SexLab Defeat

[grymsoul]

I have a problem. I've download all the required mods and they all seem to be working. . .except "Defeat" itself. I used FNIS to update but it never picks up the mod as one to activate. How do I fix this.

[Emberheart]

It seems that often during the animation, I suddenly get attacked and killed. Last time that amounted to being picked off the floor and my PC having her head cut off, only to get violated by the NPC who was finishing his animation. More than often enough they also get stuck in the laughing loop, until I disable and enable the NPC who knocked me down.

 

Yes I've done FNIS.

Yes I've created a clean save and applied sexlabdefeat fresh.

No I'm not running sexlab submit.

No I'm not running Sanguine's debauchery.

[4onen]

@Ganzlinger

Sorry, can't help you there. Theoretically Defeat disables the player's controls, which causes enemies nearby to stop attacking because your avatar is no longer considered the 'player character' even though the camera is still attached, and SL controls pick up just fine, Defeat is disabling the base Skyrim controls.

Theoretically this works, I guess not all the time though.

 

@grymsoul

This may seem counterintuitive, but SexLab and vanilla Skyrim have all the animations Defeat uses. Defeat includes no animations of its own, so it doesn't need to be recognized by FNIS. Only SexLab needs to be processed.

Unless you're having a different problem, in which case please elaborate.

 

@Ember Hart

Never seen the laughing loop bug, so can't help you there.

As I explained with Ganzlinger, Defeat disables the Skyrim controls so that enemies can no longer detect you. If another mod re-enables them, the enemies will locate you and resume the assault. Another mod could be triggering this, or you may have found some NPCs immune to that trick (though usually Defeat has other ways that I haven't yet figured out)

[Emberheart]

@Ganzlinger

Sorry, can't help you there. Theoretically Defeat disables the player's controls, which causes enemies nearby to stop attacking because your avatar is no longer considered the 'player character' even though the camera is still attached, and SL controls pick up just fine, Defeat is disabling the base Skyrim controls.

Theoretically this works, I guess not all the time though.

 

@grymsoul

This may seem counterintuitive, but SexLab and vanilla Skyrim have all the animations Defeat uses. Defeat includes no animations of its own, so it doesn't need to be recognized by FNIS. Only SexLab needs to be processed.

Unless you're having a different problem, in which case please elaborate.

 

@Ember Hart

Never seen the laughing loop bug, so can't help you there.

As I explained with Ganzlinger, Defeat disables the Skyrim controls so that enemies can no longer detect you. If another mod re-enables them, the enemies will locate you and resume the assault. Another mod could be triggering this, or you may have found some NPCs immune to that trick (though usually Defeat has other ways that I haven't yet figured out)

 

Thanks, I did not know that defeat made you undetectable. I'll see if I can rig something up that casts an invisible Kyne's Peace like effect when health hits under 10% for x minutes.

[4onen]

It tries to. Fails miserably, ofc. This is Skyrim though, nobody expected something that would work 100% of the time.

[Emberheart]

I'm thinking something like:

 

IF attackers faction = <i.e. bandit>

AND player.getav health < 10%

 

spell: player.addfac <i.e. bandit> x 5minutes

 

Then an entry and check for each faction.

[nutluck]

SexlabUtili use to work with Defeat, if you had it cast calm before and after sex. I have not tried it in awhile though since I have not been playing Skyrim only testing mods and currently have Defeat turned off so I could more easily test other mods.

[Emberheart]

I'll look into that. Or alternately, I'll make some bat files it runs with the console commands doing a player.addfac.

 

bat bandit

bat necro

 

etc.

 

ended by

bat donenow

[LightningReturned657]

Hi guys! I'm having some problems with this mod.

 

The aggressor options don't work for me. Whenever I successfully knock someone down, my only to options are revive and kill. I did get every option to appear just once but then I saw that the animations did not work either. The two characters just stand there naked. The facial expressions and the sound effects work but the actual animations don't work. I tried this several times with both male and female characters and tried tweaking every option in the MCM menu but it still never worked. Any help or info is greatly appreciated!

