/2014 - 10:24:19AM] -- SexLab -- [sslActorAlias <alias ActorAlias003 on quest SexLabThread00 (07061EEF)>]: Slotted 'wolf'

[04/30/2014 - 10:24:19AM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Found Animations(3): (Wolf) Doggystyle, (Wolf) Dominate, (Wolf) Missionary,

[04/30/2014 - 10:24:20AM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - Adjustment Profile: WolfDoggystyle.Adjust.NordRaceF.WolfRacec

[04/30/2014 - 10:24:23AM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - Event Hook: AnimationStart

[04/30/2014 - 10:24:24AM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - Event Hook: StageStart

[04/30/2014 - 10:24:24AM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - Advancing: Starting Stage: 1

 

 

 

 

 

Here's another log that's way smaller with only 1 game load :

Papyrus.0.log.7z

[jihadoftomorrow]

I'm using the threshold system but even if I set the hp to 100% my grapple attempt still fail. Am I bugged or am I just missing something from the system?

[Caturday]

Everyone who's "stuck sitting" after sex": what you described sounds totally like Defeat's normal behavious. When that happens do you see a fat empty bar above your health bar? You're supposed to alternately press your strafe keys (default A and D) until it fills up. Once it's full your character should stand up

 

Theres no bar, therefore not defeats normal behavior.

[eric_starbuck]

Finally I managed to try this mod yesterday.

 

I had to do quite a maintainance of all the skyrim mods since they have all been updated lately.

 

So I preferred to start with a fresh new save and character.

 

At first i notice a strange behaviour: i started with Live another life and chose to be an outlaw, so i am surrounded with bandits at the start. I punched one of them and let him beat my PG, defeat kicked in appropriately, then after rape, (and robbery) i tried to attack another bandit but he never goes aggro, none of them does, they just die without fighting (not even the red dots on the radar.)

 

Then I chose to start again with a stormcloack character, i looked for some bandits and this time they were aggro as usual, i had to try several times to get knocked down since there was a mage among them and his magic was quite powerfull i think, so i continued to die instead of being defeated. finally i managed to get defeated and see the new turn behaviour with the lying animation. then the PG blacked out and awake some distance away. 

 

The strange thing is that she still had the armor and sword, but probably it was me forgetting to equip a weapon. so i went looking for other evil creatures, and i found a sabretooth, after rape the PG was sitting, i pushed the strafe buttons and she got up. The shield and sword were on the ground but they are not activable by the action button, is this normal? I only could run away leaving them on the ground. is there a chance/option to be able to collect them immediately afterward rape? what do I have to do? go away and then come back with the enemy turned aggressive?

 

I also have to revise the strip options since it is weird that after rape the PG is sitting with her helmet and boots on. she should be naked as during the rape. I think this is a sexlab option to check.

[eric_starbuck]

 

Everyone who's "stuck sitting" after sex": what you described sounds totally like Defeat's normal behavious. When that happens do you see a fat empty bar above your health bar? You're supposed to alternately press your strafe keys (default A and D) until it fills up. Once it's full your character should stand up

 

Theres no bar, therefore not defeats normal behavior.

 

 

I noticed that the bars "appears" only after you try to push the right and left buttons. but I think you tried that. I hope you can solve this and get the mod working.

[germanicus]

OK, here what was happened. Three bandits attacked me. After they raped me I got the bar. Moved cursors left-rigt until the bar got filled. But then the bandits start to do idle dance animations. I can't do anything until I input epc in console. They continued to dance and only I could is to kill them

[Princessity]

OK, here what was happened. Three bandits attacked me. After they raped me I got the bar. Moved cursors left-rigt until the bar got filled. But then the bandits start to do idle dance animations. I can't do anything until I input epc in console. They continued to dance and only I could is to kill them

It's supposed to happen ^^ They stand around and dance to give you time to get away. Once youve moved far enough away from them they will be hostile again and your controls will go back to normal.

 

 

 

Goubo do you think you could add some tutorial messages like in Devious Devices or Frostfall that appear the first time something happens and explain how things work? ^^ I think it would be helpful

[germanicus]

I see Ms Leeches. Thank you very much. I was afraid that I have a bug in the game. You just saved my nerves. Thanks again.

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

 

 

Not sure what the deal is, but after installing the update, then later uninstalling the mod and reinstalling the most current version from scratch the mod has stopped working all together. even downgrading doesn't seem to do anything. Though I haven't tried reinstalling the first release from a clean save, but I don't think that would matter.

 

Anyway creature and human or mer attackers just continue attacking until my character i killed, no matter where I have the health and exhaustion percentages set.

 

UPDATE: Yeah, now not even the old version works; even from a clean save.

 

Got it working again. Save Game Script cleaner did the trick.

