toys Dark Desires Club

[BigOnes69]

6 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Issues don't fix themselves.

My prediction is that you will have more issues, unless this is a case where you've decided to try a new game or something along those lines.

 

When install instructions say start a new game, do I really need to start a new game?

There you go again cat herder extraordinaire.

[Miauzi]

Vor 7 Stunden sagte Sinisterme614:

Wie auch immer, es macht sehr viel Sinn, dass sich die Leute darüber beschweren, was es anders und tatsächlich herausfordernd gemacht hat, besonders jetzt und Tage.

 

Und ich war konkret. Es gibt einfach nichts weiter zu erwähnen. Separate Orgasmen ließen die Mods anders und einzigartig sowie „herausfordernd“ herangehen. Darüber scheine ich mit denen, die sich beschwert haben, auf entgegengesetzten Spektren zu sein. Und ich weiß, die meisten wissen nicht einmal, wie man SLSO installiert, oder wollen sogar eine Herausforderung, geschweige denn, es richtig zu benutzen und/oder es in ihren Ladeaufträgen zu haben.

 

Ein bisschen wie der Furniture Framework-Mod. Toller Mod, wenn Sie wissen, wie man ihn benutzt, und oder viele Möglichkeiten haben, ihn zu verwenden. Ein weiterer Mod, bei dem in riesigen Ladeaufträgen, wenn jedes ESP zählt, dies eine ist, die die Leute dazu neigen, abzuschaffen. Ich verstehe es. Weniger Anforderungen sind immer besser. Daher die großartige Arbeit, die Sie bereits geleistet haben. Und Vertrauen, es wird geschätzt.

 

Nur nicht mehr für mich.

 

Toy's macht es viel zu einfach und ich bin der Überlebenskünstler. Eigentlich mag ich es, wenn es erstmal nicht so läuft und genieße die kalten Winterwinde von Skyrim. Ich bin das eine Prozent. 

 

Es ist aber in Ordnung und KEINE große Sache. Vor allem, nachdem man einige der letzten Posts gesehen hat, mit denen man sich auseinandersetzen muss (übrigens viel Glück). Und ich hatte einen Freund, der mir die 1.2.0 Beta schickte. Trotzdem wäre es schön, es verfügbar zu sehen, wenn möglich. Und ich weiß, die Seite hat Grenzen, wie groß die Dateien sein können, und 1.2.0 am besten ist fast ein Gigabyte. Aber ich kann immer noch träumen. 

 

Außerdem habe ich in letzter Zeit selbst mit dem Creation Kit herumgespielt. Betrachten Sie diesen Beitrag also nicht in einem schlechten Licht. Das, das ist Ermutigung. Kudo's für Ihre Bemühungen und wieder. Viel Glück!

 

who is looking for a challenge in the virtual sex mini game in an RPG...

..well - I don't know how to answer that diplomatically

*face palm*

the whole post just makes me shake my head - especially when I think back to the early days of the mod, when it felt like every second user post was a

complaint about the use of SLSO and a request not to make it a "hard" requirement for the mod installation

and because of the contribution of a single user, all this should be reversed - all the work from the SL framework to that of toys?

*pffft*

 

Spoiler

wer beim virtuellen Sex-Mini-Spiel in einem RPG eine Herausforderung sucht...

..nun - ich weiss gar nicht wie man diplomatisch darauf antworten soll

*facepalm*

 

der ganze Beitrag lässt mich nur mit dem Kopf schütteln - vor allem wenn ich an die Anfangszeit des Mods zurück denke in der gefühlt jeder zweiter User-Beitrag eine

Beschwerde über die Nutzung von SLSO enthielt bzw. die Bitte es nicht als "harte" Voraussetzung für die Mod-Installation zu machen

 

und wegen des Beitrages eines einzelnen Users soll das alles wieder rückgängig gemacht werden - die ganze Arbeit vom SL-Framwork auf das von Toys?

*pffft*

 

[Magos567]

THNAK YOU ❤️  v 2  rocks hard

[VirginMarie]

9 hours ago, BigOnes69 said:

There you go again cat herder extraordinaire.

