Skyrim SexLab - Sex Animation Framework v1.62 - UPDATED Jun 3rd 2016

[Unspec]

Seem to be experiencing a CTD while saving or switching cells when there is an act going on or ending. Seems like VM freezing whenever there's an act breaks the mod.

[Anon96]

 

Something really weird is happening with the facial expressions on my characters they hardly ever show up and a lot of the time a characters mouth will vibrate it's really weird anyone any Idea whats going on?

 

I am having this issue as well, also, after my characters engage in "frivolities", they are afterwards unable to engage in combat, but can be engaged in combat by npc's.

 

Any thoughts?

 

That happens when you use tfc

[thevoyeur54]

i've posted my question on the support page for RPt already and i thought i'd mention it here aswell in case someone else is having the same issue. 

in the first instance, my character and her client were getting  undressed and they both got stuck in the undress animation. i unchecked the undress animation option in the sexlab setttings in MCM and loaded my save. i sent her to a different client and was surprised to see it happening again.  i looked in the options for Radiant Prostitution tweaked and found the minimal stripping option for PC and NPC. i loaded my save again and this time it worked perfectly. some times the npc kept all their armor/clothes on during the sex animation but other than that it was ok.  my new problem is when my character is told to undress by the client. i've tried it with the animations turned on in sexlab and with them turned off. with minimal stripping on and with off. no effect in any combination of options. my character undresses when told to and continues to undress repeatedly. i have left it to sort it self out but even though the client tells her to come closer so they can feel her body she carries on undressing even though she is naked. she has no weapons or rings or necklaces equipped just the tavern wenches dress and boots.   any suggestions gladly received.

[thevoyeur54]

please disregard my question as i am going to be playing rift for the forseeable future.

[Talbrooks]

 

 

Something really weird is happening with the facial expressions on my characters they hardly ever show up and a lot of the time a characters mouth will vibrate it's really weird anyone any Idea whats going on?

 

I am having this issue as well, also, after my characters engage in "frivolities", they are afterwards unable to engage in combat, but can be engaged in combat by npc's.

 

Any thoughts?

 

That happens when you use tfc

 

 

I'm not using tfc on purpose, just the free camera deal that comes with the framework.  Anyone know how to fix the expressions and get them working again?

 

[WaxenFigure]

Expressions are broken in the current framework.  There is no known fix because there's no known reason for why the problems it has are occurring.  It can't be fixed until someone figures out why it happens.  That's one reason why Ashal has excluded expressions from the next version of the framework and was thinking of making it a separate add-on mod.

 

Don't use TFC or the Free Camera option in Sexlab along with the Ragdoll option, they do not mix.  Another bug with no known reason but at least it's easily avoided.

 

 

 

 

[shinji72]

There is a vibration on the mouth sometimes but for the rest expressions are fully working. And It's much better than the blank faces you had before.
Please take notice that if you use TFC expressions (as well as lip synch with moaning) are not supposed to happen at all.

[Grimbold the unlovely]

 

Don't use TFC or the Free Camera option in Sexlab along with the Ragdoll option, they do not mix.  Another bug with no known reason but at least it's easily avoided.

 

I guess that explains why I have been getting CTDs at the end of some sexlab animations since upgrading to 1.39. I have now disabled ragdoll and no CTDs yet, touch wood.

[Grimbold the unlovely]

 

Here's a question... I've been playing the game recently using the latest framework and the XPMS extended skeleton with HDT and a CBBE body. Before that I was using the latest XPMS skeleton and a CBBE body. I've always had issues with poor alignments in many of the animations and bent schlongs lately.

 

Are most people using the UNPB body with Sexlab for best results? And by best results, I'm referring to the alignments because I think everybody is having the bent schlong issue with the latest framework.

 

Something in SOS itself is the cause of bent Schlongs as well as seeing guys with holes in their bodies instead of the underwear at first that then disappears.  Oddly enough, I loaded a game without SOS enabled, quit it without saving and then loaded it again with SOS enabled and both problems suddenly disappeared (I used Mod Organizer for that).  Others have reported that reinstalling SOS fixes the problems so if you are seeing such problems I would recommend you try those things first. 

 

Another (more radical) solution is to stop using SOS altogether and use the newer (for sexlab) version of 4udiks available on this site, under addons in index. I did that on one computer that was having serious SOS (and I do mean S.O.S) problems, and I have not regretted it. There is a trade off. I miss the control of the schlong (using page up and down), but the 4udik body is better to look at and it is sized well for sexlab anims. By using a nudesuit you get both flaccid and erect dicks, just not so good transitions between them. It is good to remember that SOS is not the only option out there.

