TrollAutokill Posted May 14, 2021 Author Posted May 14, 2021 17 hours ago, Kalysto said: Here again to say that this mod is the best thing that happened to skyrim. Killing slave's friends is quite something... I just can't stop. Version 1.5.1 is for you. Expect their friends to be very angry if you kill them. On the other hand, if you free them they will trust you more. A bit of roleplay is needed from the player side as you could just recapture a freed slave over and over to get the bonus.
TrollAutokill Posted May 14, 2021 Author Posted May 14, 2021 On 5/13/2021 at 12:18 AM, pinky6225 said: Noticed that slaves can be friends with dead slaves, i enslaved two vampires and they were friends and then killed one as i decided i didnt want her anymore but she still shows up as a friend to the remaining slave Fixed in 1.5.1. But if one of your slave dies their friend will be very angry and scared.
TrollAutokill Posted May 14, 2021 Author Posted May 14, 2021 On 5/12/2021 at 7:38 PM, InsanityFactor said: Ok, sounds good. Does touch yourself give more training based on how long they do it or just a flat increase every time you tell them to do it? Got it, I wasn't really tying them up at all because I was using devious devices instead. But that makes sense now, I'll try it out. In 1.5.1 asking slaves to touch self has a chance of making them aroused. You will know they are because they will blush. The sex training is boosted for the time of the arousal. So for a fresh slave the recipe is shame them and force them to masturbate.
pinky6225 Posted May 14, 2021 Posted May 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said: Fixed in 1.5.1. But if one of your slave dies their friend will be very angry and scared. Will give it a try, how does selling slaves effect it? either from PAH fellglow (think they get removed) or AYGAS (persist in the skyrim world) 1
TrollAutokill Posted May 14, 2021 Author Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, pinky6225 said: Will give it a try, how does selling slaves effect it? either from PAH fellglow (think they get removed) or AYGAS (persist in the skyrim world) For the moment selling slaves does nothing but clearing friends. Afterall what do they expect from a slave life? I had problems downloading the correct file as LL appeared to be down randomly. Make sure your file is from just a few minutes before this message, or re-download it.
InsanityFactor Posted May 14, 2021 Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, TrollAutokill said: In 1.5.1 asking slaves to touch self has a chance of making them aroused. You will know they are because they will blush. The sex training is boosted for the time of the arousal. So for a fresh slave the recipe is shame them and force them to masturbate. Oooooo, that sounds promising, I'll try it out soon. EDIT: Just tried it really quick, looks good! Sex training went up by about 3 if they were blushing. Maybe tying this mod in with SLAroused could open some new possibilities. I know that's probably a huge pain in the ass to try and do but just a suggestion if you think its worth the time. If not, this self-isolated form of arousal seems like it'll work great anyway. 1
TrollAutokill Posted May 14, 2021 Author Posted May 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, InsanityFactor said: Oooooo, that sounds promising, I'll try it out soon. And rerun FNIS cause the animations are fixed.
InsanityFactor Posted May 14, 2021 Posted May 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said: And rerun FNIS cause the animations are fixed. Yes I noticed that! They work great now!
Kalysto Posted May 14, 2021 Posted May 14, 2021 HNNNNG can't wait to leave work... Edit: Is this difficult to implement? - Causing severe pain over a friend, causes the friend to ask to damage them instead. Which in turn causes them some kind of pleasure (maybe broken++?) and to the original slave humiliation. - Anger and sad and high humiliation causes suicide. - Killing a friend causes them to go hostile. - Friend is harder to happen (because my slaves are all friends with everyone they just met) - You can ask them to chose which one will die, and then you or them can kill the chosen one. This thing brings the worst in me 1
TrollAutokill Posted May 14, 2021 Author Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Kalysto said: HNNNNG can't wait to leave work... Edit: Is this difficult to implement? -causing severe pain over a friend, causes the friend to ask to damage them instead. Which in turn causes them some kind of pleasure (maybe broken++?) and to the original slave humiliation. I will think about it. The friendship part still has a long way to go before that can happen though. Quote - Anger and sad and high humiliation causes suicide. This would be unrealistic so no. Most suicides are caused because life is too complex for the brain to find a solution. The sub/Dom relationship is all the opposite. Very simple and that's why both side can enjoy it so easily. Quote - Killing a friend cau This was in page long ago, but it was removed because it was causing too much bugs. So I am sorry not for now. Quote ses them to go hostile. - Friend is harder to happen (because my slaves are all friends with everyone they just met) I will try to up the threshold. I agree it is a bit too low right now. Quote - You can ask them to chose which one will die, and then you or them can kill the chosen one. No, that's for another mod, I am afraid. Quote This thing brings the worst in me That's the spirit. ?