 

meeeeeoooww  *purrrrs innocently*

 

9 hours ago, Miauzi said:

it felt like every second user post was a complaint about the use of SLSO

 

puuuuuurrrrrr

 

I used a heck of a lot of the feedback during those exciting times, when developing the Toys&Love Mini-Game. I learned a lot. You could almost say I made Toy&Love's Mini-Game because of this mod, because I loved the idea of outcomes you can use to reward or punish but could see there was nothing good enough for that yet. The original author for this mod went to great lengths to implement what he did do, using SLSO/SL... it took a lot more than what those mods offer, thus it was largely a custom DDC feature.

 

But don't wanna scare Sinisterme614 away as I need them to try it out and give feedback to make it even better. I see this as opportunity. So far, I have had a bit of feedback, but mostly it's been on the "it's too hard" side of things, so I'm pretty sure I did not make it too easy. So, I need both sides of this...

• Does it need ways to be eaiser?
• Does it need ways to make it harder (and no I don't mean the schlong) ?
• Does it need something to explain it clearer, somehow? I did update this How to Achieve Simultaneous Orgasm yesterday, trying to simplify and make it clearer, but the problem is, how many will ever read it? In game things like the highlight text for hotkeys, other MCM option highlight text, and first-time use pop up messages, can go a long way

 

8 hours ago, Magos567 said:

THNAK YOU ❤️  v 2  rocks hard

 

RAWRRRR

Edited October 13, 2022 by VirginMarie

[Miauzi]

Vor 8 Minuten sagte VirginMarie:

 

meeeeoooww *schnurrt unschuldig*

 

 

puuuuurrrrrr

 

Bei der Entwicklung des Toys&Love-Minispiels habe ich viel von dem Feedback aus diesen aufregenden Zeiten genutzt. Ich habe viel gelernt. Man könnte fast sagen, dass ich das Minispiel von Toy&Love wegen dieser Mod gemacht habe, weil ich die Idee von Ergebnissen liebte, die man zur Belohnung oder Bestrafung verwenden kann, aber ich sah, dass dafür noch nichts gut genug war. Der ursprüngliche Autor dieses Mods hat große Anstrengungen unternommen, um das zu implementieren, was er tat, indem er SLSO/SL verwendete ... es brauchte viel mehr als das, was diese Mods bieten, daher war es größtenteils ein benutzerdefiniertes DDC-Feature.

 

Aber ich will Sinisterme614 nicht verschrecken, da ich sie brauche, um es auszuprobieren und Feedback zu geben, um es noch besser zu machen. Ich sehe dies als Chance. Bisher habe ich ein wenig Feedback erhalten, aber meistens war es auf der Seite „es ist zu schwer“, also bin ich mir ziemlich sicher, dass ich es mir nicht zu einfach gemacht habe. Also brauche ich beide Seiten davon...

• Braucht es Wege, um einfacher zu sein?
• Braucht es Möglichkeiten, es schwieriger zu machen (und nein, ich meine nicht den Schlong)?
• Braucht es etwas, um es irgendwie klarer zu erklären?

 

 

RAWRRRR

 

I'm currently taking a conscious break from skyrim - the tour through the quest line with "Nightshade" was quite a challenge for me

but this is NOT due to the mini-game

after all there is, e.g. with "Toys" a kind of introduction through the "shadow" in the "cave" under the additional stone (on the lake)

at some point you understand what the keys are for - it just took me quite a long time to work out a timing

And as I understand it, the same "mechanics" are used in the mini-game in the club

so i would figure it out

Well - here's an idea:

An introduction to the "mechanics" through the quests given by the "Mistress" - just such small tasks as the "Shadow Girl" sets

expand or modify the previous ones

Spoiler

Ich habe mir derzeit eine bewusste Auszeit von skyrim genommen - die Tour durch die Questreihe mit "Nachtschatten" hatte mich schon ziemlich gefordert

das ist aber NICHT auf das Mini-Spiel zurück zu führen

immerhin gibt es ja z.B. bei "Toys" eine Art Einführung durch den "Schatten" in der "Höhle" unter dem zusätzlichen Stein (auf dem See)

