Public Whore

[csacskamacska]

I think this is one of the most unethical works of all (in its present state). Is the statement rude and strong? Maybe...

But both the "meat farm" and the "wartimes" are ....

But think about the story! Look through a little different glass ... Elisif is lonely too! He doesn’t even go down the street and in terms of a good driver, he doesn’t set an example!

The law either applies to everyone or it is not a law, but only an exclusionary and hateful and selective "revelation."

Do you need money?

No one in the cities pays taxes ... at least not spectacularly.

Who can pay the tax !? ... or do you prefer to do some work that can do that ...?

Is your behavior offensive to morals !? Get a job for the CITY! If you pay taxes you can do anything!

If the "city" finds out you're earning money by selling yourself in a pub ... "confiscate it from the recipient" and let go of your business with a tax burden.

* Leave the tasks of mediation for a certain commission and oblige the guilty host to provide the right place for the cost.

* If the waiter voluntarily or compulsorily earns his income with his body, why not pay tax for it ?!

* If the servant is a slave ... the situation is different. It can be sold and rented by the owner. That's obvious. You will also pay the tax ...

Revenue and law ...

If it applies to every woman who is unmarried ... it is timeless!

If it applies to young women, then all ...

Of course .... The player is the fuck because everything has to be done with him and in his direction.

But what about noble and moral norms? If someone doesn’t even have a dog or a monkey but is already a noble ragon, he is no longer considered an average citizen.
The city must protect such a person!

But....

Women living in the back of the yard can also be diverted to community service ... because they are required by law.

Or is there a difference between those living in the same caste? Especially the ... boss should set an example in every way!

Girls locked in a DD device can also do "public work" if they want to take their time off. No?

However, the tools are malicious and cruel because of the spells.

 

 

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Azt gondolom, ez az egyik legetikátlanabb munka mind közül (jelen állapotában). Durva és erős a kijelentés? Talán... 

De a "húsfarm" is és a "háborús idők" is az....

 

Azonban gondolj bele a történetbe! Nézd egy kicsit más üvegen át... Elisif is magányos! Még sem megy az utcára és jó vezetőhöz mérten, nem mutat példát!

A törvény vagy mindenkire vonatkozik vagy nem is törvény, hanem csak egy kirekesztő és gyűlöletkeltő és kivételező "kinyilatkoztatás".

Pénz kell?

A városokban senki sem fizet adót... legalább is nem látványosan. 

Ki tudod fizetni az adót!? ...vagy inkább vállalsz valami olyan munkát, amivel ezt kiválthatod..?

A viselkedésed közerkölcs sértő!? Vállalj munkát  VÁROSNAK! Ha fizet adót bármit megtehetsz!

Ha a "város" megtudja, hogy a kocsmában önmagad árusításával keresed a pénzt... "kobozzon el a fogadóstól" és adófizetési teher mellett engedje a tevékenységed. 

* Hagyja a kiközvetítéssel járó feladatokat egy bizonyos jutalékért és kötelezze a bűnös fogadóst a megfelelő hely önköltségért történő biztosítására.

* Ha a felszolgáló önkéntesen vagy kényszerűen a testével keresi a jövedelmét, miért ne fizessen érte adót?!

* Ha a felszolgáló rabszolga... más a helyzet. A tulajdonos árusíthatja és bérbe adhatja. Ez nyilvánvaló. Az adót is majd megfizeti...

Bevétel és törvény...

Ha minden nőre aki férjezetlen vonatkozik... akkor az kortalan! 

Ha a fiatal nőkre vonatkozik, akkor mindre...

Persze.... A játékos a balfasz mivel mindent vele és irányában kell megvalósítani.

De mi van a nemesi és erkölcsi normákkal? Ha valakinek még se kutyája se majma de már nemesi ragon él, akkor már nem tekinthető átlagos közpolgárnak. 
Az ilyen személyt a városnak védelmeznie kell! 

De....

Az udvar hátán élő nőket is ki lehet terelni közmunkára... mert a törvény kötelez.

Vagy az azonos kasztban élők között is van különbség? Főként a... főnöknek kellene példát mutatnia minden tekintetben!

A DD eszközbe zárt lányok is végezhetnek "közmunkát" amennyiben megkívánná váltani a szabadságát. Nem?

Azonban az eszközök rosszindulatúak és a varázslatok miatt kegyetlenek. 

 

Szóval... város és költségvetése. Adóteher... mindenkinek... vagy csak a kivételezettnek!? 

