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mia753

mia753

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On 10/5/2025 at 5:30 PM, safado said:

FYI everybody;

About Riekling Challenger in ThirskHall bugs.  Spoiler, still not fix in version 6.0. 

 

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I received some of bug reports from the latest Babodialogue update. One of the issues addressed is Riekling Challenger in ThirskHall. So  I checked it out. And unfortunately yes, it is broken now. I spent some time on investigating and was able to fix most of the issues. But also I found this event so old that it's flawed in general. It's not fun and boring. So I decided to take some time to improve it from the ground up. Let's start with creating a duplicate cell in order to avoid any unwanted contingencies. And maybe I could make use of this TNTR Riekling Pole I created along the way. Stay tuned.

 

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- Change Log(6.00)

- A new quest is added: Animalcare Markarth. You can trigger the quest by talking to the innkeeper in Markarth.
- There are several ways to help the owner. You may find you own suitable ways depending on your attractiveness,  nudity, allureperk, speechskill, etc.
 

Requires recent Baka Motion Data Pack 1.7+

 

 

 

Sorry to ask, but in which exact version of the mod does the quest related to the Rieklings break? I’d like to add this mod to my game just for the Orcs that visit you at your house, the Riekling hall, and the background comment system, but I see I need to be careful.

safado

safado

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4 hours ago, mia753 said:

Sorry to ask, but in which exact version of the mod does the quest related to the Rieklings break? I’d like to add this mod to my game just for the Orcs that visit you at your house, the Riekling hall, and the background comment system, but I see I need to be careful.

 

They are all bugged in some form, with a big mod list.  Last time I tested version 6 with a huge modlist, most of the scripted heavy scenes broke in the rape stage.  I'm redoing a smaller mod list, but have not tested yet. The issue with Babodialogue is that the scenes have complex staging and may break when another mod gets in the way or change something like nav-paths. Very true in the visiting ORCs scenes if the whiterun home is modified.   

Also is sensitive to conditions, for example if the MC is female body but male in SExlab, the scenes will break.  There are some mods that may switch the MC gender in sexlab if not careful with settings, mods like SL Eager NPC (SLEN) and a few others tracking SOS factions (SOS pubes). 

 

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mia753

mia753

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10 hours ago, safado said:

 

They are all bugged in some form, with a big mod list.  Last time I tested version 6 with a huge modlist, most of the scripted heavy scenes broke in the rape stage.  I'm redoing a smaller mod list, but have not tested yet. The issue with Babodialogue is that the scenes have complex staging and may break when another mod gets in the way or change something like nav-paths. Very true in the visiting ORCs scenes if the whiterun home is modified.   

Also is sensitive to conditions, for example if the MC is female body but male in SExlab, the scenes will break.  There are some mods that may switch the MC gender in sexlab if not careful with settings, mods like SL Eager NPC (SLEN) and a few others tracking SOS factions (SOS pubes). 

 

Oh, I didn't mean that... I know what I'm in for with Baka's mods, haha. Still, I consider it the best for this kind of modding. Also, I disable most of the events, except for the ones that interest me. Looking at his 'subscribestar' account, I can see the first complaint about the Rieklings in version 5.90... so I'm going to stick with version 5.81 and see what happens.

DS6677

DS6677

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I keep having an issue with NPCs running up to me and engaging in dialogue, but more than half the time, no dialogue appears for me, and the NPC continues to approach me to engage in dialogue. And the only way to get them to stop is to kill them. I have sexlabdialouges installed, but I had the issue without that being installed as well. Does anyone have this issue, and if so, what did you do to fix it?

Darkflip95

Darkflip95

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@factoryclose

Hey there, I know this isn't a related message but I've been trying to contact you regarding making custom traps for Trappy Reality.

I really love the idea and execution of Trappy Reality's traps and wanted to ask about making my own. I've been looking to add environmental hazards to Skyrim to make the experience more engaging. I wanted to start by using the web trap from Bleak Falls Barrow that you free Arvel the Swift from. Since it already has associated animations with it, I figured it would be a good starting point for learning how to implement that trap for the player to be caught by as well on certain webbed areas in the game.
 