[Highborn]

@Ganzlinger

Sorry, can't help you there. Theoretically Defeat disables the player's controls, which causes enemies nearby to stop attacking because your avatar is no longer considered the 'player character' even though the camera is still attached, and SL controls pick up just fine, Defeat is disabling the base Skyrim controls.

Theoretically this works, I guess not all the time though.

 

 

Thanks for the reply, anyway!

[Emberheart]

Hi guys! I'm having some problems with this mod.

 

The aggressor options don't work for me. Whenever I successfully knock someone down, my only to options are revive and kill. I did get every option to appear just once but then I saw that the animations did not work either. The two characters just stand there naked. The facial expressions and the sound effects work but the actual animations don't work. I tried this several times with both male and female characters and tried tweaking every option in the MCM menu but it still never worked. Any help or info is greatly appreciated!

 

You must put away your weapons to get rob, rape, tie up, etc.

[blindmankind]

If you have your weapons sheathed when the animations start you will have full control of the camera but if you have them at the ready the game forces the camera into a single plane instead of allowing full rotation.

wow, ill check that now

 

me thanks

[Sarathis]

 

Oh yeah that bug is freaking annoying... it happens on NPCs that have default outfit and this fucking shitty outfit system bethesda put in this game is a source of a lot of problems... I don't know if I can fix this since the way it works but I'll see.

Gonna improve this tie up system though, for now those handcuffs are simply a global function to limit at 10 tied up NPC at the same time but sometimes it seems to not restore a "handcuff" when a NPC free himself.

And Clean up should regenerate the handcuff if there isn't something bugged.

Thank you, sir. I'll give it a shot. Appreciate all your hard work.

 

Following up on this, I'm sad to report that Clean Up didn't restore the handcuffs. If anything it's worse as I'm now down to only Four pairs. If anyone has any other suggestion on how to get them back I'd appreciate hearing them.

[Emberheart]

 

 

Oh yeah that bug is freaking annoying... it happens on NPCs that have default outfit and this fucking shitty outfit system bethesda put in this game is a source of a lot of problems... I don't know if I can fix this since the way it works but I'll see.

Gonna improve this tie up system though, for now those handcuffs are simply a global function to limit at 10 tied up NPC at the same time but sometimes it seems to not restore a "handcuff" when a NPC free himself.

And Clean up should regenerate the handcuff if there isn't something bugged.

Thank you, sir. I'll give it a shot. Appreciate all your hard work.

 

Following up on this, I'm sad to report that Clean Up didn't restore the handcuffs. If anything it's worse as I'm now down to only Four pairs. If anyone has any other suggestion on how to get them back I'd appreciate hearing them.

 

 

Trying in the console command: help cuff 3. I think that may give a result. Will give an update in a second.

 

[LightningReturned657]

 

Hi guys! I'm having some problems with this mod.

 

The aggressor options don't work for me. Whenever I successfully knock someone down, my only to options are revive and kill. I did get every option to appear just once but then I saw that the animations did not work either. The two characters just stand there naked. The facial expressions and the sound effects work but the actual animations don't work. I tried this several times with both male and female characters and tried tweaking every option in the MCM menu but it still never worked. Any help or info is greatly appreciated!

 

You must put away your weapons to get rob, rape, tie up, etc.

 

Thanks, now I can select all the options. The actual animations still aren't working though. Do you have an idea of what might be causing this?

[forerunner777]

when is this going to be updated... i can't seem to get rape animations to trigger now since everything else was updated

[nutluck]

when is this going to be updated... i can't seem to get rape animations to trigger now since everything else was updated

 

Soonish, when exactly no one knows. The next update looks like it is going to be very large and completely overhaul several aspects of the mod. I am hoping before the end of the month, but honestly when ever it comes out I would rather Goubo take his time and gives us the most polished version he can to start testing than rush it out with to many bugs.

[Goubo]

 

when is this going to be updated... i can't seem to get rape animations to trigger now since everything else was updated

 

Soonish, when exactly no one knows. The next update looks like it is going to be very large and completely overhaul several aspects of the mod. I am hoping before the end of the month, but honestly when ever it comes out I would rather Goubo take his time and gives us the most polished version he can to start testing than rush it out with to many bugs.

