TAWOBAE - TAWOBA Extended

[FauxFurry]

On 10/14/2023 at 12:06 AM, majorfreak said:

okay, no offense intended. Do i need this mod if i'm not interested in himbo? 

 

I have the impression that himbo isn't some iteration on SOS (ie that the former is better than the latter), and i also have the impression that this mod probably isn't for me if i'm using female protagonists and don't really care about how the males appear ingame.

 

I installed this mod because i figured this version of TAWOBA(E) was the most up to date. I'm starting to wonder if i'm bloating my game with a mod that is redundant for my playstyle.

Since this was not answered directly: HIMBO is an SOS derivative body which can be customized to one's choosing. It can even use the same skin replacers that SOS bodies use. The biggest change is the leg seams. It is to SOS bodies what BHUNP is to UNP and The New Gentleman is to HIMBO what BBHUNP is to BHUNP (or what 3BA is to CBBE).

There is little reason to use the default SOS body when one can replace it with either HIMBO or The New Gentleman (which is a further evolution from HIMBO).

[HornyNerdBird]

Ok so this mod will work with Himbo/The New Gentlemen right? I decided to switch to Himbo/The New Gentlemen because SOS was getting more & more annoying to work with. I originally uninstalled this mod because it was missing masters on Vortex but that was before I installed Himbo & just had The New Gentlemen. 

[monty359]

7 hours ago, PhoenixFlyer324650 said:

Ok so this mod will work with Himbo/The New Gentlemen right? I decided to switch to Himbo/The New Gentlemen because SOS was getting more & more annoying to work with. I originally uninstalled this mod because it was missing masters on Vortex but that was before I installed Himbo & just had The New Gentlemen. 

 

This mod works with HIMBO 4, I am working on the update to HIMBO 5 (current version adds some new sliders). 

 

I do not use TNG yet, some of the features of SOS are still not there, but the creator works on it. From what i have seen, TAWOBAE should work with TNG. I expect for some male thongs more or less severe clipping, because the penis shapes have changed and new sliders are not implemented yet. I plan to switch to TNG, when some more features are implemented.

 

Another problem could be, that TAWOBAE has SOS as master for the keywords. I do not know, if it is possible to make SOS as dummy plugin, because it is an .ESM.

 

Bottom line:

Try it out!

 

i hope it helps!

 

anyone an idea, if it is possible to make an .ESM file as a dummy plugin?

 

 

[HornyNerdBird]

6 hours ago, monty359 said:

 

This mod works with HIMBO 4, I am working on the update to HIMBO 5 (current version adds some new sliders). 

 

I do not use TNG yet, some of the features of SOS are still not there, but the creator works on it. From what i have seen, TAWOBAE should work with TNG. I expect for some male thongs more or less severe clipping, because the penis shapes have changed and new sliders are not implemented yet. I plan to switch to TNG, when some more features are implemented.

 

Another problem could be, that TAWOBAE has SOS as master for the keywords. I do not know, if it is possible to make SOS as dummy plugin, because it is an .ESM.

 

Bottom line:

Try it out!

 

i hope it helps!

 

anyone an idea, if it is possible to make an .ESM file as a dummy plugin?

 

 

It doesn't seem to work, I reinstalled it and Vortex says its Missing Masters which is SOS. I don't want to reinstall SOS as it would break The New Gentlemen. 

Edited February 14, 2024 by PhoenixFlyer324650

[legendend]

9 hours ago, monty359 said:

 

This mod works with HIMBO 4, I am working on the update to HIMBO 5 (current version adds some new sliders). 

 

I do not use TNG yet, some of the features of SOS are still not there, but the creator works on it. From what i have seen, TAWOBAE should work with TNG. I expect for some male thongs more or less severe clipping, because the penis shapes have changed and new sliders are not implemented yet. I plan to switch to TNG, when some more features are implemented.

 

Another problem could be, that TAWOBAE has SOS as master for the keywords. I do not know, if it is possible to make SOS as dummy plugin, because it is an .ESM.

 

Bottom line:

Try it out!

 

i hope it helps!

 

anyone an idea, if it is possible to make an .ESM file as a dummy plugin?

 

 

I tried to use this mod with TNG and it looks fine now. I just copy SOScore.esm to this mod's folder and this mod could work in MO2. So I think it's ok to have a dummy plugin for TNG user. 

[safado]

On 2/14/2024 at 1:10 PM, legendend said:

I tried to use this mod with TNG and it looks fine now. I just copy SOScore.esm to this mod's folder and this mod could work in MO2. So I think it's ok to have a dummy plugin for TNG user. 