[Claysson2]

Expressions are broken in the current framework.  There is no known fix because there's no known reason for why the problems it has are occurring.  It can't be fixed until someone figures out why it happens.  That's one reason why Ashal has excluded expressions from the next version of the framework and was thinking of making it a separate add-on mod.

 

Don't use TFC or the Free Camera option in Sexlab along with the Ragdoll option, they do not mix.  Another bug with no known reason but at least it's easily avoided.

 

Expressions DO work, they seem to be interupted by the Sounds ie , NPC smiles then moans, Smile expression disappears, then you see  her mouth move as she moans . Do the Sounds or Moans have have facial expressions attached to them? Difficult to explain.

[Claysson2]

Could the allighment thing have to do with the difference in Race heights? 

 

 Adult (Including Vampire)

Altmer (High Elves) - Male: 1.08, Female 1.06*
Argonian - Male: 1.01, Female 1.00
Bosmer (Wood Elves) - Male 0.98, Female 1.00
Breton - Male: 1.00, Female: 0.95
Dunmer (Dark Elves) - Male: 1.00, Female: 0.97*
Imperial - Male: 1.01*, Female: 0.96*
Khajiit - Male: 1.00, Female: 0.96*
Nord - Male: 1.03, Female: 1.00*
Orc (Orsimer) - Male: 1.045, Female: 1.03*
Redguard - Male: 1.02*, Female: 0.98*

[Grimbold the unlovely]

 

 

 

Expressions DO work, they seem to be interupted by the Sounds ie , NPC smiles then moans, Smile expression disappears, then you see  her mouth move as she moans . Do the Sounds or Moans have have facial expressions attached to them? Difficult to explain.

 

 

This is very interesting. Has anyone looked into this? There is a mod that replaces male sex voices with louder fx sounds. I have not tried it myself, but has anyone who has tried it noticed that expressions work well (at least for males)? 

[koffeien]

facial animations also work with submit + devices mod for me, but only there.

 

[WaxenFigure]

 

Expressions are broken in the current framework.  There is no known fix because there's no known reason for why the problems it has are occurring.  It can't be fixed until someone figures out why it happens.  That's one reason why Ashal has excluded expressions from the next version of the framework and was thinking of making it a separate add-on mod.

 

Don't use TFC or the Free Camera option in Sexlab along with the Ragdoll option, they do not mix.  Another bug with no known reason but at least it's easily avoided.

 

Expressions DO work, they seem to be interupted by the Sounds ie , NPC smiles then moans, Smile expression disappears, then you see  her mouth move as she moans . Do the Sounds or Moans have have facial expressions attached to them? Difficult to explain.

 

 

But the fact that the expression is cleared means it is broken, yes they work for static activities but when the animations start the expressions stop and the "lip sync" activities also seem to be affected by the expression causing the jaw to "chatter".

 

Frankly it appears that Bethesda never spent any time to make the two work together and that you can have one but not both.

 

 

[WaxenFigure]

Could the allighment thing have to do with the difference in Race heights? 

 

 Adult (Including Vampire)

Altmer (High Elves) - Male: 1.08, Female 1.06*

Argonian - Male: 1.01, Female 1.00

Bosmer (Wood Elves) - Male 0.98, Female 1.00

Breton - Male: 1.00, Female: 0.95

Dunmer (Dark Elves) - Male: 1.00, Female: 0.97*

Imperial - Male: 1.01*, Female: 0.96*

Khajiit - Male: 1.00, Female: 0.96*

Nord - Male: 1.03, Female: 1.00*

Orc (Orsimer) - Male: 1.045, Female: 1.03*

Redguard - Male: 1.02*, Female: 0.98*

 

Yes, that's why the next version of the framework is planned to allow "raceX on raceY" specific adjustments.  Also affecting alignment is the skeleton used since the naughty bits move around slightly (or significantly for those titanic tit and/or ass lovers) depending on the specific skeleton used.

 

 

[Claysson2]

I'm not sure,really, how things happen inside the Framework. I'm thinking that First the Expressions load up or Play, then the Sounds load. With the Sounds, the Lip Syc then "overwrites" the Expression(s) ? Personally I'd rather have the Expressions over the Lip syc, His/Her mouth is already open, for the expression(s).

[Grimbold the unlovely]

I'm not sure,really, how things happen inside the Framework. I'm thinking that First the Expressions load up or Play, then the Sounds load. With the Sounds, the Lip Syc then "overwrites" the Expression(s) ? Personally I'd rather have the Expressions over the Lip syc, His/Her mouth is already open, for the expression(s).

 

I totally agree. if Ashal or another modder could disable the lip sync during sex that might be the best solution possible.

[ddraggy]

Does anyone know how to use the nudesuit without the toon putting stuff like helmets back on? I've got the stripping checkboxes set up to strip everything off and then use nudesuit.

