TAWOBAE - TAWOBA Extended

[HornyNerdBird]

On 9/17/2023 at 9:41 AM, monty359 said:

 

 

What mods do you have installed? What version of TAWOBAE you have problems with? Do you use HIMBO or SOS variant? Can you provide pictures from the outfits, that have this problem?

 

 

I figured it out, Modular Clothing System was the cause for the invisible torsos it seems. For the weight issues I just incorrectly built the bodies in BodySlide, to fix it I just increased the body size in BodySlide. So it was my bad. I've just accepted the boots thing as that's not an issue just a pet peeve of mine. Really enjoying this mod, can't wait for glass armour to be added. 

[majorfreak]

okay, no offense intended. Do i need this mod if i'm not interested in himbo? 

 

I have the impression that himbo isn't some iteration on SOS (ie that the former is better than the latter), and i also have the impression that this mod probably isn't for me if i'm using female protagonists and don't really care about how the males appear ingame.

 

I installed this mod because i figured this version of TAWOBA(E) was the most up to date. I'm starting to wonder if i'm bloating my game with a mod that is redundant for my playstyle.

Edited October 14, 2023 by majorfreak

[safado]

15 hours ago, majorfreak said:

okay, no offense intended. Do i need this mod if i'm not interested in himbo? 

 

I have the impression that himbo isn't some iteration on SOS (ie that the former is better than the latter), and i also have the impression that this mod probably isn't for me if i'm using female protagonists and don't really care about how the males appear ingame.

 

I installed this mod because i figured this version of TAWOBA(E) was the most up to date. I'm starting to wonder if i'm bloating my game with a mod that is redundant for my playstyle.

 

It also has SOS male models, separates from HIMBO.  Since the first version, HIMBO was added in later versions.

 

Because SOS do not have bodyslide files of the bodies, you need to create a new morph range preset to account for 0 slim and 1 (100%) heavy "muscular" ranges in the body, hand, feet partitions. It is all in the bodyslide menus and slider options.  To minimize issues with female bodies and presets, you need setting the group filter to "SOS SE TAWOBAE".  Only use presets setup for SOS.

 

TAWOBA-Ext follows Bethesda design of armor\clothes having male and female meshes for each item. That a lot of extra work for designs that accommodate male physiology.  That what separate this version of TAWOBA from the others.

 

There is also Sunjeong TAWOBA Remastered 6.1. It is of very good quality and only target female like the original but with a lot less issues.  She has a change log in her website.  I used this one without issues for a long time. If you want TAWOBA remastered SLS_BikiniArmor and "SLAX"\"BAKA" keywords patch go to, unofficial SLS SE (obsolete) page, it is near the bottom of front page.

 

Edited October 14, 2023 by safado

[majorfreak]

honestly, Safado, i think i remember why i went with this mod:  because i found this mod to be the only TAWOBA+ version that dealt with the annoying top vs bottom SOS issue (either/or)

[safado]

7 hours ago, majorfreak said:

honestly, Safado, i think i remember why i went with this mod:  because i found this mod to be the only TAWOBA+ version that dealt with the annoying top vs bottom SOS issue (either/or)

 

I think that was the SLOT32, SLOT52, SOS_Revealing keyword combination or lack of keyword that affected the bikini assets male meshes using standard Skyrim mesh.   TAWOBA-EXT tops are slot56 and bottoms SLOT49 like DD assets.  No direct conflict with SOS Slot52 and slot32 combination. 

• There is an issue when SLS is included with DD.  SLS has a HalfNaked cover feature that will trigger a DD hider response and make the bottom assets invisible.   With DD 5.2 that should be fixed, but older DD needs either the DD hider or the SLS halfnaked cover feature disabled.   SLS HalfNaked trigger DD hider because it auto equip an invisible slot32 armor when top slot56 and bottom slot49 are detected equipped without slot32. (slot id adjustable in SLS).  Slot32 equipping will trigger a DD hider based on is settings to hide DD items. DD5.2 will only do it for DD items, not anything in those slot like old DD.   SLS halfnaked auto equipping invisible slot32 will "make" the default Skyrim conditions for nakedness to be false and stop the incessant you are naked comments when using TAWOBA-EXT or similar armor setup using multiple slots combinations instead of slot32.

