Public Whore

[monty359]

Hi @Visio Diaboli

 

i did some more investigations into the problem with dialogues not firing correctly.

 

Changed the script fragment for approach dialogues:

Moved the command to set the variable “Approached=True” from “on dialogue start” to “on dialogue end”. In order to work for all normal approaches, the same command needed to be set to the "WalkAway" dialogues.

Additionally, set a condition for ending of approach scenes: Scene ends, when Variable “Approached+ is set to 1 (I am not sure, if this condition is needed at all). The effect of those changes is, that when the dialogue is without errors, everything is fine as it should be. If the dialogue for random event approach is interrupted for some reason (cancel, another dialogue), you can speak to the NPC and proceed again (this still can time out, timer setting in MCM).

With this changes alone, I got the normal approaches working.

The random approaches still do not work properly, because for some reason the conditions with the variables for events (0,1,2,3 and 4) do not work properly. As a test for my theory, I removed the conditions with those variables and tagged those dialogues as random. The game now chooses one of the dialogues randomly. It worked now every time.

Bottom line: Something with those variables is not working, my scripting knowledge is poor, but know the code, maybe it helps!

Second problem, I was not able to resolve, was the random event approach for the follower. For me this event never worked. After some testing, I found that the QuestAlias for the follower is not filled. Because of that, and the conditions for the dialogue, that should be spoken/presented, the check is failed and in game, it appears, as if there are no dialogue options for that quest.

The dialogues should be chosen, based on the gender of the follower. Deactivating this check for the “She” branch starts the dialogue properly, but if the path for animation is chosen, not filled follower alias starts a solo animation for the approaches.

All my attempts of defining the FollowerAlias have failed so far.

Anyone an idea or hint, how to properly define the QuestAlias for the current follower?

 

@Visio Diaboli, I hope this helps you for the trouble shooting.

 

Cheers!

[Elaendir]

Made this to minimize impact on load order/conflicts. Distributes PW keywords to location via KID.

PublicWhoreKW_KID.zip

[Skjoldberg]

Quest "Show of Strength" has a dead end?

 

The "Show of Strength" quest doesn't proceed or end or doesn't do anything after my PC was forced to swear the oath to Dibella under drugs which binds her to not-my-jarl Ulfric Stormcloak. I waited for 1.5 hours real time but nothing is changing, all NPC are "busy", thane Enrensen only has its standard "who are you" dialogue, the cook is doing nothing either, and all doors are locked. My inventar is still empty. Nothing happens. Is this intended? Last comment was that the guests are feasting to celebrate the oath. But even after 1.5 hours real time (not ingame time), still no progress, change or anything.

 

Some background:

My PC, quite freshly arrived in Skyrim (thane of just Whiterun and only half-progressed through the companions, 2 dragons slayn), is "ineliglible" in all holds as all value thresholds are not yet met. She received the letter from that "Thane Enrensen" while never have visited Windhelm nor could be known in any way over there or anywhere else but Whiterun. She followed the invitation out of curiosity and resisted whenever possible except for the knife option due to a speech check failure despite having an already high speech level of 63 (thanks to SL Leveling).

 

How do I come out of the dead end? (Except for loading a save file from before traveling to Windhelm and evade that quest entirely.)

 

Edit: Oh, and btw, the SexLab scenes don't play when wearing that gag. Had to remove it to see (and not just hear) the scenes. I installed just the minimum, I guess that Devious Device enthusiasts don't have that problem, but I'm not into that.

Edited August 13, 2024 by Skjoldberg

[alternateaccounts]

Is there an SLSO patch for this somewhere? Would be a great addition if NPCs had to finish for it to count.

[DonQuiWho]

On 8/12/2024 at 7:49 PM, Skjoldberg said:

Quest "Show of Strength" has a dead end?

