SexLab Defeat

[Aliris]

Tested a little more.  I don't think it's necessarily the faction (first few successes were with bandits, later, bandits (even the ones I'd used before) didn't work), as I've tried with both 0 and 100%, faction clicked on or off.  Tried turning the other events up to 100 too.  Tried on Bandits, Vampires, Thalmor.

 

Additionally, it's not just that the end isn't firing - one round of sex occurs, then I stand up, and combat resumes five seconds later.  No one waiting their turn, etc.

[TezCraig]

Loving this mod! When using the keyboard everything works just fine. Thank you, you just don't disappoint. Very impressive.

 

Just couple of things, as already stated by others, its a little odd to be spoken to by a bear and have it rob me. It's also strange when the Inn after rape effect kicks in and I find myself at the other side of the map. Surely the nearest inn would be more appropriate. I actually once found myself dumped under water in Morthal after being raped in Bleak Falls Barrow by a drauger. Ho hum.

 

Right, back to Skyrim!

 

[nutluck]

Tested a little more.  I don't think it's necessarily the faction (first few successes were with bandits, later, bandits (even the ones I'd used before) didn't work), as I've tried with both 0 and 100%, faction clicked on or off.  Tried turning the other events up to 100 too.  Tried on Bandits, Vampires, Thalmor.

 

Additionally, it's not just that the end isn't firing - one round of sex occurs, then I stand up, and combat resumes five seconds later.  No one waiting their turn, etc.

 

Hmm then you might want to provide a papyrus log of when it happens so Goubo can take a look and hopefully track down any bugs.

[JunnJ]

Hey, just wanna say very well done with the mod. I was also pleased to see that you are going to attempt to get some controller support as that's my main means of playing Skyrim for the time being. It can be a tad annoying to have to pause, pull out my controller, mash the buttons and then plug it back in. I wish you luck in this endevour.

[Dunkstear]

If i try to Rape somebody the text shows up like : No... or why ?. but my char just stay's behind them an no Animations is showing up

i can knock down them and rape them but no Animations Shows nothing and after 2 Sek i can move again pls help me 

[DarkRavage]

Can you update strip option for necro?

[Mazhen]

would be nice to be able to turn off robbing on creatures, other than that iv had no issues with the beta..

[nutluck]

is it possible to get an option to turn off the ability for creatures to rob you?

 

It's a bug and Goubo has said he will be looking into it and fixing it eventually.

[Goubo]

My todo list begins to get big already

 

And right after I post that, suddenly it works (on wolves this time), waking up in an Inn.  Is the problem perhaps the factional event?

 

Speaking of which, the nearest Inn seems a little weird.

 

Robber's Gorge - I wind up in Dragon Bridge.  Makes sense.

 

Just east of Broken Fang Cave/west of Sleeping Tree Camp - I wind up in... Ivarstead?  Err.... okay?

 

Outside Ustengrav - I wind up in... Solstheim, at the Retching Netch.  WTF?

 

 

Might just be easier to dump the player in the main Inn for the particular Hold (as I would imagine there's something in the API to allow that, at least that's more reliable).

This is WIP, radiant quest is a powerful tool but when it comes to check distances especially if you are in an interior it's a nightmare, believe me I tried a lot of things. So for now an Inn in simply chosen randomly. But maybe I'm missing something obvious, there is very few documentation for this.

 

I tried uninstalling Defeat to to make a clean save and see if the fixes things but I ran acroos another problem.

The way I make clean saves is uninstalling the mod, load, and wait untill the menu of that mod is removed from the MCM. Defeat menu however is never removed. To my experience that is a very good sign of something is broken. I also had the "$" sign infron of many notifications and menu option in defeat. Dont know if that info is any help

What $ lines in particular?

 

I believe DA was brought up before and Goubo said he wanted to do his own thing if memory serves.

I can't compile scripts when I try to use DA's functions, I guess it would be entierly possible for me to trigger DA events if I could compile, seems that there is a problem with interesting NPCs scripts, which I don't have, I'll try again downloading this file.

[nutluck]

Hey Goubo, would it be possible for Defeat to only select animations that are checked in the aggressive animations list of Sexlab?

 

I ask because certain animations just don't fit right in with Defeat IMHO. If it only took those from the aggressive animations list then people could customize that list to use any of the animations they want and uncheck the ones they don't want.

 

I just think IF this is possible that would allow for a lot of user customization and help make the mod better as a whole for everyone.

 

Of course it might not be possible or might not be easy but thought I would bring it up.

[shinji72]

 

 

 

So, been doing some testing of "Defeat" and "Death Alternative - Your Money or Your Life" combo, seems lots of things happening all at once. Of which, they most always break apart all at once. 

 

Have you considered just adding full compatibility DA-YMoYL, similar to how Prison Overhaul has built-in compatibility to da ymoyl? DA is a very stable, fully developed alternate-death mod. The maturity, stability, full-features may save you a lot of trouble with post-events. SL_Submit should just do the same... as the alternate death routine is not working so well there. 

