toys Dark Desires Club

[street2]

Using a minimalistic Setup with no Sexlab installed I get the following Problem:

 

Entering the Club and asking to work there results in the very first Mistress Quest breaking - I follow her, nothing happens. Also can't talk to Clients.

Entering the Club through SimpleSlavery everything works fine.

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, street2 said:

Using a minimalistic Setup with no Sexlab installed I get the following Problem:

 

Entering the Club and asking to work there results in the very first Mistress Quest breaking - I follow her, nothing happens. Also can't talk to Clients.

Entering the Club through SimpleSlavery everything works fine.

 

Copy/pasted from Installing & Getting Started on the main page...

 

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When starting a new game, make a save, & load it. DDC actors may not interact with you, until you've loaded a save

 

 

If you can't answer YES to the following, there's an installation mistake...

• Do you see an MCM menu for Dark Desires & Toys&Love? A mod's MCM is not showing
• Run the Toys&Love - MCM - Setup tab - Installation Test. Does it pass? Steps to fix if the test in MCM failed

 

 

 

Let me know if this helps. If not, need to get more details, like your papyrus log for a game session recreating it. How to get a Papyrus Log?

[street2]

31 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Copy/pasted from Installing & Getting Started on the main page...

 

 

 

Let me know if this helps. If not, need to get more details, like your papyrus log for a game session recreating it. How to get a Papyrus Log?

 

Didn't help. I see an MCM and the Installation Test is succesful.

Papyrus.0.log

[VirginMarie]

57 minutes ago, street2 said:

 

Didn't help. I see an MCM and the Installation Test is succesful.

Papyrus.0.log 1.02 MB · 1 download

 

601 Errors

4793 Warnings

 

Either your installation is not healthy, or most likely this save is very corrupt.

Maybe you've broken the Golden Rule, maybe not starting a new game when adding this mod or Toys&Love to your game which is a must...  When install instructions say start a new game, do I really need to start a new game?

 

First thing to check as a test... start a new game... go into the club.

[street2]

1 hour ago, VirginMarie said:

 

601 Errors

4793 Warnings

 

Either your installation is not healthy, or most likely this save is very corrupt.

Maybe you've broken the Golden Rule, maybe not starting a new game when adding this mod or Toys&Love to your game which is a must...  When install instructions say start a new game, do I really need to start a new game?

 

First thing to check as a test... start a new game... go into the club.

 Was a new Game. Many Warnings/Error because sls wasn't deinstalled correctly. Reinstalled Sexlab and SLS and can't replicate error, everything working (476 Errors half of which are from the Mod TripleTriad in Skyrim and another ~100 from zaz and 205 Warnings in new papyrus log).

Will uninstall sls (correctly this time) as well as Sexlab and try if the error still comes up.

Worth mentioning maybe - This time (with Sexlab/SLS installed) after entering the Club and paying 100 Gold the Guard forcegreeted me and took Weapons or something.

That didn't happen in the old save, so I guess there already went something wrong.

Edited December 4, 2022 by street2

[VirginMarie]

9 minutes ago, street2 said:

 Was a new Game. Many Warnings/Error because sls wasn't deinstalled correctly. Reinstalled Sexlab and SLS and can't replicate error, everything working (~476 Errors and 205 Warnings in new papyrus log).

Will uninstall sls (correctly this time) as well as Sexlab and try if the error still comes up.

Worth mentioning maybe - This time (with Sexlab/SLS installed) after entering the Club and paying 100 Gold the Guard forcegreeted me and took Weapons or something.

That didn't happen in the old save, so I guess there already went something wrong.

 

There is no such need to uninstall SLS correctly IF you are starting a new game. All you need to do is remove the mod. Done.

AND you MUST start a new game when making these changes to your load order.

 

entering the Club and paying 100 Gold... Yes it was a given you would not have seen this when DDC is unable to initialize. Basically, DDC was not running. You were using a very corrupt save.

Edited December 4, 2022 by VirginMarie

[street2]

7 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

 

There is no such need to uninstall SLS correctly IF you are starting a new game. All you need to do is remove the mod. Done.

AND you MUST start a new game when making these changes to your load order.

 

entering the Club and paying 100 Gold... Yes it was a given you would not have seen this when DDC is unable to initialize. Basically, DDC was not running. You were using a very corrupt save.

It was a new Game.
I saw the pay 100 Gold prompt, I didn't get a forcegreet at the Guard after the teleport. DDC was running.

The Mod was uninstalled (with a new Game afterwards) but somehow some sls_ Scripts were still in the Directory getting loaded and spamming Error Messages.

 

Anyways about to finish removing all the sls/sexlab stuff again and will see (on a new game game of course...) If I can replicate the Problem.