 

irgendwann kapiert man wofür die Tasten sind - ich habe eben nur recht lange gebraucht um mir ein timing zu erarbeiten

 

Und so wie ich es verstehe wird ja die gleiche "Mechanik" bei dem Mini-Spiel im Club angewendet

also ich käme dann damit klar

 

Nun - da wäre eine Idee:

Eine Einführung in die "Mechanik" durch die Quests die von der "Mistress" gegeben werden - also ebensolche kleine Aufgaben wie sie das "Schatten-Mädchen" stellt

die bisherigen erweitern bzw. modifizieren

 

[VirginMarie]

43 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

And as I understand it, the same "mechanics" are used in the mini-game in the club

 

Yes, entirely the same. In Toy Story, all 5 outcomes are used, just like this mod.

In SLaVE, only the Simultaneous Orgasm is a win for doubling Love Shout damage.

 

43 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

An introduction to the "mechanics" through the quests given by the "Mistress"

 

Yes. Like how Nightly in Toy Story teaches you using Trial Altars.

 

Mistress could teach you to not be a selfish brat and at least make sure your partner cums  

Edited October 13, 2022 by VirginMarie

[Miauzi]

Vor 9 Minuten sagte VirginMarie:

 

Ja, ganz gleich. In Toy Story werden 5 Ergebnisse verwendet, genau wie dieser Mod.

In SLaVE ist nur der gleichzeitige Orgasmus ein Gewinn für die Verdopplung des Schadens von Love Shout.

 

 

Ja. Zum Beispiel, wie Nightly in Toy Story Ihnen den Umgang mit Versuchsaltären beibringt.

 

Die Herrin könnte dir beibringen, kein egoistisches Gör zu sein und zumindest dafür sorgen, dass dein Partner abspritzt  

and only when this (the customer's orgasm) is achieved are the (other) customers unlocked

for this one would have to be assigned a man or a woman as a "training partner" by the mistress or she would do it herself

would it work like this in the club without massively interfering with the existing system?

 

[VirginMarie]

13 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

and only when this (the customer's orgasm) is achieved are the (other) customers unlocked

for this one would have to be assigned a man or a woman as a "training partner" by the mistress or she would do it herself

would it work like this in the club without massively interfering with the existing system?

 

 

It could be that you only become employed if you pass the trial. Then everything else just works as is fine.

[Miauzi]

Vor 3 Minuten sagte VirginMarie:

 

Es kann sein, dass Sie nur dann eine Anstellung bekommen, wenn Sie die Probe bestehen. Dann funktioniert alles andere wie es soll.

 

I think that would be an acceptable way

you shouldn't even think about the fact that there are people who can't even find the club - how do they want to bring a guest to a climax

(okay, that was a bit sarcastic - but I'm currently working on "Fallout 4" and have to switch from cbbe to FG because otherwise nothing works properly *grrr*)

[daveedmee]

On 10/13/2022 at 2:36 AM, VirginMarie said:

 

Issues don't fix themselves.

My prediction is that you will have more issues, unless this is a case where you've decided to try a new game or something along those lines.

 

When install instructions say start a new game, do I really need to start a new game?

I think my issue was that I forgot to run the installation test. The MCM didn't show up when I had the problem but when I was starting a new game it did again. Only mod I disabled was the Realistic LoveCum Pack. Could also be that I didn't give my game enough time to load all the mods and configs at first before starting playing. 
My laptop is rather slow so when starting a new game it can take like 10 minutes or so before all the messages disappear. Guess I thought it was done and did stuff that causes the issue to happen. But I dunno, I'm not a programmer. I just play horny Skyrim mods

Edited October 14, 2022 by 0feed0me0

[VirginMarie]

5 hours ago, 0feed0me0 said:

 MCM didn't show up when I had the problem but when I was starting a new game it did again

 

When the MCM did not show up, Toys&Love was essentially not running, thus not much could work.

Mistress could not equip a toy, for example, and love scenes could not play.

 

When you started a new game, you fixed that.

