AAF Family Planning Enhanced Redux

[IBAGadget]

1 hour ago, travelmedic said:

There's nothing in this mod or WDF or AAF AE (all recently updated) that might cause the player to be flagged as essential is there?

 

The reason I ask - I just updated a bunch of mods (including those three) to be able to start a new game.  Now when I'm in combat, where I would normally get killed, I instead go into a bleedout state for a few seconds, some enemies will continue to attack (based on proximity) and some will just walk away.  Then I'll exit bleedout but still be very weak/injured, and often stuck in sneak mode.

 

 

Thanks everybody.

AAF is just the framework that allows animations to play. What mods do you have that actually trigger the animations? What animation packs do you have installed?

Do you have mods like Violate, Sexual Harassment, Sex Em Up, Raider Pet.....etc installed? 

 

Some of the mods that utilize the Advanced Animation Framework have options in them that prevent you character from dying, and instead allow you to be captured or enslaved. 

 

And AE is a Skyrim thing. FO4 doesn't have an AE (Anniversary Edition)

[lee3310]

2 hours ago, travelmedic said:

There's nothing in this mod or WDF or AAF AE (all recently updated) that might cause the player to be flagged as essential is there?

 

The reason I ask - I just updated a bunch of mods (including those three) to be able to start a new game.  Now when I'm in combat, where I would normally get killed, I instead go into a bleedout state for a few seconds, some enemies will continue to attack (based on proximity) and some will just walk away.  Then I'll exit bleedout but still be very weak/injured, and often stuck in sneak mode.

 

I looked in xEdit, and there's nothing that directly edits the Player record.  I also looked at the perks, and don't see a likely culprit there, although it's giving me credit for having found a couple of magazines that I haven't found yet???

 

I use MO2, I'm going to go back and double check to make sure the Overwrite folder is empty to make sure nothing is left from the last game, but if that doesn't work I'm kind of at a loss.  With as many mods as I have, I don't want to have to resort to the 50/50 method if I can avoid it, so that's why I'm asking on pages of updated mods.

 

Thanks everybody.

Ego added that feature (essential player) recently in "AAF Violate"  so check its MCM.

Edited September 7, 2022 by lee3310

[travelmedic]

I don't have Violate installed anymore, and totally deleted the contents of the Overwrite folder in MO2, so it's not likely that.  Never had Raider Pet or Sexual Harassment installed ever.

 

AE is also in FO4 - Autonomy Enhanced.

 

Been through the MCM for all of my installed mods and can't find anything.  I do have Advanced Needs 76, and that does have some kind of bleeding feature, but I have never activated it in game since installing it.  None of the other needs features are affecting me either.

[lee3310]

18 minutes ago, travelmedic said:

I don't have Violate installed anymore, and totally deleted the contents of the Overwrite folder in MO2, so it's not likely that.  Never had Raider Pet or Sexual Harassment installed ever.

 

AE is also in FO4 - Autonomy Enhanced.

 

Been through the MCM for all of my installed mods and can't find anything.  I do have Advanced Needs 76, and that does have some kind of bleeding feature, but I have never activated it in game since installing it.  None of the other needs features are affecting me either.

Can't think of any thing else except when you enter bleedout state, open console select yourself (player ref) then tap "SV", scroll up to check all the scripts applied to your character then proceed by elimination.  

Edited September 7, 2022 by lee3310

[Invictusblade]

well, I was hoping for a break but bugs are ever present so I am moving on the next versions

 

FPE = General Cleanup thanks to Sthan (I removed the rest of the failed waterbreaking scripts(I thought I already did that))

WDF = Script fixes, Milkmaid mechanic(not sure if it will work), and cannot remember what else

ROF = moved to aid object instead of armors (because of issues with other mods)

 

 

On 9/6/2022 at 1:32 AM, lichongjiu said:

 

 

   When I became pregnant for the second time, the "Unplanned Parenthood" Quest didn't trigger .

   And my belly is going to get really really big .

   My belly is as big as a mountain now, it's looks so scary !

  (Sorry, my English is not good)

see Sthan's post,

in one of the next updates, I will add more debug messages for papyrus which should help narrow things down.

 

also what is your morph settings and how many children?

On 9/6/2022 at 8:53 PM, Garagulu said:

still getting this, even after the update

create the cleaner via chemtable and use it on yourself

 

10 hours ago, Afrodeeziac said:

Can't seem to find the milk production item from vault 81 after about 30 laps around the clinic. I did find the semen production item, however.

Also, is the magazine for the milking technology supposed to be in the clinic or is it hidden elsewhere?

