Diary Of Mine for Paradise Halls

[Arthurj650]

19 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Hi, glad you liked it.

 

HSH interface with DoM can create some glitches. I will have a look. Can you give me more information. Which stat? First slave or well trained? What was the slave activity, being trained or doing nothing?

It was the Fear stat, it shows up as -2 with the slave info spell and it was during any activity and on all of the I put in the Lakeview manor dungeon cell.   It was the trainer and the trainee.  Thank you for the quick response.

[TheStingOfPower]

So I downloaded the newest patch and when I run FNIS I get this warning: >>Warning: \character\behaviors\FNIS_DiaryOfMine_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim compatible<<

I'm not an expert on FNIS and don't know if this is a big deal or not and would really like some help. I'm on oldrim but I did select the correct options when installing if that helps.

[TrollAutokill]

9 minutes ago, TheStingOfPower said:

So I downloaded the newest patch and when I run FNIS I get this warning: >>Warning: \character\behaviors\FNIS_DiaryOfMine_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim compatible<<

I'm not an expert on FNIS and don't know if this is a big deal or not and would really like some help. I'm on oldrim but I did select the correct options when installing if that helps.

 

That's expected. I could only process the behavior file for SE since I don't have oldrim anymore.

 

You could try to reprocess the FNIS behavior file by launching GenerateFNISforModders (in FNIS directory \tools\GenerateFNIS_for_Modders\GenerateFNISforModders.exe)

then click "Generate Mod Behavior", navigate to \Diary Of Mine\meshes\actors\character\animations\DiaryOfMine and select the FNIS txt file.

 

If you are using mo2 you might need to set up the GenerateFNISforModders tools in your "launch" list, just set it up like SKSE but with the correct exe.

 

If it works you can post it here, I will add it to the LE installer. If not, you might need to replace the animations with LE ones from BaboDialogue and MiasLair before running the FNIS modders tool. Let's hope it works.

 

[TrollAutokill]

9 hours ago, Arthurj650 said:

It was the Fear stat, it shows up as -2 with the slave info spell and it was during any activity and on all of the I put in the Lakeview manor dungeon cell.   It was the trainer and the trainee.  Thank you for the quick response.

 

-2 means the faction rank was not found. Actually the Fear training faction is behaving weirdly.

 

Could it be that this slave was put into HSH before the last PAHE update? The Fear training faction was changed by the last update of PAHE and slaves outside of PAHE will not be correctly updated.

 

I would suggest you pull back all your slaves from HSH before updating. Then save, update, save, reload.

 

[stas2503]

@TrollAutokill In Skyrim LE, FNIS gives an error about behavior file incompatibility ...
This behavior file is for the LE version.

FNIS_DiaryOfMine_Behavior.hkx

[CliftonJD]

19 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Thanks Clifton. I will add it to the next version.

welcome

12 hours ago, Arthurj650 said:

It was the Fear stat, it shows up as -2 with the slave info spell and it was during any activity and on all of the I put in the Lakeview manor dungeon cell.   It was the trainer and the trainee.  Thank you for the quick response.

try a slave reset while its in pahe

7 minutes ago, stas2503 said:

@TrollAutokill In Skyrim LE, FNIS gives an error about behavior file incompatibility ...
This behavior file is for the LE version.

FNIS_DiaryOfMine_Behavior.hkx 42.77 kB · 0 downloads

read back, he just replied to the sting about that further up the page

[stas2503]

1 minute ago, CliftonJD said:

read back, he just replied to the sting about that further up the page

Well, I did it yesterday ... I just didn't have time to write about it.

[xyzxyz]

FNIS warning >>Warnung: \character\behaviors\FNIS_DiaryOfMine_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim compatible<< when playing the mod on LE. So FNIS is blocked and every NPC is in T-pose.

And I noticed maxed out slaves (100 everywhere) started to run away for no reason. The new dialogue didn't showed up as well.