 

That is true, but is better to just replace the SOS keyword with the TNG version. TAWOBAE is only binding to the keyword SOS_Reveling.  It is used for the Dwarven Cybord assets, that uses multiple slots, including slot32.  Without the keyword, the male versions of SOS or HIMBO will have a hole where the male dynamic assets add-on goes.

 

Entries using the keyword:

• 00DWA_Cyborg1 "Dwarven Limb Bladed Cyborg" [ARMO:05013373]
• 00DWA_Cyborg2 "Dwarven Limbless Cyborg A" [ARMO:05013374]
• 00DWA_Cyborg2alt "Dwarven Limbless Cyborg B" [ARMO:05013375]
• 00DWA_Cyborg3 "Dwarven Cyborg Body" [ARMO:05013379]

 

My personal patch removing SOS master and using overrides instead. It is easier to adapt to future TNG changes.

The keyword TNG_Revealing implements SOS_Revealing behavior.  Note: TNG 2.2 or newer will recognize SOS keywords for mods still using "Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm".

In the file:

• TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmorExtended.esp: Unapologetic original without SOS as a master.  Only Skyrim and DLCs are masters.
• TAWOBAE_SOS_PATCH.esp: Will re-establish SOS as master and keyword "SOS_Revealing [KYWD:XX0012DB]" source for the armors assets mentioned above.
• TAWOBAE_TNG_PATCH.esp: Will establish TheNewGentleMan as master and keyword "TNG_Revealing [KYWD:XX000FFF]" source for the armors assets mentioned above.

TAWOBAE no-SOS, SOS, or TNG plugin re-master.zip

 

***re-master in name is a joke, only the SOS keyword use was modified, everything else is original.

 

I have not tested this thoroughly, but have not found any problem, and the male character using the key-worded assets are rendered with the dynamic add-on that is currently the TNG schlong version.

 

[Huddee4]

Its really good to hear that Himbo conversion is coming! can't wait.

[furel]

So HIMBO presets didn't appear on my Bodyslide because is made for v4 and I have v5 installed. Don't ya?
Glad that is already making a conversion. Thank you.

[Gundalypse]

Wondering if anyone has a SPID file for this to distribute to bandits?

[monty359]

17 hours ago, Gundalypse said:

Wondering if anyone has a SPID file for this to distribute to bandits?

The mod should distribute the armors to NPCs in whole skyrim, it is meant to replace the vanilla armors by design. If you have a mod installed and see vanilla armors, then the mod author chose to give to the NPCs not an outfit (in CK therms), but loose armor parts. In this case you can make a custom patch.

[slkajhf34]

The HIMBO SE Wolf set does not work properly, invisible when equipped. Only the first Nordic Cavred set shows in smith menu (idk if intentional).. All other armors work and i have built them in bodyslide the same way...

Edited March 24, 2024 by slkajhf34

[monty359]

On 3/23/2024 at 5:18 AM, slkajhf34 said:

The HIMBO SE Wolf set does not work properly, invisible when equipped. Only the first Nordic Cavred set shows in smith menu (idk if intentional).. All other armors work and i have built them in bodyslide the same way...

I can not reproduce this on my machine (invisible wolf set). Can you check, if you build the wolf outfit? There should be the wolf outfit files in the meshes output folder.

 

In order to be able to build the outfit parts, you need to have the corresponding books in your inventory. I will check about only the "first" NordicCarved being build able.

[Evelle the Slut]

Having a strange problem I can't seem to find any resources on. The bikinis are present, built correctly, I can craft, and that crafting is gated correctly behind the books.

 

Buuuuut... for some reason, I just *can't* get the distribution working again. I'm coming back after quite a hiatus (no updates, don't worry) and most of my mods are fine, but this one, for some reason, just suddenly refuses to distribute to NPCs. Whether it's 'distribute all' or 'distribute all + vanilla', enemies only have vanilla armors. Any ideas? MO2 is saying nothing is overwriting it, and I can't think of other mods that interfere with armor distribution, only which enemies spawn where.

Edited April 29, 2024 by Evelle the Slut

[monty359]

On 4/29/2024 at 12:21 PM, Evelle the Slut said:

Having a strange problem I can't seem to find any resources on. The bikinis are present, built correctly, I can craft, and that crafting is gated correctly behind the books.

 

Buuuuut... for some reason, I just *can't* get the distribution working again. I'm coming back after quite a hiatus (no updates, don't worry) and most of my mods are fine, but this one, for some reason, just suddenly refuses to distribute to NPCs. Whether it's 'distribute all' or 'distribute all + vanilla', enemies only have vanilla armors. Any ideas? MO2 is saying nothing is overwriting it, and I can't think of other mods that interfere with armor distribution, only which enemies spawn where.

 

Are the bikinis not distributed at all or only not for some NPCs?

What is the load order? Have you tried to make the .esp last loading? (in MO2 on the right side). Can you check, if the entries of TAWOBAE are "losers" in the XEdit (look specifically for outfits and NPC entries?

