Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[Hex Bolt]

9 hours ago, Gamora1435 said:

Hi, there's a problem with the “Pony Errands” quest regarding “Deliver this letter to the Jarl's steward.” When the quest is assigned, it doesn't actually start; instead, there's an endless loop of dialogue with Mistress until she finally assigns the quest: “Deliver this letter to a merchant, but I won't tell you which one.” Then the quest starts normally. So I can't do the quest to deliver the letter to the Jarl's steward (this happened in Whiterun; haven't tested other cities yet). Is there a solution to fix this problem?

I don't see a problem with the conversation logic, and this problem has not been reported before, so it might be something wrong in your game.  Presumably, you're using a translated version of the mod, so possibly the translation process created an error.  This is how the conversation should work:

 

- Introduction and adding pony gear.

- Eventually, the owner describes the task ("Take this letter of credit to the jarl's steward").

- You will see a new quest objective, "Take a letter of credit to the city's steward and return with a coin sack."

- The owner finishes with "I'm giving you 3 hours", followed by "Trot trot" and conversation ends.

 

What happened differently for you?

 

9 hours ago, Gamora1435 said:

I like the new features like pet play (I miss getting a tail), but in town the running speed is really slowed down a lot. 

By default, the pet suit speed is very slow, but this mod helps you, increasing your speed by temporarily changing your setting in the Devious Devices MCM for hobble skirt speed debuff.  It should still be slow for the first person you greet (but not painfully slow), then you get to move somewhat faster for the next 3 people.  If you started with large value for the speed debuff setting in Devious Devices, you will still move slow.  You can adjust that setting to move faster.

[Gamora1435]

8 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

I don't see a problem with the conversation logic, and this problem has not been reported before, so it might be something wrong in your game.  Presumably, you're using a translated version of the mod, so possibly the translation process created an error.  This is how the conversation should work:

 

- Introduction and adding pony gear.

- Eventually, the owner describes the task ("Take this letter of credit to the jarl's steward").

- You will see a new quest objective, "Take a letter of credit to the city's steward and return with a coin sack."

- The owner finishes with "I'm giving you 3 hours", followed by "Trot trot" and conversation ends.

 

What happened differently for you?

 

By default, the pet suit speed is very slow, but this mod helps you, increasing your speed by temporarily changing your setting in the Devious Devices MCM for hobble skirt speed debuff.  It should still be slow for the first person you greet (but not painfully slow), then you get to move somewhat faster for the next 3 people.  If you started with large value for the speed debuff setting in Devious Devices, you will still move slow.  You can adjust that setting to move faster.

Hi, I get exactly the same dialogue you described, except that after “trot trot,” no new quest appears in the journal—instead, I get the message “Your mistress beckons to you.” Then the dialogue starts over, except this time I'm already naked and equipped, so the owner just tightens the straps (of the pony harness). This repeats until I get the task to pick up a package from a merchant within 4 hours. I also went to the steward once after “trott trott” and spoke to him, but there was no dialogue option for the pony quest (my owner followed me all the way to Dragonfest, too). I’m not going to start a new game right now (I have about 200 mods installed and about 50 animation/voice packs). With a new game, it takes about 3–4 days of work to reinstall everything. (For example, you can’t uninstall Naked Defeat in the middle of a game.) Then I’d also have to get the Submissive score to 50 or 70 to start the Pony Quest. So I’ll just live with it for this playthrough. 

You’re right about the running speed. I’ve significantly slowed down the running speed for Hobbledress in the ZAZ menu, DD, and wherever else it could be adjusted, because otherwise I wouldn’t notice the debuff when, for example, Cursed Loot equips me with something like that. Also, the “No Running Indoors” option is already active for the Woof Quest right now.

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A suggestion: if possible, equip the hand devices with a straitjacket as an alternative to the jokes/armbinders.
Thank you very much for this great mod and all the work that went into developing it.

 

Just for fun, here’s my mod list (too much work for you to check the load order in detail right now, but it can definitely be optimized).

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mod list from 2026.03.27

 

 

[FateElf]

6 hours ago, Gamora1435 said:

no new quest appears in the journal

I’ve run into similar issues before when using other mods. In my case, it turned out that a translation patch had translated some scripts, which prevented the quest from being detected properly. I’m not sure if you’re using a translation, but you could try installing the original English version and see whether that fixes the issue.