As for making my own traps, is it as simple as animating a character in Blender with a object designated as a trap?

Garfieldcat

Garfieldcat

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Hi guys!
I've recently started using babo mods - finally got the courage to temper with adding keywords etc. :D 
Everything seems to be working fine - the events are popping. etc.
The problem starts when the sex scene is supposed to start.
For example: Orcs are coming, they enter, the whole dialogue starts, - I do get the pop-up from Sexlab if I want to use nearby bed or not and 1st animation plays fine, then the dialogue continues and when 2nd scene is supposed to start I get another sexlab pop-up but nothing happens. Orcs start to wander around, I'm free to walk around as well and that's that.
Example 2
When the Morthal Inn event starts, the dialogue works fine, the babo animations start as well (the falling down, being picked up, etc.).
Unlike with the orcs event, when I'm in the room and the dialogue is done and the sex scene is supposed to start, I get no sexlab pop-up, they instantly start walking around and I can do the same.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Oh! This might come in handy to some mod tech people out there:
when I opened the console to see if there are any issues I noticed these:
[bind]*something something* readyforstorymanager scene checks failed.

2_Unknown_2

2_Unknown_2

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I'm sorry if this has been answered somewhere already but is this mod incompatible with custom races? 

 

I've tested this mod with CBBE 3BA and the mod worked like it's supposed to. Then I tried using UBE 2.0: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/92989?tab=files&file_id=396237&nmm=1 and now I get no events what so ever when traveling on roads where I always got events using CBBE 3BA. Plus when asking innkeepers for gossip they just tell me "besides the war... not so much" but previously when using CBBE 3BA they comment about my vulgar attire and such. 

 

And yes. I have armor with Baka Aroused keywords applied to them.

 

Edit: Nevermind, I just needed to add keywords to the converted outfits too. Whoops. 

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Garfieldcat

Garfieldcat

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On 11/13/2025 at 4:50 PM, Garfieldcat said:

Hi guys!
I've recently started using babo mods - finally got the courage to temper with adding keywords etc. :D 
Everything seems to be working fine - the events are popping. etc.
The problem starts when the sex scene is supposed to start.
For example: Orcs are coming, they enter, the whole dialogue starts, - I do get the pop-up from Sexlab if I want to use nearby bed or not and 1st animation plays fine, then the dialogue continues and when 2nd scene is supposed to start I get another sexlab pop-up but nothing happens. Orcs start to wander around, I'm free to walk around as well and that's that.
Example 2
When the Morthal Inn event starts, the dialogue works fine, the babo animations start as well (the falling down, being picked up, etc.).
Unlike with the orcs event, when I'm in the room and the dialogue is done and the sex scene is supposed to start, I get no sexlab pop-up, they instantly start walking around and I can do the same.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Oh! This might come in handy to some mod tech people out there:
when I opened the console to see if there are any issues I noticed these:
[bind]*something something* readyforstorymanager scene checks failed.

It appears I have found the reason and a fix! :D 
I encountered few outdoor events and they fired up just fine - and went all the way to the end.
That got me thinking. Why some of the events work? And why the orcs somewhat work, but then stop in the middle of the event? :O 
Apparently some animations weren't properly registered... after re-enabling and registering all the animations the events finally started to work properly.
 

safado

safado

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On 11/10/2025 at 8:07 PM, DS6677 said:

I keep having an issue with NPCs running up to me and engaging in dialogue, but more than half the time, no dialogue appears for me, and the NPC continues to approach me to engage in dialogue. And the only way to get them to stop is to kill them. I have sexlabdialouges installed, but I had the issue without that being installed as well. Does anyone have this issue, and if so, what did you do to fix it?

 

That is likely not babodialogue. Likely the optional Sexlab Approach Redux or another mod.  It happened to me too, with various mods that force NPC to follow MC.  

 

 

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DS6677

DS6677

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10 hours ago, safado said:

 

That is likely not babodialogue. Likely the optional Sexlab Approach Redux or another mod.  It happened to me too, with various mods that force NPC to follow MC.  