[Fredfish]

17 hours ago, street2 said:

It was a new Game.
I saw the pay 100 Gold prompt, I didn't get a forcegreet at the Guard after the teleport. DDC was running.

The Mod was uninstalled (with a new Game afterwards) but somehow some sls_ Scripts were still in the Directory getting loaded and spamming Error Messages.

 

Anyways about to finish removing all the sls/sexlab stuff again and will see (on a new game game of course...) If I can replicate the Problem.

Are you using a Mod manager or just dumping files into /Skyrim/Data folder?

[street2]

3 hours ago, Fredfish said:

Are you using a Mod manager or just dumping files into /Skyrim/Data folder?

Mod Manager of course but nevermind about that I wasn't able to replicate the "Mistress not doing anything after following her" Bug with any (clean) config of Mods I used so I guess it was simply a Issue of too many Script Errors from leftover Mods or something along those lines.

Edited December 5, 2022 by street2

[Talesien]

Question: Is there a compelling reason why some of the girls belong to the vampire faction? They don't usually look the part and especially for the girls out in the cities that can be a problem as some NPC's have vampires as enemy (like those added by Immersive Patrols, which also frequent the inns at time). Needless to say it does not lead to joy and love. ?

 

[VirginMarie]

10 minutes ago, Talesien said:

Question: Is there a compelling reason why some of the girls belong to the vampire faction? They don't usually look the part and especially for the girls out in the cities that can be a problem as some NPC's have vampires as enemy (like those added by Immersive Patrols, which also frequent the inns at time). Needless to say it does not lead to joy and love. ?

 

 

The original author made the vampire theme run deep into the whole thing. Not sure I could say there's dire need for it, but it adds flavor, and would be hard to remove, since it's in much of the quests/dialogue, which is voiced. Since the working girls take shifts, switching between in and out of the club, there's no way to remove it outside the club, unless no slave is a vampire. A few clients are a vampire too but not your issue.

 

I've not used any mod where this conflicts but I'm sure it would if they are enemies. What does the conflict end up actually doing? Couple of girls clawing each other's eyes out sounds like it could be fun.  Should I detect when the fight breaks out and force them into scenes so they can kiss and make up? Script has much that went into detecting if they are dead and not doing stupid stuff if they are. I added the MCM slider to adjust the number of Working Girls outside the club, which can be set to 0, so there is that option.

 

I suppose I could change their faction to become DDC's own vampire faction, so the things it does for itself keep on keeping on, while they don't get detected by another mod. Would have to think on that, like if there's any impact.

[Talesien]

5 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

I've not used any mod where this conflicts but I'm sure it would if they are enemies. What does the conflict end up actually doing? Couple of girls clawing each other's eyes out sounds like it could be fun.  Should I detect when the fight breaks out and force them into scenes so they can kiss and make up? Script has much that went into detecting if they are dead and not doing stupid stuff if they are. I added the MCM slider to adjust the number of Working Girls outside the club, which can be set to 0, so there is that option.

I've found at least two mods so far that cause problems with Vampires (guess that's the reason that the Vampire Wenches from Immersive Wenches are not in the Vampire faction ... nor is Serana btw. ^^), the one I still use (and plan to keep) is: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/718
That mod adds Dawnguard patrols, which aren't a problem as I've never seen them in a city (they are more a nuisance if the player becomes a vampire or lugs around a vampire follower that (unlike Serana) is in the Vampire faction). The mod also adds groups of 'travelers', which do enter the cities and stay at the inns during the night (those travelers can be just that, can also be merchants and guards, at any rate there is usually always one heavily armed and armored chap around).
The result of the conflict is a dead working girl, as those travelers attack on sight and always seem to get the upper hand. No idea if the girls respawn, if not the DDC could run into a man... erh girlpower problem soon enough. ^^
If you feel like scripting a creative solution to the problem, be my guest, it would certainly be funny. Failing that though, some other solution would be nice (of course I could also remove the animosity to vampires from those travelers using xedit if no other solution seems feasable).

[VirginMarie]

6 hours ago, Talesien said:

If you feel like scripting a creative solution to the problem, be my guest, it would certainly be funny. Failing that though, some other solution would be nice (of course I could also remove the animosity to vampires from those travelers using xedit if no other solution seems feasable).

• Na I was kidding about the creative 
• If you remove them from the vamp faction, it will break the quests
• There's a total of 6 slaves who are Vamps, so not a problem if they are all dead, there's still plenty of whores, and you can fill in for them like a little brat
• I don't think they will re-spawn. This is realistic, we don't want vampires to overrun the club anyhow
• I'm thinking the consequence is fine, you end up with some dead working girls, all is well... things continue. Unless something is found where it can't handle them dead, why change anything?

