TAWOBAE - TAWOBA Extended

[devilangel13]

Hello! should i use this one instead of the 1.6 version to correct the nude Thief withotu schlong?

 

Edit : my bad it don't work with the armor that was added on nexus after... I gues the Mod would need an update for that ^^"
I saw that there is a patch for Immersive Wench but i guess it is obsolet with the new version too?

 

Any idea how to correct the schlong problem with male thiefs?

Edited June 7, 2024 by devilangel13

[monty359]

6 hours ago, devilangel13 said:

Hello! should i use this one instead of the 1.6 version to correct the nude Thief withotu schlong?

 

Edit : my bad it don't work with the armor that was added on nexus after... I gues the Mod would need an update for that ^^"
I saw that there is a patch for Immersive Wench but i guess it is obsolet with the new version too?

 

Any idea how to correct the schlong problem with male thiefs?

Hi,

TAWOBAE does not provide a male thief outfit (Yet). So the problem, you describe, is from another mod. From your description of the problem, it could be anything. Can you describe the problem in more details?

 

I provided with the latest version of TAWOBAE the latest version of the patch. The patch distributes TAWOBAE items to the wenches, nothing more.

 

I hope this helps.

 

Cheers

[NathanJ4531]

On 3/23/2024 at 12:18 AM, slkajhf34 said:

The HIMBO SE Wolf set does not work properly, invisible when equipped. Only the first Nordic Cavred set shows in smith menu (idk if intentional).. All other armors work and i have built them in bodyslide the same way...

I'm having the same issue with only the 1st Nordic Carved set being available. All the ab options are present but every other part is limited to the first one. 

 

[monty359]

On 6/20/2024 at 4:57 AM, NathanJ4531 said:

I'm having the same issue with only the 1st Nordic Carved set being available. All the ab options are present but every other part is limited to the first one. 

 

I will investigate it. Can you confirm, that you have the HIMBO SE Wolf .nif files in your meshes folder? If so and your meshes folder is in the Overwrite folder, can you move it into the mod folder and test again?

Thanks!

[NathanJ4531]

14 hours ago, monty359 said:

I will investigate it. Can you confirm, that you have the HIMBO SE Wolf .nif files in your meshes folder? If so and your meshes folder is in the Overwrite folder, can you move it into the mod folder and test again?

Thanks!

Bear with me because I'm trying to get you an answer. I'm using MO2 as a mod organizer. I cant find a file with that specific name in my meshes folder in either the overwrite folder or the data folder.  There are files with names like WolfHeavy_v1_0.nif in the overwrite and data folders under meshes/armor/shitty. The Wolf armor shows up fine in the game. I have no issue with invisible wolf armors. Nordic Carved is my only issue. The missing armor versions appear in Bodyslide and have been built. but cant be crafted. They are missing for both male and female characters

 

Hope that helps somewhat. 

[monty359]

On 6/22/2024 at 1:31 AM, NathanJ4531 said:

Bear with me because I'm trying to get you an answer. I'm using MO2 as a mod organizer. I cant find a file with that specific name in my meshes folder in either the overwrite folder or the data folder.  There are files with names like WolfHeavy_v1_0.nif in the overwrite and data folders under meshes/armor/shitty. The Wolf armor shows up fine in the game. I have no issue with invisible wolf armors. Nordic Carved is my only issue. The missing armor versions appear in Bodyslide and have been built. but cant be crafted. They are missing for both male and female characters

 

Hope that helps somewhat. 

Well, it helps, for sure. The issue with the wolf outfit i was not able to reproduce, the issue with the recipes was changed and should go live with the next update.

[nunyabidnez]

So, I have the issue some others noted back a while ago about some males appearing naked with no hands.  I've verified that in each of them, they're assigned a bikini armor.  In some of the provided solutions, the authors stated they had a TAWOBAE.esm that they had to repatch, but I don't have that in my load order?  I'm assuming that means I've screwed the pooch somewhere?  If not, does anyone know the most definite solution for this issue?  I suppose I could just console loot each nude amputee and replace their armor with something else, but won't that just revert back when they reload into a cell?  Thanks in advance for any advice or information.

[monty359]

6 hours ago, nunyabidnez said:

So, I have the issue some others noted back a while ago about some males appearing naked with no hands.  I've verified that in each of them, they're assigned a bikini armor.  In some of the provided solutions, the authors stated they had a TAWOBAE.esm that they had to repatch, but I don't have that in my load order?  I'm assuming that means I've screwed the pooch somewhere?  If not, does anyone know the most definite solution for this issue?  I suppose I could just console loot each nude amputee and replace their armor with something else, but won't that just revert back when they reload into a cell?  Thanks in advance for any advice or information.