 

Result I'm getting now:

 

1. Dude strips off as expected (installed a default flaccid mesh)

2. Dude equips nudesuit (ta da erect penis)

3. Dude puts helmet back on (triggered by equipping nudesuit?)

4. Animation plays. Nudesuit and helmet on.

 

Is there a way to get him to ONLY put the nudesuit on without removing stuff from inventory? Or maybe put suit on first, THEN de-equip the rest of it?

 

 

[Bayman]

 

a simple request: Everyone Loves compliments, okay a couple .wav files from  days gone bye bye, Sexadicts, I thinks

 

001.wav

 

003.wav

 

006.wav

 

008.wav

 

009.wav

The first four would work great with some kind of afterglow animation (to follow sex as foreplay comes before it). The last one would be good with the current sexlab anims.

 

 

Great idea!

 

Btw: I'm also interested in a solution for the misaligned SOS schlongs. Some of my favorite animations still looks misshapen.

 

[Aim0]

Does anyone know how to use the nudesuit without the toon putting stuff like helmets back on? I've got the stripping checkboxes set up to strip everything off and then use nudesuit.

 

Result I'm getting now:

 

1. Dude strips off as expected (installed a default flaccid mesh)

2. Dude equips nudesuit (ta da erect penis)

3. Dude puts helmet back on (triggered by equipping nudesuit?)

4. Animation plays. Nudesuit and helmet on.

 

Is there a way to get him to ONLY put the nudesuit on without removing stuff from inventory? Or maybe put suit on first, THEN de-equip the rest of it?

 

I agree, it's annoying that NPCs redress their boots, weapons or helmet when they equip the nudesuit. I would like that they desequip everything then equip nudesuit only too

 

I think it's a bug : I noticed that PC doesn't re-equip boots or helmet when I use a nudesuit, like expected.

[WaxenFigure]

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I agree, it's annoying that NPCs redress their boots, weapons or helmet when they equip the nudesuit. I would like that they desequip everything then equip nudesuit only too

 

I think it's a bug : I noticed that PC doesn't re-equip boots or helmet when I use a nudesuit, like expected.

It's a annoying thing Bethesda did to make it easy for themselves, whenever you add something to the inventory of a NPC they automatically run through the whole inventory of that NPC and automatically equip the best of each kind of item.

 

Adding the "nude suit" causes that routine to run.

[Aim0]

Ok, so it's impossible to break this mecanism i guess... but if,with the nude suit, the mod adds one invisible helmet, weapon and boots, it would be possible to trick the system maybe ?

[ddraggy]

 

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I agree, it's annoying that NPCs redress their boots, weapons or helmet when they equip the nudesuit. I would like that they desequip everything then equip nudesuit only too

 

I think it's a bug : I noticed that PC doesn't re-equip boots or helmet when I use a nudesuit, like expected.

It's a annoying thing Bethesda did to make it easy for themselves, whenever you add something to the inventory of a NPC they automatically run through the whole inventory of that NPC and automatically equip the best of each kind of item.

 

Adding the "nude suit" causes that routine to run.

 

 

Convenient for Bethesda and a pain for everybody else!

 

Since it's the addition of the suit that triggers the routine, would running the strip-off procedure afterwards (while leaving the nude suit slot alone) work? Maybe this is already fixed in the alpha, in which case nvm.

 

Invisible gear might work too, but then there's the risk of super-tough naked people if something goes wrong...

[NozGame]

Hi i'm using SexLab but when I install it with Nexus Mod Manager I can go on the menu with SkyUI but when my character have sex with someone there is no animations, so what can I do to solve this problem ?

 

I'm using :

SexLab Aroused

SexLab Paycrime

SexLab Cumshot

TDF Agressive Prostitution

 

Of course I got SKSE, SkyUI and FNIS.

 

And sorry for my bad english

[WaxenFigure]

Hi i'm using SexLab but when I install it with Nexus Mod Manager I can go on the menu with SkyUI but when my character have sex with someone there is no animations, so what can I do to solve this problem ?

 

I'm using :

SexLab Aroused

SexLab Paycrime

SexLab Cumshot

TDF Agressive Prostitution

 

Of course I got SKSE, SkyUI and FNIS.

 

And sorry for my bad english

 

You must run the FNIS User Generator program after installing or removing any mod with animations, if you haven't done that yet then no animations will play.

 

Also when you run FNIS it must complete with no errors or it is the same as if you did not run it.

 

Finally, when running FNIS it should list all the mods it finds animations for so if the SexLab Framework isn't listed then it isn't installed properly (Nexus Mod Manager must have the option to not extract readme files turned off because it refuses to extract any text file which is necessary for FNIS to work).

 

One of those should get you fixed.