devious skyrim Unforgiving Devices

[Franco Cozzo]

On 10/19/2023 at 7:08 AM, ihatemykite said:

Do you use latest version on IWantWidgetsNG ?

I believe I was, the latest download from nexus is the same that I have in my mod downloads folder so 99% sure.

[saberTech2171]

Hi, I am not too sure as to what is happening, but when I interact with any of the equipped devices, I am locked out of the inventory menu, quickbars, magic menu.  I can only interact with the device/player menu.  Even after the device has been removed, i am still locked out.

 

I can see in the log that aaControl [false........] is called, but there is nothing that will re-enable said controls.  I have to enter the command 'enableplayercontrols' each time.  I have the latest released version of this mod installed and checked that the UD_patch is loaded after this mod.  Any suggestions?

 

 

[Waveflowers]

How to activate the Little Fnishier? I set the little finisher chance to 100% and wait for a long time, but it never happen

[Zaflis]

5 hours ago, saberTech2171 said:

Hi, I am not too sure as to what is happening, but when I interact with any of the equipped devices, I am locked out of the inventory menu, quickbars, magic menu.  I can only interact with the device/player menu.  Even after the device has been removed, i am still locked out.

I'm not sure what exactly does that. I had high security arm cuffs from DCL on me and i couldn't open inventory or spellbook. But the moment i went to blacksmith and paid him to remove it my menus normalized.

 

UD was working with them by locking them together from time to time, while you can untie them they cannot be removed by player.

Edited October 25, 2023 by Zaflis

[bannedspider51]

IWW Orgasm bar hasn't been showing up for me, tried running general fixes and the orgasm reset option in the debug menu but it wont ever show up, unless i run test widgets through the mcm, but it doesn't appear after that

[Johannes01]

Sorry to ask, maybe a dump misstage by me but UD just broke before doing fine after starting a new game. Everytime equipping a DD item it says: UD Error Check Console. In COnsole there is:

 

Any Idea whats causing the issue?

 

ID have no UD_CustomDevice_equipScript

 

:EDIT: Got it solved by reviewing my load order: Devious Devices NG was the reason. UD patch should run below NG Patch and Loot did not recognize it. After putting DD patch below NG patch it works. Maybe metioning it here in der mod description as DD NG mod description has it mentioned UD patch should run after NG

Edited October 28, 2023 by Johannes01
Self-solved

[Pingu08]

Are arm and leg cuffs supposed to make my character look out of breath?

 

Ever since I installed UD 2.1 for a new playthrough my character's standing idle changes to an out of breath looking animation. is there any way to disable this in the MCM?

[Zaflis]

4 hours ago, CoolSkater said:

Are arm and leg cuffs supposed to make my character look out of breath?

 

Ever since I installed UD 2.1 for a new playthrough my character's standing idle changes to an out of breath looking animation. is there any way to disable this in the MCM?

If the leg cuffs trigger the event where the legs bind together it's same as running around with a hobble dress. It reduces your carryweight below 0. So you just need to untie it.

 

The automatic event can be disabled in MCM but where's the fun in that? ?

Edited October 31, 2023 by Zaflis

[MasterOfBeings]

I am loving the mod. I found it a bit unrealistic about how you could struggle out of some heavy bondage so I found the settings for modifying the difficulty, however I ran into issues when testing this because most armbinders are unpickable due to them requiring keys while having no key listed. It seems like all other devices are fine, just most the armbinders want to be difficult.

[Pingu08]

On 10/31/2023 at 12:41 AM, Zaflis said:

If the leg cuffs trigger the event where the legs bind together it's same as running around with a hobble dress. It reduces your carryweight below 0. So you just need to untie it.

 

The automatic event can be disabled in MCM but where's the fun in that? ?

After some testing with different devices, it looks like the idle animation is activated by many different restraints, including; harnesses, collars, cuffs and gags.

 

It is not that the carry weight or anything is affected when using the devices. I simply equip cuffs, gags or harnesses, and my character immediately bends over and starts huffing and puffing, as if she is out if breath.

 

Edit:

I did not expect this, but Sunhelm was the culprit!

 

My character was tired and that caused the animation to play while wearing a device. I do not know if UD + sunhelm is causing it or if it's DD NG + Sunhelm, as those are the only DD mods I have installed recently, but neither of these mention anything about needs/survival mods, as far as I can see.