 

The "Show of Strength" quest doesn't proceed or end or doesn't do anything after my PC was forced to swear the oath to Dibella under drugs which binds her to not-my-jarl Ulfric Stormcloak. I waited for 1.5 hours real time but nothing is changing, all NPC are "busy", thane Enrensen only has its standard "who are you" dialogue, the cook is doing nothing either, and all doors are locked. My inventar is still empty. Nothing happens. Is this intended? Last comment was that the guests are feasting to celebrate the oath. But even after 1.5 hours real time (not ingame time), still no progress, change or anything.

 

Some background:

My PC, quite freshly arrived in Skyrim (thane of just Whiterun and only half-progressed through the companions, 2 dragons slayn), is "ineliglible" in all holds as all value thresholds are not yet met. She received the letter from that "Thane Enrensen" while never have visited Windhelm nor could be known in any way over there or anywhere else but Whiterun. She followed the invitation out of curiosity and resisted whenever possible except for the knife option due to a speech check failure despite having an already high speech level of 63 (thanks to SL Leveling).

 

How do I come out of the dead end? (Except for loading a save file from before traveling to Windhelm and evade that quest entirely.)

 

Edit: Oh, and btw, the SexLab scenes don't play when wearing that gag. Had to remove it to see (and not just hear) the scenes. I installed just the minimum, I guess that Devious Device enthusiasts don't have that problem, but I'm not into that.

 

@Visio Diaboli

 

FWIW, I tried the 'Show of Strength' quest for the first time today. 

 

Game based on SE 1.5.97 + PW 1.2.3 SE, so that may be contributory to the issues I came up against

 

Now, to be clear at the outset, PW normally runs very VERY nicely, and is a good, fun mod to play, so please rest assured that I am not trying to denigrate your mod itself!

 

But this quest is just plays utterly weird.  PC talked to Enrensen to initiate it and, when entering the quest's main scenario, (maybe before that even) the framerates went down by 2/3.  Everything, speech, responses, actions, responses had HUGE lags, with (weirdly, almost constant) framerates of about 25/27fps.

 

The Sexlab scenes with the jarls failed to play properly.  Conversation, and the sexlab scenes that did try to play, had the PC and other actor completely out of synch

 

I gave up on my second attempt to run through this after Enrensen was supposed to remove the gag and get the player to do something/go someplace, but which never happened 

 

Best of all 😛 was the 2gb Papyrus log, with nearly 33 million lines.  Yep, 33 MILLION!  To be precise, 32983495 lines

 

FWIW, the log split was

 

6:10:55PM start

to line 136505      06:16:54 first mention of Enrensen

to line 32983495  06:55:44PM logged out to desktop

 

There were more stack dumps than I have ever seen, seemingly mainly SOS induced

 

In case it's of any help, I had never seen THIS before >>>>>>>>>>>>

 

1- the console display showed none of the usual Sexlab animation selection entries that you see, where it jiggles about to find an appropriate animation for the players, the kind that you normally see when Sexlab is doing its thing. 

2 - the animations that were being run appeared after something like 'm?SOS' + animation name ------------- (can't remember exactly what the ? mark was and I'm not running it again to find out), almost as if some SOS control feature was in command 

 

Not sure what that might mean, but I hope the info is of help

 

Given that some people have eventually got this to work, even if a bit bumpily at times, I can only guess something maybe didn't like my modlist

 

Anyway, thanks for the mod, and hope this info helps you/others to track down what might be going a bit squiff

 

DQW

 

[DayTri]

On 8/12/2024 at 4:19 PM, Skjoldberg said:

Quest "Show of Strength" has a dead end?

 

The "Show of Strength" quest doesn't proceed or end or doesn't do anything after my PC was forced to swear the oath to Dibella under drugs which binds her to not-my-jarl Ulfric Stormcloak. I waited for 1.5 hours real time but nothing is changing, all NPC are "busy", thane Enrensen only has its standard "who are you" dialogue, the cook is doing nothing either, and all doors are locked. My inventar is still empty. Nothing happens. Is this intended? Last comment was that the guests are feasting to celebrate the oath. But even after 1.5 hours real time (not ingame time), still no progress, change or anything.