 

 

cool thanks, i guess that's why there's a no approach spell

muhavaux33

muhavaux33

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Is creatures strictly required for the mod to run or can I do with normal humans just fine? What I mean by this is I did not install creature animations or add creatures with sexlab or anything like that and im wondering if it will cause issues with the mod if I do not have creatures

WaterRabbit

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2 hours ago, muhavaux33 said:

Is creatures strictly required for the mod to run or can I do with normal humans just fine? What I mean by this is I did not install creature animations or add creatures with sexlab or anything like that and im wondering if it will cause issues with the mod if I do not have creatures

Only if one of the horny creatures beats you in combat. Plus there is an encounter with horses which isn't forced.

Chlodwig

Chlodwig

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This mod is always starting to destroy the AI-Packages of NPCs and Followers,

For no reason this mod starts to overrwites essential npcs or followers ai package with one of this mod

so the NPCs Follower is suddenly for no reason transfere in some kind of spectator, clapping the whole time in his hands and make stupid comments but has no Dialogue.

killing and resurrecting which normaly makes the game load the npc with the orignal AI Package doesn't work. 

 

Does anyone know how to prevent this mod from breaking the game?

I get the feeling the whole mod is just fubar.

 

 

dragongodmod117

dragongodmod117

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19 hours ago, Burensc said:

How do you trigger the orc visit to Breeze home?

High enough "attraction" stats (page 1 of the MCM), own Breezehome, and I believe you also need a slightly lower reputation (which ties into the outfit tags).

Burensc

Burensc

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18 minutes ago, dragongodmod117 said:

High enough "attraction" stats (page 1 of the MCM), own Breezehome, and I believe you also need a slightly lower reputation (which ties into the outfit tags).

Ok thanks

shanktorias5

shanktorias5

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Is there a way to allow for female npc's and custom followers to harass the player? Tried to use mods that changes the gender by shlong however it didnt work. Maybe i need to add a keyword or something to follower or npc mods?

aim4it

aim4it

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I keep getting repeatable crashes when region events result in combat. Crash logger references (MovementPlannerAgentNavmeshBounds*).  I'm summing there's some bad nav mesh edits.  Also xEdit finds a lot of errors in the plugin with VMAD adapter and null dialogue topics.

  

[00:00] Start: Checking for Errors
[00:00] Checking for Errors in [08] BaboInteractiveDia.esp
[00:00] [Skyrim_English.DLSTRINGS] Using encoding (from language): 1252  (ANSI - Latin I)
[00:00] [Skyrim_English.ILSTRINGS] Using encoding (from language): 1252  (ANSI - Latin I)
[00:00] [Skyrim_English.STRINGS] Using encoding (from language): 1252  (ANSI - Latin I)
[00:00] [Dawnguard_English.DLSTRINGS] Using encoding (from language): 1252  (ANSI - Latin I)
[00:00] [Dawnguard_English.ILSTRINGS] Using encoding (from language): 1252  (ANSI - Latin I)
[00:00] [Dawnguard_English.STRINGS] Using encoding (from language): 1252  (ANSI - Latin I)
[00:01] [REFR:08367535] (places TrapLinker "Trap Linker" [ACTI:00079986] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of BaboEventRiftenRoom "Abandoned House in Riften" [CELL:08367002])
[00:01]     REFR \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [083675B4] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[00:01]     REFR \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [08367715] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[00:02] [HearthFires_English.DLSTRINGS] Using encoding (from language): 1252  (ANSI - Latin I)
[00:02] [HearthFires_English.ILSTRINGS] Using encoding (from language): 1252  (ANSI - Latin I)
[00:02] [HearthFires_English.STRINGS] Using encoding (from language): 1252  (ANSI - Latin I)
[00:02] [Dragonborn_English.DLSTRINGS] Using encoding (from language): 1252  (ANSI - Latin I)
[00:02] [Dragonborn_English.ILSTRINGS] Using encoding (from language): 1252  (ANSI - Latin I)
[00:02] [Dragonborn_English.STRINGS] Using encoding (from language): 1252  (ANSI - Latin I)
[00:05] BaboEventRieklingThirsk "BaboEventRieklingThirsk" [QUST:0807AD9B]
[00:05]     QUST \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [08466358] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[00:05] BaboBoyFriendVariableSetting "BaboBoyFriendVariableSetting" [QUST:08C3CC03]
[00:05]     QUST \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [08EBACB6] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[00:05] BaboMonitorScript "BaboMonitorScript" [QUST:087E22B8]
[00:05]     QUST \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Aliases \ Alias \ Alias Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [08A00193] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[00:06] TauntingProtectorBranch [DLBR:08000D64]
[00:06]     DLBR \ SNAM - Starting Topic -> Found a NULL reference, expected: DIAL
[00:06] Done: Checking for Errors, Processed Records: 37633, Errors found: 5, Elapsed Time: 00:06