Do you use bashed patch? If so, place TAWOBAE after Bashed patch in the LO on the right side of the MO2.

Let me know, how it goes!

 

PS: Did you install it on a new game or on an existing safe? Try to use the command in the console on any non guard NPC: resetinventory

Edited May 1, 2024 by monty359

[Evelle the Slut]

1 hour ago, monty359 said:

 

Are the bikinis not distributed at all or only not for some NPCs?

What is the load order? Have you tried to make the .esp last loading? (in MO2 on the right side). Can you check, if the entries of TAWOBAE are "losers" in the XEdit (look specifically for outfits and NPC entries?

Do you use bashed patch? If so, place TAWOBAE after Bashed patch in the LO on the right side of the MO2.

Let me know, how it goes!

 

PS: Did you install it on a new game or on an existing safe? Try to use the command in the console on any non guard NPC: resetinventory

Not distributed at all. Load order was TAWOBA at the very tippy-bottom.

 

I was looking through xEdit for overwrites and couldn't find any. I also do not used Bashed patch.

 

HOWEVER.

 

In double-checking my load order through the plugins subtab, I found that the leveled list .esp had been buried near the center of it and disabled for some reason, despite reinstalls. Re-activating it and resetting NPC inventory brings back the bikinis! So, problem solved! Thank you for helping me find the obvious culprit! ❤️

[DumCumpster]

is the orcish armour supposed to look like this or did I install this incorrectly?
can someone please help me out here

 

 

[monty359]

15 hours ago, DumCumpster said:

is the orcish armour supposed to look like this or did I install this incorrectly?
can someone please help me out here

 

 

 

Check this post and a couple of posts before and after, if you want to understand What is wrong. The solution is also there:

 

 

Let me know if it worked for you.

 

cheers

[DumCumpster]

i fixed the problem by opening the shape data in nifskope and removing the _e and _m textures in array index 4 and 5 respectively, and then rebuilding it in bodyslide

[safado]

On 5/5/2024 at 1:41 PM, DumCumpster said:

is the orcish armour supposed to look like this or did I install this incorrectly?
can someone please help me out here

 

 

 

 

Original Vanilla Orc armors do not use environmental maps shaders like TAWOBAE.  The _e is the environment texture and _m is a mask, combined they do metal light effect highlights on the armor mesh that make it look less flat.  Without Cathedral Armory or similar, the _m will be missing and the orc texture green tint will be increased because of the orc "metal" light effect.

 

If you use Cathedral Armory textures, the orc armor textures shaders used for the orc bikini parts will look similar to...

Spoiler

 

Notice some light effect on the borders and crevices of the armor.  It looks less plain in my opinion.

Some light-reflection rendering effects are lost when the _e or _m reference path are removed from the shader parameters in the NIF.  If is not a problem, that is ok.

 

Cathedral looks overhauls are a mix match of multiple texture mods, the ones for orc armors are originaly from Cabal 120's aMidianBorn textures collection.

Spoiler

 

There is also other textures work specific to orcish like Orcish Armors and Weapons Retexture SE. If using that, set the Cathedral patch option to true. 

Spoiler

 

TAWOBAE will use textures that target the Cathedral environmental mask shader setup. Here is cathedral armory overwritten by Orcish armor retex with Cathedral option enabled.   Bodylide Studio snapshot, it does not shows the in game metal reflection effect, but it shows the texture details.  In game is similar to the top picture but depends on renderer setting like ENB profiles and such.

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

Edited May 8, 2024 by safado

[foxspirits460]

is there a patch to just do leveled list if not that's fine

[foxspirits460]

also is there a sam fit?

[monty359]

17 minutes ago, foxspirits460 said:

is there a patch to just do leveled list if not that's fine

The mod is designed to replace vanilla armors with TAWOBAE armors. For the outfits, that are not there "yet", i use bad dogs armors and skimpy armors. No patches needed for replacement of a vanilla armors.

 

15 minutes ago, foxspirits460 said:

also is there a sam fit?

There are no bodyslides for SAM. I do not plan to create any. There are at the moment SOS and HIMBO bodyslides available.

If you would like to create SAM bodyslides, be my guest.

[legendend]

Really appreciate your work. Just wonder is there will be a version for HIMBO V5?

[monty359]

26 minutes ago, legendend said:

Really appreciate your work. Just wonder is there will be a version for HIMBO V5?

It is in work, real-life and the new TNG mod caused some delays.

[legendend]

On 5/24/2024 at 5:47 PM, monty359 said:

It is in work, real-life and the new TNG mod caused some delays.

Really glad to hear that! Many thanks to your work. It's so hard to see something sexy stuffs for male characters.