Naked Defeat AE/SE

[Talesien]

4 hours ago, poisonmoni said:

 

Thanks for the reply, and I apologize for responding after so many days, but I've been very busy lately. I plan to spend a couple of days checking the LL mod installation.
 

Anyway, I didn't have a general question, I had a pretty specific one: the text in the mod looks bad, as if there's a translation error or something. The words in the MCM menu don't make sense.
 

Anyway, thanks. I'll try to check with another source as well.

You are likely using a non-english version of Skyrim. Go to Data/Interface/translations and rename "Naked Defeat_GERMAN.TXT" to your language. That should solve your problem. I've a more extensive explanation somewhere else in this thread, you can look for it if you want to know details.

[Cursed Atelier]

Hey, I'm currently testing naked defeat with a very big load order, I'm getting a crash right after when I press the hotkey, as it is a big mod list it could be from anywhere, but from what I can see it has maybe something to do with: VampireClawsPlayerRef

I would love if you could point me in the right direction to figure this out.

Hope I'm not too much of a bother here.

Best Regards

Papyrus.0.log

crash-2025-05-28-06-05-33.log crash-2025-05-28-06-20-44.log

Edited May 28, 2025 by Cursed Atelier

[Talesien]

2 hours ago, Cursed Atelier said:

Hey, I'm currently testing naked defeat with a very big load order, I'm getting a crash right after when I press the hotkey, as it is a big mod list it could be from anywhere, but from what I can see it has maybe something to do with: VampireClawsPlayerRef

I would love if you could point me in the right direction to figure this out.

Hope I'm not too much of a bother here.

Best Regards

Papyrus.0.log 1.3 MB · 0 downloads

If you are getting a CTD (Crash To Desktop), we need a crashlog, the papyrus log does not contain the necessary information and due to the write delay of Papyrus is unlikely to be current up to the crash anyway. Get something like this: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/59818

It will write its output into the SKSE log folder (not the same as the skse folder in your data folder), usually under documents/my games/skyrim special edition.

 

[Cursed Atelier]

4 hours ago, Talesien said:

If you are getting a CTD (Crash To Desktop), we need a crashlog, the papyrus log does not contain the necessary information and due to the write delay of Papyrus is unlikely to be current up to the crash anyway. Get something like this: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/59818

It will write its output into the SKSE log folder (not the same as the skse folder in your data folder), usually under documents/my games/skyrim special edition.

 

Hey, I had the plugin already installed, update the previous post with the crash logs when I did testing with the hotkey.

[Igit234]

Does anyone still have the previous 4.9+ with patches versions? If so, can anyone provide it here? I wish to revert back to older versions for now as it's all currently a bit unstable. 

[poisonmoni]

On 5/27/2025 at 9:50 PM, Talesien said:

You are likely using a non-english version of Skyrim. Go to Data/Interface/translations and rename "Naked Defeat_GERMAN.TXT" to your language. That should solve your problem. I've a more extensive explanation somewhere else in this thread, you can look for it if you want to know details.

Oh, thanks, that's interesting. I thought the MCM mod translation was in the mod's original language, regardless of the game's language.

Thanks, I'll try it soon!

[Talesien]

29 minutes ago, poisonmoni said:

Oh, thanks, that's interesting. I thought the MCM mod translation was in the mod's original language, regardless of the game's language.

Thanks, I'll try it soon!

It's Skyrim (aka quirky). If you don't add translation files, then you are correct. If you do though, things get messy if the "right" file is missing. Not sure if there is a way around it, possible.

[Talesien]

8 hours ago, Cursed Atelier said:

Hey, I had the plugin already installed, update the previous post with the crash logs when I did testing with the hotkey.

Hmm, not a clear culprit I can make out. Rootbehaviourgraph, whatever that might be, looks fishy. It being a animation issue would fit right in as well. I would start there.

Edited May 28, 2025 by Talesien

[Talesien]

6 hours ago, Igit234 said:

Does anyone still have the previous 4.9+ with patches versions? If so, can anyone provide it here? I wish to revert back to older versions for now as it's all currently a bit unstable. 

