Antiope_Apollonia Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 45 minutes ago, CliftonJD said: "SSE NIF Optimizer" has cured me of this bug!! For those of us who have never used that tool, can you explain what exactly you did to fix the problem, and how it helped?
InsanityFactor Posted June 18, 2022 Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, CliftonJD said: now its been a week since then, even keeping more slaves with me than i had hasn't reproduced the problem yet, "SSE NIF Optimizer" has cured me of this bug!! I'll give it a shot, haven't actually been playing lately I was just commenting on my past experiences. I don't run into it often, just when having slaves equip too many things at once. Standard play without touching their outfits doesn't cause it, for me at least, optimizer sounds promising. Edited June 18, 2022 by InsanityFactor 1
sidfu1 Posted June 18, 2022 Posted June 18, 2022 is a specific version of gsposes needed? im asking as ive updated gs poses to newest and seems my slaves wont dance. also some of the others like act cute and such dotn seem to always work.. it worked before and these are new slaves i got after doing HSH stuff.
TrollAutokill Posted June 18, 2022 Author Posted June 18, 2022 7 hours ago, sidfu1 said: is a specific version of gsposes needed? im asking as ive updated gs poses to newest and seems my slaves wont dance. also some of the others like act cute and such dotn seem to always work.. it worked before and these are new slaves i got after doing HSH stuff. Any GSPose version should work, the plugin is not used, only the plugin name to check if it is installed. What's the plugin name in your version?
Kharos Posted June 18, 2022 Posted June 18, 2022 10 hours ago, CliftonJD said: i dunno how often you or Villianize or Gizzlembos03 come across this issue, i was getting it frequently when i answered Kalysto last week. my own response was enough to inspire me to try "SSE NIF Optimizer". i had been dealing with it long enough i even tried only keeping a few slaves with me until i saw it still could happen if i gave the slave too much armor.  now its been a week since then, even keeping more slaves with me than i had hasn't reproduced the problem yet, "SSE NIF Optimizer" has cured me of this bug!!  It happens rather rarely for me, maybe once every two hours play time?  10 hours ago, Antiope_Apollonia said: For those of us who have never used that tool, can you explain what exactly you did to fix the problem, and how it helped?  Yeah, +1, reading up this seems to be a tool that can be used to optimize nifs for SSE, so what exactly did you optimize? Did you just run it over all nifs from all mods? Or over nifs from specific mods? 1
Farsh-nuke Posted June 18, 2022 Posted June 18, 2022 41 minutes ago, Kharos said: Â It happens rather rarely for me, maybe once every two hours play time? Â Â Yeah, +1, reading up this seems to be a tool that can be used to optimize nifs for SSE, so what exactly did you optimize? Did you just run it over all nifs from all mods? Or over nifs from specific mods? I second this especially as I'm now getting eyeless followers You can see them loading in stages here Clearly I need to pare down my modlist so this is less likely to happen but I thought it wass relevant to the discussion and freaky enough people might want to see lol 1
CliftonJD Posted June 18, 2022 Posted June 18, 2022 16 hours ago, Antiope_Apollonia said: For those of us who have never used that tool, can you explain what exactly you did to fix the problem, and how it helped? Â 5 hours ago, Farsh-nuke said: I second this especially as I'm now getting eyeless followers You can see them loading in stages here Clearly I need to pare down my modlist so this is less likely to happen but I thought it wass relevant to the discussion and freaky enough people might want to see lol afaik its the default settings, but in the odd chance i adjusted the settings already, here's a screen of it: 6 hours ago, Kharos said: Â It happens rather rarely for me, maybe once every two hours play time? Â Â Yeah, +1, reading up this seems to be a tool that can be used to optimize nifs for SSE, so what exactly did you optimize? Did you just run it over all nifs from all mods? Or over nifs from specific mods? ya, i just ran it over all meshes in skyrim, but majority of mine are in the skyrim defaults. guess i should run the mo mods folder next. hadn't thought of it til you asked, but once those 2 folders have been optimized, any new mods added later should be optimized separate. if you don't get them right away, could take a while to optimize the whole group again...and i haven't the foggiest idea what in the nif's causes the bugs or if its some combined number of bugs that build up to the end result 1
sidfu1 Posted June 18, 2022 Posted June 18, 2022 7 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: Any GSPose version should work, the plugin is not used, only the plugin name to check if it is installed. What's the plugin name in your version? im on newest version esp name _GSPoses.esp what she does is when i tell her to dance sh says "why me master" and such then she just stands there. she doesnt tpose or anything. just stands there like the game cant decide on a animation to play. it use to work fine as you remember i had posted about how slaves tend to pose to much and not sandbox at all. ive ran fnis and such mutiplle times trying to see if that it and its not that. illl play around iwth it some more to see if i can figure outu what the issue is.  2
