Hamger Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Been spending hours on this mod and still can't have sex after they summit to me. Is it because im using other sex mod like defeat? im pretty sure it disabled but im pretty sure that not it.
Kendo 2 Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 Been spending hours on this mod and still can't have sex after they summit to me. Is it because im using other sex mod like defeat? im pretty sure it disabled but im pretty sure that not it. It doesn't work for me either and I have the MCM settings done right. SexLab Approach no longer works either. The NPCs no longer ask for sex. That mod worked before I installed Submit...now...nothing.
Kendo 2 Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 UPDATE YOUR GODDAMNED MOD / ANSWER YOUR PMS / DO SOMETHING.
srayesmanll Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 UPDATE YOUR GODDAMNED MOD / ANSWER YOUR PMS / DO SOMETHING. Hmm, demanding mod user. Strange, didn't realize I'd logged onto Nexus... Been spending hours on this mod and still can't have sex after they summit to me. Is it because im using other sex mod like defeat? im pretty sure it disabled but im pretty sure that not it. Hamger: Are you saying that after doing the submit shout you cannot speak to them? After doing the submit shout for combat, you do have to speak to the victim and tell them to submit. Frankly I have never had an issue with this functionality with submit and I've been using this mod from the time dkatryl created it. If fact, the only functionality I've used in this mod (since I play male PCs primarily) are the PC as rapist (combat and sneak) and the seduction. So, I'm thinking you've got a mod conflict. I use several LL mods in conjunction with Submit and haven't run into like the one you're describing, although I don't use as many as some people do (again, primarily play male PCs so I don't have the mods that are primarily for female PCs - about 90% of the mods). I haven't seen where you've attached any load orders/papyrus logs/etc that may help others help diagnose your problem (although you may have I and I've missed that post). Defeat doesn't conflict with Submit other than player submitting, and that's only when using both mods auto submit features. The other features are handled differently by each mod (unless you set the same 'action' key for both mods' features, like setting Submit's shout to 'G' key, same as Defeat's default key). There may by other mods that conflict - Kendo talks about sexlab approach seeming to have a conflict in his setup (although he never said that if he disabled Approach that the conflict went away) By the way Kendo, why would Submit's author have to fix the problem, couldn't the problem be with the Approach mod and that author would need to fix it?
Kendo 2 Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 By the way Kendo, why would Submit's author have to fix the problem, couldn't the problem be with the Approach mod and that author would need to fix it? Has nothing to do with Approach. Is the fact that when the animations are called for Submit content the game crashes with Sexlab 1.59c installed. Approach works fine, Devious Devices works fine, Spouses Enhanced works fine, in fact all of the mods I use work as intended with 1.59c, except this one. Funny that those mods have all been updated OR are scripted in a way that calls on the framework base. The ONLY mod that is jacked is this one. It would be fine if I was the only person having an issue with 1.59c and this mod, but I'm not. And this is indeed like Nexus: A mod author that refuses to answer PMs; an upload no longer compatible with the framework it's based on; White Knights defending it even though they know it's broken; YEAH, that has the stink of Nexus all over it. WHAT. EVER. The mod is outdated and it's not compatible with Sexlab 1.59c.
Morferous Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 It's only a month since dkatryl was last online. We have seen mod recovering from older absence. Submit submission event itself works well with patch posted above. I don't know about any troubles related to sex with other mods, like Approach. I don't use it. At least 1 on 1 sex works properly with Submit. Of course, I would not mind dkatryl paying us a visit. Actually, I would not mind other Submit + DD version modders visiting their mods either.