[Visio Diaboli]

5 hours ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

Could you add a method to clear your punishment score?  I'm still playing the save where I got the mysterious 100 punishment for clearing out Broken Helm Hollow (I think thats what its called, SE from Riften) when I wasn't a PW yet.  I can't seem to get rid of it.  I tried setting the lowest punishment score setting to be 150 and even disabling the first punishment tier, but I guess since I already reached 100 when it was set to 100 it doesn't care about any of those changes.  

Does punishment score not reset when starting duty? It seems to be a blind spot in the way I test the mod. I'll add a reset function for service-start and add it to the MCM.

 

1 hour ago, wutpickel said:

@Visio Diaboli do you plan to expand that mod still or is this overall the mod?

I'm still adding to it, you can see the current status on the Trello board, the white link in my signature. If you want NPCs to apply tattoos to you then Rape Tattoos is the closest you can get, I think. Though it won't differentiate between sex from PW and other mods. Drug use isn't out of the realm of possibility, probably as a random event someday. As for DE interrupting, the best I could do is send a dhlp-Suspend during approaches. I'll have to see where I can put that to most cleanly encapsulate PW's behavior in it.

 

52 minutes ago, MysticDaedra said:

My items were confiscated (enforced mode), but after completing my quota my inventory was not returned to me. The debug options in the MCM won't check/do anything. Help?

coc PW_HoldingRoom01

And see if one of the chests or NPCs has it. It should be a chest now but earlier versions used the NPCs there.

 

@csacskamacska I don't understand a lot of what you've wrote. But if you're saying that PW is unethical and unrealistic then you're correct, because that's the point of the mod.

Edited January 27, 2022 by Visio Diaboli

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, Visio Diaboli said:

Does punishment score not reset when starting duty? It seems to be a blind spot in the way I test the mod. I'll add a reset function for service-start and add it to the MCM.

I think i have to play longer. Currently i am just testing what works with the mod so i have lots of restarts. aehem.

10 minutes ago, Visio Diaboli said:

I'm still adding to it, you can see the current status on the Trello board, the white link in my signature. If you want NPCs to apply tattoos to you then Rape Tattoos is the closest you can get, I think. Though it won't differentiate between sex from PW and other mods. Drug use isn't out of the realm of possibility, probably as a random event someday. As for DE interrupting, the best I could do is send a dhlp-Suspend during approaches. I'll have to see where I can put that to most cleanly encapsulate PW's behavior in it.

In regards of DEC, i increased the time NPC can approach to the max which is 60 secs. That should help a little, but i think the better solution will be to suspend other mods in that event for the duration of PW doing it stuff. I think that would be better.

I am locking forward to the progress of the mod. For now this is in my load order. Sacrificing DF at the moment. I just could not make sense of it with PW.

 

[Celedhring]

Question as I haven't played PW long enough will the Jarl eventually force my PC back into being the PW for his city after the first time?

[shiagwen]

20 minutes ago, Celedhring said:

Question as I haven't played PW long enough will the Jarl eventually force my PC back into being the PW for his city after the first time?

Thats what i proposed too : repeat your quoata or get sold  (via ss++)

[shiagwen]

2 hours ago, wutpickel said:

I I just could not make sense of it with PW.

 

My sense for PW are the features. Actually radiant prostitution still has the overhand. But PW already has :

Threeome, Dog, Follower, Bandit camp

this solid and creature dens and PW would make it.

i also would highly appreciate zaz 8+ furniture sex, because that is absolutely missing in LL and really hot stuff.  Muuuuch more  important then all this story and blablabla  things people propose here.  Actually it is a bit of it in the punishment section, it should be available for clients with big money too and of course with all kind of furnitures.,

 

Edited January 27, 2022 by shiagwen

[RequiredUserName]

I encounter a really weird bug with this mod. For some reason whenever I have it active in my modlist, the interior atmosphere in inn is totally fucked up and my lightning mods seems to be overwritten (like no shadow anymore, there is even fog).

[MysticDaedra]

3 hours ago, Visio Diaboli said:

coc PW_HoldingRoom01

And see if one of the chests or NPCs has it. It should be a chest now but earlier versions used the NPCs there.

My items are with the NPC, but I am using the latest version of the mod (1.1.2, I believe?). Unfortunately all the items are now marked as owned by the NPC, which means if I take them they'll be marked as stolen. Additionally, my character isn't particularly gifted at pickpocketing lol. I don't suppose you have any suggestions on how to reacquire these items without causing the NPC to attack me?