Can you provide pictures and/or names of the outfits with this problem?

 

There is no TAWOBAE.esm in my mod, there also should not be anything overwriting the .nif files in my mod, they are unique. In my load order i use some patches for some mods and those patches need to be after the bashed patch, because some NPC outfits can be changes by the bashed parch.

[nunyabidnez]

11 hours ago, monty359 said:

Can you provide pictures and/or names of the outfits with this problem?

 

There is no TAWOBAE.esm in my mod, there also should not be anything overwriting the .nif files in my mod, they are unique. In my load order i use some patches for some mods and those patches need to be after the bashed patch, because some NPC outfits can be changes by the bashed parch.

So, it seems to be just about any bikini style armor distributed to male NPCs?  I've checked several who are naked, handless and footless and they've had everything from steel bikinis to hide bikinis.  The only one that was different was one NPC who had obsidian, he was still naked but he at least had both his feet and hands.  I've attached a couple screens, as per your request.

[monty359]

5 minutes ago, nunyabidnez said:

So, it seems to be just about any bikini style armor distributed to male NPCs?  I've checked several who are naked, handless and footless and they've had everything from steel bikinis to hide bikinis.  The only one that was different was one NPC who had obsidian, he was still naked but he at least had both his feet and hands.  I've attached a couple screens, as per your request.

 

The behavior is identical to the problem, when the outfits were not build in bodyslide. Can you double check, that you have build outfits for your female body (3BA or CBBE) AND for your male body (SOS or HIMBO). In you meshes folder there should be for every outfit version female and male version (xxx_0.nif/xxx_1.nif for female and xxx_m_0.nif/xxx_m_1.nif for male)?

 

 

[nunyabidnez]

1 hour ago, monty359 said:

 

The behavior is identical to the problem, when the outfits were not build in bodyslide. Can you double check, that you have build outfits for your female body (3BA or CBBE) AND for your male body (SOS or HIMBO). In you meshes folder there should be for every outfit version female and male version (xxx_0.nif/xxx_1.nif for female and xxx_m_0.nif/xxx_m_1.nif for male)?

 

 

I know for a fact that I did for 3BA, I'm reasonably confident I did for Himbo too but I'll double check that to make sure.  Thank you so much for the responses!

[nunyabidnez]

2 hours ago, monty359 said:

 

The behavior is identical to the problem, when the outfits were not build in bodyslide. Can you double check, that you have build outfits for your female body (3BA or CBBE) AND for your male body (SOS or HIMBO). In you meshes folder there should be for every outfit version female and male version (xxx_0.nif/xxx_1.nif for female and xxx_m_0.nif/xxx_m_1.nif for male)?

 

 

Just rebuilt all outfits again, both for 3Ba and for Himbo, and no change.  Still seeing naked amputees whenever the males have bikini style armors.

[nunyabidnez]

3 hours ago, monty359 said:

 

The behavior is identical to the problem, when the outfits were not build in bodyslide. Can you double check, that you have build outfits for your female body (3BA or CBBE) AND for your male body (SOS or HIMBO). In you meshes folder there should be for every outfit version female and male version (xxx_0.nif/xxx_1.nif for female and xxx_m_0.nif/xxx_m_1.nif for male)?

 

 

Is HIMBO a hard requirement?  I'm thinking of dropping it if not, as now that I've rebuilt all the outfits, I no longer have nude males.  They're all wearing those stupid briefs that come with Himbo, regardless of my SOS choices.

[monty359]

34 minutes ago, nunyabidnez said:

Is HIMBO a hard requirement?  I'm thinking of dropping it if not, as now that I've rebuilt all the outfits, I no longer have nude males.  They're all wearing those stupid briefs that come with Himbo, regardless of my SOS choices.

For the version available, you can choose between HIMBO and SOS body. I am planing on dropping the SOS body, because it is ...well dated, and HIMBO is in every respect superior to SOS.

 

Back to the problem at hand. Do you see any working male outfits? If you use MO2 and your meshes-folder for TAWOBAE is in the "overwrite" folder, try to move it into your regular mods folder.How did you determine, that the NPC have TAWOBAE outfits? You said, you checked it. Are you familiar with xEdit?