Edited November 1, 2023 by CoolSkater

[Seph64]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but is there a way to disable the "timelock" placed on certain devices when you equip them?

[Itme_69]

Hi,
 

Spoiler

im sorry for asking this but could I get a link to what the added ingredients do and what makes what potions
I vaugely remember seeing it in a wiki maybe but I cant find it right now.
Thanks for the replies in advance.

 

[barumpa]

On 2/6/2023 at 9:55 PM, Herowynne said:

When I try to unlock any item, I get a message saying "You are already doing something" but as far as I can tell I am not doing anything.

 

Is there a way to reset that condition so that I can unlock items?

 

EDIT: The problem went away after saving, exiting the game, restarting the game, and loading the save.

 

 

having this exact problem, started happening after some point in laura questline, problem is it comes back even after restarting

[Herowynne]

4 hours ago, barumpa said:

having this exact problem, started happening after some point in laura questline, problem is it comes back even after restarting

I did have a problem at some point with a UD patch for Laura’s Bondage Shop. The patch was outdated and broke parts of the LBS quest in Embershard Mine. After removing the patch, LBS started working okay for me.

 

 

Edited November 3, 2023 by Herowynne

[johntrine]

@ihatemykite i had the issue that the menu kept saying updating/disabled and the whole thread had only 1 helpful pointer. i am here to share what it is and how i fixed my issue.

1) it happened to me due to that fact that i saved the game before i got the "unforgiving devices is ready" popup. you might wanna add 'no saving until you get the popup' to the front page.

2) i used fallrim resaver to deleted all files related to this mod and devious devices and relaunched the game. it worked. a new save should work too.

 

edit- i suggest new save.

Edited November 3, 2023 by johntrine

[Zaflis]

So i guess i'll use this thread to raise a bit of awareness of how XPMSE.ESP is a terrible thing to have in load order... Tens of thousands of scripts in the save and papyrus eventually slowed to a crawl, zoning through doors slowed down significantly and possibly a lot more issues:

 

 

The developer has pretty much locked themselves out of any feedback.

 

That said i don't think there's anything wrong with the XPMSE skeleton itself, just don't use the ESP. And since this was the heaviest mod that i have aside from DD that relates to character animations. I have no mods that would change combat specifically.

Edited November 3, 2023 by Zaflis

[Zaflis]

Also there seems to be an incompatibility with Captured Dreams, its quests can't remove some items:

 