@CliftonJD

[CliftonJD]

22 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

FNIS warning >>Warnung: \character\behaviors\FNIS_DiaryOfMine_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim compatible<< when playing the mod on LE. So FNIS is blocked and every NPC is in T-pose.

mentioned further up the page

23 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

And I noticed maxed out slaves (100 everywhere) started to run away for no reason. The new dialogue didn't showed up as well.

resignation handles slave runaways in diary

troll needs to update the resignation and humiliation migration from submission for the latest update changes

[CliftonJD]

On 3/25/2021 at 1:24 PM, TrollAutokill said:

AYGAS and HSH integration. HSH trainer and task master traits are taken into account, a mean and tough trainer should be better at this job. AYGAS slaves value depends on all training stats, it should be roughly half of the value you get through the "Check slave value" dialogue.

this seems to be lost in the recent updates, seems hsh and aygas need updated to the new stats

On 5/4/2021 at 7:04 PM, CliftonJD said:

2 of my tdf prostitute slaves gave some odd results for notifications during sex:

the first slut thought she was taking pain for no reason and the other slut thought she was punished with sex for no reason...maybe change the notices for the sex tracker event

in addition i noticed this bug still persists on the current version and with newer slaves as well

[stas2503]

44 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

FNIS warning >>Warnung: \character\behaviors\FNIS_DiaryOfMine_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim compatible<< when playing the mod on LE. So FNIS is blocked and every NPC is in T-pose.

I posted the behavior file above.
place it in the "meshes\actors\character\behaviors" folder and confirm the replacement.

[TrollAutokill]

1 hour ago, stas2503 said:

I posted the behavior file above.
place it in the "meshes\actors\character\behaviors" folder and confirm the replacement.

Thanks star2503. I will include the file in the next update.

[InsanityFactor]

5 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

resignation handles slave runaways in diary

I've been meaning to ask about that, is it 60 resignation for 0% chance to run? Or is it a different value now?

[TrollAutokill]

1 hour ago, InsanityFactor said:

I've been meaning to ask about that, is it 60 resignation for 0% chance to run? Or is it a different value now?

It was always based on submission (in DoM resignation) with a cap at 60 and this value can be set in the PAHE MCM, well at least it was a configurable value and still should be.

 

Then in PAHE you have one more factor, the last time since punished and now in DoM an extra mood factor. So angry slaves will have a higher chance to run away than a sad one. And broken slaves next to zero.

[mrMoist]

for some reason none of the "come here slave" dialogue options  actually do anything for me. did I fuck something up?

[InsanityFactor]

6 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Then in PAHE you have one more factor, the last time since punished and now in DoM an extra mood factor. So angry slaves will have a higher chance to run away than a sad one. And broken slaves next to zero.

Ah ok, that makes sense. I remember that periodically slapping new slaves in PAHE would keep them from running, but it was also just a binary thing for submission; at 60 you were totally safe and they wouldn't run, is there a set value like that in DoM?

 

Also, I've been doing a lot of testing lately, I tried to have a "normal playthough" with DoM, AYGAS, and HSH all at once. So I'll put the findings of that in a spoiler so I don't spam the page with my nonsense  

Spoiler

First two captures at Fort Greymoor and Redoran's Retreat, (of course lol) and everything went really well.

 

Before I get into the actual report, I gotta say that this mod Nonseen linked a while ago is AMAZING: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/41728 It adds so many really cool looking female bandits, and some of them actually even have different scales, so some are 10% taller or shorter than normal. I was lucky enough to find a tiny bosmer dryad and a towering snow-elf looking altmer in my game, very very cool stuff! 

 

Anyway, the first two slaves had pretty manageable personalities, and almost everything went as expected. Resignation rose at an appropriate rate, as well as submission, fear, and respect. The only two issues I had for these first slaves were:

 

1. Sex training is very very slow. It looks to me like it rises by about 1 per sex act, 2 if they are ashamed. I know you put in sliders to adjust training gain amount but I just wanted to confirm those numbers were intended before I tried it. I'm also not sure how much of an impact the "touch yourself" command has on sex training, maybe I should be using that more often? Touch yourself also still cancels out the animation after a couple seconds, could be on my end though. (Oddly enough, this is only for the highest trained animation, the one where they put both of their hands between their legs plays until the slave properly cancels it herself.)

 

2. Anger training is still somewhat of a mystery to me, I can raise it somewhat, (around 50 is the furthest I've gotten) but more often than not I end up lowering it back down to 0 somehow, maybe that's my fault, or maybe the personalities I've seen so far are just like that, either way could you explain anger training a bit more, like how it gets lowered?