 

5 hours ago, 0feed0me0 said:

Only mod I disabled was the Realistic LoveCum Pack. 

 

Any of the packs... Love, SLAL, Cum, Music... are not plugins (no esp taking up a spot in your load order), thus they are 100% safe to add or remove any time.

Disabling that cum pack was not your problem.

 

5 hours ago, 0feed0me0 said:

I'm not a programmer. I just play horny Skyrim mods

 

I'm not a programmer, just an innocent virgin making innocent mods for horny Skyrim mod players.

[stin2pig]

If the club can change to another darker place like sewer in solitude etc , this mod is perfect.

[teutonic369]

what is the hotkey to kneel ? mistress tells me to kneel quest keeps failing

[Miauzi]

Vor 5 Stunden sagte stin2pig:

Wenn der Club an einen anderen dunkleren Ort wie Kanalisation in Einsamkeit usw. wechseln kann, ist dieser Mod perfekt.

 

The club would not have to move for this - a magic door could solve the problem

the construction of such teleport doors could also be packed into a quest line, which we have already discussed here.

Then the entrance in Weisslauf (Hall of the Dead) would actually only be a portal door into a Daedric dimension - that could also be done

cleverly install the Sucubus as a club owner.

The quest line discussed would then not revolve around the achieved new "outposts" but around new (protected) portal doors

 

Spoiler

Dazu müsste der Club nicht umziehen - eine magische Tür könnte das Problem lösen

 

die Errichtung solcher Teleport-Türen könnte man auch gut in eine Questreihe verpacken über die wir hier schon diskutiert haben.

 

Dann wäre der Zugang in Weisslauf (Halle der Toten) eigentlich auch nur eine Portal-Tür in eine Daedrische Dimmension - da liesse sich auch

der Sucubus als Club-Besitzerin geschickt einbauen.

Die andiskutierte Questreihe würde sich dann nicht um das erreichtne neuer "Aussenstellen" drehen sondern um neue (geschützt angelegt) Portal-Türen

 

[VirginMarie]

9 hours ago, stin2pig said:

If the club can change to another darker place like sewer in solitude etc , this mod is perfect.

 

I thought the location to be a bit strange myself.

But the original author explains it... It's in the story, explained if you talk to some lovely folks in the dungeon.

[VirginMarie]

4 hours ago, teutonic369 said:

what is the hotkey to kneel ? mistress tells me to kneel quest keeps failing

 

There is no hotkey to kneel.

The collar Mistress equips makes you crawl normally, but there's 2 cases where it won't...

1. Toys&Love engages the crawl on a delay sometimes. This was unnecessary and is fixed in the next release for Toys&Love
2. If you wear a toy that locks your wrists (example: a yoke), you can't and won't crawl

Soultion: just walk around in front of the Mistress, instead of crawling.

 

I've listed that in the troubleshooting section here... Dark Desires Club - Tips & Hints

[Random_]

Hi, just installed your mod and seems to work fine, very nice!

Just one questions: I think I have a problem with the mistress: when I tell her that I want to work there, she tells me to follow her: I do, than she stops and I dunno what I gotta do. Talking with her doesnt help + the quest just tells me to follow her.
 

Edited October 24, 2022 by Random_

[VirginMarie]

31 minutes ago, Random_ said:

Hi, just installed your mod and seems to work fine, very nice!

Just one questions: I think I have a problem with the mistress: when I tell her that I want to work there, she tells me to follow her: I do, than she stops and I dunno what I gotta do. Talking with her doesnt help + the quest just tells me to follow her.
 

 

This implies you have in installation mistake, making it not possible for Mistress to proceed. First thing to check is this (copied from the main page)...

 

1. IMPORTANT: Once in game... If you can't answer YES to the following, there's an installation mistake...
   • Do you see an MCM menu for Dark Desires & Toys&Love? A mod's MCM is not showing
   • Run the Toys&Love - MCM - Setup tab - Installation Test. Does it pass? Steps to fix if the test in MCM failed

 

If you can't answer yes to those, follow the links.

If you CAN answer yes, I'd need to see your log, where you run the game briefly, just enough to recreate the problem, on a new game. How to get a Papyrus Log?