Not saying I'd never change this but removing them from vamp faction needs to include changing to a new faction that is also in the many quest conditions. Won't be the next release... it's feature frozen and testing now done (theme... furniture love).

[Talesien]

On 12/6/2022 at 6:08 PM, VirginMarie said:

Won't be the next release... it's feature frozen and testing now done (theme... furniture love).

So you are saying there is a beta available? Didn't see any on your discord.

[VirginMarie]

6 minutes ago, Talesien said:

So you are saying there is a beta available? Didn't see any on your discord.

 

Beta for Toys&Love, not for DDC. I might be releasing both tomorrow-ish.

[BigOnes69]

9 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Beta for Toys&Love, not for DDC. I might be releasing both tomorrow-ish.

Is this the SE version of the furniture luv update that you did for LE.

[VirginMarie]

6 hours ago, BigOnes69 said:

Is this the SE version of the furniture luv update that you did for LE.

 

Toys&Love will always release for LE & SE/AE

DDC will always only be for SE/AE. LE is not possible

[VirginMarie]

Dark Desires Club v2.1 Released

 

What's New  See... Change Log

 

Needs Toys&Love v2.6+

New Toys Furniture LovePack Recommended

Edited December 8, 2022 by VirginMarie

[kohlteth]

@VirginMarie It's a pity you couldn't have taken over Captured Dreams from Veldarius, you could have performed the same miracles you have with this mod. 

[Miauzi]

Am 06.12.2022 um 18:08 Uhr sagte VirginMarie:

• Na, ich habe über das Kreative gescherzt 
• Wenn Sie sie aus der Vamp-Fraktion entfernen, werden die Quests abgebrochen
• Es gibt insgesamt 6 Sklaven, die Vamps sind, also kein Problem, wenn sie alle tot sind, es gibt immer noch viele Huren, und Sie können sie wie ein kleines Gör ausfüllen
• Ich glaube nicht, dass sie wieder spawnen werden. Das ist realistisch, wir wollen sowieso nicht, dass Vampire den Club überrennen
• Ich denke, die Konsequenz ist in Ordnung, Sie haben am Ende ein paar tote Arbeiterinnen, alles ist gut ... die Dinge gehen weiter. Wenn nicht etwas gefunden wird, wo es sie nicht tot handhaben kann, warum etwas ändern?

Ich sage nicht, dass ich das nie ändern würde, aber das Entfernen aus der Vampir-Fraktion muss den Wechsel zu einer neuen Fraktion einschließen, was auch in den vielen Questbedingungen enthalten ist. Wird nicht die nächste Veröffentlichung sein ... die Funktionen sind eingefroren und die Tests sind jetzt abgeschlossen (Thema ... Möbelliebe).

what I personally find very funny the statement with "vampires take over this club"

Seriously - the lady in the basement of punishments is a real vampire dominatrix - not a slave
the succubus hired them personally!

Club owner "Succubus" personally enjoys vampires? They don't look like slaves to me either, or am I missing something?
There's even a...blood fountain in your domicile?

well, I do not know...

[VirginMarie]

17 minutes ago, kohlteth said:

@VirginMarie It's a pity you couldn't have taken over Captured Dreams from Veldarius, you could have performed the same miracles you have with this mod. 

 

Back then, I was working only on Shout Like a Virgin, and I never imagined working on anything else. SLaVE took all my available time . I guess my point is, don't tempt me to work on anything more! There is no time.

[VirginMarie]

20 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

what I personally find very funny the statement with "vampires take over this club"

Seriously - the lady in the basement of punishments is a real vampire dominatrix - not a slave
the succubus hired them personally!

Club owner "Succubus" personally enjoys vampires? They don't look like slaves to me either, or am I missing something?
There's even a...blood fountain in your domicile?

well, I do not know...

 

It was just a smartass comment that did not make any sense, which was kinda the point  

[BigOnes69]

9 hours ago, Miauzi said:

what I personally find very funny the statement with "vampires take over this club"

Seriously - the lady in the basement of punishments is a real vampire dominatrix - not a slave
the succubus hired them personally!

Club owner "Succubus" personally enjoys vampires? They don't look like slaves to me either, or am I missing something?
There's even a...blood fountain in your domicile?

well, I do not know...

A succubus is a form of Demon. Why would they not have vampires as part of their power structure. Other Demons do such.

[VirginMarie]

8 hours ago, BigOnes69 said:

A succubus is a form of Demon. Why would they not have vampires as part of their power structure. Other Demons do such.

 

Ok we will let them stay! But I already said they can stay. If they get their asses spanked going out into the towns, well that's their problem however  

[AWHA2]

For whatever reason, when I get a message that a collar is forcing me to crawl, my character still walks/runs normally.