 

Aside from those issues, I was also a bit confused about the "in love" and "loyal" moods. One slave was in love, and another was loyal, but after a while both statuses went away and the slave's mood was just "OK." Is it intended that those moods go away? I was under the impression that loyal was a permanent endgame state for a servant and love was the permanent endgame state for a sex slave. Does anger training affect this? Anyways, I wasn't sure if that was supposed to happen so I mentioned it.

 

All that being said, those first two went really well. The issues I'm mentioning are super minor and didn't really mess anything up for me, I was certainly able to manage  

I caught a couple more and trained them up, sold them and bought Lakeside. But I kept these first two.

 

Now where things got weird is when I got some more slaves...

 

I captured about seven from Pinewatch, and brought them back to Lakeside for training. I had all of them in a room, and I went about breaking them one by one, getting their resignation to around 80 and sending them somewhere else in the house for later. As I trained one, I would get notifications about a bunch of the others. For example, whipping Slave1 would give a notification that I was teaching Slave4 how to be a good girl, and that I was punishing Slave2 and Slave3 with pain for no reason, and punishing Slave5 with rape for no reason, and then all of the friends of these slaves would freak out as though I had just beat and raped 5 of them simultaneously. (I wish)

 

I think the friend mechanic is cool, but maybe you could add an MCM option to toggle it? It usually ends up dumping a lot of notifications on the left side, and I suspect it becomes script heavy with any more than 4 slaves, although you'd probably know better than I. I think allowing a toggle would be ideal, but I don't even know if that's possible, I'll leave that to you.  

 

The last part of my testing journey is with HSH, which I know you're already aware has issues, so I won't bother you with too many specifics. Long story short, they don't really train each other anymore. 3 days' time yields no change in stats whatsoever, except pose and sex. Pose goes up by maybe 10 or 20 a day, while sex goes up by maybe 4. Submission, fear, resignation, and respect all stay completely still. (I didn't try combat training) That being said, telling two slaves to practice sex on each other works fine, it's only training that craps out.

 

The slaves being trained had most of their stats in high 70s-80s (except combat at 0, and sex around 10) and were trained by slaves with 90-100 in all categories (except combat at 0 and sex at ~60). I'm not sure if that is useful information at all but just for the sake of being comprehensive I'll mention it.   

 

All-in-all, this works great so far for small companies of slaves. AYGAS value is solid, poses work and vary properly based on training, tears and facial expressions come and go properly, and the potions perform as expected. Looking forward to future updates.

 

[TrollAutokill]

On 5/11/2021 at 3:34 PM, xyzxyz said:

FNIS warning >>Warnung: \character\behaviors\FNIS_DiaryOfMine_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim compatible<< when playing the mod on LE. So FNIS is blocked and every NPC is in T-pose.

And I noticed maxed out slaves (100 everywhere) started to run away for no reason. The new dialogue didn't showed up as well.

@CliftonJD

As Clifton said, if you migrate from PAHE to PAHE+DoM your slaves will have resignation=0 by default and will start running away. Nothing that can not be solved with a whip... I will take a look at the migration for next version.

[TrollAutokill]

On 5/11/2021 at 4:09 PM, CliftonJD said:

this seems to be lost in the recent updates, seems hsh and aygas need updated to the new stats

in addition i noticed this bug still persists on the current version and with newer slaves as well

I moved the training to PAHCore, hopefully it is fixed in version 1.5.0. Also I added a training tip in the mod description page to help find good trainers and good task masters.

[TrollAutokill]

16 hours ago, mrMoist said:

for some reason none of the "come here slave" dialogue options  actually do anything for me. did I fuck something up?

Which version are you using LE or SE?

Also remember to run FNIS after installing the mod or no animation will be played.

 

[TrollAutokill]

15 hours ago, InsanityFactor said:

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First two captures at Fort Greymoor and Redoran's Retreat, (of course lol) and everything went really well.

 

Before I get into the actual report, I gotta say that this mod Nonseen linked a while ago is AMAZING: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/41728 It adds so many really cool looking female bandits, and some of them actually even have different scales, so some are 10% taller or shorter than normal. I was lucky enough to find a tiny bosmer dryad and a towering snow-elf looking altmer in my game, very very cool stuff! 