 

In addition to that, please confirm that you started a new game.  do I really need to start a new game? 

[Random_]

3 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

 

This implies you have in installation mistake, making it not possible for Mistress to proceed. First thing to check is this (copied from the main page)...

 

1. IMPORTANT: Once in game... If you can't answer YES to the following, there's an installation mistake...
   • Do you see an MCM menu for Dark Desires & Toys&Love? A mod's MCM is not showing
   • Run the Toys&Love - MCM - Setup tab - Installation Test. Does it pass? Steps to fix if the test in MCM failed

 

If you can't answer yes to those, follow the links.

If you CAN answer yes, I'd need to see your log, where you run the game briefly, just enough to recreate the problem, on a new game. How to get a Papyrus Log?

 

In addition to that, please confirm that you started a new game.  do I really need to start a new game? 

Is there any other way to generate a Papyrus log?
Because the directory where Skyrim.ini is, is on "read only" and even if I remove the flag, it appears again, so logs cant be written there.

[VirginMarie]

21 minutes ago, Random_ said:

Is there any other way to generate a Papyrus log?
Because the directory where Skyrim.ini is, is on "read only" and even if I remove the flag, it appears again, so logs cant be written there.

 

This is the one way to generate the log.

Read only, to me, would suggest you are in the wrong location. Skyrim.ini will be in different locations depending on your setup, and can be in more than one place, but only one place is the place its actually using.

 

What's the answer to the 3 questions above (3rd one being... did you start a new game?)

If not yes, yes, and yes, we should not be jumping to spending time on the log, so just want to make sure it's a yes, yes and yes, essentially exhausting all the usual  

[Random_]

52 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

 

This is the one way to generate the log.

Read only, to me, would suggest you are in the wrong location. Skyrim.ini will be in different locations depending on your setup, and can be in more than one place, but only one place is the place its actually using.

 

What's the answer to the 3 questions above (3rd one being... did you start a new game?)

If not yes, yes, and yes, we should not be jumping to spending time on the log, so just want to make sure it's a yes, yes and yes, essentially exhausting all the usual  

Yes, I started a fresh new game.
Yes, I see both the McM. 
Yes, I ran it and the test animation worked.

And I managed to make the log, here it is.


 

Papyrus.0.log

Edited October 25, 2022 by Random_

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, Random_ said:

Yes, I see both the McM. 
Yes, I ran it and the test animation worked.

And I managed to make the log, here it is.


 

Papyrus.0.log 246.01 kB · 0 downloads

 

Did not say if started a new game, but your log shows you did.

In 6mins of play time, you have:

• 43 Cannot open store <-- these are usually just soft dependency checks which are fine
• 378 Error
• 191 Warning

Many of the above would be fine, without consequence, but I do see several of them are from Toys&love, and not fine... most likely why the quest with Mistress can't proceed. Log entries that all look something like this....
[10/25/2022 - 04:16:59AM] Error: Unable to link types associated with function "OnUnequipped" in state "" on object "toyshandler".

• This is implying that the scripts are not there. Kinda of a big WTF?... Toys can never error out like this on a new game, when installed completely. So I think your mod manager has screwed you over, not installed things entirely, leaving some script files missing. This happens. Toys is actually looking very functional in the log in most regards. Did all the startup things right. I see your install test. But the errors I see would prevent using/equipping at least some of the toys which Mistress tries to put on you.
• DDC (this mod) also has some lines like that, so same problem... missing files.

Solution....

• If you are using Vortex, use its purge feature, then redeploy. This will always fix that kinda screw up
• If you are NOT using Vortex, I don't know any procedure to ensure all its well... other than reinstalling every mod. Maybe there is a way to do like Vortex, but I don't use any other mod manager do don't know

Other thing I noticed:

You are running Nemesis. See Is Nemesis supported?

I don't think this is your problem. Usually, I see loads of animation errors from those using Nemesis, but yours is clean other than XPMSE for sure is not working with Nemesis. Toys looks happy with Nemesis but will have some troubles with arm biding animations (just part of them). Not game breaking.  As a general rule, I'd not run Nemesis unless you have mods that must have Nemesis.

