DieHans Posted November 30, 2025 Posted November 30, 2025 8 hours ago, Fraying9981 said: Ive been using latest dom + p+. If what is meant here is the wheel doesnt work on some slaves, yeah i do have that but a save reload fixes that well i think i am one version behind so i can't speak for the latest. but whats broken when i last tested was: sex scene not properly ending for npc
DieHans Posted November 30, 2025 Posted November 30, 2025 4 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: The idea is to have both working with a toggle to choose which one is the first choice for player scenes and which one for NPC only scenes. and the feature list, will sexlab always be "more powerful" or will they be the same at the end? Never used ostim
Fraying9981 Posted November 30, 2025 Posted November 30, 2025 22 minutes ago, DieHans said: well i think i am one version behind so i can't speak for the latest. but whats broken when i last tested was: sex scene not properly ending for npc ok. i can confirm I don't have that.
jaglord Posted November 30, 2025 Posted November 30, 2025 looking through my settings.json I don't see any line that would handle the NPC training thresholds, further leading me to believe that this MCM setting is bugged. would simply adding the lines of text for the thresholds to my settings.json work as a bandaid fix?
TrollAutokill Posted November 30, 2025 Author Posted November 30, 2025 7 hours ago, DieHans said: and the feature list, will sexlab always be "more powerful" or will they be the same at the end? Never used ostim They are different mods with different features. Sexlab might always be the mod of choice for what we are doing here on LL.
TrollAutokill Posted November 30, 2025 Author Posted November 30, 2025 42 minutes ago, jaglord said: looking through my settings.json I don't see any line that would handle the NPC training thresholds, further leading me to believe that this MCM setting is bugged. would simply adding the lines of text for the thresholds to my settings.json work as a bandaid fix? The settings file doesn't have an entry for all settings. It doesn't mean the setting is not working, just that it's not saved.
Coom Nation Posted November 30, 2025 Posted November 30, 2025 I installed latest DOM version and now I'm experiencing ctds each time that I initiate sexlab scenes with slaves through dialogue or wheel. If I use different mods to initiate them everything works fine. I tried it on slaves from Slaver Alternate Start mod. So I don't know which mod causes this bug.
深淵の神 Posted November 30, 2025 Posted November 30, 2025 2 hours ago, Coom Nation said: I installed latest DOM version and now I'm experiencing ctds each time that I initiate sexlab scenes with slaves through dialogue or wheel. If I use different mods to initiate them everything works fine. I tried it on slaves from Slaver Alternate Start mod. So I don't know which mod causes this bug. Any Crash Log??? Without more information, can't help you at all.
jaglord Posted December 1, 2025 Posted December 1, 2025 (edited) 14 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: The settings file doesn't have an entry for all settings. It doesn't mean the setting is not working, just that it's not saved. I see, there goes my hope for a quick fix. Is there a way to easily raise the submission of NPCs (not slaves), even via cheats? i tried both a potion of mind breaking or w/e as well as the ultimate subjugation spell, unless I messed something up neither worked on non slave NPCs. what I've been doing is the read/write persona spells and manually editing the submission values, but this is a bit clunky. I've made several posts about this small settings bug because I am quite fond of the willing slave feature, sorry to keep harping on about it. 6 hours ago, Coom Nation said: I installed latest DOM version and now I'm experiencing ctds each time that I initiate sexlab scenes with slaves through dialogue or wheel. If I use different mods to initiate them everything works fine. I tried it on slaves from Slaver Alternate Start mod. So I don't know which mod causes this bug. I have actually also noticed this, I wasn't on .10 for that long but I don't believe I had it on that version, but in .11 I am experiencing this. It's not a problem with generic SL scenes because initiating them without DOM works just fine, but DOM wheel sex scenes are CTDing. I am more worried about downgrading bricking my save than upgrading, but I might have to downgrade back a version or two if this persists. Edited December 1, 2025 by jaglord 1
Fraying9981 Posted December 1, 2025 Posted December 1, 2025 is there a way to prevent trainers from getting naked all the time?