 

TAWOBA remastered change log, SOS issue in item 30.  Remastered solved the SOS issue differently. I prefer TAWOBA-EXT male meshes and SOS solution for my mod's setup, with DD and SLS as core mods.

Spoiler

Change Log for SunJeong's TAWOBA Remastered:
This is a list of all changes compared to every other version of TAWOBA out there. I spent so much time on this mod to make it as perfect as possible.

NEW FEATURES:

1. Added support for non-physics bodies (removes XP32 requirement for this one)

2. Added support for CBBE 3BAv2

3. Added support for CBBE SMP

4. CBBE normal physics version was updated with the most current CBBE body as of April 2020.

5. Removed ALL old HDT Heels offset. Added new heels offsets for RaceMenu

6. Merged bikinis from Bikini Ascend (Orcish and Elven) and Halofarm's Nordic Carved Bikinis

7. Manually hand edited every single breast slider for every single bikini top for higher quality slider morphs. No more nasty bending.

8. Grouped SliderSet files and ShapeData folders respective of their sets (helps save some space)

9. Moved locations of crafting books to avoid conflicts with mods like JK's Skyrim and Open Cities. External patches are no longer needed. New map of book locations made.

10. Added additional 3 crafting books for the Elven, Orcish, and Nordic Carved sets.

11. Cleaned ESP with numerous useless ARMA, WRLD, CELL, FORMID, and STATIC records. Seriously there were a lot of useless and dirty edits Nisetanaka left over.

12. Added SMP cloth physics to the following armors for 3BAv2:
      a. Wolf Companion Loin Cloth
      b. Steel Tasset 2A
      c. Steel Tasset 2B
      d. Elven Tasset 4
      e. Iron Tasset 1
      f. Ebony Skirt

13. Added optional custom high resolution crafting books illustrated by BadHombreReyes and PolarStar

14. Added optional support for Heels Sound on applicable boots.

BUG FIXES:

15. Fixed missing cube maps for the Ebony set

16. Fixed missing cubemaps for the Dwemer set

17. Fixed missing cubemaps for the Elven set

18. Fixed missing cubemaps for the Iron set

19. Fixed missing cubemaps for the Steel set

20. Added cubemaps for the Orchish set

21. Fixed messed up skinning for Elven Gorget 2 and Elven Bikini Bottom 3

22. Fixed messed up skinning for Nordplate Shoulder 4L, 4R, 5L, and 5R

23. Fixed wrong partitions for Nordplate Tasset 1C and Nordplate Skirt 1

24. Fixed double 33 hand paritions for Steel Guantlets 1

25. Fixed exploding body mesh for TAWOBA Dwarven Cyborg I (Normal Physics). Fixed missing zap slider for arms and legs.

26. Updated ARMA records for male equivalent armors to match each theme. Credit: GuyOtherSome

27. Removed Thalmar Hood II from leveled list due to conflicts with the required head slot making male Thalmor headless.

28. Removed the left over clutter from whiterun that caused clipping with mods like JK's Skyrim.

29. Dwemer crafting book will no longer be marked as stolen

30. Added SOS_Revealing keyword to all armors using slot 32 in order to fix naked males bug.

      a. Important note, this fix will require a new save game. Otherwise you will have to manually reset inventory for every NPC you encounter.

31.Removed stray empty cell and worldspace records Credit: GuyOtherSome

32. Removed unused/empty ARMA records Credit: GuyOtherSome

33. Removes two floating logs found in entrance of Riverwood

34. Fixed Dragonbone Gorget I A, B, C not showing up in-game

35. Fixed Dwarven Collar 1 and 2 not showing up in-game

36. Iron Gorget I close, I op, II, III a, III b, III c, IV not showing up in-game

37. Fixed Nord Plate Pauldron IV L, IV R, V L, V R not showing up in-game

38. Fixed Nordic Carved Abs Guard 1, 2 ,3 not showing up in-game

39. Fixed Nordic Carved Tassets I not showing up in-game

40. Removed edits made to Alvor's item inventory

41. Removed Bikiniseman NPC

42. Removed unused tawoba static records

43. Removed random floating doors in Markarth

 

 

Edited October 15, 2023 by safado

[HornyNerdBird]

Is this mod still being worked on? I thought about this when I made my last comment but forgot to ask it. There's still a lot of armours missing. Daedric, Glass, Dragonscale, pretty much all dlc armours except for carved nordic. I hope it's still being worked on & it's just taking a while. 

