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Posted
4 hours ago, sickboy791 said:

i hope i don´t get so much outrage for a suggestion again, but what exactly do you intend with this spank slave item ?? is there any difference to the pahe whip? or zaz whip ?

if it´s going to be what i think it´s going to be.... it would be cool to have some wounds triggered by this thing 

 

Yes I've suggested some assets from Collygon's wounds here before too, bruises would be nice, but they're not for everyone. :'(

The spank slave thing works the same as the whip except it has one special thing about it. If you use it on a slave that is posing, the spank has a chance to make them flinch, that boosts their pose training if you punish them for flinching. 

 

Best way to do it is have them pose, put the spank in one hand and the whip in the other, warn them against not posing, and then slap them until they flinch, hit them with the whip a few times, and then slap them again until they flinch, and so on. You can get to 100 pose pretty fast if you focus on it for a while this way. 

Posted
19 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

You're right AE SE transition is not as huge as LE to SE. You can even use SE mods out of the box, as long as they don't use DLLs. I have a lot of SE mods in my mod list and I have no problem with them.

 

So when you say you went to AE, do you mean the Steam update for SE or did you buy the actual AE version? 

Posted
On 6/21/2022 at 6:02 PM, TrollAutokill said:

You might want to banish me from all temples of Dibella, but I don't care, I have plenty of other places to roam ?.

 

I switched to the dark side.

 

 

 

Yeah! I am switched to dark side too :) But DOM MCM menu not work for AE. I think something wrong with hotkeys. After DOM was installed other mod hotkeys stop work.

 

Now i use this mods for AE:

Spoiler

TES V Skyrim AE - 2021
    00 BASE
        00 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch
            [Arthmoor] Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch 4.2.7
            [sattyre] Unofficial Skyrim Modder's Patch - USMP SE 2.5.5
        01 SKSE
        02 Address Library for SKSE Plugins
        03 SkyUI
        01 Dear Diary - Paper SkyUI Menus Replacer SE
        02 A Matter of Time - A HUD clock widget
        04 Fores New Idles in Skyrim SE - FNIS SE
        05 RaceMenu
        06 XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended - XPMSSE
        07 SSE Engine Fixes (skse64 plugin)
        08 PapyrusUtil SE - Modders Scripting Utility Functions
        09 JContainers SE
        10 UIExtensions
        11 Better MessageBox Controls
        12 Fuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice
        13 CBPC - Physics with Collisions for SSE and VR
        14 HDT-SMP (Skinned Mesh Physics)
        15 FSMP - Faster HDT-SMP
        16 Heels Sound 1.5 SSE
        17 Auto Hide Ammo
        17 Auto Unequip Ammo
        18 opparco mfg Command for SSE
            01 Mfg Fix        
    01 OPTIMIZATION
        01 PrivateProfileRedirector SE - Faster game start (INI file cacher)
        02 Lightened Skyrim
        03 Skyrim Priority SE AE - skse plugin
        04 SSE Display Tweaks        
    02 TOOLS
        01 BodySlide and Outfit Studio
        02 Simple Mod Item Spawner -Alternative To AddItemMenu for AE VR or SE
        03 Simple Outfit System
        04 SSEEdit
        05 Jaxonz Positioner Converted
        06 Jaxonz MCM Kicker SE
    03 MALE BODY
        01[galgaroth]Schlongs of Skyrim SE 1.1.4
        02[chuckseven1]SoS AE 1.0.3
        03 Schlongs_of_Skyrim_SE_HDT-SMP - v1.1
        04 Highly Improved Male Body Overhaul -HIMBO- 4.4.1
    04 FEMALE BODY
        00 Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE-
        01 CBBE 3BA (3BBB)
        02 Diamond Skin - CBBE and UNP Female Textures
        03 High Poly Head SE
        04 High Poly NPC Overhaul - Resources
        05 High Poly NPC Overhaul - Skyrim Special Edition 2.0 (All Vanilla NPCs)
        06 Demonic Bodyslide Preset CBBE 3BA and BHUNP Nemesislol post
        07 3BA Vanilla Clothes and Armor
    05 SEXLAB
        01 SexLab SE - Sex Animation Framework v1.64c
        02 OSL Aroused - Arousal Reborn (SSE & AE) 2.1.1
        03 SexLab Animation Loader SSE 1.0.0
            SLAL Animation Pack by Leito SE 1.6
        04 Sexlab tools for SE (Patched) 3.0.0
        05 SexLab TDF Prostitution and Pimping SE
    06 SLAVES
        01 ZAZ Animation Packs for SE
        02 Devious Devices SE AE VR
        03 Serial Strip & Serial Stripper SE
        04 SlaveTats
            OPTIONS
        05 Paradise Halls Enhanced (pahe) Special Edition with the customary addons
        06 Paradise Halls - Home Sweet Home
        07 PAH - And you get a slave!
    07 ANIMATIONS
        01 Expressive Facegen Morphs SE
        01 Expressive Facial Animation -Female Edition-
        02 Expressive Facial Animation -Male Edition-
        03 Dynamic Animation Replacer
        04 New SSE - AE Female Animations Walk - Run With Idle
        05 Poses
            01 Gunslicer
    08 ENB
        01 ENBSeries v0.475 for TES Skyrim SE
        02 Obsidian Weathers and Seasons
        03 SkyrimSE Re-Engaged ENB
        04 ENB Helper SE
    09 VOICE
        01 SexLab TDF Prostitution and Pimping
            2021-08-15
        02 PAHE voicepack 8.0.7_alpha1
        03 PAH HSH voicepack 1.26_alpha1
        04 PAH - And you get a slave! - voicepack 0.58_alpha1
        05 DiaryOfMine voicepack 2.6.2_0.1