TrollAutokill Posted December 1, 2025 Author Posted December 1, 2025 (edited) 24 minutes ago, jaglord said: I have actually also noticed this, I wasn't on .10 for that long but I don't believe I had it on that version, but in .11 I am experiencing this. It's not a problem with generic SL scenes because initiating them without DOM works just fine, but DOM wheel sex scenes are CTDing. I am more worried about downgrading bricking my save than upgrading, but I might have to downgrade back a version or two if this persists. 6 hours ago, Coom Nation said: I installed latest DOM version and now I'm experiencing ctds each time that I initiate sexlab scenes with slaves through dialogue or wheel. If I use different mods to initiate them everything works fine. I tried it on slaves from Slaver Alternate Start mod. So I don't know which mod causes this bug. .11 had a big change in the SL interface. Let's try to find and correct the problem. Are you using SL or SLP+? Are you starting scenes with 2, 3 or 4 actors? Are you starting scenes with the player or NPCs or just DOM actors (slaves/slavers)? Is the problem with new scenes or scenes started before the update? Could you produce a papyrus log of the incident with verbose debug and animation debug on? Edited December 1, 2025 by TrollAutokill
Coom Nation Posted December 1, 2025 Posted December 1, 2025 13 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: Are you using SL or SLP+? I'm using Sexlab AE 1.66b 13 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: Are you starting scenes with 2, 3 or 4 actors? Are you starting scenes with the player or NPCs or just DOM actors (slaves/slavers)? I was starting a scene between player character and DOM slave, so 2 actors involved 13 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: Is the problem with new scenes or scenes started before the update? I was testing it on the new game with DOM 7.11 13 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: Could you produce a papyrus log of the incident with verbose debug and animation debug on? Sorry, don't know how to do that
n55421 Posted December 1, 2025 Posted December 1, 2025 I'm getting something similar after upgrading to 7.11. E.g. when using the wheel to ask a follower (F) to sleep with a slave (F) - the actors undress but the scene fails to start. There are some errors in the log: Spoiler [12/01/2025 - 05:32:59PM] DOM_Actor:Animation: Mare: Anim_Sexlab actor=[E_ClothesStart < (3B03D419)>] tag= psh=TRUE Idle=TRUE Move=TRUE Animate=TRUE Local=TRUE Sexlab=TRUE [12/01/2025 - 05:32:59PM] warning: Function dom_sexlab.StartSexlab(Actor[] akActors,dom_actor[] akDOMActors,string tied_pose,string tags,bool is_punishment,string reason_name,sslBaseAnimation[] anims,ObjectReference CenterOn,bool AllowBed,string Hook) received NONE to non-object argument! Received types (Actor,dom_actor,string,string,bool,string,none,ObjectReference,bool,string) instead! stack: [alias slave003 on quest DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_actor.Anim_SexlabWithNPC() - "DOM_Actor.psc" Line 6991 [alias slave003 on quest DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_actor.StartSexWithNPC() - "DOM_Actor.psc" Line 12024 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoSexWith() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 6229 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoNPCSlaveMenu() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 3865 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoTrainingMenu() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 1713 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.OnKeyDown() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 610 [12/01/2025 - 05:33:00PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to sslBaseAnimation[] stack: [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_sexlab.StartSexlab() - "DOM_Sexlab.psc" Line 1336 [alias slave003 on quest DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_actor.Anim_SexlabWithNPC() - "DOM_Actor.psc" Line 6991 [alias slave003 on quest DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_actor.StartSexWithNPC() - "DOM_Actor.psc" Line 12024 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoSexWith() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 6229 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoNPCSlaveMenu() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 3865 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoTrainingMenu() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 1713 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.OnKeyDown() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 610 [12/01/2025 - 05:33:00PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - Entering Making State [12/01/2025 - 05:33:00PM] SEXLAB - NOTICE: ValidateActor(Mare) -- TRUE -- HIT [12/01/2025 - 05:33:01PM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Mare] - LockActor for Mare [12/01/2025 - 05:33:01PM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Mare] - MarkerRef[[ObjectReference < (FF00115C)>]] [12/01/2025 - 05:33:01PM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Mare] SetActor([Actor < (4C000B86)>]) - [sslActorAlias <alias ActorAlias004 on quest SexLabThread00 (0E061EEF)>] [12/01/2025 - 05:33:01PM] SEXLAB - NOTICE: ValidateActor(Eris) -- TRUE -- HIT [12/01/2025 - 05:33:01PM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Eris] - LockActor for Eris [12/01/2025 - 05:33:01PM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Eris] - MarkerRef[[ObjectReference < (FF001111)>]] [12/01/2025 - 05:33:01PM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Eris] SetActor([E_ClothesStart < (3B03D419)>]) - [sslActorAlias <alias ActorAlias003 on quest SexLabThread00 (0E061EEF)>] [12/01/2025 - 05:33:01PM] SEXLAB - SLAS GetByTags(ActorCount=2, Tags=Aggressive,Lesbian, TagsSuppressed=, RequireAll=TRUE) [12/01/2025 - 05:33:01PM] SEXLAB - SLAS GetByTags Found:1 and Return:1 Start:0 in 0.015999 seconds [12/01/2025 - 05:33:01PM] ERROR: Mismatched types assigning to variable named "::temp364" stack: [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_sexlab.StartSexlab() - "DOM_Sexlab.psc" Line 1468 [alias slave003 on quest DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_actor.Anim_SexlabWithNPC() - "DOM_Actor.psc" Line 6991 [alias slave003 on quest DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_actor.StartSexWithNPC() - "DOM_Actor.psc" Line 12024 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoSexWith() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 6229 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoNPCSlaveMenu() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 3865 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoTrainingMenu() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 1713 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.OnKeyDown() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 610 [12/01/2025 - 05:33:01PM] ERROR: Cannot get the length of of a non-array variable stack: [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_sexlab.StartSexlab() - "DOM_Sexlab.psc" Line 1468 [alias slave003 on quest DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_actor.Anim_SexlabWithNPC() - "DOM_Actor.psc" Line 6991 [alias slave003 on quest DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_actor.StartSexWithNPC() - "DOM_Actor.psc" Line 12024 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoSexWith() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 6229 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoNPCSlaveMenu() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 3865 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoTrainingMenu() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 1713 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.OnKeyDown() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 610 [...] [12/01/2025 - 05:33:05PM] warning: Function sslthreadmodel.SetAnimations(sslBaseAnimation[] AnimationList) received NONE to non-object argument! Received types (none) instead! stack: [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_sexlab.StartSexlab() - "DOM_Sexlab.psc" Line 1486 [alias slave003 on quest DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_actor.Anim_SexlabWithNPC() - "DOM_Actor.psc" Line 6991 [alias slave003 on quest DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_actor.StartSexWithNPC() - "DOM_Actor.psc" Line 12024 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoSexWith() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 6229 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoNPCSlaveMenu() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 3865 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoTrainingMenu() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 1713 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.OnKeyDown() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 610 [12/01/2025 - 05:33:05PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook - AnimationStarting [12/01/2025 - 05:33:05PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS StartThread() BEFORE primary animations:0.015999 [12/01/2025 - 05:33:05PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS StartThread BEGIN - CustomAnimations:0, LeadAnimations=0, PrimaryAnimations=0 [12/01/2025 - 05:33:05PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS StartThread Convert 0 Primary + 0 Lead in 0.047997 seconds [12/01/2025 - 05:33:05PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS StartThread after First filter CustomAnimations:0, LeadAnimations=0, PrimaryAnimations=0 [12/01/2025 - 