 

Anyway, the first two slaves had pretty manageable personalities, and almost everything went as expected. Resignation rose at an appropriate rate, as well as submission, fear, and respect. The only two issues I had for these first slaves were:

 

1. Sex training is very very slow. It looks to me like it rises by about 1 per sex act, 2 if they are ashamed. I know you put in sliders to adjust training gain amount but I just wanted to confirm those numbers were intended before I tried it. I'm also not sure how much of an impact the "touch yourself" command has on sex training, maybe I should be using that more often?

 

Ok, I will have a look at that, my experience was more between +2 and +4 percent depending of if they are ashamed or not. Touch yourself gives a small boost to vaginal training, that's all. Also try to use the lust potion and the sex will be better!

 

15 hours ago, InsanityFactor said:

Touch yourself also still cancels out the animation after a couple seconds, could be on my end though. (Oddly enough, this is only for the highest trained animation, the one where they put both of their hands between their legs plays until the slave properly cancels it herself.)

Sorry I still didn't check this animation. I should.

15 hours ago, InsanityFactor said:

 

2. Anger training is still somewhat of a mystery to me, I can raise it somewhat, (around 50 is the furthest I've gotten) but more often than not I end up lowering it back down to 0 somehow, maybe that's my fault, or maybe the personalities I've seen so far are just like that, either way could you explain anger training a bit more, like how it gets lowered?

Punish them when they are in angry mood. Also tie them and wait for them to struggle. Both should raise anger training. But also hurting their friends and doing nonsense actions decrease anger training. It can be frustrating and need some adjustment. We will see.

 

15 hours ago, InsanityFactor said:

Aside from those issues, I was also a bit confused about the "in love" and "loyal" moods. One slave was in love, and another was loyal, but after a while both statuses went away and the slave's mood was just "OK." Is it intended that those moods go away? I was under the impression that loyal was a permanent endgame state for a servant and love was the permanent endgame state for a sex slave. Does anger training affect this? Anyways, I wasn't sure if that was supposed to happen so I mentioned it.

Yes they go away when the slave realize it's mistake, but they come back and stay longer and longer. Also having sex with an inlove slave is the best way to increase their sex training.

 

15 hours ago, InsanityFactor said:

All that being said, those first two went really well. The issues I'm mentioning are super minor and didn't really mess anything up for me, I was certainly able to manage  

I caught a couple more and trained them up, sold them and bought Lakeside. But I kept these first two.

Glad to hear. But no pictures means it did not happen ?

15 hours ago, InsanityFactor said:

 

Now where things got weird is when I got some more slaves...

 

I captured about seven from Pinewatch, and brought them back to Lakeside for training. I had all of them in a room, and I went about breaking them one by one, getting their resignation to around 80 and sending them somewhere else in the house for later. As I trained one, I would get notifications about a bunch of the others. For example, whipping Slave1 would give a notification that I was teaching Slave4 how to be a good girl, and that I was punishing Slave2 and Slave3 with pain for no reason, and punishing Slave5 with rape for no reason, and then all of the friends of these slaves would freak out as though I had just beat and raped 5 of them simultaneously. (I wish)

We should reproduce this to understand. This is really weird.

15 hours ago, InsanityFactor said:

 

I think the friend mechanic is cool, but maybe you could add an MCM option to toggle it? It usually ends up dumping a lot of notifications on the left side, and I suspect it becomes script heavy with any more than 4 slaves, although you'd probably know better than I. I think allowing a toggle would be ideal, but I don't even know if that's possible, I'll leave that to you.  

Your wish was granted in version 1.5.0

15 hours ago, InsanityFactor said:

 

The last part of my testing journey is with HSH, which I know you're already aware has issues, so I won't bother you with too many specifics. Long story short, they don't really train each other anymore. 3 days' time yields no change in stats whatsoever, except pose and sex. Pose goes up by maybe 10 or 20 a day, while sex goes up by maybe 4. Submission, fear, resignation, and respect all stay completely still. (I didn't try combat training) That being said, telling two slaves to practice sex on each other works fine, it's only training that craps out.

 

The slaves being trained had most of their stats in high 70s-80s (except combat at 0, and sex around 10) and were trained by slaves with 90-100 in all categories (except combat at 0 and sex at ~60). I'm not sure if that is useful information at all but just for the sake of being comprehensive I'll mention it.   

