Bosslonte Posted April 23, 2022 Posted April 23, 2022 Hello, is there any way to turn slaves/npc virgin? was curious because I've ever only found one while playing, have tried resetting their stats using sexlab but their line still say "never had oral sex" or "never had anal sex" and not the "I'm a true virgin"
CliftonJD Posted April 23, 2022 Posted April 23, 2022 6 hours ago, Villianize said: Is a behavior package togglable within the code? Â Such as if npc has behavior x disable behavior z and vice versa? the behavior package is written as an override to other behaviors so no there's no toggle 1
iShadowXXX Posted April 23, 2022 Posted April 23, 2022 Is there a way to offer your slave consentual sex as a reward? If there isn't, is this planned at all or even a good idea?
TrollAutokill Posted April 23, 2022 Author Posted April 23, 2022 6 hours ago, Bosslonte said: Hello, is there any way to turn slaves/npc virgin? was curious because I've ever only found one while playing, have tried resetting their stats using sexlab but their line still say "never had oral sex" or "never had anal sex" and not the "I'm a true virgin" Try the virginity reset spell. In console "help virgin". You might also need to make a JSON file for this NPC to force all virginities.Â
TrollAutokill Posted April 23, 2022 Author Posted April 23, 2022 1 hour ago, iShadowXXX said: Is there a way to offer your slave consentual sex as a reward? If there isn't, is this planned at all or even a good idea? It's not completely in but you can use the "Ok slave" -> "I am gonna have fun with you" dialogue for the moment.
Gukahn Posted April 23, 2022 Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Bosslonte said: Hello, is there any way to turn slaves/npc virgin? was curious because I've ever only found one while playing, have tried resetting their stats using sexlab but their line still say "never had oral sex" or "never had anal sex" and not the "I'm a true virgin" Lucky you, i haven't had the motivation to make more JSON´s and i run so often into virgins that shouldn't be virgins that it drives me nuts ?  Edit: 7 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said: Try the virginity reset spell  Could we have a similar spell that deflowers them in cases like mine? Edited April 23, 2022 by Gukahn
Antiope_Apollonia Posted April 23, 2022 Posted April 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Gukahn said: Lucky you, i haven't had the motivation to make more JSON´s and i run so often into virgins that shouldn't be virgins that it drives me nuts ? Did you get the Whiterun JSONs from the downloads page? I'm working on Riften next.  7 hours ago, Bosslonte said: Hello, is there any way to turn slaves/npc virgin? was curious because I've ever only found one while playing, have tried resetting their stats using sexlab but their line still say "never had oral sex" or "never had anal sex" and not the "I'm a true virgin" SexLab virginity and DoM virginity have nothing to do with each other. SexLab has an MCM toggle for seeding NPCs with random sexual experience stats. DoM has JSON files that govern virginity and personality. 1
Gukahn Posted April 23, 2022 Posted April 23, 2022 15 minutes ago, Antiope_Apollonia said: Did you get the Whiterun JSONs from the downloads page? I'm working on Riften next. To be absolutly honest with you, i didn't even knew you where adding JSONs and that they are uploaded.. Now that i now: Thank you very much for working on them ? Â
TrollAutokill Posted April 23, 2022 Author Posted April 23, 2022 42 minutes ago, Gukahn said: To be absolutly honest with you, i didn't even knew you where adding JSONs and that they are uploaded.. Now that i now: Thank you very much for working on them ?  They are now included in the main download since 2.9.0  If you're into non virgin spawned characters, you can create JSON files with just the virginity information. If you leave out the personality it will be generated. Otherwise all your spawned characters with the same base id will get the same personality. 1
Gukahn Posted April 23, 2022 Posted April 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said: If you're into non virgin spawned characters, you can create JSON files with just the virginity information. If you leave out the personality it will be generated. Otherwise all your spawned characters with the same base id will get the same personality. Na i don't really care for the generic npc´s as there is not much information about their background but an Npc like Astrid who is married and above 30 to be a virgin was something that made me giggle so i made a JSon just for her and a very low number of others. But thanks for the input, might be useful in the future
TrollAutokill Posted April 23, 2022 Author Posted April 23, 2022 53 minutes ago, Gukahn said: Na i don't really care for the generic npc´s as there is not much information about their background but an Npc like Astrid who is married and above 30 to be a virgin was something that made me giggle so i made a JSon just for her and a very low number of others. But thanks for the input, might be useful in the future If Astrid is married and that relationship is registered in Skyrim, then DoM would not set her as virgin. I will take special care of her during my next bug hunt.