Thanks. 

If Invictus happens to read this, thank you for your hard work and awesome mod!!

there is a few different locations in v81 (I cannot remember the exact location) try the following

1. overseer office/bedroom

2. one of the bedrooms

3. the food lab (where the corn is(whatever))

4. medical clinic (maybe in one of the storage rooms)

 

10 hours ago, travelmedic said:

There's nothing in this mod or WDF or AAF AE (all recently updated) that might cause the player to be flagged as essential is there?

 

The reason I ask - I just updated a bunch of mods (including those three) to be able to start a new game.  Now when I'm in combat, where I would normally get killed, I instead go into a bleedout state for a few seconds, some enemies will continue to attack (based on proximity) and some will just walk away.  Then I'll exit bleedout but still be very weak/injured, and often stuck in sneak mode.

 

I looked in xEdit, and there's nothing that directly edits the Player record.  I also looked at the perks, and don't see a likely culprit there, although it's giving me credit for having found a couple of magazines that I haven't found yet???

 

I use MO2, I'm going to go back and double check to make sure the Overwrite folder is empty to make sure nothing is left from the last game, but if that doesn't work I'm kind of at a loss.  With as many mods as I have, I don't want to have to resort to the 50/50 method if I can avoid it, so that's why I'm asking on pages of updated mods.

 

Thanks everybody.

not sure, I am still trying to work out why the player sometimes goes into ghost mode (I do have a command to turn that off)

*no idea if my mod or someone elses mod does the ghost thing.

 

9 hours ago, erynyes said:

well AAF violate was recently updated with a bleedout surrender state, it's configurable in violate MCM though, altough the sneak mode you mention never happened to me.

I must admit that I am not up to date with my adult mods, so I don't actually know (there is issues between FPE and Violate, (Cumflation not working, No idea why))

 

9 hours ago, travelmedic said:

 

I did have Violate installed in the last game and it wasn't for me, one of the reasons I'm starting over.  MO2 should remove it cleanly but again, maybe something got left in the Overwrite folder.

it is possible, Fallout 4 does some weird stuff sometimes.

 

8 hours ago, IBAGadget said:

AAF is just the framework that allows animations to play. What mods do you have that actually trigger the animations? What animation packs do you have installed?

Do you have mods like Violate, Sexual Harassment, Sex Em Up, Raider Pet.....etc installed? 

 

Some of the mods that utilize the Advanced Animation Framework have options in them that prevent you character from dying, and instead allow you to be captured or enslaved. 

 

And AE is a Skyrim thing. FO4 doesn't have an AE (Anniversary Edition)

7 hours ago, travelmedic said:

I don't have Violate installed anymore, and totally deleted the contents of the Overwrite folder in MO2, so it's not likely that.  Never had Raider Pet or Sexual Harassment installed ever.

 

AE is also in FO4 - Autonomy Enhanced.

 

Been through the MCM for all of my installed mods and can't find anything.  I do have Advanced Needs 76, and that does have some kind of bleeding feature, but I have never activated it in game since installing it.  None of the other needs features are affecting me either.

well one of the problems with language is that we make assumptions and nicknames.

and I have made a number of mods with initials (FPE, AE, WDF, ROF, and these are the modern ones) *btw I know that using INVB_ is an ego move but it means to me that I can easily find them.

 

7 hours ago, lee3310 said:

Can't think of any thing else except when you enter bleedout state, open console select yourself (player ref) then tap "SV", scroll up to check all the scripts applied to your character then proceed by elimination.  

 

[lichongjiu]

12 hours ago, Sthan Dust said:

Evening.  I've had this issue way back.  Make sure you aren't using other mods that do morphing.  

You can always reset the morphs in the Debug [5] Page of FPER.  This is a collision with other mods, like Sex Attributes, or Sexual Harassment.

 

Only set one mod to control the same nodes on your body.  FPER and WLD offer options for the proper nodes to choose.

 

Also make sure you have the right mods installed according to the CBBE Fusion Girl reqs as defined by AAF reqs.  Good luck!

 

   I don't think this is a bug caused by mod collision.

  Because I uninstalled the Sex Attribute, But my belly is still very large. Then I reset morph, and the belly size becomes normal.

  But after a few minutes, it's become very large again. I have to reset the morph every few minutes, it's so annoying

  By the way, there is another Bug: I can't trigger the "unplanned parenthood" Quest after my second pregnancy.

  And doctors don't have pregnancy-related dialogue, So I can only use contraceptive pill to have an abortion

  Yesterday I asked for help in another Chinese forum and I found that a lot of people have this bug too

[Afrodeeziac]

visited the forum for another reason but I experienced this bug as well: "I can't trigger the "unplanned parenthood" Quest after my second pregnancy.