 

 

I have the same problem only the save game script cleaner doesnt work. Ill have to try again by deleting all the files and scripts associated with it and trying to old version again but since trying the new one it just doesnt work at all and I never go down.

 

 

Did you try uninstalling the mod, making a clean save with it uninstalled, cleaning the new Save Game file without Defeat installed in it with the Save Game Script Cleaner, then reinstalling the mod? That's what I did and it worked.

 

It might be another mod you have installed that could be interfering with the newest version of Defeat too, but I doubt that.

[shinji72]

 

 

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Theres no bar, therefore not defeats normal behavior.

 

 

Take care of ImmersiveHUD.

Some configuration of ImmersiveHUD will HIDE and prevent the DEFEAT Bar from appearing.

[nutluck]

I actually ended up launching TES5EDIT to check on the bathhouse and all its NPCs are part of the currentfollowerfaction at rank 255, but illia and Lydia and countless others are also part of that of it at the same rank as per the skyrim.esm records. There's definitely something going on here, but again, turning off companion collateral takes care of it, so for anybody getting stuck, maybe check if you have the same problem I did. I'll work on getting a papyrus log up tomorrow.

 

Well mostly I am asking you to put up the log to help Goubo out, since it sounds like that is a bug. All us users can do to help the mod author out with debugging we should do. It is a lot of time and effort to make mods. So any help we can give is a big plus.

 

So when you get time to try it again and get it to mess up, if you could post up the log it might help Goubo out a lot. Thanks in advance.

[nutluck]

Everyone who's "stuck sitting" after sex": what you described sounds totally like Defeat's normal behavious. When that happens do you see a fat empty bar above your health bar? You're supposed to alternately press your strafe keys (default A and D) until it fills up. Once it's full your character should stand up

 

See this I know is a bug cause my bar doesn't always show up either. Either during the resist or the aftermath. I mentioned to Goubo in a earlier post that the bar showing up seems a bit buggy. Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't.

[nutluck]

 

Everyone who's "stuck sitting" after sex": what you described sounds totally like Defeat's normal behavious. When that happens do you see a fat empty bar above your health bar? You're supposed to alternately press your strafe keys (default A and D) until it fills up. Once it's full your character should stand up

 

Theres no bar, therefore not defeats normal behavior.

 

 

Yeah the bar seems to be buggy, sometimes it shows up for me and sometimes it doesn't. It is suppose to show up though.

[nutluck]

 

 

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Theres no bar, therefore not defeats normal behavior.

 

Take care of ImmersiveHUD.

Some configuration of ImmersiveHUD will HIDE and prevent the DEFEAT Bar from appearing.

 

Yep I tested this and once I put Ihud on all the time I stopped having issues with the bar sometimes showing up and sometimes not.

 

That's ok Gopher is doing a new version of iHud that will change that so each mod can control each widget of their own. So those of us using iHud only have to wait for the next update and that seems like it will be fixed.

 

On a side note I tested the 3some animations and I tried it 5 times and each time the exact same animation would appear. Anyone else ran into that with 3somes?

[Goubo]

Wow lot of messages, I did read all of them and I takes notes, so don't worry if I forget to awnser directly to you.

 

 

 

OK, here what was happened. Three bandits attacked me. After they raped me I got the bar. Moved cursors left-rigt until the bar got filled. But then the bandits start to do idle dance animations. I can't do anything until I input epc in console. They continued to dance and only I could is to kill them

It's supposed to happen ^^ They stand around and dance to give you time to get away. Once youve moved far enough away from them they will be hostile again and your controls will go back to normal.



Goubo do you think you could add some tutorial messages like in Devious Devices or Frostfall that appear the first time something happens and explain how things work? ^^ I think it would be helpful

 

 

Oh yeah I wanted to add this then I forgot, good idea.

 

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Thanks, interresting indeed, easily fix with putting a distance check, for the companion that go home that's wierd though, my calm spell do set them not being a player teammate during the scene (Only way I found to make the aggressors ignore them when they supposed to) but they normally stay in the team.

 

 

 

 

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 Creatures stealing the stuff is clearly not intended, it's just a lack of testing about creatures, will be fixed asap, as for the robbing, apparently there is some problems with it so I'm gonna improve it.

 

Ignoring favorites could be done I guess, there must be a check for this.

 

 

 

and cannot be traded with or dismissed. Also they no longer speak at all. I can get them to fight again after I fast travel, but everything else stays. My papyrus says nothing out of the ordinary and SKSE documented some errors, but thats from SM essential having icon errors with SKyui.

Edit: Upon exiting to desktop and reloading game, the followers talk and can be traded again.

