Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[Hex Bolt]

I'll mention a few properties of the Shieldmaiden's Ring that aren't immediately obvious.

 

When you put it on, a random thought message appears.  Depending on whether you're a slave at the time, the thoughts vary.  When you remove the ring, a different thought message appears.  Because it only occurs on equip or unequip, there are just a handful of each set of messages, but you can customize them by editing the language translations file (search for RingEquip).

 

Wearing the ring will sometimes prompt you to spontaneously tell someone that you like being a slave.  People don't really know how to respond to this odd behavior, so their responses will be like yeah, whatever (I made use of voiced vanilla dialog).  You feel an urge to tell others that being a slave is best for you, but you're not forced to do it.  Doing so earns you a small score increase if your owner is nearby (it doesn't count if the owner can't hear it).  Because these are lines that you speak, supporting customization is awkward, so you can't change them without editing the mod.  I made them general enough that they should always be appropriate,

 

When you see the good slave topic appear, it persists until you use it, so you can even wait to tell someone else who might be more appropriate.  The urge has a lengthy cooldown, so you'll only be able to do it 2 or 3 times a day, but it's easy score points.  Time spent not wearing the ring counts toward the cooldown, so you might blurt out how happy you are to be a slave in the morning, swap out the ring for adventuring during the day, then feel that urge again after you return to town and put the ring back on.

 

The ring doesn't compel, but it does exert an influence.  It doesn't make you a good slave, but it does sooth away rebellious impulses.  While wearing it, a slave won't want to strongly object to the owner's commands.  In practical terms, wearing it blocks most of the strong "I hate it" responses, though the ones for dislike or reluctance are still available.

 

If you notice any strongly negative responses that I missed, please let me know.  I had to look through a lot of conversation.  I found around 70 lines that the ring will block.  I have already found and fixed for the next update the Pony Express defiance line ("Oh no, not that pony girl outfit again!  I won't do it!!").

[nov9000]

This update is really great. However, I can’t seem to trigger the “Woof!” quest no matter what I do. Are there any specific conditions that need to be met, or could there be a conflict that’s preventing it from triggering?

[Hex Bolt]

34 minutes ago, nov9000 said:

Are there any specific conditions that need to be met, or could there be a conflict that’s preventing it from triggering?

Score 50+, outside in a hold capital or indoors in a palace, between 8 AM and 6 PM, Woof cooldown setting is nonzero, Fashion Slave not running, not wearing a DD suit (including catsuits), or a gag, or heavy bondage, or a chastity belt that blocks anal, or inflatable plugs.

Edited December 17, 2025 by Hex Bolt

[nov9000]

7 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

Score 50+, outside in a hold capital or indoors in a palace, between 8 AM and 6 PM, Woof cooldown setting is nonzero, Fashion Slave not running, not wearing a DD suit (including catsuits), or a gag, or heavy bondage, or a chastity belt that blocks anal, or inflatable plugs.

Thank you. I’ve tried it, but it still doesn’t work. I’m wondering if using DCL DDNG 0.4.2 could be the reason why it can’t be triggered.

[Hex Bolt]

43 minutes ago, nov9000 said:

I’m wondering if using DCL DDNG 0.4.2 could be the reason why it can’t be triggered.

That seems unlikely.  The quest conditions are mostly keyword checks.  It's improbable that something would add a wrong DD keyword (like adding the gag keyword to a collar).  You might just be unlucky.  Many SLTR events trigger randomly after the cooldown.  Woof competes with several other events, such as I Am Famous, Confessions, and Pony Express.

[xyzxyz]

What mod is required for the pet and kitty collar for the playmate? They weren't equipped. Normal collars like iron ring work fine.

[xyzxyz]

How much can I influence the submission level of the playmate? I always choose to be on top when she wants sex but mostly she just refuses and starts in the male position but without a strap-on. Should there be a lesbian animation playing instead?

[Hex Bolt]

2 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

What mod is required for the pet and kitty collar for the playmate? They weren't equipped. Normal collars like iron ring work fine.