Gukahn Posted April 23, 2022 Posted April 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said: f Astrid is married and that relationship is registered in Skyrim, then DoM would not set her as virgin. I will take special care of her during my next bug hunt. Question is IF that relationship is registered. I read sometimes that the developers often forgot to add relationships to their npc´s. Something like adult child xy wasn't registered as family member to the Parent npc´s. Can't remember anymore where and the exact npc´s but it wouldn't surprise if the same was true for astrid. Both npc´s are designed to die in vanilla so they could very well just skipped the part without losing sleep over it ? And such things aren't an issue for normal gameplay either.
DieHans Posted April 23, 2022 Posted April 23, 2022 20 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: - Fix for SLSO player orgasm event. mhh still not working for me, the counter doesn't go up.
sidfu1 Posted April 23, 2022 Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) think i may have finaly found what mod may be causing my slaves outfits to refesh after they striped. this mod. probaly when it checks the actors it cause a fresh. it comes with a spell to forbid a actor.only cadvet is that it has to be casat on them manualy ingame once. so ill see if that what it is on a longer play. my testing so far was just enslave wtih no clone strip them with DoM then wait days to see. Edited April 23, 2022 by sidfu1
TrollAutokill Posted April 23, 2022 Author Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) On 4/23/2022 at 2:34 PM, DieHans said: mhh still not working for me, the counter doesn't go up. That's because the event DoM cares about is for the slave orgasm event. During which the slave orgasm has a chance to actually happen. This chance is based on DoM and PAHE stats, and is higher if the slave is aroused (DoM arousal not SLA). Â So the slave actor orgasm event from SLSO is actually not used by DoM, because it doesn't use DoM personality and PAHE training Edited April 25, 2022 by TrollAutokill
DieHans Posted April 23, 2022 Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) Ok that logic doesn't really seem to go fully through to my brain. I suppose it's some kind of anti-cheat mechanic, tho I don't get the on player orgasm thing. In SLSO the player as well as the slave character are able to multi-orgasm (you can just see that as starting two sex events as the time for one event isn't locked anymore) and I don't quiet get why the slave should come more often when the player is more perverted. Normally (it is highly recommended that) you deactivate the auto scene advance with SLSO which makes it more a "fuck them till they come" (or you come or both) kind of mechanic. So sex can take seconds, minutes... end with both having an orgasm, just one part or none. And SLSO for that uses Sexlab stats like vaginal, anal and oral skills which are controlled by DoM as well as the SL-perversion level which is also controlled by DoM? Well and the relationship rank which is also controlled by DoM. Â In any case, I tested it with a fully trained loving slave my player came like 4 times during the testing. Which still resulted in 0 orgasms for the slave. I don't know which personality traits are important for the orgasm. Submission is 69. Edited April 23, 2022 by DieHans
TrollAutokill Posted April 23, 2022 Author Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, DieHans said: Ok that logic doesn't really seem to go fully through to my brain. I suppose it's some kind of anti-cheat mechanic, tho I don't get the on player orgasm thing. In SLSO the player as well as the slave character are able to multi-orgasm (you can just see that as starting two sex events as the time for one event isn't locked anymore) and I don't quiet get why the slave should come more often when the player is more perverted. Normally (it is highly recommended that) you deactivate the auto scene advance with SLSO which makes it more a "fuck them till they come" (or you come or both) kind of mechanic. So sex can take seconds, minutes... end with both having an orgasm, just one part or none. And SLSO for that uses Sexlab stats like vaginal, anal and oral skills which are controlled by DoM as well as the SL-perversion level which is also controlled by DoM? Well and the relationship rank which is also controlled by DoM. Â In any case, I tested it with a fully trained loving slave my player came like 4 times during the testing. Which still resulted in 0 orgasms for the slave. I don't know which personality traits are important for the orgasm. Submission is 69. The problem is SLSO orgasm events are not linked to PAHE or DoM system. In Sexlab all sex events lead to an orgasm event, which is then interpreted by DoM as a player orgasm and a chqnvlce for the slave to orgasm depending on personality and training. Â SLSO+SLA have their own interpretation on the actors orgasm and when it happens. Plus, SLSO events are generic hooks not linked to the actor, like Sexlab's. The move from Sexlab to SLSO is not at all a simple change of string, the mechanism behind them are totally different. So for the moment you got a workaround, not a full interface. Edited April 23, 2022 by TrollAutokill