 

Anyway, been trying to get both working, "Defeat" and "Death Alternative - Your Money or Your Life" with many different settings and results are 'not great'. 

 

One possibility or suggestion, minimum health.jpg, have this extend well below zero health, (below zero health defeat stops working) as once below zero health the hostiles just kill you, always triggering da ymoyl, with no defeat event. Any papyrus lag simply means defeat usually never triggers as you are usually in DA territory by the time your scripts activate.. . Or, just have 'any hit' taken below the health 'threshold' of zero health trigger defeat event without the 'resist move' routine; then if pc does not manage an escape from da ymoyl and defeat abuse, they black out.  

 

Thanks for all the hard work, definitely a must-have-mod you've created. 

 

edit, another idea: add a separate Defeat Post-Assault Quest Plugin for DA-YMoYL, for those interested in alternate-death, but with a SL flavor. 

 

 

I too i'm interest in the subject of SD+/DA combo working with defeat.

Why don't do the usual way.

Setting an higher defeat threshold. I got my chance of rape from 50% health to 15%. This way, hopefully, Sd+/Da and Defeat will trigger at different moments

[shinji72]

Hi goubo. It's a bit strange having the rapers not to reach. I've tested again with the gargoyle. I'm I supposed to escape the dungeon and go back i'm to have him reagro again?

Would be better to have the aggressor reagro after a short while? And became hostile again if I strike them? actually now they let themselves be killed without reaction

[Jikar]

Hi... I'm new here so I'll probably say stupid things, so please have some tolerance if I say bullshit... Also, my native language isn't english, so sorry for grammar mistakes.

 

1. Really nice work with this mod, it's working fine to me and I'm enjoying it very much

 

2. I don't know why... but wolves are unable to knock down PC/NPC... This mod works perfect with every creature... but wolves. (If I use match maker the animation works)

(I tried looking for the answer, but after 2 hours searching in the forums I decided to write here. I remember I saw someone saying that Ashal made only the wolf or the dog animation work, is that the problem? If it is, how do I fix it?)

 

3. Thanks for anyone who reply, and again... I'm new to this, and I'm probably saying bullshit.

 

Edit: I created a New Save, and this time wolves were capable of knocking me down.

It seems that my games recognizes wolves as guards, because if I check the "Morality" in player as victim, wolves can't rape me...

So if it's happening to you, try doing the same I did

Just unched the morality on Player as Victim

[nutluck]

Hi... I'm new here so I'll probably say stupid things, so please have some tolerance if I say bullshit... Also, my native language isn't english, so sorry for grammar mistakes.

 

1. Really nice work with this mod, it's working fine to me and I'm enjoying it very much

 

2. I don't know why... but wolves are unable to knock down PC/NPC... This mod works perfect with every creature... but wolves. (If I use match maker the animation works)

(I tried looking for the answer, but after 2 hours searching in the forums I decided to write here. I remember I saw someone saying that Ashal made only the wolf or the dog animation work, is that the problem? If it is, how do I fix it?)

 

3. Thanks for anyone who reply, and again... I'm new to this, and I'm probably saying bullshit.

 

Wolves work just fine for me. So not sure why wolves won't work for you. Are you using another mod that changes the wolves? That could be the issue if you have another mod that changes the wolves it could cause them not to work or not be recognized as wolves by sexlab.

[nutluck]

Hi goubo. It's a bit strange having the rapers not to reach. I've tested again with the gargoyle. I'm I supposed to escape the dungeon and go back i'm to have him reagro again?

Would be better to have the aggressor reagro after a short while? And became hostile again if I strike them? actually now they let themselves be killed without reaction

 

Yeah I agree perhaps doing what Submit does after you get free of the ropes binding you could be done with Defeat. Now I don't know exactly how Dkatryl does it but basically you have a small window like 60 seconds after you get free to escape before the agro kicks back in and the NPC's will attack you again.

 

Doing the same for Defeat I think would be idle, I believe. Put the enemies back into sandbox mod but with a calm effect. Once a event is trigger or you get up from the sitting position it starts a count down. You have 60 seconds till the calm effect wears off and they attack again.

 

I think this would be a better way to handle it for a few reasons. To avoid some of the bugs currently happening and it adds more options for post defeat events. Such as kept as a slave by the bandits etc.

[nutluck]

 

I too i'm interest in the subject of SD+/DA combo working with defeat.

Why don't do the usual way.

Setting an higher defeat threshold. I got my chance of rape from 50% health to 15%. This way, hopefully, Sd+/Da and Defeat will trigger at different moments

I do like the bleedout bar on DA, it is a nice way to handle almost getting killed, giving some time after going down to bleedout. While still making sure the PC is unlikely to die.

[MK66]

Hi Goubo.

First, thank you, I use previous versions of your mod, and all was fine.