6 hours ago, Gamora1435 said:

With a new game, it takes about 3–4 days of work to reinstall everything.

It’s actually not as complicated as it sounds. I have more than a thousand mods installed myself — it just takes some time to reconfigure the MCM menus in a new save. But don’t worry, I’m not suggesting that you have to do the same. I just tend to start new saves pretty often when troubleshooting bugs like this. Because of that, my character sometimes hasn’t even made it to Bleak Falls Barrow for months at a time, haha.

[IBAGadget]

9 hours ago, Gamora1435 said:

With a new game, it takes about 3–4 days of work to reinstall everything.

Umm, you don't have to remove and re-install all your mods to start a new game. Just go to the main game menu and select 'New Game'

 

And you can certainly disable the esp for Naked Defeat (you don't have to actually uninstall it) before you start a new game, just remember to re-enable it before you go back to your old save where it was active.

[shrtjsrtj]

I had the exact same issue as Gamora1435 with the Pony Errands in Whiterun last week, and I do mean exact. Bimbos of Skyrim was doing one of its events at the time where whenever I spoke to someone it was dialogue about Bimbos stuff, so I just chalked it up to the Bimbos thing messing up the Lola quest and moved on. This is on an untranslated version of Lola. 

[Hex Bolt]

13 hours ago, Gamora1435 said:

I get exactly the same dialogue you described, except that after “trot trot,” no new quest appears in the journal—instead, I get the message “Your mistress beckons to you.”

 

3 hours ago, shrtjsrtj said:

I had the exact same issue as Gamora1435 with the Pony Errands in Whiterun last week, and I do mean exact. Bimbos of Skyrim was doing one of its events at the time where whenever I spoke to someone it was dialogue about Bimbos stuff, so I just chalked it up to the Bimbos thing messing up the Lola quest and moved on. This is on an untranslated version of Lola. 

 

Thank you all for the reports, especially Gamora1435's detailed description.  Looking at the quest again today, I found the problem, a hard-to-see typing mistake that I made in 2.1.17 while editing the quest.  It's the kind of thing that you can look at a dozen times, and it looks right -- until you notice the one extra character.  Since this is a serious error, I will publish an update today.  I apologize for the trouble and thank you all again for reporting the problem.

[Hex Bolt]

Version 2.1.19

 

Fixed:  For the Pony Express quest, the steward delivery task broke due to a typo introduced in 2.1.17. 
Fixed:  Domestic events will no longer start while you're in heavy bondage.

[Gamora1435]

1 hour ago, Hex Bolt said:

Version 2.1.19

 

Fixed:  For the Pony Express quest, the steward delivery task broke due to a typo introduced in 2.1.17. 
Fixed:  Domestic events will no longer start while you're in heavy bondage.

Hi, thank you so much for finding the bug and, above all, for releasing a fix for it so quickly.
I spent the last three hours first removing the “Public Whore” mod, but the bug was still there, so I created a Papyrus log showing where the bug occurs, (lots of restarts until I finally got the quest with the steward. I saved there and then restarted even more times to get the steward quest again in the dialogue loop for a Papyrus log of the error.) I’m logging in right now to post the logs, but to my delight, the error has already been fixed. 
If anyone is still interested in the Papyrus log, just send a quick message in the thread—I’ll check back over the next few days.

Huge thanks for this mod and all the work. Submissive Lola is one of the best mods I have with the fewest issues, and it’s a lot of fun.

Stay kinky, have fun

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[Gamora1435]

2 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

Version 2.1.19

 

Fixed:  For the Pony Express quest, the steward delivery task broke due to a typo introduced in 2.1.17. 
Fixed:  Domestic events will no longer start while you're in heavy bondage.