 

One last little note... You seem to have the bare minimum installed for Toys&Love. Not a problem for Dark Desires. Would recommend starting out with the Music Packs since that will be used lots in Dark Desires (so you can find out if you like that... can be turned off). Also, you might read this and see what else is recommended when starting out... Toys&Love - Tips. It's a whole world to explore. 

 

 

 

[Random_]

8 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Did not say if started a new game, but your log shows you did.

In 6mins of play time, you have:

• 43 Cannot open store <-- these are usually just soft dependency checks which are fine
• 378 Error
• 191 Warning

Many of the above would be fine, without consequence, but I do see several of them are from Toys&love, and not fine... most likely why the quest with Mistress can't proceed. Log entries that all look something like this....
[10/25/2022 - 04:16:59AM] Error: Unable to link types associated with function "OnUnequipped" in state "" on object "toyshandler".

• This is implying that the scripts are not there. Kinda of a big WTF?... Toys can never error out like this on a new game, when installed completely. So I think your mod manager has screwed you over, not installed things entirely, leaving some script files missing. This happens. Toys is actually looking very functional in the log in most regards. Did all the startup things right. I see your install test. But the errors I see would prevent using/equipping at least some of the toys which Mistress tries to put on you.
• DDC (this mod) also has some lines like that, so same problem... missing files.

Solution....

• If you are using Vortex, use its purge feature, then redeploy. This will always fix that kinda screw up
• If you are NOT using Vortex, I don't know any procedure to ensure all its well... other than reinstalling every mod. Maybe there is a way to do like Vortex, but I don't use any other mod manager do don't know

Other thing I noticed:

You are running Nemesis. See Is Nemesis supported?

I don't think this is your problem. Usually, I see loads of animation errors from those using Nemesis, but yours is clean other than XPMSE for sure is not working with Nemesis. Toys looks happy with Nemesis but will have some troubles with arm biding animations (just part of them). Not game breaking.  As a general rule, I'd not run Nemesis unless you have mods that must have Nemesis.

 

One last little note... You seem to have the bare minimum installed for Toys&Love. Not a problem for Dark Desires. Would recommend starting out with the Music Packs since that will be used lots in Dark Desires (so you can find out if you like that... can be turned off). Also, you might read this and see what else is recommended when starting out... Toys&Love - Tips. It's a whole world to explore. 

 

 

 

Sadly Im not using Vortex, Im using Mod Organizer 2.
And yes, Im using Nemesis because some battle animation requires it over FNIS and since I dont mind creatures animation, I stopped using FNIS in general.
About having the bare minium that's true, Im really noob with installing mods, so Im scared to fuck things up the more I add things. Once - and if - I'll make this works, surely I'll add music and some other mods, but first I need to fix this.

I'll try to reinstall these mods and will let you know, in any case, thanks for your help!

[Random_]

Reinstalled everything, same problem. I follow the mistress, she reaches a wall and stands still without upgrading the quest/triggering any event.

Ah, any chance that might be a conflict with OPrivacy? Since with all the "non essential" NPC (so excluding the arena guy/cards guy/drugs lady and so on) I can only use the OPrivacy option, I dont have anything related to club - like, I cant have sex with them, even if I started the mistress quest.

Edit: dunno if is needed, but I want to specify that I dont use SexLab Framework, I use OStim.

Edited October 25, 2022 by Random_

[VirginMarie]

4 minutes ago, Random_ said:

Ah, any chance that might be a conflict with OPrivacy? Since with all the "non essential" NPC (so excluding the arena guy/cards guy/drugs lady and so on) I can only use the OPrivacy option, I dont have anything related to club - like, I cant have sex with them, even if I started the mistress quest.

 

If OPrivacy does as you described, blocking dialogue, well then... absolutely it could be breaking any chance of many things working, and not just in this mod.  And that would make OPrivacy a very destructive, unfriendly mod.

 

If you try without OPrivacy, and confirm its the problem please let me know so I can put it in a Mod Conflicts article.