 

Posted (edited)
8 hours ago, DarkMaster13 said:

 

Yeah! I am switched to dark side too :) But DOM MCM menu not work for AE. I think something wrong with hotkeys. After DOM was installed other mod hotkeys stop work.

 

Now i use this mods for AE:

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TES V Skyrim AE - 2021
    00 BASE
        00 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch
            [Arthmoor] Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch 4.2.7
            [sattyre] Unofficial Skyrim Modder's Patch - USMP SE 2.5.5
        01 SKSE
        02 Address Library for SKSE Plugins
        03 SkyUI
        01 Dear Diary - Paper SkyUI Menus Replacer SE
        02 A Matter of Time - A HUD clock widget
        04 Fores New Idles in Skyrim SE - FNIS SE
        05 RaceMenu
        06 XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended - XPMSSE
        07 SSE Engine Fixes (skse64 plugin)
        08 PapyrusUtil SE - Modders Scripting Utility Functions
        09 JContainers SE
        10 UIExtensions
        11 Better MessageBox Controls
        12 Fuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice
        13 CBPC - Physics with Collisions for SSE and VR
        14 HDT-SMP (Skinned Mesh Physics)
        15 FSMP - Faster HDT-SMP
        16 Heels Sound 1.5 SSE
        17 Auto Hide Ammo
        17 Auto Unequip Ammo
        18 opparco mfg Command for SSE
            01 Mfg Fix        
    01 OPTIMIZATION
        01 PrivateProfileRedirector SE - Faster game start (INI file cacher)
        02 Lightened Skyrim
        03 Skyrim Priority SE AE - skse plugin
        04 SSE Display Tweaks        
    02 TOOLS
        01 BodySlide and Outfit Studio
        02 Simple Mod Item Spawner -Alternative To AddItemMenu for AE VR or SE
        03 Simple Outfit System
        04 SSEEdit
        05 Jaxonz Positioner Converted
        06 Jaxonz MCM Kicker SE
    03 MALE BODY
        01[galgaroth]Schlongs of Skyrim SE 1.1.4
        02[chuckseven1]SoS AE 1.0.3
        03 Schlongs_of_Skyrim_SE_HDT-SMP - v1.1
        04 Highly Improved Male Body Overhaul -HIMBO- 4.4.1
    04 FEMALE BODY
        00 Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE-
        01 CBBE 3BA (3BBB)
        02 Diamond Skin - CBBE and UNP Female Textures
        03 High Poly Head SE
        04 High Poly NPC Overhaul - Resources
        05 High Poly NPC Overhaul - Skyrim Special Edition 2.0 (All Vanilla NPCs)
        06 Demonic Bodyslide Preset CBBE 3BA and BHUNP Nemesislol post
        07 3BA Vanilla Clothes and Armor
    05 SEXLAB
        01 SexLab SE - Sex Animation Framework v1.64c
        02 OSL Aroused - Arousal Reborn (SSE & AE) 2.1.1
        03 SexLab Animation Loader SSE 1.0.0
            SLAL Animation Pack by Leito SE 1.6
        04 Sexlab tools for SE (Patched) 3.0.0
        05 SexLab TDF Prostitution and Pimping SE
    06 SLAVES
        01 ZAZ Animation Packs for SE
        02 Devious Devices SE AE VR
        03 Serial Strip & Serial Stripper SE
        04 SlaveTats
            OPTIONS
        05 Paradise Halls Enhanced (pahe) Special Edition with the customary addons
        06 Paradise Halls - Home Sweet Home
        07 PAH - And you get a slave!
    07 ANIMATIONS
        01 Expressive Facegen Morphs SE
        01 Expressive Facial Animation -Female Edition-
        02 Expressive Facial Animation -Male Edition-
        03 Dynamic Animation Replacer
        04 New SSE - AE Female Animations Walk - Run With Idle
        05 Poses
            01 Gunslicer
    08 ENB
        01 ENBSeries v0.475 for TES Skyrim SE
        02 Obsidian Weathers and Seasons
        03 SkyrimSE Re-Engaged ENB
        04 ENB Helper SE
    09 VOICE
        01 SexLab TDF Prostitution and Pimping
            2021-08-15
        02 PAHE voicepack 8.0.7_alpha1
        03 PAH HSH voicepack 1.26_alpha1
        04 PAH - And you get a slave! - voicepack 0.58_alpha1
        05 DiaryOfMine voicepack 2.6.2_0.1