05:33:05PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS StartThread start Locate Center with CenterRef:None [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS StartThread first CenterRef:None [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS StartThread CenterOnBed [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Mare] - LockActor for Mare [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Mare] - MarkerRef[[ObjectReference < (FF00115C)>]] [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - CenterRef == VictimRef: [Actor < (4C000B86)>] [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS StartThread LAST CenterRef CenterRef:[Actor < (4C000B86)>] [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS StartThread() BEFORE Filter animations:0.479996 [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS FilterAnimations BEGIN - LeadAnimations=0, PrimaryAnimations=0 [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - SLAS GetByDefaultTags(Males=0, Females=2, IsAggressive=TRUE, UsingBed=False, RestrictAggressive=TRUE, Tags=, TagsSuppressed=, RequireAll=TRUE) [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - SLAS GetByDefaultTags Found:2 and Return:2 Start:0 in 0.015999 seconds [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS Search for animations ussing GetByDefaultTags return:2 [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS Filter_3 for tags:["Futa", "BedOnly"] Selected_Filter:[0, 532, 545, 546, 547, 548, 549, 550, 551, 552, 553, 555, 578, 60] [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS Filter_3 out '2' primary animations with tags: ["Futa", "BedOnly"] [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] Info: SEXLAB - FATAL - Thread[0] - SLAS Empty primary animations after filters stack: <unknown self>.Debug.TraceStack() - "<native>" Line ? [SexLabThread00 (0E061EEF)].sslthreadcontroller.Fatal() - "sslThreadModel.psc" Line 2596 [SexLabThread00 (0E061EEF)].sslthreadcontroller.FilterAnimations() - "sslThreadModel.psc" Line 1725 [SexLabThread00 (0E061EEF)].sslthreadcontroller.StartThread() - "sslThreadModel.psc" Line ? [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_sexlab.StartSexlab() - "DOM_Sexlab.psc" Line 1511 [alias slave003 on quest DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_actor.Anim_SexlabWithNPC() - "DOM_Actor.psc" Line 6991 [alias slave003 on quest DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_actor.StartSexWithNPC() - "DOM_Actor.psc" Line 12024 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoSexWith() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 6229 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoNPCSlaveMenu() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 3865 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoTrainingMenu() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 1713 <truncated stack> [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Mare] ClearAlias([Actor < (4C000B86)>] / [sslActorAlias <alias ActorAlias004 on quest SexLabThread00 (0E061EEF)>]) - Actor present during alias clear! This is usually harmless as the alias and actor will correct itself, but is usually a sign that a thread did not close cleanly. [12/01/2025 - 05:33:07PM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Eris] ClearAlias([E_ClothesStart < (3B03D419)>] / [sslActorAlias <alias ActorAlias003 on quest SexLabThread00 (0E061EEF)>]) - Actor present during alias clear! This is usually harmless as the alias and actor will correct itself, but is usually a sign that a thread did not close cleanly. I'm using SexLab 1.66b with SLAS (SexLab Anim Searcher) 1.0.2, but I'm also testing new mods like Binding, DDNG, Curse of Life - so it's not a very clean save right now. 1
a_random_user Posted December 1, 2025 Posted December 1, 2025 16 hours ago, jaglord said: Is there a way to easily raise the submission of NPCs (not slaves), even via cheats? If they aren't enslaved yet, you could try to use console commands to change the factions directly. Submission on NPCs is stored in the faction DOMTrainSubmission, the faction's rank is the submission score. Select them with the console, and use: AddToFaction DOMTrainSubmission 100 You can use different values or factions to try this out. This will not work on slaves, the scripts will turn it back, but it can work on normal NPCs. 1 hour ago, Coom Nation said: Sorry, don't know how to do that Traison just wrote a good blog on how to do this. 2