Farsh-nuke Posted June 18, 2022 Posted June 18, 2022 I might be ignorant and this is actually a feature to do with the slave personalities but I've noticed that reliably when a follower has sex with a slave the slave will stop following me so I have to tell them to follow me again. (pics and stats behind the spoiler)  Spoiler This is Barbie  This is Wenya If nothing else you can enjoy the pictures and observe the training. I love praising them. Combat is the hardest to get up. These girls were fighting the badass dragons from the brides of Alduin mod, that's a level of training most of them won't get, which is fine if this mod is effectively asking us to specialise. I can definitely see an argument for saying "These slaves are your trainers, these are your fighters, these are your whores and these are your works of art to display." that said I may be thick and if you have tips let me know
CliftonJD Posted June 18, 2022 Posted June 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Farsh-nuke said: might be ignorant and this is actually a feature to do with the slave personalities but I've noticed that reliably when a follower has sex with a slave the slave will stop following me so I have to tell them to follow me again. (pics and stats behind the spoiler) my guess is tak had to adjust that feature of hsh to give that effect to avoid bugs that can happen if the slave was following the player when a follower fucked the slave and the player went out of range or changed cells those 2 slaves have low enough resignation it might be good idea to disable that feature from hsh to avoid escapes or other issues from it 1
Kharos Posted June 19, 2022 Posted June 19, 2022 20 hours ago, CliftonJD said:  afaik its the default settings, but in the odd chance i adjusted the settings already, here's a screen of it: ya, i just ran it over all meshes in skyrim, but majority of mine are in the skyrim defaults. guess i should run the mo mods folder next. hadn't thought of it til you asked, but once those 2 folders have been optimized, any new mods added later should be optimized separate. if you don't get them right away, could take a while to optimize the whole group again...and i haven't the foggiest idea what in the nif's causes the bugs or if its some combined number of bugs that build up to the end result  My Data/meshes folder is almost empty, 6 files over all - I wonder why you have "the majority" of nifs there. I will try running it over the MO2 folder, a quick scan said that there are about 15k nif files (obviously not counting the ones that are in .bsa archives).
sidfu1 Posted June 19, 2022 Posted June 19, 2022 5 hours ago, Kharos said: Â My Data/meshes folder is almost empty, 6 files over all - I wonder why you have "the majority" of nifs there. I will try running it over the MO2 folder, a quick scan said that there are about 15k nif files (obviously not counting the ones that are in .bsa archives). do not run it over the mo2 mod folder 1
InsanityFactor Posted June 19, 2022 Posted June 19, 2022 8 hours ago, Kharos said: Â My Data/meshes folder is almost empty, 6 files over all - I wonder why you have "the majority" of nifs there. I will try running it over the MO2 folder, a quick scan said that there are about 15k nif files (obviously not counting the ones that are in .bsa archives). I ran it with the default directory but I ran it through MO. So install it with MO and add it as an executable like FNIS etc. Then it'll detect everything.Â
wulfy1 Posted June 20, 2022 Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) This has not been an obstacle to playing but I have noticed in the last few versions that my slaves never actually get credited with posing no matter what their stats are. They kneel with their hands behind their heads like you would expect, but I always get the option to punish for not posing. This may be a load order thing or possibly script lag or something, but I followed the load order shown here and it has happened on new games etc. It happens whether I have 1 or 50 slaves. Again, not a big deal, but noteworthy. This is on a full mod load with several merged mods FYI. I never really get CTDs unless I do something I know I shouldn't and I haven't noticed much if any other weird slave behavior. Freaking fantastic mod btw.  Oh, one other thing I have noticed since 2.12.2 is that my slaves take a LOT longer to fall in love when all requirements have been met. Several I have needed to short-cut using the love charm just so I could move on lol.  ~Wulf    Edited June 20, 2022 by wulfy1
Antiope_Apollonia Posted June 20, 2022 Posted June 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, wulfy1 said: They kneel with their hands behind their heads like you would expect, but I always get the option to punish for not posing. This sounds like you're probably using HSH's pose feature. You should probably disable "Give PAH slaves extra dialogue" in the HSH MCM; those functions aren't really supported in DoM. Try using DoM's native pose features under "Entertain me, slave!" 1
wulfy1 Posted June 20, 2022 Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Antiope_Apollonia said: This sounds like you're probably using HSH's pose feature. You should probably disable "Give PAH slaves extra dialogue" in the HSH MCM; those functions aren't really supported in DoM. Try using DoM's native pose features under "Entertain me, slave!" Will give that a try, thank you! I always thought that was part of DoM, but now that you mention it I remember that being from hsh. Thanks for the fast response.  Yep, that fixed the pose issue. Thanks! Edited June 20, 2022 by wulfy1
TrollAutokill Posted June 20, 2022 Author Posted June 20, 2022 6 hours ago, wulfy1 said: Will give that a try, thank you! I always thought that was part of DoM, but now that you mention it I remember that being from hsh. Thanks for the fast response.  Yep, that fixed the pose issue. Thanks! It also sound like you might have installed HSH over DoM. Always install DoM last of PAHE Aygas HSH.