 

All-in-all, this works great so far for small companies of slaves. AYGAS value is solid, poses work and vary properly based on training, tears and facial expressions come and go properly, and the potions perform as expected. Looking forward to future updates.

All this might be solved with version 1.5.0. OF course more testing is needed.

 

Keep the good work!

[TrollAutokill]

So version 1.5.0 is out with two major upgrades:

* the 6th missing trait was choosen to be "perversion direction" between dominant (at 0) and submissive (at 100). This only describe the NPC preference not their feelings toward you. Actors will not talk about this aspect of their personality.

 

*Slaves now express their feelings at random according to their mood. Less if they are shy or calm. If you are tired of hearing them you can order them to shut the **ck off, and punish them if they can't help it.

 

 

[InsanityFactor]

25 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

Ok, I will have a look at that, my experience was more between +2 and +4 percent depending of if they are ashamed or not. Touch yourself gives a small boost to vaginal training, that's all. Also try to use the lust potion and the sex will be better!

Ok, sounds good. Does touch yourself give more training based on how long they do it or just a flat increase every time you tell them to do it?

26 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

Punish them when they are in angry mood. Also tie them and wait for them to struggle. Both should raise anger training. But also hurting their friends and doing nonsense actions decrease anger training. It can be frustrating and need some adjustment. We will see.

Got it, I wasn't really tying them up at all because I was using devious devices instead. But that makes sense now, I'll try it out.

 

27 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

Yes they go away when the slave realize it's mistake, but they come back and stay longer and longer. Also having sex with an inlove slave is the best way to increase their sex training.

Got it, I did notice that sex training was really fast on the in love slave, for the time she felt that way anyway  

 

28 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

We should reproduce this to understand. This is really weird.

Yeah I was able to get this to happen every time I had more than 5 slaves following me, this honestly could just be script weirdness on my end, but in any case it was reproducible for me every time.

 

29 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

Your wish was granted in version 1.5.0

 Oh fantastic! 

 

29 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

All this might be solved with version 1.5.0. OF course more testing is needed.

I'll try out this version soon.

 

28 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

So version 1.5.0 is out with two major upgrades:

* the 6th missing trait was choosen to be "perversion direction" between dominant (at 0) and submissive (at 100). This only describe the NPC preference not their feelings toward you.

*Slaves now express their feelings at random but according to their mood. Less if they are shy or calm.

Sounds interesting, how does dominant and submissive play into training? Is it just for HSH utility or does it affect sex training for example?

[InsanityFactor]

54 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

Glad to hear. But no pictures means it did not happen ?

hahaha fair enough, here's some screens of my first two slaves that I can't bring myself to sell. Please don't shame my Lakeside I haven't been able to furnish it yet  

 

First one is the tall snow elf looking Altmer. I had to set her scale to .9 because with the heels on she was like 8 feet tall, so with these heels on and at 90% scale she's at her natural height before I adjusted it.

Spoiler

She's valued at 9000 gold apparently, but I'll never sell.

 

Here she is next to a tiny Breton I just found, for comparison.

 

Next is the other of my first two, a Nord who also had silver hair and fair skin. I couldn't sell either one because they looked so cool together. The silver ladies  

Spoiler

Obviously the Altmer is my favorite, but they're both for keeping  

[TrollAutokill]

Oops forgot the seq file in the update. Now everything should be fixed. Any download before this message should be deleted and redownloaded.

 

Have fun.

[TrollAutokill]

1 hour ago, InsanityFactor said:

Ok, sounds good. Does touch yourself give more training based on how long they do it or just a flat increase every time you tell them to do it?

Got it, I wasn't really tying them up at all because I was using devious devices instead. But that makes sense now, I'll try it out.

 

Got it, I did notice that sex training was really fast on the in love slave, for the time she felt that way anyway  

 

Yeah I was able to get this to happen every time I had more than 5 slaves following me, this honestly could just be script weirdness on my end, but in any case it was reproducible for me every time.

 

 Oh fantastic! 

 

I'll try out this version soon.

 

Sounds interesting, how does dominant and submissive play into training? Is it just for HSH utility or does it affect sex training for example?

And relaod the version 1.5.0 the previous one was not complete.