[MysticDaedra]

I tried going back a save to just after I originally became public whore for the first time (SLSF enforced mode). I just gave myself the gold needed to complete the quota, and then gave it to the thane. Again I was released without being given my items back. Could be a bug, could be a conflict (probably a conflict) but I have no idea how to troubleshoot this.

 

Edited January 27, 2022 by MysticDaedra

[Visio Diaboli]

23 minutes ago, Kuriido said:

inn

Which

 

17 minutes ago, MysticDaedra said:

My items are with the NPC

See if targeting them in the console and entering 'removeallitems player' works. RemoveAllItems, as a papyrus function, takes an argument to remove the items to, but I'm not sure about the console command. Alternatively did you try killing her yet?

[Hex Bolt]

3 hours ago, Visio Diaboli said:

As for DE interrupting, the best I could do is send a dhlp-Suspend during approaches.

This is worthwhile to do, but unfortunately it might not stop all Deviously Enslaved Continued approaches.  As I reported over on the DEC discission, that mod ignores DHLP-Suspend events if it has already started its own approach.  Due to distance and pathing, that NPC might take a minute a more to arrive, so DEC could intrude sometime after you've sent DHLP-Suspend.  Just something to be aware of.

[RequiredUserName]

17 minutes ago, Visio Diaboli said:

Which

 

It was Bannered Mare but it turned out it was load order issue. I set the .esp higher and it solved the issue.

[Naps-On-Dirt]

1 hour ago, MysticDaedra said:

I don't suppose you have any suggestions on how to reacquire these items without causing the NPC to attack me?

If this happens again, you can select the NPC in console and type 'openactorcontainer 1'.  That doesn't fix the stolen issue though.

 

[Guest]

3 hours ago, shiagwen said:

My sense for PW are the features. Actually radiant prostitution still has the overhand. But PW already has :

Threeome, Dog, Follower, Bandit camp

this solid and creature dens and PW would make it.

i also would highly appreciate zaz 8+ furniture sex, because that is absolutely missing in LL and really hot stuff.  Muuuuch more  important then all this story and blablabla  things people propose here.  Actually it is a bit of it in the punishment section, it should be available for clients with big money too and of course with all kind of furnitures.,

 

Bandit Camp? That sounds fascinating. ?

[Guest]

2 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

This is worthwhile to do, but unfortunately it might not stop all Deviously Enslaved Continued approaches.  As I reported over on the DEC discission, that mod ignores DHLP-Suspend events if it has already started its own approach.  Due to distance and pathing, that NPC might take a minute a more to arrive, so DEC could intrude sometime after you've sent DHLP-Suspend.  Just something to be aware of.

I love the mod otherwise, but this is really an issue. But its a mod that guarantees sex all day plus enslavement which makes it fit in a (think think) story of you wandering around. Otherwise if you want to be enslaved you have to go through your mod and trigger it manually (which i do sometimes)

[Guest]

@Visio Diaboli I noticed that animations trigger through PW will overwrite other animations. For example, sex scene called for Billy's gloryhole, but it was replaced with ZAZ Yoke Missionary. Though i wish that the animations i would like to see are being played.

Thinking about it. I see that sometimes with other mods too. I kind of select my anims through anim loader. If ZAZ could be optional that would be really great. Can be but not a must.

DDZap is i think DD itself. So i am not sure which mod called it. Yours or maybe DD? Oh my god.

 

p.s. i think i may be wrong. Not sure. Please see the console output. Maybe that makes sense to you. I am trying.

Is this CDRE doing?

 

pps. i will drop DEC to see if that solves the problem. Perhaps its a troublesome mod. ?

 

Spoiler

 

Edited January 27, 2022 by wutpickel

[MysticDaedra]

1 minute ago, wutpickel said:

I love the mod otherwise, but this is really an issue. But its a mod that guarantees sex all day plus enslavement which makes it fit in a (think think) story of you wandering around. Otherwise if you want to be enslaved you have to go through your mod and trigger it manually (which i do sometimes)

I use Sexlab Sexual Fame to trigger PW automatically just from wandering around.

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, MysticDaedra said:

I use Sexlab Sexual Fame to trigger PW automatically just from wandering around.

Do you know if it will trigger it by wearing a collar?

The reason i am asking is that i am using Survival as my base. So all the tralala that goes with it. I am strict?

I may have to use aroused to trigger something to get "fame" in one way or the other if i drop DEC.

But i will give it a try. Just have make a new game (again). ?