wulfy1 Posted June 20, 2022 Posted June 20, 2022 2 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: It also sound like you might have installed HSH over DoM. Always install DoM last of PAHE Aygas HSH. I run MO2 and this is how I have it set-up. The right plane follows the same sequence.
TrollAutokill Posted June 20, 2022 Author Posted June 20, 2022 4 hours ago, wulfy1 said: I run MO2 and this is how I have it set-up. The right plane follows the same sequence. The personalities are included in 2 12. No need for them. Check the conflicts andake sure DoM is winning conflicts for all scripts.
wulfy1 Posted June 20, 2022 Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, TrollAutokill said: The personalities are included in 2 12. No need for them. Check the conflicts andake sure DoM is winning conflicts for all scripts. I disabled personalities and the only conflict is the settings.json in overwrite. Its a new settings file.
Jasmine92 Posted June 20, 2022 Posted June 20, 2022 6 hours ago, wulfy1 said: I run MO2 and this is how I have it set-up. The right plane follows the same sequence. Maybe it's just not visible because of the cropped image, but also suggest installing the different Voicepacks for PAH, HSH and DoM. *  * This is no self-advertisement. :D 1
CliftonJD Posted June 20, 2022 Posted June 20, 2022 On 6/19/2022 at 5:52 AM, Kharos said: Â My Data/meshes folder is almost empty, 6 files over all - I wonder why you have "the majority" of nifs there. I will try running it over the MO2 folder, a quick scan said that there are about 15k nif files (obviously not counting the ones that are in .bsa archives). i have majority of nifs in my data folder cuz i never took the time to learn to use it right away so i had tons of mods setup the old fashioned way using manual installs before i started putting newer mods in the mo2 mods folder On 6/19/2022 at 11:21 AM, sidfu1 said: do not run it over the mo2 mod folder why not
wulfy1 Posted June 20, 2022 Posted June 20, 2022 50 minutes ago, Jasmine92 said: Maybe it's just not visible because of the cropped image, but also suggest installing the different Voicepacks for PAH, HSH and DoM. *  * This is no self-advertisement. :D I'll try them again. I use headphones when I play and though the quality of those files was great imo they still had that tinge of machine vocalization, which put me off. I'll give it another shot. I appreciate the effort that was put into them but don't be offended if I cannot get past that part of their nature. 1
TrollAutokill Posted June 20, 2022 Author Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, wulfy1 said: I disabled personalities and the only conflict is the settings.json in overwrite. Its a new settings file. Well you should have a lot of conflicts coming from the script files as DoM modifiés scripts from PAHE, HSH and AYGAS. By the way are you sure you installed DoM last with HSH and AYGAS ticked so that the installer could detect them and thus placed the corresponding scripts in the DoM installation directory? Edited June 20, 2022 by TrollAutokill
wulfy1 Posted June 20, 2022 Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said: Well you should have a lot of conflicts coming from the script files as DoM modifiés scripts from PAHE, HSH and AYGAS. By the way are you sure you installed DoM last with HSH and AYGAS ticked so that the installer could detect them and thus placed the corresponding scripts in the DoM installation directory? DoM wins all the conflicts. Edited June 20, 2022 by wulfy1
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