Naked Defeat AE/SE

[Nymra]

41 minutes ago, Angelvine said:

You need to add debug and clean animation issue to help prevent great issue in naked defeat mods 

 

Like same Defeat 

 

well, if I know how a problem can be solved I can prevent it from happening and dont need a debug lol
the problem here is FINDING the issue and for that I need the users to play and report. 

 

[Ngo Van Dang]

18 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

faulty mesh (remove newly installed meshes and try again) 

too many animations (check FNIS) 

Load order incorrect (use LOOT) 

COme here again when removing Naked Defeat solves the crash

Oh lol it was actually load order issue, running LOOT actually fixed
I was dumb, sorry for bad reports

[Nessa]

Minor FNIS bug with the latest 4.80 + hotfix.

 

 

Had a look. Comparing to older versions, I think in the latest one you've uncommented lines 61 & 62 of FNIS_NakedDefeat_List.txt. Commenting them out again fixes the issue. (At least according to FNIS.)

[Nymra]

1 minute ago, Nessa said:

Minor FNIS bug with the latest 4.80 + hotfix.

 

 

Had a look. Comparing to older versions, I think in the latest one you've uncommented lines 61 & 62 of FNIS_NakedDefeat_List.txt. Commenting them out again fixes the issue. (At least according to FNIS.)

 

error should be harmless tho. meaning the anims should still play.

in any case I want to wait with the FNIS update for the next bigger update (I m working on more Scenes for SS++ and kidnapped Redux Functionality (abducted at sleep for starters :D) 

[axel9fr]

I have success to make a screen shot about the landscape bug that I tell you before :

 

[Nymra]

4 minutes ago, axel9fr said:

I have success to make a screen shot about the landscape bug that I tell you before :

 

 

 

that is not a bug but intended behaviour. it allows spawning a flat surface with "ACtion Key" while you are looking for a spot.

 

1. did you press "K" while crawling?
2. did you spam "K" while surrendering?

 

Edited May 25, 2022 by Nymra

[axel9fr]

Yes I have put K after defeat, during the wait of the animation, that come 30 to 90 second after. When I surrender me it's possible that I have spam the K key too...

 

After freedom the PC is still in god mode too

[axel9fr]

Oh I precise I m not crawling, just walk.

[Nymra]

31 minutes ago, axel9fr said:

Yes I have put K after defeat, during the wait of the animation, that come 30 to 90 second after. When I surrender me it's possible that I have spam the K key too...

 

After freedom the PC is still in god mode too

 

papyrus.log.

 

when you are in god mode its most likely a stackdump fucking your game up. that could also explain the long delays you have.

fix your game first or upload a papyrus.log when things go sideways in naked defeat or I cannot help you, even when im 99% sure that in this case its your Load Orders fault not a Naked Defeat problem. 

OR you just installed it wrong...  

Edited May 25, 2022 by Nymra

[Rosvinar]

Greetings, I rarely ever post or ask questions here. but I had a quick question.

Under, "action key" there's a mention of instead of the action key sending you too SS++, it will wend you to a tavern instead.
out of curiosity what is the ETA on that being added?

Thanks for all the amazing work work so far Nymra. almost no issues and nothing a quick restart doesn't seem to fix.

Edit: the reason being is my mod list throws a hissy fit whenever ANYTHING is updated. so I'm planning on sitting down and doing a clean reinstall of everything in a month or two. 

Edited May 25, 2022 by Rosvinar

[Nymra]

17 minutes ago, Rosvinar said:

Greetings, I rarely ever post or ask questions here. but I had a quick question.

Under, "action key" there's a mention of instead of the action key sending you too SS++, it will wend you to a tavern instead.
out of curiosity what is the ETA on that being added?

 

ah, well, I m not decided on that yet.

I basically want to remove the quick escape and replace it with a "plead" function that either fails, releases or sends to an outcome like slavery/inn etc.

Not really sure how to do it yet, but having a quick escape hotkey is not really what I wanted. its just in there for debug. But the furniture stuff is kinda stable . soooo...

I also work on dropped in wilderness outcome too that can happen instead of the INN (also want to improve the inn drop. I know more about locations now...) 

 

TLDR: possible its added but no ETA yet and no guarantees of "how" 

 

 

 

17 minutes ago, Rosvinar said:

 

 

Thanks for all the amazing work work so far Nymra. almost no issues and nothing a quick restart doesn't seem to fix.