 

Some background:

My PC, quite freshly arrived in Skyrim (thane of just Whiterun and only half-progressed through the companions, 2 dragons slayn), is "ineliglible" in all holds as all value thresholds are not yet met. She received the letter from that "Thane Enrensen" while never have visited Windhelm nor could be known in any way over there or anywhere else but Whiterun. She followed the invitation out of curiosity and resisted whenever possible except for the knife option due to a speech check failure despite having an already high speech level of 63 (thanks to SL Leveling).

 

How do I come out of the dead end? (Except for loading a save file from before traveling to Windhelm and evade that quest entirely.)

 

Edit: Oh, and btw, the SexLab scenes don't play when wearing that gag. Had to remove it to see (and not just hear) the scenes. I installed just the minimum, I guess that Devious Device enthusiasts don't have that problem, but I'm not into that.

 

Spoiler

After swearing the oath, I think there is supposed to be a scene with a horse. If you have creature animations disabled it's possibly the cause. It's not intended to be a dead end, you are supposed to end up as the PW in Windhelm.

 

BTW, the optimal path is

 

Spoiler

to resist, but not too much (choose mostly resist but not entirely dialogue options). Get the knife by passing a speech check, and use it on the thane at the correct moment (when everyone is looking at you). All-resist dialogue option always loses. It's intentionally very difficult to "win" because the point of the quest is to get you enslaved as a PW in Windhelm.

 

Another thing I think can happen is if the scene gets stuck. Try turning off any mods like SL Approach which cause dialogue between NPCs, to avoid the scene breaking.

 

Also try not clicking through the dialogue too quickly. It's possible there are some scripts which aren't firing quickly enough if you speed through the dialogue when your player gets the chance to speak in that final scene.

 

 

[sierrra]

I'm getting a black screen when transitioning from Simple Slavery to a PW scene. Sound/compass/menu/console works but screen is black. Any ideas?

[xyzxyz]

How is this mod doing? Haven't seen any news in a while now.

[Skjoldberg]

@DayTri , thank you for the advises. I'll dare to retry the quest this week. The dialogues really take a long time which creeped the hell out of me.

 

 

 

On 8/18/2024 at 4:43 PM, sierrra said:

I'm getting a black screen when transitioning from Simple Slavery to a PW scene. Sound/compass/menu/console works but screen is black. Any ideas?

 

Had the same when being "dragged through the city" to that room for being punished as PW.

Saving and reloading worked for me very well.

Maybe exiting the game before reloading if it doesn't work. Remember to not override an existing save file (in case it doesn't help or something goes wrong, you don't ruin your entire playthrough then).

[Guest]

I identified a problem with my defeat mod not working.  Public Whore DHLP did not resume after completing my service.  I think I will try and reload prior to finishing my quota to see if aggreeing to continue will work.  An older save is fine but the hotkey in the MCM doesn't send the Resume.   100 saves later. Oh, well.   At least I know what to look for now. Wish the DHLP Resume worked.

[Guest]

On 8/19/2024 at 1:09 PM, xyzxyz said:

How is this mod doing? Haven't seen any news in a while now.

I just wanted to share my opinion on this mod.  I love it.  Involuntary sex servitude is just fun.  Things that work for me:  Always use the same dialogue if I am asked to see the Thane.  Even if I have been PW before.  (bugged a few times on me with different dialogue).  I'm ready to reload a save at any time.  Set the chance for a group forming to 50%.  Helps to meet the quota quicker.   I move slightly after each encounter for spacing.  Open the console to allow the game to catch up if it is slow.  (too many people around I think)   I don't remove tats or the collar after I finish.  No reason.  Never do the alternate way to complete PW.  Just finish my quota.  Never get punished.  Unless you have a recent save to fall back on.  Save before entering to see Ulfric special start.  Love it but it has bugged on me.  Save before talking to the Solitude noble.  Solitude start.  Resaver anytime something weird happens.  Don't ask if they want to  use the PW to work toward my quota.  Has stopped registering uses and no money.  If the standard approach stops registering money and events, I will then ask.  Once it registers, go back to the standard approach timer method.  Turn on debug dialogue so I can see when an approach is going to start.  Stop doing anything until I am approached.  If no one, I walk around the NPC's in the area.  One usually will approach then.  I try to get my quota met before leaving the city.  I have tried permanent PW.  Resolves the money issue and the approach fails but it is a pain to redress all the time and I earn more punishment points.  I also hate running to the Thane to drop off money before I can leave the city.  