CaptainTim Posted April 23, 2022 Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) Using PAHE 8.1.2 and DoM 2.9.3, when ordering a slave to "Pose for me", they respond by saying "Yes my Thane" but there's no lip movement. Something wrong with the FUZ for that line maybe? Tried different voiced NPC's and none of them move their lips. I'm pretty sure this had been going on for many versions of both PAHE and DoM. Â Also, when commanded to "Stand here" pose, it seems if they choose to stop posing they stay in the Kneeling pose and slide around on their knees. Still running tests on this to see if this is always the case. Â Just checked in PAHE MCM, slave goes into "FOLLOW_PLAYER" for current state but is in kneeling pose. Edited April 23, 2022 by CaptainTim
CliftonJD Posted April 23, 2022 Posted April 23, 2022 Â 9 minutes ago, CaptainTim said: Using PAHE 8.1.2 and DoM 2.9.3, when ordering a slave to "Pose for me", they respond by saying "Yes my Thane" but there's no lip movement. Something wrong with the FUZ for that line maybe? Tried different voiced NPC's and none of them move their lips. I'm pretty sure this had been going on for many versions of both PAHE and DoM. Â Also, when commanded to "Stand here" pose, it seems if they choose to stop posing they stay in the Kneeling pose and slide around on their knees. Still running tests on this to see if this is always the case. Â Just checked in PAHE MCM, slave goes into "FOLLOW_PLAYER" for current state but is in kneeling pose. pose for me menu is part of hsh so lip and voice of it is either part of the hsh voice files or an addon voice pack for hsh. the poses within those menus are also not part of pahe, think hsh uses fnis idles for that but not sure, either way its ability to pose or stop posing is a hsh issue. for best results you can disable hsh dialogues on pahe slaves from the hsh mcm 1
DieHans Posted April 23, 2022 Posted April 23, 2022 Well how you design your mod and if and when you integrate which features is totally up to you ofcause. Â I just wanted to say that SLSO kinda already integrates pretty well into the DoM world and doesn't really need any special treatment. The mechanism is good as is and in the end the player can decide whether he wants to play with SL always orgasm + DoM interpretation or with SLSO interpretation of orgasm events.
Kharos Posted April 23, 2022 Posted April 23, 2022 10 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: If Astrid is married and that relationship is registered in Skyrim, then DoM would not set her as virgin. I will take special care of her during my next bug hunt.  9 hours ago, Gukahn said: Question is IF that relationship is registered. I read sometimes that the developers often forgot to add relationships to their npc´s. Something like adult child xy wasn't registered as family member to the Parent npc´s. Can't remember anymore where and the exact npc´s but it wouldn't surprise if the same was true for astrid. Both npc´s are designed to die in vanilla so they could very well just skipped the part without losing sleep over it ? And such things aren't an issue for normal gameplay either.  Looking with SSEEdit, there is a relationship entry (AstridArnbjorn [RELA:00034436]) with rank "Lover" and association type "Spouse". 1
sidfu1 Posted April 23, 2022 Posted April 23, 2022 what are the best ways to keep a slave from calling for help. since you can only bag one slave at a a time it makes it hard to capture mutiple. also the bug with tghe slave in bag come out when you use a cart is back.
Gräfin Zeppelin Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 1 hour ago, sidfu1 said: what are the best ways to keep a slave from calling for help. since you can only bag one slave at a a time it makes it hard to capture mutiple. also the bug with tghe slave in bag come out when you use a cart is back. Gags 1
TrollAutokill Posted April 24, 2022 Author Posted April 24, 2022 3 hours ago, sidfu1 said: the bug with tghe slave in bag come out when you use a cart is back Describe the bug
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