  And doctors don't have pregnancy-related dialogue"

[Sthan Dust]

5 hours ago, lichongjiu said:

 

   I don't think this is a bug caused by mod collision.

  Because I uninstalled the Sex Attribute, But my belly is still very large. Then I reset morph, and the belly size becomes normal.

  But after a few minutes, it's become very large again. I have to reset the morph every few minutes, it's so annoying

  By the way, there is another Bug: I can't trigger the "unplanned parenthood" Quest after my second pregnancy.

  And doctors don't have pregnancy-related dialogue, So I can only use contraceptive pill to have an abortion

The dialogue options sometimes go away if another mod has a conflicting dialogue.  They generally will offer their services when you are walking by and pregnant.

5 hours ago, lichongjiu said:

  Yesterday I asked for help in another Chinese forum and I found that a lot of people have this bug too

Did you by any chance use body slide or looks menu to adjust your body while pregnant?  

Did you have Sex Attributes Morphing turned on at the same time as FPER Morphing?

You can Abort any pregnancy using the Debug Options in FPER.  Hit "Abort Pregnancy" then close MCM.  Should fade to black and the pregnancy will end.

[travelmedic]

On 9/6/2022 at 9:03 PM, travelmedic said:

There's nothing in this mod or WDF or AAF AE (all recently updated) that might cause the player to be flagged as essential is there?

 

The reason I ask - I just updated a bunch of mods (including those three) to be able to start a new game.  Now when I'm in combat, where I would normally get killed, I instead go into a bleedout state for a few seconds, some enemies will continue to attack (based on proximity) and some will just walk away.  Then I'll exit bleedout but still be very weak/injured, and often stuck in sneak mode.

 

I looked in xEdit, and there's nothing that directly edits the Player record.  I also looked at the perks, and don't see a likely culprit there, although it's giving me credit for having found a couple of magazines that I haven't found yet???

 

I use MO2, I'm going to go back and double check to make sure the Overwrite folder is empty to make sure nothing is left from the last game, but if that doesn't work I'm kind of at a loss.  With as many mods as I have, I don't want to have to resort to the 50/50 method if I can avoid it, so that's why I'm asking on pages of updated mods.

 

Thanks everybody.

 

So after a lot of testing and eliminating mods a few at a time, it turns out it was NOT this mod or WDF, or Autonomy Enhanced, or any other mod from LL that was causing me to go into bleedout.  It was a mod from Nexus, and when I went back to that mod page two other people have also reported the same issue after a recent update.  Thankfully that mod author is pretty responsive and has already promised to look into the issue.

 

My apologies for questioning the mod - I was trying to look at a lot of mods and possibilities in a short time, and this mod had some recent major changes.  Also, thanks to everyone who offered advice and assistance.

[IBAGadget]

1 hour ago, travelmedic said:

 

So after a lot of testing and eliminating mods a few at a time, it turns out it was NOT this mod or WDF, or Autonomy Enhanced, or any other mod from LL that was causing me to go into bleedout.  It was a mod from Nexus, and when I went back to that mod page two other people have also reported the same issue after a recent update.  Thankfully that mod author is pretty responsive and has already promised to look into the issue.

 

My apologies for questioning the mod - I was trying to look at a lot of mods and possibilities in a short time, and this mod had some recent major changes.  Also, thanks to everyone who offered advice and assistance.

For reference sake, what mod was it?

[travelmedic]

1 hour ago, IBAGadget said:

For reference sake, what mod was it?

 

The mod in question is Enjoy Yourself - Unlimited Created Clones  That mod author has a bunch of really neat small mods that I really enjoy, and seems to do a good job of pushing out updates when needed.  I'm pretty confident that they will find a fix for it.

 

I have it with the thought that I could set aside one settlement and make a bunch of clones to use all of the face presets that I've downloaded over the years.