 

[nunyabidnez]

1 hour ago, monty359 said:

For the version available, you can choose between HIMBO and SOS body. I am planing on dropping the SOS body, because it is ...well dated, and HIMBO is in every respect superior to SOS.

 

Back to the problem at hand. Do you see any working male outfits? If you use MO2 and your meshes-folder for TAWOBAE is in the "overwrite" folder, try to move it into your regular mods folder.How did you determine, that the NPC have TAWOBAE outfits? You said, you checked it. Are you familiar with xEdit?

 

By working male outfits, do you mean specifically TAWOBAE outfits or just armor / clothes in general?  Most male NPCs are ok and have the appropriate armor and all applicable body parts.  It's only those who are assigned a bikini armor who are coming up naked and amputee.  How I've verified the outfits was through the console, using showinventory.  I messed around with xEdit back when I was still playing oldrim, a long while ago.  I probably know just enough about it to get myself into trouble, lol.  I used to use it to clean masters and stuff like that, not much more than that.

[monty359]

53 minutes ago, nunyabidnez said:

By working male outfits, do you mean specifically TAWOBAE outfits or just armor / clothes in general?  Most male NPCs are ok and have the appropriate armor and all applicable body parts.  It's only those who are assigned a bikini armor who are coming up naked and amputee.  How I've verified the outfits was through the console, using showinventory.  I messed around with xEdit back when I was still playing oldrim, a long while ago.  I probably know just enough about it to get myself into trouble, lol.  I used to use it to clean masters and stuff like that, not much more than that.

 

i made it so, that all available armors are also distributed to NPC and replace the vanilla armors. If you see some male TAWOBAE armors on NPCs, then the problem would be with specific armors, if you do not see any male TAWOBAE armors on NPCs, then the problem is more of a load order or mesh. Were you able to check the mesh folders and the nif files?

[nunyabidnez]

3 hours ago, monty359 said:

 

i made it so, that all available armors are also distributed to NPC and replace the vanilla armors. If you see some male TAWOBAE armors on NPCs, then the problem would be with specific armors, if you do not see any male TAWOBAE armors on NPCs, then the problem is more of a load order or mesh. Were you able to check the mesh folders and the nif files?

Uhhhm,... that's something I've never done before, and wouldn't know where to start, lol.  I'm assuming that's what you were asking about xEdit for?  I think I'll just try to wipe it all and start again, probably be easier for me than trying to figure out xEdit without breaking everything.  I'm thinking I've got more than one issue, as I just found some other males who are naked, but have their hands, no feet and holes where their schlongs should be.  I also found one female NPC with the black face bug, and some of the wenches I have from Immersive Wenches are naked as the day they were born.  They've got all their body parts, though.

[monty359]

2 hours ago, nunyabidnez said:

Uhhhm,... that's something I've never done before, and wouldn't know where to start, lol.  I'm assuming that's what you were asking about xEdit for?  I think I'll just try to wipe it all and start again, probably be easier for me than trying to figure out xEdit without breaking everything.  I'm thinking I've got more than one issue, as I just found some other males who are naked, but have their hands, no feet and holes where their schlongs should be.  I also found one female NPC with the black face bug, and some of the wenches I have from Immersive Wenches are naked as the day they were born.  They've got all their body parts, though.

To check the path is easy, when you build the outfits in bodyslide, you get a message: something like "data was safed under c:\xxx\yyy" you need to check this path, if the .nif files are there. Usually with ModOrganiser 2 everything is saved in your overwrite folder.

[nunyabidnez]

10 hours ago, monty359 said:

To check the path is easy, when you build the outfits in bodyslide, you get a message: something like "data was safed under c:\xxx\yyy" you need to check this path, if the .nif files are there. Usually with ModOrganiser 2 everything is saved in your overwrite folder.

So, quick question and it may be the root of my issue?  When looking at TAWOBA armors in BodySlide, I notice there is no option for male presets?  All it has are female presets.  Should there be an option for male bodies?

And as far as pathing goes, there definitely seems to be an issue.  BodySlide is saying they're being saved to Skyrim/Data/Meshes, but I don't even have that folder.  Mine is ran through MO2, and all my meshes are in ModOrganizer/Skyrim/overwrite/meshes/yada yada.  Are you saying those should be in the mods folder instead?  And, should BodySlide be reporting the files going to MO2 instead of Skyrim/Data/Meshes?

Thank you again for your assistance and patience.