kenobiwanowitsch Posted May 14, 2021 Posted May 14, 2021 You asked for animation ideas so here's one frome me: Add a submission animation or one or two where the slave has to demonstrate submission in the gorean style(kneeling down wrists stretched out in front and crossed as if for binding) or by kneeling down, putting the face to the ground and stretching the arms out in front 2
InsanityFactor Posted May 14, 2021 Posted May 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, kenobiwanowitsch said: You asked for animation ideas so here's one frome me: Add a submission animation or one or two where the slave has to demonstrate submission in the gorean style(kneeling down wrists stretched out in front and crossed as if for binding) or by kneeling down, putting the face to the ground and stretching the arms out in front Oooo I like this idea too. Maybe add that to the "come here, slave" posing dialogues. Something like "submit to me" and they enter a pose state like that.
lostlegends Posted May 15, 2021 Posted May 15, 2021 Upgraded from 1.4.8 to 1.4.1 and persona spells are broken for me(dont change stats and raise says it lowers). I wanted to test what this actualy means 'HSH trainer and task master traits are taken into account'. I get what you are doing, but not how. Which stats are now best for trainers and taskmasters? and in what context are they 'taken into account'. For example: lets say I have 3 trainers and the stat is mean/kind. Trainer1(m/k)=0 : Trainer2(m/k)=50 : Trainer3(m/k)=100 Before your changes I asume they would all train at the same speed and now 'Trainer1' would be better than the others. This is better but it will have a big impact on current games, so we need to understand what it means. In this context is 'Trainer1' going to get better at training than she was, 'Trainer2' be the same, and 'Trainer3' worst ? OR Will 'Trainer1' train at the same speed as they used too, 'Trainer2' get worst, and 'Trainer3' be terrible ? Obviously this will have a major impact on my main game, so I dont want to play that untill I understand the changes better. Also on a different note, not sure if this is DOM or PAHE but there is a werewolf issue. Using 'ok slave/im going to fuck you' whilst in werewolf form caused an actor not found and no animation in werewolf form. Where as 'Im going to have some fun with you' in HSH worked fine. (I have consensual and aggressive anims for werewolfs). Not actualy an issue for me as I was just testing different playthoughs and got bored with that one. 1
lostlegends Posted May 15, 2021 Posted May 15, 2021 Ok so I reread the main page and got the traits needed for taskmaster and trainer, however I still need to understand if this has made HSH training faster or slower. I have spent months just constantly sleeping to train slaves and personaly think its way too slow. Also something to consider, if you are changing something like that, would it not be beneficial to alow us to modify the base stats? eg training sadism/tough/willpower etc. just something to consider as I have spent several hours checking stats on npc's and not found anyone who will now make a great trainer.
TrollAutokill Posted May 15, 2021 Author Posted May 15, 2021 1 hour ago, lostlegends said: Ok so I reread the main page and got the traits needed for taskmaster and trainer, however I still need to understand if this has made HSH training faster or slower. I have spent months just constantly sleeping to train slaves and personaly think its way too slow. Also something to consider, if you are changing something like that, would it not be beneficial to alow us to modify the base stats? eg training sadism/tough/willpower etc. just something to consider as I have spent several hours checking stats on npc's and not found anyone who will now make a great trainer. I am currently trying to debug the HSH interface. An average trainer should keep the same training level as before. A bad one will be twice worse and a good one twice faster. But as it is bugged now, you won't see it.
CliftonJD Posted May 15, 2021 Posted May 15, 2021 8 hours ago, lostlegends said: Also on a different note, not sure if this is DOM or PAHE but there is a werewolf issue. Using 'ok slave/im going to fuck you' whilst in werewolf form caused an actor not found and no animation in werewolf form. i nor blabla ever considered the possibility that the player might fuck the slaves as a werewolf creature. on first guess i'm betting i'll need to factor in the player as creature gender for the script to work...i'll see what i can come up with for next update to pahe 2
TrollAutokill Posted May 15, 2021 Author Posted May 15, 2021 48 minutes ago, CliftonJD said: i nor blabla ever considered the possibility that the player might fuck the slaves as a werewolf creature. on first guess i'm betting i'll need to factor in the player as creature gender for the script to work...i'll see what i can come up with for next update to pahe What about werehens or weremuths? I want to fuck my slaves in any form! ? Sorry I couldn't help it. Don't feed the troll ? Seriously, that would be awesome. It would mean I could play as me, a troll! ?
lostlegends Posted May 15, 2021 Posted May 15, 2021 1 hour ago, CliftonJD said: i nor blabla ever considered the possibility that the player might fuck the slaves as a werewolf creature. on first guess i'm betting i'll need to factor in the player as creature gender for the script to work...i'll see what i can come up with for next update to pahe I like to theme my playthroughs ? but like I said that one was boring. Also werewolf did work with HSH so Musje considerd it, meaning Im not the only weird one lol. Current playthrough Im playing a necromancer. My undead army wipe out bandit areas, then I resurrect the ones I like the look of, check there stats and if they are rubbish I just rekill them!