[pussy_destroyer203]

Hi, im having a problem rn where i think im having perks that i shouldnt have, for example i got "post partum" after a while of not being pregnate, pretty much in game weeks, and since i have that perk im unable to get pregnate, also got "amazon bubble" wich im not sure if i should have it if im note pregnate, got (old)xx012357 to replace and same perk with xx01235b id, wich i have no clue what they are, do i have to manually get rid of those perks with console commands or what? if thats the case i need the id of the perks i dont know how to get them

[Invictusblade]

7 hours ago, pussy_destroyer203 said:

Hi, im having a problem rn where i think im having perks that i shouldnt have, for example i got "post partum" after a while of not being pregnate, pretty much in game weeks, and since i have that perk im unable to get pregnate, also got "amazon bubble" wich im not sure if i should have it if im note pregnate, got (old)xx012357 to replace and same perk with xx01235b id, wich i have no clue what they are, do i have to manually get rid of those perks with console commands or what? if thats the case i need the id of the perks i dont know how to get them

so craft a cleaner from the chemtable and use it (Cleaner FPE/WDF/)

it should remove the problem perks and update the lavctation perks

 

[Adapt1973]

Does ZBG effect body morphs with FPER and WDF? Having trouble with flat belly at 5 months prego. I tried using the debug options to force it to reset and also force it to the 5 month stage with no effect. It happened once starting a new game with FPER and WLD enabled in MO2, Then I made a new game with them both disabled, while I let ZBG morph the maps NPCs, then enabled FPER and WLD, Then I enabled the mods after.  Same result. I see NPCs with large full term belly's though.

 

[Adapt1973]

I got it working, I used the stop and start options in FPER and WDF.

All good now.

[rilieAP]

On 9/7/2022 at 1:58 PM, Sthan Dust said:

The dialogue options sometimes go away if another mod has a conflicting dialogue.  They generally will offer their services when you are walking by and pregnant.

On 9/7/2022 at 8:20 AM, lichongjiu said:

  Yesterday I asked for help in another Chinese forum and I found that a lot of people have this bug too

Did you by any chance use body slide or looks menu to adjust your body while pregnant?  

Did you have Sex Attributes Morphing turned on at the same time as FPER Morphing?

You can Abort any pregnancy using the Debug Options in FPER.  Hit "Abort Pregnancy" then close MCM.  Should fade to black and the pregnancy will end.

I've been reporting this issue for about since the upgrade from 3.8, it might have happened earlier, I can't remember for sure.  I've run with all other mods(SA & SH) morphs off and on, it doesn't matter. 

 

On pregnancies beyond the first for my player, the morphs explode in size.  I can do a morph reset but they revert back to broken in a minute or so. Doctors do not recognize you are pregnant but they do the first time. 

 

If you are having a creature with a longer than 9 month gestation after month 9, 'The Father" quest or a message appears saying the father is dead or a deadbeat pops.  The abortion quest starts and immediately fails since you are beyond the 4 month abortion period and doctors once again talk to you and provide healing services and "The Beauty of Life" quest properly initiates at the right time and a doctor will help birth the child.

 

If you are having a creature with a less than 9 month gestation period the morphs once again go crazy, but depending on the length may not get too out of hand, if short enough. Regardless you look like 9 months at 4.  The doctors do not ever recognize you are pregnant and the abortion and father quest never start.  "The Beauty of Life" kicks off at the right time & you can go to the doctor, but there is a good chance you won't get there since you kinda have no idea when the quest might kick off.  So you can easily get to the "it's too late" and just have the baby wherever you are.

 

To me it feels like the it tags the morphs as an advanced pregnancy, but the timers of a normal one so at 4 months when you're supposed to be barely showing you're already morphed to 9 months, and then just keep getting bigger.  That doesn't explain the doctors ignoring you, but that's just my two cents from observing the same behavior and reporting it for months.

 

@Invictusblade I'm more than happy to kick off a brand new game and do any testing needed to figure this out.  Please let me know exactly what you need apart from a Papyrus log. If you want me to test with any types of creatures or whatever I can, just tell me how you want it done, what steps or options you wan to see done(like IVF or anything), etc.  I'll help however I can to try and  solve this, because this is my one major-ish bug in my entire install now with 400+ plugins.  So if we can figure it out with my extensive LL mods blend, it should work for just about anyone! (well maybe)

 

Edit -I'm 99.9% sure this was happening before Zex-ZBG was released, but that shouldn't effect the PC.  I also know not to touch Bodyslide sliders during a pregnancy, I only try the morph reset in FPER MCM.

Edited September 9, 2022 by RileyAP

[Invictusblade]

On 9/9/2022 at 11:30 PM, RileyAP said:

I've been reporting this issue for about since the upgrade from 3.8, it might have happened earlier, I can't remember for sure.  I've run with all other mods(SA & SH) morphs off and on, it doesn't matter. 

 

On pregnancies beyond the first for my player, the morphs explode in size.  I can do a morph reset but they revert back to broken in a minute or so. Doctors do not recognize you are pregnant but they do the first time. 