 

EDIT:
If I look in the actual Mods folder in MO2, each of the armor / clothing mods does have it's own Meshes folder, in the TAWOBAE meshes it does show what I would assume to be both male and female .nifs?  An example would be bikiguard_f_0.nif and then bikiguard_m_0.nif.  I don't know if that information helps at all?

Edited June 25, 2024 by nunyabidnez

[monty359]

26 minutes ago, nunyabidnez said:

So, quick question and it may be the root of my issue?  When looking at TAWOBA armors in BodySlide, I notice there is no option for male presets?  All it has are female presets.  Should there be an option for male bodies?

 

There should be preset options for male bodies. You need to have a male body installed and if still not available you will need to add your male outfits to the HIMBO group (HIMBO group comes with the HIMBO body, just like CBBE group with the female body). If you do not know how to do that, this link should help.

https://github.com/ousnius/BodySlide-and-Outfit-Studio/wiki/Group-Manager

 

32 minutes ago, nunyabidnez said:

And as far as pathing goes, there definitely seems to be an issue.  BodySlide is saying they're being saved to Skyrim/Data/Meshes, but I don't even have that folder.  Mine is ran through MO2, and all my meshes are in ModOrganizer/Skyrim/overwrite/meshes/yada yada.  Are you saying those should be in the mods folder instead?  And, should BodySlide be reporting the files going to MO2 instead of Skyrim/Data/Meshes?

 

Those are relative paths, because you use MO2, everything, that is created by an external tool, that is started from MO2 UI and does not exist yet, lands in the Overwrite folder.

You found the overwrite folder. Go to meshes\armors\shitty and look, if there is for every .nif file, that ends with _0.nif and _1.nif there is a file that ends with_m_0.nif and _m_1.nif. ( _m indicates the male variant).

If so, open one of the male variants with nifscope or in bodyslide. Because of your question above, the file will be probably empty. If they are empty, resolve the problem above and buil the outfits again and check the files, untill they are not empty. When they are not empy, copy the folder meshes\armors\shitty to the same folder inside of the TAWOBAE folder in your mods folder.

 

If the _m files are not there, the building of the outfits failed and you need to resolve the problem above. For building of male outfits, be sure to see the build instuctions on the first page (specifically male skeleton)

 

 

34 minutes ago, nunyabidnez said:

EDIT:

If I look in the actual Mods folder in MO2, each of the armor / clothing mods does have it's own Meshes folder, in the TAWOBAE meshes it does show what I would assume to be both male and female .nifs?  An example would be bikiguard_f_0.nif and then bikiguard_m_0.nif.  I don't know if that information helps at all?

 

Those are the files, that do not need building in the bodyslide. After you build male and female outfits, you can copy them into this folder. Be sure, that the folder structure is preserved.

 

i hope this helps

[nunyabidnez]

1 hour ago, monty359 said:

 

There should be preset options for male bodies. You need to have a male body installed and if still not available you will need to add your male outfits to the HIMBO group (HIMBO group comes with the HIMBO body, just like CBBE group with the female body). If you do not know how to do that, this link should help.

https://github.com/ousnius/BodySlide-and-Outfit-Studio/wiki/Group-Manager

 

 

Those are relative paths, because you use MO2, everything, that is created by an external tool, that is started from MO2 UI and does not exist yet, lands in the Overwrite folder.

You found the overwrite folder. Go to meshes\armors\shitty and look, if there is for every .nif file, that ends with _0.nif and _1.nif there is a file that ends with_m_0.nif and _m_1.nif. ( _m indicates the male variant).

If so, open one of the male variants with nifscope or in bodyslide. Because of your question above, the file will be probably empty. If they are empty, resolve the problem above and buil the outfits again and check the files, untill they are not empty. When they are not empy, copy the folder meshes\armors\shitty to the same folder inside of the TAWOBAE folder in your mods folder.

 

If the _m files are not there, the building of the outfits failed and you need to resolve the problem above. For building of male outfits, be sure to see the build instuctions on the first page (specifically male skeleton)

 

 

 

Those are the files, that do not need building in the bodyslide. After you build male and female outfits, you can copy them into this folder. Be sure, that the folder structure is preserved.

 

i hope this helps

I'm not sure if I'm explaining myself right, and I really apologize for that and not being able to express what I'm saying well, lol.  I'm not technically savvy enough to adequately detail what I'm observing.  This screenshot is what I was talking about when it comes to presets:

When I look at just one of the TAWOBAE armors, it only pops up female presets for the armor.  But, I have both SoS and HIMBO male bodies installed, with options for HIMBO

And there are a ton more HIMBO options for various armors and clothes.  So, I'm thinking that I have the correct bodies and presets installed?  Again, I hate to be monopolizing your time and I apologize for not grasping the guidance you're giving.  Thank you again.