IIRC those three should give you the last 4.95 version that was publicly available before Nymra moved to 5.x

Naked Defeat 4-95-5- Important Patch - (LE+SE).7z Naked Defeat 4-80 - FULL - (SE).7z Naked Defeat 4-81 - Patch - (SE).7z

[MR.Hunter]

well i read most post here from 210 page till las one .. so im not goin barking on some known bug which im sure Nymra know it .. and tbh this mod is one of mode i keep Essen for my game .. so ... i wish next up come up soo xD .. this after life scenario push in my nerve all time Teleport me to whiterun inn xD .. and it seem have some problem with archon brig when  i defeated its show error to me for use archon i have to be in 0% hp but im 0 hp hehe and its tell to reload save or use unstuck .. and without archon mode .. mostly u will GET 1000% robbery even if its 0 % be and all around 50% time show after life event ...

 

ya ya i know u all knew it about all this bug already isn't but i have to  say it too its so under my skin hehe i do love this mod .. and THX u for all ur hard work Nymra ♥

  

anyway dose its safe to go to downgrade verse of it ? i have SOOOOOOOOOO heavily mod list 

[Igit234]

3 hours ago, Talesien said:

IIRC those three should give you the last 4.95 version that was publicly available before Nymra moved to 5.x

Naked Defeat 4-95-5- Important Patch - (LE+SE).7z 591.45 kB · 1 download Naked Defeat 4-80 - FULL - (SE).7z 34.04 MB · 1 download Naked Defeat 4-81 - Patch - (SE).7z 6.73 MB · 1 download

Thanks so much for this!

[poisonmoni]

10 hours ago, Talesien said:

It's Skyrim (aka quirky). If you don't add translation files, then you are correct. If you do though, things get messy if the "right" file is missing. Not sure if there is a way around it, possible.

Problem solved, thanks
 

Interesting, it's always fun to learn new things, I didn't know this worked like this.
 

Well, now I just need to figure out why the game is stuck on the easiest difficulty, but I don't think that has anything to do with this mod, I'll still check all the options.

Thanks again, that was very kind of you ^-^

[Kanjo]

Is there a way to disable afterlife scenario? Or set it's chances to be relatively low? I like the overall idea, but not when death-fuck-resurrect loop become constant. I used this mod for being punished by bandits (or creatures) for trying to fight them not prepared well enough by chainfucked, goldrobbed, caged and sold to slavery. Not for executions tho...

[poisonmoni]

47 minutes ago, Kanjo said:

Is there a way to disable afterlife scenario? Or set it's chances to be relatively low? I like the overall idea, but not when death-fuck-resurrect loop become constant. I used this mod for being punished by bandits (or creatures) for trying to fight them not prepared well enough by chainfucked, goldrobbed, caged and sold to slavery. Not for executions tho...

In the MCM menu, there's an option to permanently delete this. I don't remember exactly which section it is in, but it should be disabled by default. Check your MCM menu.

I think this option is near the same section that lists the chances of being sold to the slave market and such. If no one else answers and you can't find it, I'll let you know later when I start the game.

[Kanjo]

1 hour ago, poisonmoni said:

In the MCM menu, there's an option to permanently delete this. I don't remember exactly which section it is in, but it should be disabled by default. Check your MCM menu.

I think this option is near the same section that lists the chances of being sold to the slave market and such. If no one else answers and you can't find it, I'll let you know later when I start the game.

Ah, in MCM it's called Death&Execution then? It was set to 0% by default, yes, so i thought it must be *dead end* scenarios... But i notice some fetures worked false-positive if left untouched, even if disabled by default like robbery that was set to 0 by default too untill i lost all my items, including quest-related, so i check/uncheck option manually. and now it works as intended. Will see how it goes now.

Edit: nope, afterlife is still triggering...

Edited May 29, 2025 by Kanjo

[Okim85]

I tried looking through the instructies and forum here if there is any solution but can't find it so ill ask here.

 

I am trying to use the naked defeat option where you get killed. I installed the necessary mods for it(proxy's, nymra's and funnybiz) and put it at 100% death chance in Naked defeat.

Now it does work but i only get proxy's impale animation every single time.

I enabled, rebuild and registered all animation of all the others but it keeps just doing the impale one.

Ofcourse i have all the required mods to use all the other animation packs but it still wont work.

 

Anyone know how to fix this?

I am a noob at modding so if you know please explain like i am a child lol

 

[Racihti]

19 hours ago, Talesien said:

IIRC those three should give you the last 4.95 version that was publicly available before Nymra moved to 5.x

Naked Defeat 4-95-5- Important Patch - (LE+SE).7z 591.45 kB · 9 downloads Naked Defeat 4-80 - FULL - (SE).7z 34.04 MB · 9 downloads Naked Defeat 4-81 - Patch - (SE).7z 6.73 MB · 9 downloads

Thanks for this. Hopefully this one works, as the newest one is quite broken.