 

If you are having a creature with a longer than 9 month gestation after month 9, 'The Father" quest or a message appears saying the father is dead or a deadbeat pops.  The abortion quest starts and immediately fails since you are beyond the 4 month abortion period and doctors once again talk to you and provide healing services and "The Beauty of Life" quest properly initiates at the right time and a doctor will help birth the child.

 

If you are having a creature with a less than 9 month gestation period the morphs once again go crazy, but depending on the length may not get too out of hand, if short enough. Regardless you look like 9 months at 4.  The doctors do not ever recognize you are pregnant and the abortion and father quest never start.  "The Beauty of Life" kicks off at the right time & you can go to the doctor, but there is a good chance you won't get there since you kinda have no idea when the quest might kick off.  So you can easily get to the "it's too late" and just have the baby wherever you are.

 

To me it feels like the it tags the morphs as an advanced pregnancy, but the timers of a normal one so at 4 months when you're supposed to be barely showing you're already morphed to 9 months, and then just keep getting bigger.  That doesn't explain the doctors ignoring you, but that's just my two cents from observing the same behavior and reporting it for months.

 

@Invictusblade I'm more than happy to kick off a brand new game and do any testing needed to figure this out.  Please let me know exactly what you need apart from a Papyrus log. If you want me to test with any types of creatures or whatever I can, just tell me how you want it done, what steps or options you wan to see done(like IVF or anything), etc.  I'll help however I can to try and  solve this, because this is my one major-ish bug in my entire install now with 400+ plugins.  So if we can figure it out with my extensive LL mods blend, it should work for just about anyone! (well maybe)

 

Edit -I'm 99.9% sure this was happening before Zex-ZBG was released, but that shouldn't effect the PC.  I also know not to touch Bodyslide sliders during a pregnancy, I only try the morph reset in FPER MCM.

for the upcoming version, I will be adding debug messages in the scripts to get data from it so wait until then.

 

[rilieAP]

30 minutes ago, Invictusblade said:

for the upcoming version, I will be adding debug messages in the scripts to get data from it so wait until then.

Ok, just tag me if you want me to test anything or get you any info on my setup.  I know you'll need plugins and papyrus logs, but I'll of course wait until a new version to do that so it's current.

[leolong]

I am only getting some of the slaves and IVY (new mod companion) to successfully give birth to live babies or dead ones but all my 3 other female companions only get pregnant and give birth to nothing at all , so was some of the slaves, its pretty strange and I think I should get the setting right but somehow its buggy.

[Hotmud9]

Constantly getting an issue of it not loading because it says I'm missing a requirement. Could someone help me out with this?

[IBAGadget]

44 minutes ago, Hotmud9 said:

Constantly getting an issue of it not loading because it says I'm missing a requirement. Could someone help me out with this?

What requirement does it say you are missing?

 

Do you have SPID (Spell Perk Item Distributor) installed, along with its prerequisite, Baka Framework?

 

SPID is now a requirement for FPE and WDF.

[Hotmud9]

1 hour ago, IBAGadget said:

What requirement does it say you are missing?

 

Do you have SPID (Spell Perk Item Distributor) installed, along with its prerequisite, Baka Framework?

 

SPID is now a requirement for FPE and WDF.

It doesn't mention which mod I'm missing, which is the irritating part.
It just says "This mod cannot be installed since it depends on files that aren't present.".

Edited September 13, 2022 by Hotmud9

[IBAGadget]

24 minutes ago, Hotmud9 said:

It doesn't mention which mod I'm missing, which is the irritating part.
It just says "This mod cannot be installed since it depends on files that aren't present.".

Do you have a full, functioning AAF install?

Do you have SPID installed?

Do you have Baka Framework (prerequisite for SPID)

Do you have Looksmenu?

 

Looksmenu and AAF are listed as requirements for this mod on the mod page.

Invictusblade has also said in this thread (although I'm not sure the mod page has been updated) that SPID is also required for the latest version.

Edited September 13, 2022 by IBAGadget

[travelmedic]

11 hours ago, Hotmud9 said:

It doesn't mention which mod I'm missing, which is the irritating part.
It just says "This mod cannot be installed since it depends on files that aren't present.".

 

What mod manager are you using?  Your mod manager will probably tell you somewhere what's missing.

 

For example, on MO2, in the right pane, if you hover over the FPE esp file, you'll get a popup window that will show missing and enabled masters.

[lee3310]

15 minutes ago, travelmedic said:

 

What mod manager are you using?  Your mod manager will probably tell you somewhere what's missing.

 

For example, on MO2, in the right pane, if you hover over the FPE esp file, you'll get a popup window that will show missing and enabled masters.

Same for Vortex (it gives the missing esp's name)