Hey again, I just played the Steward quest with the fix. It worked perfectly (a happy submissive pony Lola😁, see picture). Just one small issue at the end: after reporting to Mistress, she says to unequip the pony gear now. -- nothing happened -- . The quest is considered complete. There’s also no more dialogue option for the pony with Mistress. On my first attempt, the steward equipped me with a chastity belt when I spoke to him (a result of “Devious Interest” or “Devious Cursed Loot,” if you speak to an NPC who is visibly bound). I thought it was because of that, so I played through it again this time without any additional devices. But after finishing the quest, it wasn't unequipped by the Mistress again (see 2nd image). It's a minor bug. Quickly freed with the right keys; after taking off the boots, no more pony stance either (I think it's funny, so now I have the pony gear in my inventory for more fun😜). But it's definitely not intended.
Funny!!

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[Gamora1435]

Sorry i misplaced the second picture.

[Hex Bolt]

34 minutes ago, Gamora1435 said:

I just played the Steward quest with the fix. It worked perfectly (a happy submissive pony Lola😁, see picture). Just one small issue at the end: after reporting to Mistress, she says to unequip the pony gear now. -- nothing happened -- . The quest is considered complete.

When she says, "Now let's get you out of that pony gear", the pony devices should be removed and the quest completes.  It sounds like the quest completed, but none of the devices were removed.  If the conversation got that far, I don't know what would cause that.  The quest remembers which devices were equipped at the beginning of the quest, and it will only unequip those devices (different pony boots will not be unequipped), but if nothing changed those devices during the quest, it should work okay.

 

If there are more reports, maybe I can find a problem, but the bug that I just fixed occurred while I was making a change to one small part of the quest unrelated to the devices, so unfortunately, I don't know why that happened to you.

[Gamora1435]

3 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

When she says, "Now let's get you out of that pony gear", the pony devices should be removed and the quest completes.  It sounds like the quest completed, but none of the devices were removed.  If the conversation got that far, I don't know what would cause that.  The quest remembers which devices were equipped at the beginning of the quest, and it will only unequip those devices (different pony boots will not be unequipped), but if nothing changed those devices during the quest, it should work okay.

 

If there are more reports, maybe I can find a problem, but the bug that I just fixed occurred while I was making a change to one small part of the quest unrelated to the devices, so unfortunately, I don't know why that happened to you.

Hey, don't worry too much about it. I tested the fix using a save file where I was already in pony form (and stuck in a loop). Plus, I'd already spent a long time working on the Papyrus log before that. Actually, I probably shouldn't be asking about a potential bug on the forum without testing it more thoroughly (I'm still a “silly user” and a newbie when it comes to mods). And if the undressing thing with Mistress really is just a minor bug, you can cheat your way through it using the console, or I’d use the debug menu from another mod in that case. Otherwise, I don’t like cheating (who needs mods if you’re just cheating anyway?). Spoiler alert

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konsole "player unequip all" or debug menu from mod "devious followers"

 

Have fun, and thanks again for your work i go back to playing.

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[Hex Bolt]

12 minutes ago, Gamora1435 said:

Spoiler alert

If the quest is still running (which in your case it was not), the pony girl book tells you a way to get out of the pony gear as an emergency fix.  It was probably just due to the way you were testing then.  Thanks for the additional information.  Have fun!

[mr wolf]

i have a issue when the mistress will say my character is making   progress and ask a question   i answer the the 2 answers  and they say i deserve a reward nothing will happen they just walk away and if i talk them again they ask the same question . also some  of bondage gear doesn't come off  like the iron collar with anal hook and the armbinder 

 

Edited March 30 by mr wolf

[Hex Bolt]

25 minutes ago, mr wolf said:

some  of bondage gear doesn't come off  like the iron collar with anal hook and the armbinder

The anal hook is from kalmah's add-on and it's known to have device conflicts.  That's why I state on the mod page, "It is outdated and might not work right.  Use at your own risk."  It's probably the reason why some of your devices won't come off.

 

30 minutes ago, mr wolf said:

i have a issue when the mistress will say my character is making   progress and ask a question   i answer the the 2 answers  and they say i deserve a reward nothing will happen they just walk away and if i talk them again they ask the same question .

I don't know what would cause that.  I've never seen it happen.  The reward is sex with owner, then the quest ends.  I suppose if the game gets stuck trying to start the sex scene, the quest might never end, but I've never heard of SexLab getting stuck indefinitely.  You might try pressing SexLab's animation selection hotkey ("0" by default) to see it just needs help choosing an animation.