[Talesien]

21 hours ago, MR.Hunter said:

anyway dose its safe to go to downgrade verse of it ? i have SOOOOOOOOOO heavily mod list 

Probably not, you could try downgrading then load reset and disable ND. Save and clean that save with ReSaver or similar. Enable ND again, save and reload and finally configure it again. That might work and give you a reasonably safe way to continue with 4.95 or something like that. I would try on a separate profile though, chances are you end up with a corrupted save game. If not it likely works and as stated should be reasonably safe to continue on.
I would prefer to have a step where you completly remove ND from the load order, then save and clean the save, but in my experience, at least with my LO, that is a 100% corrupted save failure if I try to load a save that had ND without it enabled.

Edited May 29, 2025 by Talesien

[MR.Hunter]

17 minutes ago, Talesien said:

Probably not, you could try downgrading then load reset and disable ND. Save and clean that save with ReSaver or similar. Enable ND again, save and reload and finally configure it again. That might work and give you a reasonably safe way to continue with 4.95 or something like that. I would try on a separate profile though, chances are you end up with a corrupted save game. If not it likely works and as stated should be reasonably safe to continue on.
I would prefer to have a step where you completly remove ND from the load order, then save and clean the save, but in my experience, at least with my LO, that is a 100% corrupted save failure if I try to load a save that had ND without it enabled.

yes i test to disable and remove it and fuck up save im goin keep it in my load and disable and make clean save and use old file u share thx u ... and before that i like to test it with SL defeted mod by beka maybe that keep ur char in bleeding and somehow fix this after life senario .. or not .. just to have test .. cuz use archon not work with all time keep u in bleeding and nothing happen and show error ND tell u cuz use archon u have be 0 HP so force ur save and reload ur game .. and i test with Yamite redux too it wasnt work too .... thx u 

[SexyTop69]

I was teleporting to the skyhaven temple and getting robbed too without input. So everyone is going back to 4.95 ND? I also have the beta 4.99 Beta version. Funny coming here and finding out everyone has the same issue. Is Nymra still supporting 1.5.9.7? AE seems iffy is it really better and more stable? AE seems to have a few issues here and there unlike 1.5.9.7 it seems.

Edited May 31, 2025 by SexyTop69

[Talesien]

4 hours ago, SexyTop69 said:

I was teleporting to the skyhaven temple and getting robbed too without input. So everyone is going back to 4.95 ND? I also have the beta 4.99 Beta version. Funny coming here and finding out everyone has the same issue. Is Nymra still supporting 1.5.9.7? AE seems iffy is it really better and more stable it seems to have a few issues here and there unlike 1.5.9.7.

Naked defeat has no dll, so should be compatible with all SE version as long as all requirements are available and correctly installed.
Is AE more stable, that's a trick question. What is AE? Technically AE is the paid version of SE with all the CC content. People do use AE to indicate all versions of 1.6.x though.
Are all versions of 1.6.x stable? Not necessarily. Is 1.6.1170 (and potentially 1.6.640) more stable than 1.5.97? Possible? Maybe not? Is 1.6.1170 less stable than 1.5.97? Definitely not. Are people dumb and don't get their LO's set up correctly, blaming it on 'AE'? Yes, some certainly do.
Is it "better" ... another trick question, better in what regard? It is basically SE, with some included mods and increase functionality. So what is better is utterly subjective IMHO. I prefer (by now) 1.6.1170 it is out for over a year and has been working well for me. Probably more stable than 1.5.97, but that might just be that I got better at modding, conflict resolving and troubleshooting then I was back on 1.5.97.

 

Edited May 30, 2025 by Talesien

[ruggsy9]

Hello, hope all is well

Is naked defeat incompatible with 

Thanks

 

[Talesien]

5 hours ago, ruggsy9 said:

Hello, hope all is well

Is naked defeat incompatible with 

Thanks

 

AFAIK it ND works with FSM.

[ruggsy9]

2 hours ago, Talesien said:

AFAIK it ND works with FSM.

Thank you, 

[yuhyyuh1]

Im having a problem with sabrecats, it always aborts. I double checked if the mcm option was ticked as well. And for a while demonic creatures (if they were close by) would be actor not the sabrecat.