 

Special starts are fun.  I recently encountered a bug where the DHLP resume was not working.  My defeat stopped working.  Reloaded and go again.  I will check that now in my defeat mod to ensure it registered correctly after I complete my service before proceeding.  This is on my end somewhere.  2k+ mods.

 

Summary:  It generally works flawlessly for me using this method.  Rarely bugs.  You don't have to stay in the city to complete the service but I don't fast travel in my game and will only do local things if I decide to leave.  I just can't not use this mod.  Love the comments I always get from other NPCs.  I can share the mods I added when back at my gaming computer.  I think I have 6 related mods.  *Honesty time:  Every other game I think I will remove it.  I never do.  Just love it that much.  

[xyzxyz]

40 minutes ago, TFor2 said:

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The only broken thing are the special work approaches not working at all.

Edited August 23, 2024 by xyzxyz

[Guest]

24 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

The only broken thing are the special work approaches not working at all.

I'm sorry.  If you mean special starts, it does vary from game to game for me sometimes.  The most reliable used to be the Solitude start.  It was broken last game.  Went to meet the guy after talking to the noble lady and no one showed.  Nothing happened at all.  I restarted and skipped it.  Windhelm start worked last time.  I save before entering the palace and hope it goes through.  Haven't completed the Whiterun one in a while.  I get tagged as PW before I have a chance usually.  We will see this playthrough.  If you are referring to something else, I don't know what you mean.  If it is an alternate way to complete your quota, I never had those work.  Mentally if I can be PW in a few cities, I'm usually fine after that.  I get re-tagged for those cities but it's ok. I actually was made PW in every city on one plathrough but that was an older version of the mod.  Special starts didn't work on that version though.  It's modding.  

[xyzxyz]

21 minutes ago, TFor2 said:

I'm sorry.  If you mean special starts, it does vary from game to game for me sometimes.  The most reliable used to be the Solitude start.  It was broken last game.  Went to meet the guy after talking to the noble lady and no one showed.  Nothing happened at all.  I restarted and skipped it.  Windhelm start worked last time.  I save before entering the palace and hope it goes through.  Haven't completed the Whiterun one in a while.  I get tagged as PW before I have a chance usually.  We will see this playthrough.  If you are referring to something else, I don't know what you mean.  If it is an alternate way to complete your quota, I never had those work.  Mentally if I can be PW in a few cities, I'm usually fine after that.  I get re-tagged for those cities but it's ok. I actually was made PW in every city on one plathrough but that was an older version of the mod.  Special starts didn't work on that version though.  It's modding.  

Special city story starts are working for me. I was thinking of the alternative sex approaches like follower, dog, buy etc.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, xyzxyz said:

Special city story starts are working for me. I was thinking of the alternative sex approaches like follower, dog, buy etc.

Hmm.  They are rare but do work for me.  I avoid the random NPC purchasing me.  I suppose I am concerned what will happen.  I let Serana purchase me once.  Nothing happened though other than completing PW.   She was an active follower though.   Serana approaches all the time for the standard PW approach.  The dog one happens once a playthrough.  I will pay more attention to the other options.  Thank you for the reminder.  

[ThatOtherGuy69]

Is there a way to have the Mod recognize my PC as Dragonborn through like a console command or something. I use an alternative start to already set the PC as dragonborn but the mod only recognizes her as a thane.