 

crash-2025-11-20-00-55-01.log

safado

safado

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1 hour ago, aim4it said:

I keep getting repeatable crashes when region events result in combat. Crash logger references (MovementPlannerAgentNavmeshBounds*).  I'm summing there's some bad nav mesh edits.  Also xEdit finds a lot of errors in the plugin with VMAD adapter and null dialogue topics.

 

crash-2025-11-20-00-55-01.log 54.06 kB · 0 downloads

 

Those errors being there for years now.  He never clean them up.  Your issue maybe NAVmesh like you said, wrong ZAZ, another mod messing with AI and such.

 

Using Navigator - Navmesh Fixes may help with navmesh issues.

 

If you suspect Babodialgue as a troubleshooting step, try manually load it last after everything.  Actually not completely possible as anything flagged ESL will always load after mod 253, but try anyway.  Review the list I created of requirement, the link is in the first spoiler.

 

Also, make sure you are using Zaz Animation Pack 8+ (Plus) any time a ZAZ asset is used, it CTD if it is the wrong version.

 

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ZAZ Patch  Fix for ZAZ breaking rabbits and foxes death state.  (bug inherited from original ZAZ)   

  • ▪Zaz Animation SE 8.0+ (SE version) <--- 8.0+(plus) is not 8 (not plus), not 7, and not 9.  Wrong version will break the mod.  The download links are not ZAP 8+, instead are ZAP 7. The ZAP 8+ links are at the bottom of the description page, do not know why, may be is to troll noobs that do not read and breaks their game.  In the download section with ZAP 7, there is a ZAZ Patch file that is important for all version of ZAP, install that.  

 

Very old list of requirement, most of it still valid.  Review this

 

 

 

 

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EmmasBiscuits

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On 6/7/2023 at 3:42 PM, safado said:

 

SkyUI tend to do that sometimes.  The original code has a limitation of 128 items in the menu list.  If you have more than 128 mods that add a menu to SkyUi MCM then anything registering after 128 get pruned and will fail to create the MCM.   There's a fix for that somewhere. 

 

If is not that, because you have less than 128 mods that add MCM menus to SkyUi, then you can try to reset SkyUI to refresh all menus.

In console: 

setStage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1

The console command will tell SkyUI to reset and recreate the whole menu list again.  Try it in an interior "room" with a few or no NPC.  The script will take a while to complete, wait a couple of minutes depending on your hardware.

 

SkyUI is script based mod and if the PapyrusVM that process the script has a long queue of scripts it will delay or fail to add some menus.  Mods that have many dependencies can fail MCM creation if one of the dependencies scripts gets delayed. (sometimes)

 

Recommend read the SkyUi guide at least the Step3 (patches) and below.

 

 

Optional Papyrus performance tweaks. Besides the standard SkyrimSE community patches.

In SkyrimSE\AE: Try Papyrus Tweaks NG and enable "bSpeedUpNativeCalls = true" in the ini.  (ini is separate download in misc)

SSE Display Tweaks: (also download Performance INI) Read description. If you enable On-Screen Display to show FPS, you can add PapyrusVM status too.

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All-in-one solution for smooth FPS-unlocked gameplay. Includes a physics fix, borderless fullscreen performance boost, refresh rate control, highly configurable frame rate limiting, various bugfixes and more.

 

Years later and you're still the goat. This has been driving me nuts the past couple days of debugging to get everything in my load order stabilized and running.

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