[monty359]

17 hours ago, PhoenixFlyer324650 said:

Is this mod still being worked on? I thought about this when I made my last comment but forgot to ask it. There's still a lot of armours missing. Daedric, Glass, Dragonscale, pretty much all dlc armours except for carved nordic. I hope it's still being worked on & it's just taking a while. 

I am still working on this mod, but it is slow going.

I finished the royal vampire outfit (ingame tested), i did rework the guard outfit for markarth  (dwemer based) for testing and i like it so far. I also did some experiments for outfits for Khajiits, Argonians and Futa characters.

At the moment i am working on the implementation of mage apprentice (female) into the game. Next will be the male version and some more guard armors. After that i plan to publish an update.

 

In general i would like to implement all the outfits as TAWOBAE. Some of them are made by other authors and need only the male variant, others need both variants. I have lots of plans for TAWOBAE, but only limited time.

[HornyNerdBird]

5 hours ago, monty359 said:

I am still working on this mod, but it is slow going.

I finished the royal vampire outfit (ingame tested), i did rework the guard outfit for markarth  (dwemer based) for testing and i like it so far. I also did some experiments for outfits for Khajiits, Argonians and Futa characters.

At the moment i am working on the implementation of mage apprentice (female) into the game. Next will be the male version and some more guard armors. After that i plan to publish an update.

 

In general i would like to implement all the outfits as TAWOBAE. Some of them are made by other authors and need only the male variant, others need both variants. I have lots of plans for TAWOBAE, but only limited time.

Ah...I see, ok was just wondering, sorry if I came off as rude or anything, I didn't mean to. Nice to know your doing your putting your own spin on it with the guard armours & I presume by saying your experimenting with Khajiit & Argonian characters that your trying to design armours to better suit there builds. Can't wait to see what you you'll have in store next update. 

Also how does updating a mod like this work? Will update files be added separately to the main file on Mega or would I have to redownload it? 

[monty359]

On 11/10/2023 at 4:21 PM, PhoenixFlyer324650 said:

Ah...I see, ok was just wondering, sorry if I came off as rude or anything, I didn't mean to. Nice to know your doing your putting your own spin on it with the guard armours & I presume by saying your experimenting with Khajiit & Argonian characters that your trying to design armours to better suit there builds. Can't wait to see what you you'll have in store next update. 

Also how does updating a mod like this work? Will update files be added separately to the main file on Mega or would I have to redownload it? 

 

The update process is usually working so, that a new full file can be downloaded and after installing and building the bodyslides the game can be played. Updates usually also do not require a new game.

 

If anything special is needed for installation, i will announce and describe it.

Edited November 12, 2023 by monty359

[rhob242]

I wont be able to run this because MO2 is giving me error of missing SOS master file, apparently SOS Lite will not work this this, if you use SOS Lite then use the older version of TAWOBA.

[monty359]

9 hours ago, rhob242 said:

I wont be able to run this because MO2 is giving me error of missing SOS master file, apparently SOS Lite will not work this this, if you use SOS Lite then use the older version of TAWOBA.

SOS is only used here for the "sos_revealing" and "sos_concealing" keywords. If you do not use SOS, you could probably create a dummy plugin or remove SOS as master.

[DiaboliWorgen]

HIMBO got an update and it's now at V5. New sliders added to the HIMBO body

[monty359]

16 hours ago, DiaboliWorgen said:

HIMBO got an update and it's now at V5. New sliders added to the HIMBO body

Thanks, i am aware of that. There will be an update too the new version. 

[wolfswut_wolfsmut]

Hello, do you plan on adding physics to the himbo bikinis?

[monty359]

3 hours ago, walks-with-skeevers said:

Hello, do you plan on adding physics to the himbo bikinis?

The new HIMBO has physics, i will test it and if i like it, i will do it. I newer used SMP, so it will only be CBPC physics.

[slayerus]

Compatible with new SOS alternative The New Gentleman?