srayesmanll Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 Kendo: I have never said anything about you being the only one having a problem with submit. For me, the seduction part of Submit works perfectly, and this is using Sexlab 1.59c. I do run into issues with PC submitting during the tie up phase (when I've actually used that functionality on the very few times I've played a female character) causing a crash. Same problem others have had. Because of this issue, I finally took the time to check out Defeat, and found I like it as much as Submit (once I got used to the control differences). Currently I use Defeat to initiate rape (PC on NPC) and Player submit, and use Submit's seduction functionality for non-aggressive sex (I like the way that Submit's seduction function can affect relationship ranking). I'm no "white knight" defending the mod saying it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. I have used it from near the beginning of it's inception and have provided help with issues, to both dk and to users. It definitely has issues (just like nearly every single fucking mod on this site), and I definitely agree that it needs to be updated. However, being demanding about it is not going to get the fixes in. I have no clue as to how long ago you sent any PM's to dk, but he hasn't been on line in over a 1 month, and he was missing for quite some time (I'm talking months, not days) before the last set updates he made to the mod (which I believe was when SL version 1.57 was released - not 100% on which version but pretty sure it was pre 1.58). Frankly we have no clue as to whether dk is still even modding or not. He may have decided to move on. So again, demanding fixes is not going to do any good. Frankly, I was more annoyed about the whiny, privileged, Nexus-user-like attitude coming from someone who has complained mightily and in great detail about Nexus and it's users. As Morferous mentioned above, there is a patch posted earlier which alleviates some issues (haven't tested it myself): Submit submission event itself works well with patch posted above And as I mentioned, Defeat handles the player rape (player instigated and player as victim) rather well and both mods can be used simultaneously. Yes there are problems, and a fix would be very welcome, but if you expect everyone to jump at your words and fix something just because you decide to shout about it, well you are going to be disappointed a lot.
Kendo 2 Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 So basically you're telling me that you use another mod's function to cover a function of this mod that doesn't work...the function I'm bitching about...that doesn't work....for a lot of people. Fucking priceless man. Not that it matters, but you jumped on me for pointing out something that's true. ANYWAY, this mod has joined the other framework screw-job mods that don't do what they say they do or make the game CDT. They're in the recycle bin. Once I get to this point: UPDATE YOUR GODDAMNED MOD / ANSWER YOUR PMS / DO SOMETHING. I've already washed my hands of it, like I have this conversation.
WaxenFigure Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 So basically you're telling me that you use another mod's function to cover a function of this mod that doesn't work...the function I'm bitching about...that doesn't work....for a lot of people. Fucking priceless man. Not that it matters, but you jumped on me for pointing out something that's true. ANYWAY, this mod has joined the other framework screw-job mods that don't do what they say they do or make the game CDT. They're in the recycle bin. Once I get to this point: UPDATE YOUR GODDAMNED MOD / ANSWER YOUR PMS / DO SOMETHING.I've already washed my hands of it, like I have this conversation. The bug with CTDs using the Submit mod IS NOT IN THE SUBMIT MOD. I'd explain it for you but your lousy attitude pissed me off so I'll just suggest that the answer lies somewhere on the forums here and let YOU hunt it down for yourself. Just remember that other people are now using this mod with its full functionality and Sexlab 1.59c, just because you seem incapable of finding out what they know isn't an excuse for bad behavior.
srayesmanll Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 I've already washed my hands of it, like I have this conversation. Good. Then we can let the readers of this thread go back to trying to help one another instead of listening to a whiner (you) and an old fart (me) . The bug with CTDs using the Submit mod IS NOT IN THE SUBMIT MOD. I'd explain it for you but your lousy attitude pissed me off so I'll just suggest that the answer lies somewhere on the forums here and let YOU hunt it down for yourself. Just remember that other people are now using this mod with its full functionality and Sexlab 1.59c, just because you seem incapable of finding out what they know isn't an excuse for bad behavior. Much better than I could have said it. Thank you. I tend to get long-winded and like to "poke the bear" a bit (not in a sexlab-y type way, mind you).
RUD3DUD3 Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 submit is working fine for me no ctds with sexlab 1.59c and other sexlab mods dialogue sex works as normal, submitting an NPC works as normal i can loot their inventory, have sex with them, kill them or can turn them in for bounty i dont use PC submit coz for that i have defeat and SD+. so whats exactly thats wrong in this mod i read some earlier posts didnt find those issues in my game
WaxenFigure Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 submit is working fine for me no ctds with sexlab 1.59c and other sexlab mods dialogue sex works as normal, submitting an NPC works as normal i can loot their inventory, have sex with them, kill them or can turn them in for bounty i dont use PC submit coz for that i have defeat and SD+. so whats exactly thats wrong in this mod i read some earlier posts didnt find those issues in my game There's a bug in the Papyrus Utilities bundled with Sexlab that causes it to crash in certain situations when a certain API call is made, there's a patch posted by a user that replaces that call with a slightly more complex bit of code that otherwise accomplishes the same task and avoids using the API call which causes the crash. The next version of the Papyrus Utilities will fix that problem but it hasn't been updated yet. The patch is posted within the last few pages here so it shouldn't be hard to find but I think the way you are using the mod right now is avoiding this particular problem.