TrollAutokill Posted December 1, 2025 Author Posted December 1, 2025 5 hours ago, n55421 said: I'm getting something similar after upgrading to 7.11. E.g. when using the wheel to ask a follower (F) to sleep with a slave (F) - the actors undress but the scene fails to start. There are some errors in the log: Reveal hidden contents [12/01/2025 - 05:32:59PM] DOM_Actor:Animation: Mare: Anim_Sexlab actor=[E_ClothesStart < (3B03D419)>] tag= psh=TRUE Idle=TRUE Move=TRUE Animate=TRUE Local=TRUE Sexlab=TRUE [12/01/2025 - 05:32:59PM] warning: Function dom_sexlab.StartSexlab(Actor[] akActors,dom_actor[] akDOMActors,string tied_pose,string tags,bool is_punishment,string reason_name,sslBaseAnimation[] anims,ObjectReference CenterOn,bool AllowBed,string Hook) received NONE to non-object argument! Received types (Actor,dom_actor,string,string,bool,string,none,ObjectReference,bool,string) instead! stack: [alias slave003 on quest DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_actor.Anim_SexlabWithNPC() - "DOM_Actor.psc" Line 6991 [alias slave003 on quest DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_actor.StartSexWithNPC() - "DOM_Actor.psc" Line 12024 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoSexWith() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 6229 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoNPCSlaveMenu() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 3865 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoTrainingMenu() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 1713 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.OnKeyDown() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 610 [12/01/2025 - 05:33:00PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to sslBaseAnimation[] stack: [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_sexlab.StartSexlab() - "DOM_Sexlab.psc" Line 1336 [alias slave003 on quest DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_actor.Anim_SexlabWithNPC() - "DOM_Actor.psc" Line 6991 [alias slave003 on quest DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_actor.StartSexWithNPC() - "DOM_Actor.psc" Line 12024 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoSexWith() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 6229 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoNPCSlaveMenu() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 3865 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoTrainingMenu() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 1713 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.OnKeyDown() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 610 [12/01/2025 - 05:33:00PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - Entering Making State [12/01/2025 - 05:33:00PM] SEXLAB - NOTICE: ValidateActor(Mare) -- TRUE -- HIT [12/01/2025 - 05:33:01PM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Mare] - LockActor for Mare [12/01/2025 - 05:33:01PM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Mare] - MarkerRef[[ObjectReference < (FF00115C)>]] [12/01/2025 - 05:33:01PM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Mare] SetActor([Actor < (4C000B86)>]) - [sslActorAlias <alias ActorAlias004 on quest SexLabThread00 (0E061EEF)>] [12/01/2025 - 05:33:01PM] SEXLAB - NOTICE: ValidateActor(Eris) -- TRUE -- HIT [12/01/2025 - 05:33:01PM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Eris] - LockActor for Eris [12/01/2025 - 05:33:01PM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Eris] - MarkerRef[[ObjectReference < (FF001111)>]] [12/01/2025 - 05:33:01PM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Eris] SetActor([E_ClothesStart < (3B03D419)>]) - [sslActorAlias <alias ActorAlias003 on quest SexLabThread00 (0E061EEF)>] [12/01/2025 - 05:33:01PM] SEXLAB - SLAS GetByTags(ActorCount=2, Tags=Aggressive,Lesbian, TagsSuppressed=, RequireAll=TRUE) [12/01/2025 - 05:33:01PM] SEXLAB - SLAS GetByTags Found:1 and Return:1 Start:0 in 0.015999 seconds [12/01/2025 - 05:33:01PM] ERROR: Mismatched types assigning to variable named "::temp364" stack: [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_sexlab.StartSexlab() - "DOM_Sexlab.psc" Line 1468 [alias slave003 on quest DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_actor.Anim_SexlabWithNPC() - "DOM_Actor.psc" Line 6991 [alias slave003 on quest DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_actor.StartSexWithNPC() - "DOM_Actor.psc" Line 12024 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoSexWith() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 6229 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoNPCSlaveMenu() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 3865 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoTrainingMenu() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 1713 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.OnKeyDown() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 610 [12/01/2025 - 05:33:01PM] ERROR: Cannot get the length of of a non-array variable stack: [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_sexlab.StartSexlab() - "DOM_Sexlab.psc" Line 1468 [alias slave003 on quest DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_actor.Anim_SexlabWithNPC() - "DOM_Actor.psc" Line 