[monty359]

14 minutes ago, nunyabidnez said:

I'm not sure if I'm explaining myself right, and I really apologize for that and not being able to express what I'm saying well, lol.  I'm not technically savvy enough to adequately detail what I'm observing.  This screenshot is what I was talking about when it comes to presets:

When I look at just one of the TAWOBAE armors, it only pops up female presets for the armor.  But, I have both SoS and HIMBO male bodies installed, with options for HIMBO

And there are a ton more HIMBO options for various armors and clothes.  So, I'm thinking that I have the correct bodies and presets installed?  Again, I hate to be monopolizing your time and I apologize for not grasping the guidance you're giving.  Thank you again.

yes, i was talking of the same, you have the correct bodies installed, CBBE and HIMBO, now you have to add the HIMBO outfits to the HIMBO group. take a look at the github link

 

Are sure you installed TAWOBAE mod? because in the first picture the outfit is named TAWOBA ebony. This is the naming of the original mod. I am not at my pc now, but i think in my mod  i named the femal outfits either CBBE 3BA Ebony or CBBE Ebony (see picture).

 

 

If you installed correct mod, you should have TheAmazingWorldofBikinniArmorExtended.esp on your right side in the MO2 UI. would you please double check this?

[nunyabidnez]

1 hour ago, monty359 said:

yes, i was talking of the same, you have the correct bodies installed, CBBE and HIMBO, now you have to add the HIMBO outfits to the HIMBO group. take a look at the github link

 

Are sure you installed TAWOBAE mod? because in the first picture the outfit is named TAWOBA ebony. This is the naming of the original mod. I am not at my pc now, but i think in my mod  i named the femal outfits either CBBE 3BA Ebony or CBBE Ebony (see picture).

 

 

If you installed correct mod, you should have TheAmazingWorldofBikinniArmorExtended.esp on your right side in the MO2 UI. would you please double check this?

I do indeed have the appropriate .esp loaded and active in MO2.  Finally figured out the group manager (button was hidden until I widened the screen, lol), and it appears that I have the HIMBO TAWOBA outifits?  Was that what you were asking?

[monty359]

2 minutes ago, nunyabidnez said:

I do indeed have the appropriate .esp loaded and active in MO2.  Finally figured out the group manager (button was hidden until I widened the screen, lol), and it appears that I have the HIMBO TAWOBA outifits?  Was that what you were asking?

 

Yes! there should be also a "HIMBO Core Physics" group. You need to open it.

 

Take a look at the picture

Spoiler

 

 

When opened, you should see something like in the picture. Then follow the procedure:

1. Click on HIMBO

2. enter in the outfit filter "HIMBO SE". Now in the window below you see every outfit, that has HIMBO SE in the name. Select every outfit in the window (use click and then shift click to mark all entries, just like in windows). Click the <<Add button below.

3. If you have done everything correct, you should see the outfit names in the "Members" window.

4. Save your work and close the group manager.

 

In order to load the data, Bodyslide need to be restarted.

 

Now you should see the male TAWOBAE outfits and be able to build them with your preset.

 

 

[nunyabidnez]

1 hour ago, monty359 said:

 

Yes! there should be also a "HIMBO Core Physics" group. You need to open it.

 

Take a look at the picture

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

When opened, you should see something like in the picture. Then follow the procedure:

1. Click on HIMBO

2. enter in the outfit filter "HIMBO SE". Now in the window below you see every outfit, that has HIMBO SE in the name. Select every outfit in the window (use click and then shift click to mark all entries, just like in windows). Click the <<Add button below.

3. If you have done everything correct, you should see the outfit names in the "Members" window.

4. Save your work and close the group manager.

 

In order to load the data, Bodyslide need to be restarted.

 

Now you should see the male TAWOBAE outfits and be able to build them with your preset.

 

 

You are indeed a saint.  Unfortunately, it seems to have inverted my issue?  Before, I had a body but no armor and no hands or feet.  Now, I have armor, but I appear to have no body at all, just the head and neck, and a huge flopping dong hanging out of the armor.  I'm assuming that's related to this issue as well?  If not, I'll resume my efforts elsewhere and stop taking so much of your time.