Edited August 25, 2024 by RedNick54

[brewmasterhal]

18 hours ago, ThatOtherGuy69 said:

Is there a way to have the Mod recognize my PC as Dragonborn through like a console command or something. I use an alternative start to already set the PC as dragonborn but the mod only recognizes her as a thane.

 

Most mods check for quest completion to determine whether you are "dragonborn"

The specific condition is whether you have visited the Greybeards, or whether you have completed the quest "The Way of the Voice" depending on the mod.

 

Yes, there are commands to complete that quest.

[Sorrow_421]

I have 1.2.4 and the patch for it, but women still approach or get in queue regardless  of the MCM to have only males.  Anyone have the same problem?

[Crota]

I tried doing the "Race to the jarl" quest in solitude where you distract a guy trying to talk to elisif, and you know the rest.

Except it never happens for me. Is there suppose to be a scene that plays out after he talks to her where you are forced into the role?
for me he walks up to elisif, the quest completes and nothing happens.

[SkyAddiction]

40 minutes ago, Crota said:

I tried doing the "Race to the jarl" quest in solitude where you distract a guy trying to talk to elisif, and you know the rest.

Except it never happens for me. Is there suppose to be a scene that plays out after he talks to her where you are forced into the role?
for me he walks up to elisif, the quest completes and nothing happens.

 

Spoiler

The character you gain the quest from is trying to make public whoring legal in Solitude, and thinks you're not just the ideal candidate, but the best foil for her adversary. The character you're stopping is trying to prevent that. If you delay him, he doesn't make it in time to make his argument against establishing the public whore as law, so it becomes law with you as the first victim.

 

The quest completes because it's supposed to - you've likely heard the relevant dialogue and know the why behind the how.

[Crota]

7 hours ago, SkyAddiction said:

 

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The character you gain the quest from is trying to make public whoring legal in Solitude, and thinks you're not just the ideal candidate, but the best foil for her adversary. The character you're stopping is trying to prevent that. If you delay him, he doesn't make it in time to make his argument against establishing the public whore as law, so it becomes law with you as the first victim.

 

The quest completes because it's supposed to - you've likely heard the relevant dialogue and know the why behind the how.

Yeah I understand all that, it just didnt make sense to me that I am just left standing there with nothing happening. No flavor text to tell me to talk to the thane, no new dialogue options. The only hint for me that anything changed was reading the quest log description. i figured it might have been bugged, it just seemed like an odd ending for and interesting quest.

[SkyAddiction]

17 minutes ago, Crota said:

Yeah I understand all that, it just didnt make sense to me that I am just left standing there with nothing happening. No flavor text to tell me to talk to the thane, no new dialogue options. The only hint for me that anything changed was reading the quest log description. i figured it might have been bugged, it just seemed like an odd ending for and interesting quest.

 

Spoiler

Yeah, that's not supposed to happen. You're supposed to be made the public whore, end of quest and story.

 

The only thing I can offer is SE/AE sometimes just... stops working? There's no reason for it, but it just happens. No quests, no random greetings, no nothing. That's the only thing I can think of given your statements. Reloading any previous save fixes it.

 

If you fix it, please let us know. I'm genuinely curious as to the cause. 

[Crota]

13 minutes ago, SkyAddiction said:

 

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Yeah, that's not supposed to happen. You're supposed to be made the public whore, end of quest and story.

 

The only thing I can offer is SE/AE sometimes just... stops working? There's no reason for it, but it just happens. No quests, no random greetings, no nothing. That's the only thing I can think of given your statements. Reloading any previous save fixes it.

 

If you fix it, please let us know. I'm genuinely curious as to the cause. 

could be one of the 13 million mods in the masterstroke modlist... so yeah I doubt I will ever figure it out. Owh well, thanks anyways.

[thiccthighs03]

On 9/1/2024 at 5:58 AM, Crota said:

could be one of the 13 million mods in the masterstroke modlist... so yeah I doubt I will ever figure it out. Owh well, thanks anyways.

I don't have this issue and I use MS 

[EasterBunnih]