6991 [alias slave003 on quest DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_actor.StartSexWithNPC() - "DOM_Actor.psc" Line 12024 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoSexWith() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 6229 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoNPCSlaveMenu() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 3865 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoTrainingMenu() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 1713 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.OnKeyDown() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 610 [...] [12/01/2025 - 05:33:05PM] warning: Function sslthreadmodel.SetAnimations(sslBaseAnimation[] AnimationList) received NONE to non-object argument! Received types (none) instead! stack: [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_sexlab.StartSexlab() - "DOM_Sexlab.psc" Line 1486 [alias slave003 on quest DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_actor.Anim_SexlabWithNPC() - "DOM_Actor.psc" Line 6991 [alias slave003 on quest DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_actor.StartSexWithNPC() - "DOM_Actor.psc" Line 12024 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoSexWith() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 6229 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoNPCSlaveMenu() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 3865 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoTrainingMenu() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 1713 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.OnKeyDown() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 610 [12/01/2025 - 05:33:05PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook - AnimationStarting [12/01/2025 - 05:33:05PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS StartThread() BEFORE primary animations:0.015999 [12/01/2025 - 05:33:05PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS StartThread BEGIN - CustomAnimations:0, LeadAnimations=0, PrimaryAnimations=0 [12/01/2025 - 05:33:05PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS StartThread Convert 0 Primary + 0 Lead in 0.047997 seconds [12/01/2025 - 05:33:05PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS StartThread after First filter CustomAnimations:0, LeadAnimations=0, PrimaryAnimations=0 [12/01/2025 - 05:33:05PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS StartThread start Locate Center with CenterRef:None [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS StartThread first CenterRef:None [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS StartThread CenterOnBed [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Mare] - LockActor for Mare [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Mare] - MarkerRef[[ObjectReference < (FF00115C)>]] [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - CenterRef == VictimRef: [Actor < (4C000B86)>] [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS StartThread LAST CenterRef CenterRef:[Actor < (4C000B86)>] [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS StartThread() BEFORE Filter animations:0.479996 [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS FilterAnimations BEGIN - LeadAnimations=0, PrimaryAnimations=0 [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - SLAS GetByDefaultTags(Males=0, Females=2, IsAggressive=TRUE, UsingBed=False, RestrictAggressive=TRUE, Tags=, TagsSuppressed=, RequireAll=TRUE) [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - SLAS GetByDefaultTags Found:2 and Return:2 Start:0 in 0.015999 seconds [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS Search for animations ussing GetByDefaultTags return:2 [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS Filter_3 for tags:["Futa", "BedOnly"] Selected_Filter:[0, 532, 545, 546, 547, 548, 549, 550, 551, 552, 553, 555, 578, 60] [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - SLAS Filter_3 out '2' primary animations with tags: ["Futa", "BedOnly"] [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] Info: SEXLAB - FATAL - Thread[0] - SLAS Empty primary animations after filters stack: <unknown self>.Debug.TraceStack() - "<native>" Line ? [SexLabThread00 (0E061EEF)].sslthreadcontroller.Fatal() - "sslThreadModel.psc" Line 2596 [SexLabThread00 (0E061EEF)].sslthreadcontroller.FilterAnimations() - "sslThreadModel.psc" Line 1725 [SexLabThread00 (0E061EEF)].sslthreadcontroller.StartThread() - "sslThreadModel.psc" Line ? [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_sexlab.StartSexlab() - "DOM_Sexlab.psc" Line 1511 [alias slave003 on quest DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_actor.Anim_SexlabWithNPC() - "DOM_Actor.psc" Line 6991 [alias slave003 on quest DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_actor.StartSexWithNPC() - "DOM_Actor.psc" Line 12024 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoSexWith() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 6229 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoNPCSlaveMenu() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 3865 [DOM02Topic (150ED87C)].dom_keys.DOMDoTrainingMenu() - "DOM_Keys.psc" Line 1713 <truncated stack> [12/01/2025 - 05:33:06PM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Mare] ClearAlias([Actor < (4C000B86)>] / [sslActorAlias <alias ActorAlias004 on quest SexLabThread00 (0E061EEF)>]) - Actor present during alias clear! This is usually harmless as the alias and actor will correct itself, but is usually a sign that a thread did not close cleanly. [12/01/2025 - 05:33:07PM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Eris] ClearAlias([E_ClothesStart < (3B03D419)>] / [sslActorAlias <alias ActorAlias003 on quest SexLabThread00 (0E061EEF)>]) - Actor present during alias clear! This is usually harmless as the alias and actor will correct itself, but is usually a sign that a thread did not close cleanly. I'm using SexLab 1.66b with SLAS (SexLab Anim Searcher) 1.0.2, but I'm also testing new mods like Binding, DDNG, Curse of Life - so it's not a very clean save right now. It seems I might have included the wrong scripts. Let me try and I'll come back with a fix asap. 1
Fraying9981 Posted December 2, 2025 Posted December 2, 2025 2 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: It seems I might have included the wrong scripts. Let me try and I'll come back with a fix asap. i think i had a similar bug on 7.11: i tell the slave to get ready for sex and ask someone to use them -> no scene. same result if i say report to your sex partner. btw, how are the conditions determined for npcs to accept using slaves (there is a notification that pops up and sometimes says too honest) 1
Sirpeter894 Posted December 2, 2025 Posted December 2, 2025 There may be another issue related to 7.11 and HSH It looks like if you transfer a slave to a house cell, then try using any of the dialogue options to kiss them or body inspection nothing works If you transfer the slave back to DOM the same dialogue options no longer work unless the slave is recaptured 1
McLovin3 Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 (edited) So during my testing of various mods and having that DoM wheel sex scenes doing the wrong kind of scenes. What was quite funny is a decent Spanking played scene was chosen. So even though I didn't get the one I was trying to find (most likely it was from a fomod animation pack and forgot to install the right one) It is a decent substitute, plus its in several stages Spoiler I have been getting a few crashes when triggering player on slave sex via wheel but it is rare. But I think it might actually be related to SynthEBD. I'm going to just keep it in mind and wait until I get that more stable before posting logs Edited December 3, 2025 by McLovin3 1
pleasetryme Posted December 4, 2025 Posted December 4, 2025 is it possible to see what animations are tied to what will be fired via dialogue etc, so we can look into dom and it chooses the ones we want to fire for the correct wording and position, also i wish there was an option to have like a spell you can cast on any that have devious plugs in them to get them into a orgasm frenzy
pleasetryme Posted December 4, 2025 Posted December 4, 2025 is there an option to only use ostim standalone and i keep getting zap missionary 01 or something all the time cant stop it choosing this
TrollAutokill Posted December 4, 2025 Author Posted December 4, 2025 2 hours ago, pleasetryme said: is it possible to see what animations are tied to what will be fired via dialogue etc, so we can look into dom and it chooses the ones we want to fire for the correct wording and position, also i wish there was an option to have like a spell you can cast on any that have devious plugs in them to get them into a orgasm frenzy 1 hour ago, pleasetryme said: is there an option to only use ostim standalone and i keep getting zap missionary 01 or something all the time cant stop it choosing this Sex scenes animations are handled by Sexlab or Ostim. In the DOM MCM Animation tab you should be able to choose between who goes first Sexlab or Ostim. It's still not fully operational but next update 7.11.1 will be better at choosing between the two. 1
tonitrulupus Posted December 4, 2025 Posted December 4, 2025 @TrollAutokill Breadpig is a relatively new animator that is focusing on like ZAZ DD animation, may wish to keep an eye on his mod. that work relatively good and they are doing some good work. https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/41639-bpanimation-for-se-cbbe/ 1