 

thank you so much always  glad to hear

 

17 minutes ago, Rosvinar said:

 

Edit: the reason being is my mod list throws a hissy fit whenever ANYTHING is updated. so I'm planning on sitting down and doing a clean reinstall of everything in a month or two. 

 

Naked Defeat is designed to not require a clean save and I hope I can keep it that way. 
the only thing that occasionaly might happen is that I screw something up that needs a hotfix, so if you test the mod first and then continue to play you should be safe
 

[axel9fr]

Maybe it could be Defeat Baka edition. I have desactivate it but not remove. I precise that I use a combinaison of Nemesis + Fins for animations.

[Nymra]

6 minutes ago, axel9fr said:

Maybe it could be Defeat Baka edition. I have desactivate it but not remove. I precise that I use a combinaison of Nemesis + Fins for animations.

 

I cannot help with that, I asume that everybody is using FNIS. 
I will add a toggle to disable the crawl animations in the next update, maybe the FNIS methods are somehow not working on those hybrid profiles. 

 

but I doubt that this is the only problem. and I doubt that Baka defeat is responsible, but hey, you never know and fixing Load Orders is a time consuming matter. 

[Rosvinar]

Thanks for the Quick reply Nymra

fyi its not a naked defeat thing... updating any mod causes me issues, I think its a pc setup thing and not actually related to the game. I've tried every logging tool I can think of and nothing has ever show in them in the past.

Also those additions sound perfect. I'm currently running ND without SS++ installed. have the inn chance set to 50% and everything plays out fine.

Edit: I just thought the edition of a button enabling the tavern outcome, sounded like a great addition because it would allow the player to choose how the encounter ends instead of there being a chance to just be released.

Edited May 25, 2022 by Rosvinar

[Nymra]

34 minutes ago, Rosvinar said:

Thanks for the Quick reply Nymra

fyi its not a naked defeat thing... updating any mod causes me issues, I think its a pc setup thing and not actually related to the game. I've tried every logging tool I can think of and nothing has ever show in them in the past.

Also those additions sound perfect. I'm currently running ND without SS++ installed. have the inn chance set to 50% and everything plays out fine.

 

 

nice! then you will soon see some more locations to be rescued to.

 

34 minutes ago, Rosvinar said:

Edit: I just thought the edition of a button enabling the tavern outcome, sounded like a great addition because it would allow the player to choose how the encounter ends instead of there being a chance to just be released.

 

yeaah, absolutly. so yes, in that regard that is my plan for the future exactly. 

[southpawrc]

I got defeated, then escaped and killed the captor. Now any time I sprint I get a message saying that if I run I will be "kept an eye on" what does this mean?

Great mod, thanks for the work

[axel9fr]

I send you my Papyrus.

 

I have make a new game with alternate start, go camping in the wild and lose a fight (not surrender) to the bandits near the campement. I don't have rape scene but I have the punishement scene.  Time before the begining of naked defeat if still long (I have move your mod near the top of load order).

 

I think the script make a long time before find a vil actor for rape.

Papyrus.0.log

[Elysian97m]

I forget, does this have male support or not? 

[Nessa]

On today's Weird Tales: on entry to Windhelm, Nilsine Shatter-Shield is automatically added as an ND follower! ? Whether you have other followers already or not! ? Tried going in with no followers registered and several followers registered. That Nilsine is one demanding lady! ?

 

When I get a chance tomorrow I'm going to check the log on this hilarity.

 

EDIT: I can warp in an instance of Nilsine (placeatme) and she still gets added! Not related to Windhelm! ?

 

EDIT 2: Just tried the log. Nothing really shows up. My test game has 2 existing registered companions. I used placeatme to create an instance of Nilsine, then I checked registered followers (weapon out + K) and Nilsine shows up registered. The only time Nilsine shows up in the log is when I check registered users. ?

 

EDIT3: Checked Nilsine's records. Nothing odd going on, just Pandorable's edit.

 

EDIT4: Only thing I noticed that was slightly odd, is Nilsine has the PlayerFollowerFaction by default. (In vanilla as well.) Aside from Pandorables un-potato head edit ?, I don't have anything altering her.

Spoiler

Editing out that faction, which she shouldn't have anyway (TODD!!!), gets rid of the automatic adding. Perhaps my USSEP is old and they have this fixed. I'll check up on that tomorrow.

Edited May 26, 2022 by Nessa

[Nymra]

6 hours ago, southpawrc said:

I got defeated, then escaped and killed the captor. Now any time I sprint I get a message saying that if I run I will be "kept an eye on" what does this mean?