But I recently updated my Skyrim, so SKSE, SkyUI, FNIS, SexLab, and your mod. I made a clean save before.

And, I don't know why, but FNIS animations work, but all creatures agressors can't knock down the PC, fight will just continues.

[nutluck]

Hi Goubo.

First, thank you, I use previous versions of your mod, and all was fine.

But I recently updated my Skyrim, so SKSE, SkyUI, FNIS, SexLab, and your mod. I made a clean save before.

And, I don't know why, but FNIS animations work, but all creatures agressors can't knock down the PC, fight will just continues.

 

Creature support is turned off by default you have to turn it on in sexlab.

[Jikar]

 

Hi... I'm new here so I'll probably say stupid things, so please have some tolerance if I say bullshit... Also, my native language isn't english, so sorry for grammar mistakes.

 

1. Really nice work with this mod, it's working fine to me and I'm enjoying it very much

 

2. I don't know why... but wolves are unable to knock down PC/NPC... This mod works perfect with every creature... but wolves. (If I use match maker the animation works)

(I tried looking for the answer, but after 2 hours searching in the forums I decided to write here. I remember I saw someone saying that Ashal made only the wolf or the dog animation work, is that the problem? If it is, how do I fix it?)

 

3. Thanks for anyone who reply, and again... I'm new to this, and I'm probably saying bullshit.

 

Wolves work just fine for me. So not sure why wolves won't work for you. Are you using another mod that changes the wolves? That could be the issue if you have another mod that changes the wolves it could cause them not to work or not be recognized as wolves by sexlab.

 

 

Thanks for your answer, I think you're kinda right, because the wolves are being recognized as guards... I guess... : if I check Morality, wolves can't rape me, so everything I had to do is to uncheck morality and boom! Wolf Rape. (Sorry for bad english)

[nutluck]

 

 

Hi... I'm new here so I'll probably say stupid things, so please have some tolerance if I say bullshit... Also, my native language isn't english, so sorry for grammar mistakes.

 

1. Really nice work with this mod, it's working fine to me and I'm enjoying it very much

 

2. I don't know why... but wolves are unable to knock down PC/NPC... This mod works perfect with every creature... but wolves. (If I use match maker the animation works)

(I tried looking for the answer, but after 2 hours searching in the forums I decided to write here. I remember I saw someone saying that Ashal made only the wolf or the dog animation work, is that the problem? If it is, how do I fix it?)

 

3. Thanks for anyone who reply, and again... I'm new to this, and I'm probably saying bullshit.

 

Wolves work just fine for me. So not sure why wolves won't work for you. Are you using another mod that changes the wolves? That could be the issue if you have another mod that changes the wolves it could cause them not to work or not be recognized as wolves by sexlab.

 

 

Thanks for your answer, I think you're kinda right, because the wolves are being recognized as guards... I guess... : if I check Morality, wolves can't rape me, so everything I had to do is to uncheck morality and boom! Wolf Rape. (Sorry for bad english)

 

 

OH yes, that bug. Yeah Dkatryl ran into that on Submit too, some of the animals register for some odd reason as highly moral. Dkatryl found some way around that with Submit but I forget exactly what he did now, but yes that is a Skyrim issue sadly.

 

Also you're welcome.

[MK66]

 

Hi Goubo.

First, thank you, I use previous versions of your mod, and all was fine.

But I recently updated my Skyrim, so SKSE, SkyUI, FNIS, SexLab, and your mod. I made a clean save before.

And, I don't know why, but FNIS animations work, but all creatures agressors can't knock down the PC, fight will just continues.

 

Creature support is turned off by default you have to turn it on in sexlab.

 

 

I did it, and tried other thing: Corrected: The mod do nothing Jon Snow.

I don't know why, I think I will delete all files, one by one, re-save my game, and reinstall the mod.

[nutluck]

Copy your FNIS output and paste it here in a spoiler tag.

[MK66]

I will first finish to delete all files, then I will re-try.

[Aensland_src]

Srry for asking again but, well I really wanna know, SLD It's going to get Xbox360 controller support???, or theres something I'm doing ??? I checked out for hotkey options for the "<--   -->" movement arrow thing required to fill the bar to get up, so If I use my controller I just can't get up, even If I disconect te controller in the moment,If I do that not even the A , D, keys are recognised. D:!!!

[nutluck]

Srry for asking again but, well I really wanna know, SLD It's going to get Xbox360 controller support???, or theres something I'm doing ??? I checked out for hotkey options for the "<--   -->" movement arrow thing required to fill the bar to get up, so If I use my controller I just can't get up, even If I disconect te controller in the moment,If I do that not even the A , D, keys are recognised. D:!!!

 

I imagine once Goubo works out all the current bugs with this beta build, that if possible he will make it so you can set custom keys for that stuff. If so then it should work with a controller then. Just might be awhile before he has time to get to it.