Edited December 17, 2023 by slayerus

[MrNok]

Okay, I feel lost reading Build section. Do I really need to change reference skeleton to male? But then what about bodyslide presets, it's not like I can build with the same preset as female, right? I feel like this section is outdated, can anyone here give me full, up to date install instructions?
Also, can I make it so that only female bandits spawn with this armor?

Edited December 17, 2023 by MrNok

[monty359]

22 hours ago, slayerus said:

Compatible with new SOS alternative The New Gentleman?

 

Yes, should be compatible, if you still use SOS or HIMBO bodies.

 

Let me know if there is something not working. (i do not use the new mod)

 

18 hours ago, MrNok said:

Okay, I feel lost reading Build section. Do I really need to change reference skeleton to male? But then what about bodyslide presets, it's not like I can build with the same preset as female, right?

 

Reference skeleton does nothing to do with the bodyslide preset. You can build your male bodyslides with female skeleton and enjoy a disconnected penis. Let me know if it works for you!

 

18 hours ago, MrNok said:

 I feel like this section is outdated, can anyone here give me full, up to date install instructions?

 

What is outdated? Be more specific, please.

 

17 hours ago, MrNok said:

Also, can I make it so that only female bandits spawn with this armor?

 

No, not with this mod, but there are other TAWOBA variants without male outfits.

 

 

I hope this helps.

 

Cheers

 

Edited December 18, 2023 by monty359

[MrNok]

8 hours ago, monty359 said:

What is outdated? Be more specific, please.

 

Spoiler

• Start Bodyslide

• Activate in "Filter by Group" the Options "CBBE SE TAWOBAE" and "SOS SE TAWOBAE".

• Filter the outfits for "CBBE"

• Click on Settings button. Down under reference skelleton click "Browse" and choose "skeleton_female_sse.nif", click "Open" button and then "OK"

• Choose body shape and Batch build the CBBE outfits

• Change for Male skelleton. Click on Settings button. Down under reference skelleton click "Browse" and choose "skeleton_male_sse.nif", click "Open" button and then "OK"

• Filter the outfits for "SOS"

• Choose body shape (only one available) and Batch build the SOS outfits

• DONE!

This. I was referring to this.

 

8 hours ago, monty359 said:

No, not with this mod, but there are other TAWOBA variants without male outfits.

Can you provide a link? I looked for such a version myself but somehow didn't find anything

[monty359]

14 hours ago, MrNok said:

 

  Reveal hidden contents

• Start Bodyslide

• Activate in "Filter by Group" the Options "CBBE SE TAWOBAE" and "SOS SE TAWOBAE".

• Filter the outfits for "CBBE"

• Click on Settings button. Down under reference skelleton click "Browse" and choose "skeleton_female_sse.nif", click "Open" button and then "OK"

• Choose body shape and Batch build the CBBE outfits

• Change for Male skelleton. Click on Settings button. Down under reference skelleton click "Browse" and choose "skeleton_male_sse.nif", click "Open" button and then "OK"

• Filter the outfits for "SOS"

• Choose body shape (only one available) and Batch build the SOS outfits

• DONE!

This. I was referring to this.

 

Can you provide a link? I looked for such a version myself but somehow didn't find anything

I do not see anything that is outdated and no longer valid.

 

On the search: try to use this in your search engine: tawoba bikini armor skyrim

 

You should get plenty to choose from.

 

I hope this helps.

[MrNok]

6 hours ago, monty359 said:

On the search: try to use this in your search engine: tawoba bikini armor skyrim

Oh, didn't think about that, did I? Alright, lets see here...

First result: Bikini Armor Replacer (TAWOBA). Well, I don't need a replacer, so that's a pass.
Second: The Amazing World of Bikini Armor. Unfortunately, that's an LE version, so pass.
Third: The Amazing World of Bikini Armors REMASTERED 6.1. Contains male armor, pass.
Fourth: same as third, but now in russian. Pass.
Fifth: a reddit post which mentions The Amazing World of Bikini Armor - BHUNP SE. I don't know if it's a female only variant, but I also don't use BNHUP, so pass.
Sixth: The Expanded World of Bikini Armors - By PUMPKIN. Requires third to be installed, pass.

Next results are all either same as above or something else entirely. So, seems like it's not as easy as typing "tawoba bikini armor skyrim" in a search engine. What a surprise! Never saw that coming.