 

If nothing works, you can force the quest to end using the console: "StopQuest vkjOwnerComment".

[mr wolf]

okay thank you very much 

[ganluchun]

I can customize the minimum daily service frequency and sexual intercourse frequency in MCM. This is great！！！But I hope to add more conditions. For example, whipping, cleaning boots, and electric shock punishment.

When the slave's performance is not good enough, it will prompt 'service time has not decreased', which I think has no practical effect. Can you increase some penalties? 

[CaptainJ03]

1 hour ago, ganluchun said:

When the slave's performance is not good enough, it will prompt 'service time has not decreased', which I think has no practical effect. Can you increase some penalties? 

It's been a while since I played an underperforming slave, but I remember getting a whipping for not fulfilling the quota. With punishing lashes you really want to avoid getting whipped.

[Hex Bolt]

6 hours ago, ganluchun said:

When the slave's performance is not good enough, it will prompt 'service time has not decreased', which I think has no practical effect.

Not for very long contracts, but for short ones when you only have a few days left (a scenario that many players seem to like), losing out on reducing the remaining time by a day is significant.

 

6 hours ago, ganluchun said:

Can you increase some penalties?

Failure to meet your daily quotas also reduces your score and results in a whipping.

[shrtjsrtj]

13 hours ago, ganluchun said:

When the slave's performance is not good enough, it will prompt 'service time has not decreased', which I think has no practical effect. Can you increase some penalties? 

On top of what other have said, if you have a daily allowance I think you don't get that either.

 

Money is too easy to get in Skyrim, so I just have the owner take it all and live off an allowance. If there's something expensive I want, the mod allows you to beg to use the owners cash I think once a day. Do that and you'll have an extra penalty.

 

That said, I do wish there were more things to do if you're an unruly slave. If you fail down to the minimum score, things can get a bit repetitive on the climb back up.

Edited March 31 by shrtjsrtj

[Hex Bolt]

2 minutes ago, shrtjsrtj said:

That said, I do wish there were more things to do if you're an unruly slave. If you fail down to the minimum score, things can get a bit repetitive on the climb back up.

Any suggestions?

[shrtjsrtj]

4 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

Any suggestions?

I'll have to think on that.

 

First thought is to make the middle responses to things give a better score increase at low levels. If your score is in the negative, suddenly saying you're the most subby sub doesn't make sense, saying the middle response does show growth though. Maybe even occasionally punish or give a lesser score bonus for the most submissive answer, claiming it's not sincere.

[Hex Bolt]

4 minutes ago, shrtjsrtj said:

First thought is to make the middle responses to things give a better score increase at low levels. If your score is in the negative, suddenly saying you're the most subby sub doesn't make sense, saying the middle response does show growth though.

Interesting idea, thanks.  I'll add it to the list for further thought.

[LLCoolTJ]

So is there any way to use fast travel while a slave? Every time I get whipped after using a carriage or fast traveling. Also, can I become a sub of someone again after stopping? Do I need to dismiss them the re-heir them? I didn't see anything about either of those options, but I may just have the settings for frequency of offering self to master wrong. Oh and I had checked but the end of day time was 1900 but the time I was getting whipped was 0700.

[Hex Bolt]

14 minutes ago, LLCoolTJ said:

So is there any way to use fast travel while a slave? Every time I get whipped after using a carriage or fast traveling.

Yes.  You're getting punished for failing your daily quotas.

- Time your travel for a point in the day when you've met your quotas.

- Make shorter fast travel hops and offer service after each hop.

- Reduce your daily quotas.

- Suspend the mod before fast traveling, then wait a minute before reenabling it after travel.

 

18 minutes ago, LLCoolTJ said:

Also, can I become a sub of someone again after stopping?

Yes, though your former master won't accept you back for 24 hours.

 

18 minutes ago, LLCoolTJ said:

Do I need to dismiss them the re-hire them?

No.

 

19 minutes ago, LLCoolTJ said:

I had checked but the end of day time was 1900 but the time I was getting whipped was 0700.

If fast travel takes you past the end of your service day, you'll get punished soon after arrival, which could be many hours later.