 

i got this problem also

 

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i write some things that i saw with 5.1

 

- when a npc sleep and i say to my companion to rape the npc, nothing happens, also on the option to rape with my pc the npc

 

- i can not grab jarls? (pc or npc does not work)

 

- same bug like in the old 4.21 version, after rape the pc or npc do not put the weapons away (they keep it in hands but it is like no weapon equipped) i play dual weapons - then i must put weapons away and reequip :/

 

- rob on sleep, i miss the option to rob the armor and the inventory option

 

- my companion does not rape a npc out of battle, alltime run to them and then nothing (i activated my companion and marked the target)

 

and the strip option, i dno - i must check that a bit more - i got allover in mcm unequip but after sex they still naked

 

me thanks

 

Not so much have changed about player as aggressor so bug that was present in previuous version are probably still here and is then subject to improvements.

 

Know that a NPC doing an animation can't be assaulted (Inn keeper on his counter for example)

[Caturday]

 

 

 

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Theres no bar, therefore not defeats normal behavior.

 

 

Take care of ImmersiveHUD.

Some configuration of ImmersiveHUD will HIDE and prevent the DEFEAT Bar from appearing.

 

 

I do not have ImmersiveHud installed and the bar appears at other times, the example I showed with the Chaurus Reaper didnt have any bars.

[germanicus]

 

OK, here what was happened. Three bandits attacked me. After they raped me I got the bar. Moved cursors left-rigt until the bar got filled. But then the bandits start to do idle dance animations. I can't do anything until I input epc in console. They continued to dance and only I could is to kill them

It's supposed to happen ^^ They stand around and dance to give you time to get away. Once youve moved far enough away from them they will be hostile again and your controls will go back to normal.

 

 

 

Goubo do you think you could add some tutorial messages like in Devious Devices or Frostfall that appear the first time something happens and explain how things work? ^^ I think it would be helpful

 

 

Sorry. me again. All is fine with all you said except one small detail. Without bringing up the console and "EPC" command, my female PC can't move at all regrdles the time passed and bandits won't stop dancing. I walked actually sneaked through whole cave (2 Skyrim hours) and  even reduced the time of my PC's length of weakness from 120 sec. to 60. No, help. Crazy bastards are dancing forever. they don't return to their natural state- hostility.

[jihadoftomorrow]

Is it possible to change the animation done for raping/necrophilia from cowgirl to something else?

[ODell22d]

I know there has been a whole bunch of posts that talk about the hideout and I've looked at as many of them as I can and this may sound stupid but I have no idea how to get the hideout so I can use it... Under the description of the mod it mentions the features but nothing of the hideout or how it works, where to find it.

 

I did see a section in my MCM that says place hideout but when I do this nothing happens... Is there something I'm missing?

 

Please help if you can and thanks...

[nutluck]

Is it possible to change the animation done for raping/necrophilia from cowgirl to something else?

 

That would require a change to sexlab, all defeat does is call from the list that sexlab provides and currently cowgirl is the only female on male with aggressive female animation tagged other than the female using a strapon.

[nutluck]

I know there has been a whole bunch of posts that talk about the hideout and I've looked at as many of them as I can and this may sound stupid but I have no idea how to get the hideout so I can use it... Under the description of the mod it mentions the features but nothing of the hideout or how it works, where to find it.

 

I did see a section in my MCM that says place hideout but when I do this nothing happens... Is there something I'm missing?

 

Please help if you can and thanks...

 

The hideout was removed a number of patches ago. It is going to be made as a addon mod that will plug into Defeat. Right now Goubo is working on a major rewrite of Defeat to get it how he wants. After that he will be at some point go back and work on the hideout mod.

 

The part in the MCM menu is just a bit left behind when it was removed. Likely Goubo left it there so when he added the plugin mod it has a place to plugin at.

[nutluck]

 

 

 

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Theres no bar, therefore not defeats normal behavior.

 

Take care of ImmersiveHUD.

Some configuration of ImmersiveHUD will HIDE and prevent the DEFEAT Bar from appearing.

 

I do not have ImmersiveHud installed and the bar appears at other times, the example I showed with the Chaurus Reaper didnt have any bars.

 

Odd that, I was having the same issue as you. But for me it turned out the be the iHud mod causing it. Since I changed the settings on iHud the bar has always shown up for me. Granted I only tested it like 5 times so I might have just gotten lucky.

[jihadoftomorrow]

 

Is it possible to change the animation done for raping/necrophilia from cowgirl to something else?

 

That would require a change to sexlab, all defeat does is call from the list that sexlab provides and currently cowgirl is the only female on male with aggressive female animation tagged other than the female using a strapon.

 

Do you mean a change to Sexlab's MCM config? Because I turned off all animations except the animation I wanted and it still goes cowgirl.

[ticalosul]

Pc does not get  knocked down I can grab npc but the pc just wont get knocked down they continue to hit meuntil I die... Heath Threshold is set to 30%