Anyway, if you don't have anything actually useful to say, please, don't bother with a reply, thank you.

P.S.
On the slight chance you didn't actually mean to be as unhelpful as possible, I apologize

[monty359]

7 hours ago, MrNok said:

Oh, didn't think about that, did I? Alright, lets see here...

First result: Bikini Armor Replacer (TAWOBA). Well, I don't need a replacer, so that's a pass.
Second: The Amazing World of Bikini Armor. Unfortunately, that's an LE version, so pass.
Third: The Amazing World of Bikini Armors REMASTERED 6.1. Contains male armor, pass.
Fourth: same as third, but now in russian. Pass.
Fifth: a reddit post which mentions The Amazing World of Bikini Armor - BHUNP SE. I don't know if it's a female only variant, but I also don't use BNHUP, so pass.
Sixth: The Expanded World of Bikini Armors - By PUMPKIN. Requires third to be installed, pass.

Next results are all either same as above or something else entirely. So, seems like it's not as easy as typing "tawoba bikini armor skyrim" in a search engine. What a surprise! Never saw that coming.

Anyway, if you don't have anything actually useful to say, please, don't bother with a reply, thank you.

P.S.
On the slight chance you didn't actually mean to be as unhelpful as possible, I apologize

 

None of the versions on the list contain male variants. You should be safe to install the REMASTERED version and if you like the extended on top.

[safado]

10 hours ago, MrNok said:

Third: The Amazing World of Bikini Armors REMASTERED 6.1. Contains male armor, pass.

Sixth: The Expanded World of Bikini Armors - By PUMPKIN. Requires third to be installed, pass.
 

 

Those two are CBBE SE, or 3BA body, female only, non replacers, somewhat compatible with loverslab mods (DD), and patched many bugs from original TAWOBA.

You can even find patches for SLAX\Baka\SLS keywords around Loverslab forums for those two.   

In Skyrim all armor assets need a male version or it glitch on male NPC. Remastered assigned standard Skyrim male armors to the female bikinis to work around invisible or naked male NPCs issues.  

 

The biggest difference between Remastered and Extended is that the later have male versions and replaced Slot32(full body) assets with slot56 (DD-bras).

There's also some difference with slot assignments but I consider that minor.   Remastered and the Pumpkin add-on has a bigger selection (combined) of armor styles than the other TAWOBA variants at the moment.  Maybe BakaFactory Bikini Quest has similar selection but that one is BHUNP only, and the quest is meh.

 

Extended and Remastered are very good "cleaner" versions of TAWOBA relative to the others. 

 

 

Edited December 20, 2023 by safado

[MrNok]

On 12/20/2023 at 7:43 AM, monty359 said:

None of the versions on the list contain male variants. You should be safe to install the REMASTERED version and if you like the extended on top.

 

On 12/20/2023 at 10:39 AM, safado said:

Those two are CBBE SE, or 3BA body, female only, non replacers, somewhat compatible with loverslab mods (DD), and patched many bugs from original TAWOBA.

Wait, really? Well then, first of all, I once again apologize for my rant.

However, the thing is, REMASTERED 6.1 is the first TAWOBA version I tried installing, and after loading into the world I stumbled upon several naked males with holes where schlongs should've been and all of them had bikini armor in their inventory, so I assumed the mod adds male variants as well as female and that it somehow conflicted with SOS.

Did I install the mod incorrectly then or is it something else I missed? I simply installed it with MO and then run bodyslide.

[safado]

8 hours ago, MrNok said:

 

Wait, really? Well then, first of all, I once again apologize for my rant.

However, the thing is, REMASTERED 6.1 is the first TAWOBA version I tried installing, and after loading into the world I stumbled upon several naked males with holes where schlongs should've been and all of them had bikini armor in their inventory, so I assumed the mod adds male variants as well as female and that it somehow conflicted with SOS.

Did I install the mod incorrectly then or is it something else I missed? I simply installed it with MO and then run bodyslide.

 

I read about naked male some time ago.

 

Check the Remastered change log, it has to do with SOS keywords or something. Remastered tries to fix the issue, but it depends on when it is added to the load order or the SOS setup, I think.  Item 30.  SunJeung added the vanilla armors to the bikinis, so Male are not naked, but Skyrim outfit get set during first load and can glitch when modified mid-game.