Great mod, thanks for the work

 

update to latest version. 

if that does not help try to open save in SaveCleaner and look for an active script with "nade_calmquest" in it and maybe something along the lines of "FindGoodSpot()"
or "Escape()" and terminate it manually. 

I dont know why this happens, the scripts are all right. 
The message is only a message tho, so annoying but not harmfull. 
report back if the bug persists even after all this. 
 

[Nymra]

6 hours ago, axel9fr said:

I send you my Papyrus.

 

I have make a new game with alternate start, go camping in the wild and lose a fight (not surrender) to the bandits near the campement. I don't have rape scene but I have the punishement scene.  Time before the begining of naked defeat if still long (I have move your mod near the top of load order).

 

I think the script make a long time before find a vil actor for rape.

Papyrus.0.log 5.89 MB · 0 downloads

 

your Load Order is killing it.

if you have such a big sized log its usually a sign of trouble.

go through the log yourself and try to reduce the problems there first.

namely everything that comes after "stack:" (search for those) 

also it seems on your game the crawl anims cannot be loaded with the FNIS functions. 
dunno if that is a problem for other nemesis users too. 

 

in other words: at the moment there is nothing I can do for you. Naked Defeat is not the problem here.

I will add a toggle for the crawl anims tho just for debugging. but this will not speed things up since the errors produced by this are only like 0.0001% of the log file size  

[Nymra]

4 hours ago, Elysian97m said:

I forget, does this have male support or not? 

 

"kind of" 
means you can play with a male but some text and sounds might be off. I never had time to go through all content and see that it has a gender check.

I want to add basic support (like messages and sounds match) but more content, even male specific content maybe only when patreons vote for it (not my cup of tea )

 

[Nymra]

2 hours ago, Nessa said:

On today's Weird Tales: on entry to Windhelm, Nilsine Shatter-Shield is automatically added as an ND follower! ? Whether you have other followers already or not! ? Tried going in with no followers registered and several followers registered. That Nilsine is one demanding lady! ?

 

When I get a chance tomorrow I'm going to check the log on this hilarity.

 

EDIT: I can warp in an instance of Nilsine (placeatme) and she still gets added! Not related to Windhelm! ?

 

EDIT 2: Just tried the log. Nothing really shows up. My test game has 2 existing registered companions. I used placeatme to create an instance of Nilsine, then I checked registered followers (weapon out + K) and Nilsine shows up registered. The only time Nilsine shows up in the log is when I check registered users. ?

 

EDIT3: Checked Nilsine's records. Nothing odd going on, just Pandorable's edit.

 

EDIT4: Only thing I noticed that was slightly odd, is Nilsine has the PlayerFollowerFaction by default. (In vanilla as well.) Aside from Pandorables un-potato head edit ?, I don't have anything altering her.

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Editing out that faction, which she shouldn't have anyway (TODD!!!), gets rid of the automatic adding. Perhaps my USSEP is old and they have this fixed. I'll check up on that tomorrow.

 

hmm, yeah she should not have that faction. 
strange since she seems vanilla and I regularly visit whiterun (I really want to NOT go there anymore its gotten boring...) but I still happen to end up there loool and I never had her added.
it seems the rank she has in the faction is 0 so I think technically she should NOT have it...) 

 

do you have "SUM" installed (from inte?) you could check on her in its MCM (add her) and then in "factions" but well....

 

also maybe some mod overwrites the stuff and adds the faction? 

[Nymra]

Simple Slavery ++ can now sell you to 30 random locations all over skyrim (palaces, farms, military camps, towns).

its a simple scenario for now but will be expanded. 

in any case its not easy to escape, be warned.

only with Naked Defeat 4.80 and later

 

 

[Nessa]

41 minutes ago, Nymra said:

 

hmm, yeah she should not have that faction. 
strange since she seems vanilla and I regularly visit whiterun (I really want to NOT go there anymore its gotten boring...) but I still happen to end up there loool and I never had her added.
it seems the rank she has in the faction is 0 so I think technically she should NOT have it...) 

 

do you have "SUM" installed (from inte?) you could check on her in its MCM (add her) and then in "factions" but well....

 

also maybe some mod overwrites the stuff and adds the faction? 

 

That's the really wonky part! She's set to PlayerFollowerFaction in vanilla! Also weird: I drop by there all the time and she's never been mysteriously added in prior versions! ? Well, removed the faction in Pandorables face redo and all is well. ?

 

Anyway, I finally have a reason to install Simple Slavery, so I'll be testing that out next!