NicholasJMoore Posted December 4, 2025 Posted December 4, 2025 (edited) Would disabling the default sexlab animations stop the male forced masturbation animation from starting correctly? Or is there a specific tag it's looking for that might be missing on the other male masturbation animations I have enabled? Edited December 4, 2025 by NicholasJMoore
Zoltar Posted December 4, 2025 Posted December 4, 2025 So when I generate animations with Nemesis, everything works fine (I mean DOM stuff like poses, dancing, masturbation, sex, everything), when I generate animations with Pandora nothing works. I mean other stuff like combat animations or Ostim work fine, but Sexlab stuff wont work. No idea whats the problem, but I'll simply switch back to Nemesis I guess
DonQuiWho Posted December 4, 2025 Posted December 4, 2025 @TrollAutokill Just a 'Heads Up' for much further down the road, and for the bottom of your 'Maybe To Do' List. 😂😂😂 Also assumes that you will be looking to incorporate Musje's ITF into DOM Basically this is a cut and paste of relevant points in a note I added to Pamatronic's Discord about a possible conflict between his (excellent) Deadly Furnitures mod's newly added 'Barstool' and the much older ITF, and how it functions. Should be self explanatory - I've scored out what's relevant only to PAMA. This is one to 'Take or Leave' as you wish. But the main point is the ability of ITF to 'grab' NPCs engaged on other mods' activities, albeit curently I think you can avoid the problem if you LIMIT what ITF functionality NPCs can engage in. But if you do update DOM, you might want to see if ITF can completely avoid this type of NPC hijack, as it probably may extend in practice to NPCs from other mods, beyond those that Pama's mods might think they temporarily 'own' DQW ----------------- Using the Barstool from Furnitures 3.4.3, I found that when I set this up in Whiterun Square, I would get some weird behaviour, with the chosen victim periodically standing up on the stool, and also when the mod had a suitable assailant selected, they (the assailant) would perform for a while, and then run off to attend to 'other' NPCs. If they got there before the action restarted, they would get involved with the 'other' NPC, If they didn't they would just dry hump into thin air, until they 'restarted' and went off to the 'other' NPC, and then, eventually, return to victimising the NPC on the Barstool. Whatever they did, the finalisation of their copulation did NOT result in a Sexlab end event, ie there was no last stage 'cum', evidenced by lack of visual ejaculation (I have a mod that ensures that male NPC's are not cheated of due satisfaction for their efforts, and the female counterpart did not get any full filling even either, as shown by the absence of a 'Fill her Up' event - so, sadly, no getting female NPCs fat on that barstool) And, however I finished the assailant's involvement, they flat out refuse to redress. Seeing Nazeem wander around with a bargepole sticking out in front of him would turn anyone's stomach So What? Well, firstly, the lack of Sexlab end events is a pity but, Hey!, if that's not Pama's thing, so be it. His mod, his work, his rules. But still a bit of a pity .... running off Secondly, though, and the main point is that other mods can interfere with the chosen 'assailant's actions. In this case, I'm pretty sure it was Musje's ITF (I???? Torture Framework) mod. More Informative Console shows Pama's assailant as having a package from (his Furnitures) mod when dealing with the Barstool victim. Once he has run off to another NPC, the current package is one from the ITF mod, sending the assailant off to chase any local NPC in furniture/other assets from ZAZ 8+ SE. So he has conflicted loyalties. There does seem to be a fix in that you can turn off the 'Any NPC can torture another in the ZAZ furniture' in the ITF mod So why bother with all this speil? 1 - In case anyone else comes across it, anyone reading this, & Pama, now knows of one possible cause 2 - Hopefully, just in case there might be some appreciation of the effort involved in regurgitating all this guff 2a - Nazeem and others really would like to have their clothes back at the end of screwing the maiden's pooch 2b - Hopefully, at some point in the not too distant future , at threescore years and 10+ time and mortality weigh in upon one - maybe Pama might be able to see his way to adding a proper Sexlab end to the event? No one really wants to see the continued injustice of both the giver firing blanks and the recipient feeling distinctly unfulfilled, do they? (EDIT: I'll mention this to TAK to see if there is any way to avoid this 'grab any NPC' event when he gets round to updating the ITF part of Musje's mods, as he integrates them into DOM/Diary of Mine) ------------------------- 1
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