Keegan van Sloppenstein Posted May 15, 2021 Posted May 15, 2021 On 5/14/2021 at 5:18 PM, TrollAutokill said: You will know they are because they will blush. How is this implemented? RaceMenu face overlay? I have that turned off because it's known to cause crashes with decapitation, so this might not show up for some people. Consider an alternative/extra in that case. 21 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: Quote This thing brings the worst in me That's the spirit. ? Have you two by chance ever played Rimworld? *whispers something about warcrimes and RJW* 2 hours ago, CliftonJD said: i nor blabla ever considered the possibility that the player might fuck the slaves as a werewolf creature Lack of foresight or more like underestimating the power of the internet? We haven't even scratched the surface here! 2 hours ago, CliftonJD said: on first guess i'm betting i'll need to factor in the player as creature gender for the script to work...i'll see what i can come up with for next update to pahe That would be nice indeed! Since we're at that, let me add a little story there. Since on my system (and on the previous save where this took place) script lag is very high sometimes certain checks in mods are effectively bypassed, leading to interesting consequences. What happened was that i enslaved one of the OBIS bandits that turn into werewolves shortly after starting combat. When i started the enslavement process they were human, then the script churned for about 30 seconds doing its thing and before the cloning took place the bandit had turned into a werewolf. That one got cloned and bingo! Got a nice werewolf slave, and soon another, m+f. Both stuck in permanent werewolf form. Training went smoothly but was some of the most violent i had ever seen. Earning some coin via AYGAS worked fine as well; none of the customers complained so i guess that was okay and perfectly reasonable. *shrug* Love it when bugs(?) turn into weird and ridiculous features. Werewolf slut. Heh.
InsanityFactor Posted May 15, 2021 Posted May 15, 2021 2 hours ago, the0fromnexus said: How is this implemented? RaceMenu face overlay? I have that turned off because it's known to cause crashes with decapitation, so this might not show up for some people. Consider an alternative/extra in that case. I believe it's done through SlaveTats. Tears and blush both are quietly applied through SlaveTats in the background when appropriate, and are removed after some time.
ashmodaivirolac Posted May 15, 2021 Posted May 15, 2021 When i put slaves into HSH, thei don´t have the "Come here slave" dialoge anymore and their reply on the "Serious chat" is also a bit strange as they reply they are a "Free person". is that intended or is it jsut a bug on my side?
TrollAutokill Posted May 15, 2021 Author Posted May 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, ashmodaivirolac said: When i put slaves into HSH, thei don´t have the "Come here slave" dialoge anymore and their reply on the "Serious chat" is also a bit strange as they reply they are a "Free person". is that intended or is it jsut a bug on my side? Once slave are in HSH they are out of pahe. So no more "come here slave" dialogue. I will have a look at how to make it work for HSH slaves too. The "free person" I can fix easily by checking on HSH slave faction. I will do that for next update. Thanks for reporting it.
TrollAutokill Posted May 15, 2021 Author Posted May 15, 2021 12 hours ago, InsanityFactor said: I believe it's done through SlaveTats. Tears and blush both are quietly applied through SlaveTats in the background when appropriate, and are removed after some time. Correct. I didn't use racemenu overlays because I didn't learn them yet. Are you saying overlays have more bugged? That would be a pitty because they look pretty good to me and I was considering using them.
lostlegends Posted May 15, 2021 Posted May 15, 2021 Regarding the tears. I did try and do a few bits with slave tats, However it turned out to be much more of a pain than I had imagined. Just getting Photoshop to work with the Nvidia DDS tools was a massive pain in the ass. Some DDS file formats just totaly lock up my photoshop, some crash my pc! and most of the rest just look like shit! Then most just overwrite the current texture (NoOpacity). The problem is getting it to blend with the face/makeup/warpaint etc. But I did start to get someplace, The tears themself were just 30 second wiggley lines lol, the test was more about the blending. 2
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