Spoiler

[11/05/2023 - 01:47:40AM] Error: Cannot place a None object
stack:
    [ (00000014)].Actor.PlaceAtMe() - "<native>" Line ?
    [zadQuest (0D00F624)].zadlibs.GetRenderedDevice() - "zadLibs.psc" Line 857
    [zadQuest (0D00F624)].zadlibs_UDPatch.GetRenderedDevice() - "zadlibs_UDPatch.psc" Line 860
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDDev() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 591
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDItems() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 625
    [CDxPackageDelivery (67117012)].cdxpackagedelivery.Fragment_30() - "cdxpackagedelivery.psc" Line 306
[11/05/2023 - 01:47:40AM] [Zad] ((WARNING)): GetRenderedDevice received non DD argument.
[11/05/2023 - 01:47:40AM] Error: Cannot call Delete() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [zadQuest (0D00F624)].zadlibs.GetRenderedDevice() - "zadLibs.psc" Line 864
    [zadQuest (0D00F624)].zadlibs_UDPatch.GetRenderedDevice() - "zadlibs_UDPatch.psc" Line 860
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDDev() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 591
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDItems() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 625
    [CDxPackageDelivery (67117012)].cdxpackagedelivery.Fragment_30() - "cdxpackagedelivery.psc" Line 306
[11/05/2023 - 01:47:40AM] Error: Cannot call HasKeyword() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDDev() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 593
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDItems() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 625
    [CDxPackageDelivery (67117012)].cdxpackagedelivery.Fragment_30() - "cdxpackagedelivery.psc" Line 306
[11/05/2023 - 01:47:40AM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp31"
stack:
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDDev() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 593
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDItems() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 625
    [CDxPackageDelivery (67117012)].cdxpackagedelivery.Fragment_30() - "cdxpackagedelivery.psc" Line 306
[11/05/2023 - 01:47:40AM] Error: Cannot call HasKeyword() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDDev() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 593
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDItems() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 625
    [CDxPackageDelivery (67117012)].cdxpackagedelivery.Fragment_30() - "cdxpackagedelivery.psc" Line 306
[11/05/2023 - 01:47:40AM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp30"
stack:
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDDev() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 593
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDItems() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 625
    [CDxPackageDelivery (67117012)].cdxpackagedelivery.Fragment_30() - "cdxpackagedelivery.psc" Line 306
[11/05/2023 - 01:47:40AM] Error: Cannot call HasKeyword() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDDev() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 595
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDItems() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 625
    [CDxPackageDelivery (67117012)].cdxpackagedelivery.Fragment_30() - "cdxpackagedelivery.psc" Line 306
[11/05/2023 - 01:47:40AM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp26"
stack:
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDDev() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 595
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDItems() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 625
    [CDxPackageDelivery (67117012)].cdxpackagedelivery.Fragment_30() - "cdxpackagedelivery.psc" Line 306
[11/05/2023 - 01:47:40AM] Error: Cannot call HasKeyword() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [zadQuest (0D00F624)].zadlibs_UDPatch.GetRenderedDevice() - "zadlibs_UDPatch.psc" Line 851
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDDev() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 591
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDItems() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 630
    [CDxPackageDelivery (67117012)].cdxpackagedelivery.Fragment_30() - "cdxpackagedelivery.psc" Line 306
[11/05/2023 - 01:47:40AM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp191"
stack:
    [zadQuest (0D00F624)].zadlibs_UDPatch.GetRenderedDevice() - "zadlibs_UDPatch.psc" Line 851
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDDev() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 591
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDItems() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 630
    [CDxPackageDelivery (67117012)].cdxpackagedelivery.Fragment_30() - "cdxpackagedelivery.psc" Line 306
[11/05/2023 - 01:47:40AM] Error: Cannot place a None object
stack:
    [ (00000014)].Actor.PlaceAtMe() - "<native>" Line ?
    [zadQuest (0D00F624)].zadlibs.GetRenderedDevice() - "zadLibs.psc" Line 857
    [zadQuest (0D00F624)].zadlibs_UDPatch.GetRenderedDevice() - "zadlibs_UDPatch.psc" Line 860
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDDev() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 591
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDItems() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 630
    [CDxPackageDelivery (67117012)].cdxpackagedelivery.Fragment_30() - "cdxpackagedelivery.psc" Line 306
[11/05/2023 - 01:47:40AM] [Zad] ((WARNING)): GetRenderedDevice received non DD argument.
[11/05/2023 - 01:47:40AM] Error: Cannot call Delete() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [zadQuest (0D00F624)].zadlibs.GetRenderedDevice() - "zadLibs.psc" Line 864
    [zadQuest (0D00F624)].zadlibs_UDPatch.GetRenderedDevice() - "zadlibs_UDPatch.psc" Line 860
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDDev() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 591
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDItems() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 630
    [CDxPackageDelivery (67117012)].cdxpackagedelivery.Fragment_30() - "cdxpackagedelivery.psc" Line 306
[11/05/2023 - 01:47:40AM] Error: Cannot call HasKeyword() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDDev() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 593
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDItems() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 630
    [CDxPackageDelivery (67117012)].cdxpackagedelivery.Fragment_30() - "cdxpackagedelivery.psc" Line 306
[11/05/2023 - 01:47:40AM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp31"
stack:
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDDev() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 593
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDItems() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 630
    [CDxPackageDelivery (67117012)].cdxpackagedelivery.Fragment_30() - "cdxpackagedelivery.psc" Line 306
[11/05/2023 - 01:47:40AM] Error: Cannot call HasKeyword() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDDev() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 593
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDItems() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 630
    [CDxPackageDelivery (67117012)].cdxpackagedelivery.Fragment_30() - "cdxpackagedelivery.psc" Line 306
[11/05/2023 - 01:47:40AM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp30"
stack:
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDDev() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 593
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDItems() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 630
    [CDxPackageDelivery (67117012)].cdxpackagedelivery.Fragment_30() - "cdxpackagedelivery.psc" Line 306
[11/05/2023 - 01:47:40AM] Error: Cannot call HasKeyword() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDDev() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 595
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDItems() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 630
    [CDxPackageDelivery (67117012)].cdxpackagedelivery.Fragment_30() - "cdxpackagedelivery.psc" Line 306
[11/05/2023 - 01:47:40AM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp26"
stack:
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDDev() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 595
    [CDxSlavery_Functions (6717170A)].cdxslavery_functions.RemoveCDItems() - "cdxslavery_functions.psc" Line 630
    [CDxPackageDelivery (67117012)].cdxpackagedelivery.Fragment_30() - "cdxpackagedelivery.psc" Line 306