 

Try to restart MCM menus. I added my list of mods and my load order in the blog.

 

 

 

Edited by TrollAutokill
Posted
17 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Try to restart MCM menus. I added my list of mods and my load order in the blog.

 

 

 

 

I start new game from save without mods. It helped me.

Posted

Just don't abandon SE, yeah?

Like it's early enough in my use that I don't think I'll be completely heartbroken if you do abandon SE but I'll miss it all the same

Posted
3 hours ago, Farsh-nuke said:

Just don't abandon SE, yeah?

Like it's early enough in my use that I don't think I'll be completely heartbroken if you do abandon SE but I'll miss it all the same

There will probably not be any new version of DoM this summer. Next version will have to be taken care of, and we will make sure it is compatible with SE. There is no reason it shouldn't be, but with Skyrim you never know.

Posted

First, I want to mention that I love this mod, you've done an amazing job with it so far. What I want to ask though, is do you personally recommend using HSH and AYGAS with PAHE and DoM? I recently installed both, and while they have certainly increased immersion in some areas, they seem to have made my game unstable, I crash a whole lot more - and have even had certain NPCs "break" when transitioning between being controlled by PAHE or HSH. There's also a fair bit of dialogue grammar issues, words that should have a apostrophe with an "s" that don't, stuff like that (though it's become hard to tell which mod(s) the dialogue issues are coming from). Was wondering if you personally use them, or even just one of them yourself or not - or if you recommend just sticking with PAHE + DoM?

Posted
23 minutes ago, ShadowProctor said:

Was wondering if you personally use them, or even just one of them yourself or not - or if you recommend just sticking with PAHE + DoM?

There really isn't an answer to your question; it depends entirely on how you play. 

 

I couldn't play without AYGAS.  (At least until DoM implements my proposed replacement for it! ?)  Distributing slaves to the many NPCs I've gotten to know over my time in Skyrim is a huge part of the draw for me.  I'm very selective about which slaves I want to keep for myself, but I still would feel a sense of loss if any of the slaves I've rehabilitated were removed from my game.  Walking into a city and seeing all those familiar faces is my "endgame" in a sense.  Trying to find nice pets for NPCs I like—or trying to dump slaves who aren't worth the trouble on NPCs I don't—is also part of the appeal.  AYGAS is the only mod that makes any of this possible.  

 

HSH I use much more sparingly, as DoM has already made many of its features redundant.  But there are still some things HSH does that cannot be replicated in DoM, so I continue to use it for now.  