Hint in Skyrim there's no female only armors, all armors need both male and female entries, or it glitches with the gender not in the entries.  Remastered completed the entries and added them to some NPC outfits like bandits, I think.

Check again with new game.

Spoiler

Change Log for SunJeong's TAWOBA Remastered:
This is a list of all changes compared to every other version of TAWOBA out there. I spent so much time on this mod to make it as perfect as possible.

NEW FEATURES:

1. Added support for non-physics bodies (removes XP32 requirement for this one)

2. Added support for CBBE 3BAv2

3. Added support for CBBE SMP

4. CBBE normal physics version was updated with the most current CBBE body as of April 2020.

5. Removed ALL old HDT Heels offset. Added new heels offsets for RaceMenu

6. Merged bikinis from Bikini Ascend (Orcish and Elven) and Halofarm's Nordic Carved Bikinis

7. Manually hand edited every single breast slider for every single bikini top for higher quality slider morphs. No more nasty bending.

8. Grouped SliderSet files and ShapeData folders respective of their sets (helps save some space)

9. Moved locations of crafting books to avoid conflicts with mods like JK's Skyrim and Open Cities. External patches are no longer needed. New map of book locations made.

10. Added additional 3 crafting books for the Elven, Orcish, and Nordic Carved sets.

11. Cleaned ESP with numerous useless ARMA, WRLD, CELL, FORMID, and STATIC records. Seriously there were a lot of useless and dirty edits Nisetanaka left over.

12. Added SMP cloth physics to the following armors for 3BAv2:
      a. Wolf Companion Loin Cloth
      b. Steel Tasset 2A
      c. Steel Tasset 2B
      d. Elven Tasset 4
      e. Iron Tasset 1
      f. Ebony Skirt

13. Added optional custom high resolution crafting books illustrated by BadHombreReyes and PolarStar

14. Added optional support for Heels Sound on applicable boots.

BUG FIXES:

15. Fixed missing cube maps for the Ebony set

16. Fixed missing cubemaps for the Dwemer set

17. Fixed missing cubemaps for the Elven set

18. Fixed missing cubemaps for the Iron set

19. Fixed missing cubemaps for the Steel set

20. Added cubemaps for the Orchish set

21. Fixed messed up skinning for Elven Gorget 2 and Elven Bikini Bottom 3

22. Fixed messed up skinning for Nordplate Shoulder 4L, 4R, 5L, and 5R

23. Fixed wrong partitions for Nordplate Tasset 1C and Nordplate Skirt 1

24. Fixed double 33 hand paritions for Steel Guantlets 1

25. Fixed exploding body mesh for TAWOBA Dwarven Cyborg I (Normal Physics). Fixed missing zap slider for arms and legs.

26. Updated ARMA records for male equivalent armors to match each theme. Credit: GuyOtherSome

27. Removed Thalmar Hood II from leveled list due to conflicts with the required head slot making male Thalmor headless.

28. Removed the left over clutter from whiterun that caused clipping with mods like JK's Skyrim.

29. Dwemer crafting book will no longer be marked as stolen

30. Added SOS_Revealing keyword to all armors using slot 32 in order to fix naked males bug.

      a. Important note, this fix will require a new save game. Otherwise you will have to manually reset inventory for every NPC you encounter.

31.Removed stray empty cell and worldspace records Credit: GuyOtherSome

32. Removed unused/empty ARMA records Credit: GuyOtherSome

33. Removes two floating logs found in entrance of Riverwood

34. Fixed Dragonbone Gorget I A, B, C not showing up in-game

35. Fixed Dwarven Collar 1 and 2 not showing up in-game

36. Iron Gorget I close, I op, II, III a, III b, III c, IV not showing up in-game

37. Fixed Nord Plate Pauldron IV L, IV R, V L, V R not showing up in-game

38. Fixed Nordic Carved Abs Guard 1, 2 ,3 not showing up in-game

39. Fixed Nordic Carved Tassets I not showing up in-game

40. Removed edits made to Alvor's item inventory

41. Removed Bikiniseman NPC

42. Removed unused tawoba static records

43. Removed random floating doors in Markarth

 

 

Edited December 22, 2023 by safado