RUD3DUD3 Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 well yes it certainly seems like that my game haven't crashed yet but i will download that patch just in case it starts crashing
3n3mykn1ght Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 After installing the patch (PC submit) the beginning animations for beating up work fine, however sex doesn't trigger and i'm bound, just like that. After escaping the binds I try to escape, and get caught again to make sure progressive bondage is working, I get bound in the same fashion as the first, no sex then CTD. Any Ideas?
DaPuppetMaster Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 Submit is working for me as intented with the patch provided some pages back. Except for submitting to creatures when purevision or realvision is installed. Then I get a wont accept your surrender message. Anyone having the same problem?
Morferous Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 After installing the patch (PC submit) the beginning animations for beating up work fine, however sex doesn't trigger and i'm bound, just like that. After escaping the binds I try to escape, and get caught again to make sure progressive bondage is working, I get bound in the same fashion as the first, no sex then CTD. Any Ideas? Progressive bondage? I think you meant to post in to another thread. Submit itself does not have progressive bondage feature. DD Progression version does. http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/867-submit-devious-devices-progression-mod/
LibertyPrime Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 After installing the patch (PC submit) the beginning animations for beating up work fine, however sex doesn't trigger and i'm bound, just like that. After escaping the binds I try to escape, and get caught again to make sure progressive bondage is working, I get bound in the same fashion as the first, no sex then CTD. Any Ideas? Progressive bondage? I think you meant to post in to another thread. Submit itself does not have progressive bondage feature. DD Progression version does. http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/867-submit-devious-devices-progression-mod/ Submit does feature bondage, doesn't it? When you submit to an enemy, he'll tie you up and leave you lying on the ground. I could be mistaking it for another mod.
PubliusNV Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 Yes, Submit does feature your PC getting tied up and you having to escape, but there's another variant on the mod that involves your PC getting equipped with various devices from Devious Devices Assets, with progressively more devices equipped each time your PC submits. Hence the name, Submit Devious Devices Progression.
rantanplan500 Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 Hi guys, this is a great mod, but i got some problem. When i use action key (try both on shout and grab option) on combat, they just kneeling down (the system said that the NPC summits), then lie down (just like dead), then stand up, walk away like nothing happened. The NPC dont provide any sumbit dialog option. But when i try sneak grab is work well. I have try sumbit patch for 159c, but mod still the same situation. Any Ideas?
uba_409 Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 HI guys, i have a really annoying problem here. I have submit + requiem and i can't manage to get them work togheter. If i have submit active, any time i die i get ctd. I've tried to load submit before or after requiem and nothing changes. Actually i think i have to fix some settings in the mcm menu since i haven't found anyone else having this problem on the internet, but i have no clue about what i should do :/.
srayesmanll Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 There are some "death-alternative"-like settings in Submit's MCM. Not sure of the preference names (and away from my game at the moment). Look in the player as victim section and turn it off ("Death-Proofing " I think it's called).
uba_409 Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 There are some "death-alternative"-like settings in Submit's MCM. Not sure of the preference names (and away from my game at the moment). Look in the player as victim section and turn it off ("Death-Proofing " I think it's called). i'll give it a try right now, but i don't think that's the problem, because even when i surrender a fight i get ctd. It's like if the game crashes any time i try to be a victim; i've tried to submit someone and everything worked fine, so the problem is only when i try get submitted. Ye, it's not working, still get ctd. Actually i believe this might be a problem only about submit, because if i get ctd even when i try to surrender then it should has nothing to do with requiem.
Antonio121989 Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 I am having problems with submiting to animals. I was having a CTD until I saw this http://www.loverslab.com/topic/39152-sexlab-submit-crash/ Now it works, ok, but with creatures it keeps saying it didn't accepted my surrender, even when I am defeated and the auto surrender comes. Also I putted the surrender to all creatures. Please help.
ZipZop Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 I have similar issue with critters. After spamming surrender key until they accept, char goes to knee but no animation plays, char gets back up like nothing happened. Creatures also no longer aggro afterwards (I waiting a couple minutes) unless I attack them. I don't have them magic modder skills, please help? I give you hug.
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