 

I have its SE version like so:

 

Mod here: https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/27720-captured-dreams-resored-june-23-2023/

 

You can remove them from the DD's MCM Debug menu which will take of all even quest items. DCL's universal key for example does not work for them.

Edited November 5, 2023 by Zaflis

[kurotatsu]

I'd say it's problem on CD side, it wasn't completely adapted to DD4, let alone DD5...

[barumpa]

On 11/3/2023 at 5:33 AM, Herowynne said:

I did have a problem at some point with a UD patch for Laura’s Bondage Shop. The patch was outdated and broke parts of the LBS quest in Embershard Mine. After removing the patch, LBS started working okay for me.

 

 

Apparently the quest was marking me as in a scene even though it was a talk to me when you are ready kind of situation, fixed when the quest was cleared. Thanks for the help

[Zaflis]

I have some issues in starting for example plug removing due error about being too exhausted. I don't have UD's exhausted debuff but they are from other mods like Corruption. Aside from plugs it also happens with magic struggle at least. I feel like it should be up to player to judge when she is too exhausted, easily noticeable when the bar will just empty quickly if attempted. But my character is nowhere near that exhausted.

 

Edit: LL can't upload images right now, but it would have shown skills UI with Magicka 110/110 and stamina 100/100.

 

Edited November 11, 2023 by Zaflis

[kurotatsu]

51 minutes ago, Zaflis said:

I have some issues in starting for example plug removing due error about being too exhausted. I don't have UD's exhausted debuff but they are from other mods like Corruption. Aside from plugs it also happens with magic struggle at least. I feel like it should be up to player to judge when she is too exhausted, easily noticeable when the bar will just empty quickly if attempted. But my character is nowhere near that exhausted.

 

Edit: LL can't upload images right now, but it would have shown skills UI with Magicka 110/110 and stamina 100/100.

 

 

Your character could be orgasmed out of her mind, 6 exhaustions will make unable to struggle with default settings.

[Zaflis]

38 minutes ago, kurotatsu said:

Your character could be orgasmed out of her mind, 6 exhaustions will make unable to struggle with default settings.

No the debuff list at top right was empty, i would also see it with the iWantWidgets HUD if there were any exhaustions.

 

So currently the only workaround to remove a plug is to somehow satisfy the addictions to reduce debuffs. It's not a great solution though if they cannot be satisfied maybe because of DD's.

Edited November 11, 2023 by Zaflis

[voberon13]

Hello. Got a few questions:

1)I noticed that my PC does zero damage in a brawl, and this is the only new mod i use in my current load. Just wanna know if this mod does something to unarmed damaged under certain conditions or is it just me breaking it somehow.

2)This is probably the dumb one but... How exactly unlocking devices with keys work now? xD I simply waste stamina on one of the locks and nothing happens. Struggling is actually easier ?

[kurotatsu]

2 hours ago, voberon13 said:

2)This is probably the dumb one but... How exactly unlocking devices with keys work now? xD I simply waste stamina on one of the locks and nothing happens. Struggling is actually easier ?

 

To unlock with key you need to hit crit while in minigame. Crits are indicated by whole body flashing green or blue. While it flashes - you press D for green or A when blue.

If you fail to hit crits, hit them while not flashing - you can break keys and/or jam locks.

[Neriyae]

Hello, got 2 questions.

1) Is there some kind of way to permanently disable different modifiers or change the chance that they appear on different devices?

For example change the chance that for instance devices with the sentient modifer appear/ not appear.

2) This one probably doesnt exist, but is there a way to change the amount of time that vibrators can be active, noticed that the grand variants can be active for up to or more than 10 minutes real time at once, which seems kinda long I think.