 

As for your stability issues, that sounds like a you problem.  Work on your modlist and your load order, and once you find a good setup, there shouldn't be any stability/performance issues.  I use the full suite on a fairly lacklustre PC, and my game is about as stable as vanilla Skyrim.

Posted (edited)

First off, I want to start and say that what you have done with DOM has been really amazing!  It adds so much depth to my game, and really is a must have addition to skyrim.  And I want to thank you for your tireless efforts to craft this mod with care, to provide the best results.

 

But I must say I have been struggling.  I have several issues currently that I can not solve on my own and would humbly ask for any support that is freely given.  

 

1-  I get severe dialogue lag periodically during game play where the dialogue freezes and it can take up to two mins or so to clear up.  I can slowly move my cursor and look around but I cant move in any direction, tab out, or hit escape key to exit the conversation.  I just have to wait it out.  I have tried to disable/enable the npc, but that seems like i may break something if I continue doing that.  There are times where I can not tab out of the blank dialogue screen.  Its like its waiting for something or conflicting with something in the back ground.  Maybe another mod I am using?  It happens mostly when i am going through the dialogue tree to punish/train new slaves, but it can happen during any conversation, but this is much more infrequent.  I am currently running DOM 2.12.0 with PAHE 8.1.4.  But this has been happening for a long time previous to these versions for a while now.  It can happen with just a few slaves in my slave inventory, like less than 5.  The only thing i know is that it never happens when i play my games without DOM.  (But then i have to ask, is it worth playing without DOM?????  We all know the answer to that silly question.)  So I must have another mod that is conflicting with or i have mods out of load order that I have overlooked or just flat out havent identified yet.  I have been looking for a while with little success.  Has any one else suffered from this?  I have to say when i am in a flurry of key strokes and mouse clicking, it has taken all my resolve to remain patient.  LOL

 

2-  Running DOM 2.12.0 with PAHE 8.1.4 has been loading up my log files with all kinds of crazy errors.  It almost seems like i have some kind of file corruption going on in my files but I dont know what.  I have cleared out my overwrite files and reloaded my mods from scratch, and removed several mods entirely and loaded them back in clean, restarted multiple games with various changes to no avail.  And eventually early in every game I am getting stack errors, stack truncation errors & eventually stack dump errors.  This log does not have the stack dumps yet.  And strange stuff is going on with the slaves after I tie them up with shackles " i am going to make sure you stay here(tie up)" or something to that effect.  Sometimes the dialogue menu will not give me the remove binding option to remove the shackles.  Visually they are on them and in their inventory currently being equipped.  It will give me the follow me option, but it does not work due to the shackles are actually on them, and then if i remove them by plucking them out of their inventory it will not give me the new follow me command because it thinks they are following me from the last time i clicked it.  So i have to kind of dance around by taking the shackles out of inventory and retying them till i get fed up and just reclone them.  I have to do this a lot.  There may be some kind of issue with PAHE because when I just used that without DOM, my slaves would often zip around on their knees when i made them pose with the "Stand" witch actualy makes them kneel and used to keep them in one spot with out having to shackle them.  I would tell them to follow me and THEN they would move, but that does not work like this any more.  But running DOM with PAHE seems to fix PAHE slave knee zipping on the ground.

 

So please take mercy on a poor fool at the end of his patience.  I am sure one of you geniuses has an idea, if not seen this before.  I have tried to search for answers and tried to read the mountain of pages but I keep getting distracted and I have not been able to read the entire 178 pages effectively to find any solutions.  My apologies.

 

Thank you in advance!

 

PS.  I am also getting doubling in my slave count from time to time as well.  IE, i actually have 20 slaves, but I will get a new one and it will tell me i now have 42 slaves or something crazy like that.  Typically if I save and reload it fixes it.

 

Papyrus.0.log 20220629 load order.pdf

Edited by Machovich
Forgot about slave count doing a double count sometimes.
Posted
2 hours ago, Machovich said:

I get severe dialogue lag periodically

This is a well known bug, I had it since forever and before DoM existed. No idea what's the cause, other than a Skyrim SE old bug triggered by dialogue heavy mods.

 

Note that, I have yet to experience it with AE. Maybe LE users can comment if they have the same experience as SE.