 

 

Yeah, I'm working on generic quests for several factions for post assault, it's harder than I thought with some aspects so it's taking more time.

I need to polish some of the Player as aggressor script too and then it will be good, I'll do another update later to overhaul the NPC vs NPC (don't know how yet) but what I did for now is to put a delay of 2 seconds when a NPC and the player is hit, there should be a lot less script stress and like this the chance on hit will be check every two seconds.

 

We slowly getting there.

[dje34]

 

 

when is this going to be updated... i can't seem to get rape animations to trigger now since everything else was updated

 

Soonish, when exactly no one knows. The next update looks like it is going to be very large and completely overhaul several aspects of the mod. I am hoping before the end of the month, but honestly when ever it comes out I would rather Goubo take his time and gives us the most polished version he can to start testing than rush it out with to many bugs.

 

 

Yeah, I'm working on generic quests for several factions for post assault, it's harder than I thought with some aspects so it's taking more time.

I need to polish some of the Player as aggressor script too and then it will be good, I'll do another update later to overhaul the NPC vs NPC (don't know how yet) but what I did for now is to put a delay of 2 seconds when a NPC and the player is hit, there should be a lot less script stress and like this the chance on hit will be check every two seconds.

 

We slowly getting there.

 

 

Petit à petit...

 

Little by little...

[EricCM]

Hey everyone I'm having 2 small issues that I couldn't find a fix for when I checked around this thread. One is the handcuff problem that others seem to be having, I don't know how to get more and running the cleaner didn't help. I lose them when I tie someone up then another NPC kills them. The second is when there is NPC on NPC defeat animation other NPC's will still attack and kill those running the animations, but this doesn't happen when my character gets downed. I saw others suggested that it could be due to another combat mod, perhaps immersive patrols. I really want to keep this mod however. Thanks in advance.

[Guest wellbredbitch]

Dear Goubo, please could you tell me wether the following is a message from your mod or not.   " it seems, that your stalker gives up " i think i had your mod installed before and i'm going to reinstall it to see if it stops the continuous spam text of that message.

[originalwankster]

Dear Goubo, please could you tell me wether the following is a message from your mod or not.   " it seems, that your stalker gives up " i think i had your mod installed before and i'm going to reinstall it to see if it stops the continuous spam text of that message.

Nah, that's from this Lover's Victim Dogs n' Horses Alpha version.

[Guest wellbredbitch]

thankyou thankyou!!  i'm so glad someone recognised it. it is driving me insane. i will post on LV dogs and horses now for advice. 

[valaria69]

I know that I am a newbie compared to most here but I do hope you are taking into consideration the new sexlab alpha coding... because the combo of the new FNIS and the new Sexlab do not work right with Defeat as it is now.... I put all the new stuff all on a complete new install of the game and the game refused to detect that I had defeat installed so I went back to the old FNIS and Sexlab and bam there is defeat... Sorry I love my defeat and would rather lose out on the new stuff that comes with the new FNIS as well as the new Sexlabs so until those 2 work with defeat I am sticking with the old because I will not play without defeat!!!!

[Lucky7]

 

 

when is this going to be updated... i can't seem to get rape animations to trigger now since everything else was updated

 

Soonish, when exactly no one knows. The next update looks like it is going to be very large and completely overhaul several aspects of the mod. I am hoping before the end of the month, but honestly when ever it comes out I would rather Goubo take his time and gives us the most polished version he can to start testing than rush it out with to many bugs.

 

 

Yeah, I'm working on generic quests for several factions for post assault, it's harder than I thought with some aspects so it's taking more time.

I need to polish some of the Player as aggressor script too and then it will be good, I'll do another update later to overhaul the NPC vs NPC (don't know how yet) but what I did for now is to put a delay of 2 seconds when a NPC and the player is hit, there should be a lot less script stress and like this the chance on hit will be check every two seconds.

 

We slowly getting there.

 

Have you also been working on the hideout? Because if so that's a big workload, Kudos then. 

 

Also, I don't know much about Papyrus, does it support inlining or other forms of optimization to make scripts run faster?