[Visio Diaboli]

18 minutes ago, wutpickel said:

I noticed that animations trigger through PW will overwrite other animations. For example, sex scene called for Billy's gloryhole, but it was replaced with ZAZ Yoke Missionary. Though i wish that the animations i would like to see are being played.

ZaZ has a setting that forces bound animations if things like yokes are worn, I think. If not it then DD.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Visio Diaboli said:

ZaZ has a setting that forces bound animations if things like yokes are worn, I think. If not it then DD.

Ah, one of the mod i never look inside.

 

I still will check if DEC is the actual problem. Its just sometimes so confusing to know what causes what. I was told sometime ago that DD plays its animation instead of the normal ones when bound. Gloryhole is not bound so that is why i see this.

Previously i had that one problem, that anytime a sex act was called, it played BeltedSolo. Later i found out, that DD overwrites any animation that is not DD. Mm..

 

p.s. i solved it. Neither.

I had to uncheched in DD two options for animation and i unchecked the overwrite in ZAZ. This seems to solved it. Puhh... i already thought, well.

Edited January 27, 2022 by wutpickel

[MysticDaedra]

44 minutes ago, wutpickel said:

Do you know if it will trigger it by wearing a collar?

The reason i am asking is that i am using Survival as my base. So all the tralala that goes with it. I am strict?

I may have to use aroused to trigger something to get "fame" in one way or the other if i drop DEC.

But i will give it a try. Just have make a new game (again). ?

SLSF works by increasing fame amounts over time in different locations. You can adjust how quickly you accrue fame, and you can also adjust how much fame you need to have a guard accost you to start PW. DD (like collars) increase fame, being naked increases fame, having sex in public increases fame... there's a bunch of different categories. It's actually a nifty idea, a little more categorical than say simply using arousal like most mods do to trigger events.

[Guest]

16 minutes ago, MysticDaedra said:

SLSF works by increasing fame amounts over time in different locations. You can adjust how quickly you accrue fame, and you can also adjust how much fame you need to have a guard accost you to start PW. DD (like collars) increase fame, being naked increases fame, having sex in public increases fame... there's a bunch of different categories. It's actually a nifty idea, a little more categorical than say simply using arousal like most mods do to trigger events.

I do have fame installed. Its a fun mod. Though i never thought it through that.
I was incorrect if i said aroused. I meant approach which i do not have installed.

[Hessi]

I thought I'd just list the things that I found, trying the mod. I am playing the Legendary Edition. PW V1.1.2.    This is a completely fresh installation of the entire game.

 

I started it by reaching enough fame in the built in system (not SLSF), without enforced mode. The mod did not apply tattoos or restaints to me, even though it says DD and SlaveTats are present. I had configured the mod to confiscate my stuff, which it did. Now it marks everything I pick up as stolen. I don't think that should be the case. And after finishing my quota I did not get my stuff back. Neither does the option in the MCM to do that work.

Also, the mod makes NPCs approach you while you are in dialogue and then they treat you like you ignored them, rape you and only pay 50%.

I noticed that I did get little or no animations with blowjobs. Is that something the mod does? It kind of makes sense to me. I'm just asking because I wanted to use PW as a force start to turn my PC from a fighter into a cow by making cum contain lactacid (via SLsurvival). But that is only applied when a blowjob is involved. Another way for me to do that would be to make sure the approaches are treated as rape, so they can force drug the PC with lactacid (also SLsurvival). I don't know if I can arrange that though.

 

Also I am stuck in a swaying animation with mouth wide open, which makes it impossible to walk, except when I draw my weapons. My suspect for this is FHU Baka Edition though. I'll need to do some research there, too.

 

Overall I love the idea of the mod and am looking forward to new versions. I am aware that some of the problems I have could be caused on my end, but I found some of these reported by others as well.

Edited January 28, 2022 by Hessi

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Hessi said:

Also I am stuck in a swaying animation with mouth wide open, which makes it impossible to walk, except when I draw my weapons. My suspect for this is FHU Baka Edition though. I'll need to do some research there, too.

 

Do you referring to a DD animation? If so, you need to turn off in DD the animation conversion. There is an option that will play DD animation instead of normal ones. Also, some events from DD will start at random which can be disabled.

[Lenore]

4 hours ago, Hessi said:

The mod did not apply tattoos or restaints to me, even though it says DD and SlaveTats are present.

 

I think you have to choose add the tatts to Slavetatts mcm options.  I've had this happen too and that fixed it.