Posted
5 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

This is a well known bug, I had it since forever and before DoM existed. No idea what's the cause, other than a Skyrim SE old bug triggered by dialogue heavy mods.

 

Note that, I have yet to experience it with AE. Maybe LE users can comment if they have the same experience as SE.

I have this occasionally but its very rare.

Posted
1 hour ago, Gräfin Zeppelin said:

I have this occasionally but its very rare.

Would you please do me a favor and post your load list for me?  Maybe I can change what I have to make it more aligned with successfully running a problem free game.

 

Thank you!

Posted

The "wandering maid" bug is a pretty universal issue in the current build, right?  Not sure if it's just me or not, but I've found a very simple workaround:

  1. Talk to the slave you want to be a maid and "Ok slave" → "Wait around here (sandbox)"
  2. Leave and go do something.  I can confirm that Step 1 isn't enough without leaving, but I haven't pinned down how far you need to go or how long you need to be gone.  I usually just do one quest or clear one dungeon or whatever.
  3. Come back and talk to the slave, "Follow me", but don't actually go anywhere with her.
  4. Now you can "Listen to me slave" → "You're in charge of cleaning up the mess in here" and she shouldn't wander off.
Posted
2 hours ago, Antiope_Apollonia said:

The "wandering maid" bug is a pretty universal issue in the current build, right?  Not sure if it's just me or not, but I've found a very simple workaround:

  1. Talk to the slave you want to be a maid and "Ok slave" → "Wait around here (sandbox)"
  2. Leave and go do something.  I can confirm that Step 1 isn't enough without leaving, but I haven't pinned down how far you need to go or how long you need to be gone.  I usually just do one quest or clear one dungeon or whatever.
  3. Come back and talk to the slave, "Follow me", but don't actually go anywhere with her.
  4. Now you can "Listen to me slave" → "You're in charge of cleaning up the mess in here" and she shouldn't wander off.

Have you had the issue with non-unique npcs or just uniques? I understood that they would go back to their old house if they were unique, are bandits and others wandering to random places now too? 

Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, Antiope_Apollonia said:

The "wandering maid" bug is a pretty universal issue in the current build, right?  Not sure if it's just me or not, but I've found a very simple workaround:

  1. Talk to the slave you want to be a maid and "Ok slave" → "Wait around here (sandbox)"
  2. Leave and go do something.  I can confirm that Step 1 isn't enough without leaving, but I haven't pinned down how far you need to go or how long you need to be gone.  I usually just do one quest or clear one dungeon or whatever.
  3. Come back and talk to the slave, "Follow me", but don't actually go anywhere with her.
  4. Now you can "Listen to me slave" → "You're in charge of cleaning up the mess in here" and she shouldn't wander off.

It might come from the maid package location parameter not correctly initialized. It's on my list of Todo stuff.

 

Now that I think of it there is only one maid package, so if you have more than one maid they might end up all at the same place.

 

In short it should be integrated to the main PAHE package, instead of how it is done now.

Edited by TrollAutokill
Posted

So I have a question for you all. Do slaves trying to escape count as the player faction as far as 'Protection' on an NPC goes. I've been trying to save magic leashes by not using them when I'm about to handover the slaves to the mines in Home Sweet Home and NPCs who should be protected end up dead. It's possible it's just friendly fire from when my followers punish them and miss but I thought I'd check,

Posted
On 6/30/2022 at 3:32 PM, TrollAutokill said:

It might come from the maid package location parameter not correctly initialized. It's on my list of Todo stuff.

 

Now that I think of it there is only one maid package, so if you have more than one maid they might end up all at the same place.

 

In short it should be integrated to the main PAHE package, instead of how it is done now.

pahe has cleaning slave behaviors written into it already as blabla's parting farewell gift, we just never got round to adding dialogue for it. the pahe method already has its own behavior package as well, refer to state cleanHouse

15 hours ago, Farsh-nuke said:

So I have a question for you all. Do slaves trying to escape count as the player faction as far as 'Protection' on an NPC goes. I've been trying to save magic leashes by not using them when I'm about to handover the slaves to the mines in Home Sweet Home and NPCs who should be protected end up dead. It's possible it's just friendly fire from when my followers punish them and miss but I thought I'd check,

protected mode is set on the slave alias in the quest, but when refering to home sweet home, it might not have the same protected status as pahe

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