DD 5.2.  Pet collar is xx04F914 in Devious Devices Expansion.  Kitty is xx04F912.

 

1 hour ago, xyzxyz said:

How much can I influence the submission level of the playmate?

Just through your sex dialog choices with the playmate.  Dominating the playmate is an uphill struggle.  Keep choosing the "on top" option.  The playmate will usually refuse, but it gets easier after you've had some successes.

 

If you choose submissive responses OR if you postpone sex with the playmate enough times that she forces sex, the playmate becomes dominant to you after about 3 times and that relationship effectively becomes permanent (you'll never be successful being on top). 

 

1 hour ago, xyzxyz said:

I always choose to be on top when she wants sex but mostly she just refuses and starts in the male position but without a strap-on. Should there be a lesbian animation playing instead?

Sex with the playmate just uses the "Sex" search tag, so almost any animation is valid.  If you weren't successful in getting the top position, the playmate will be in the male position.

 

If you want a lesbian sex, you can select a different animation in the SexLab menu.  You can also give preferred animations that you want to see with the playmate the "LolaPlaymate" tag, which will be used according to the setting for favorite animation chance.  There's also the "Female playmates use strap-ons" setting, which will try to select MF animations for vaginal sex with a female Lola or anal sex with a male Lola.

 

If a MF animation doesn't equip a strap-on, that's outside SLTR's control, possibly an issue with SexLab configuration (check the Females Use Strap-Ons setting) or whether the animation is defined for a female in the male position to use a strap-on ("strap_on": true in the json file).

Edited December 19, 2025 by Hex Bolt

[xyzxyz]

16 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

19 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

 

DD 5.2.  Pet collar is xx04F914 in Devious Devices Expansion.  Kitty is xx04F912.

There is some kind of conflict with Unforgiving Devices so they can't be equipped.

Edited December 20, 2025 by xyzxyz

[xyzxyz]

1 hour ago, Hex Bolt said:

There's also the "Female playmates use strap-ons" setting, which will try to select MF animations for vaginal sex with a female Lola or anal sex with a male Lola.

That was standart 15. Whenever I failed to get ontop the playmate started in the male position but without strap-on. Do I have to set it to 100 to work?

Edited December 19, 2025 by xyzxyz

[Hex Bolt]

41 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

There is some kind of coflict with Unforgiving Devices so they can't be equipped.

SLTR just equips these standard collars in the normal way for a DD device, with the LockDevice function, so that's a problem for Unforgiving Devices to resolve.  You might want to mention the problem to the mod's author and provide your screenshot.

 

23 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

Whenever I failed to get ontop the playmate started in the male position but without strap-on.

As I mentioned previously, a female equipping or not equipping a strap-on is handled by SexLab using the animation's json data (which might not have included the strap_on tag), not SLTR.

 

35 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

Do I have to set it to 100 to work?

If "it" means SLTR's "Female playmates use strap-ons" setting, then no.  That setting does not make the playmate equip a strap-on.  It just controls whether a MF animation is forced.  If you're having trouble with females not using strap-ons, change the SLTR setting to zero.  I'm not sure if that will eliminate the possibility of SexLab selecting a MF animation, but it will prevent SLTR from telling SexLab to use one.

[Hex Bolt]

31 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

1 hour ago, xyzxyz said:

There is some kind of coflict with Unforgiving Devices so they can't be equipped.

SLTR just equips these standard collars in the normal way for a DD device, with the LockDevice function, so that's a problem for Unforgiving Devices to resolve.  You might want to mention the problem to the mod's author and provide your screenshot.

 

A follow-up on this.  I took a quick look at Unforgiving Devices (I've never used it).  It seems to need to patch other mods that use Devious Devices (at least some of the devices) to do what it does.  I looked at the patch for Laura's Bondage Shop.  That patch modifies quite a few records in LBS.  I don't allow other mods to alter SLTRs records (they can add, just not change or delete), so this kind of patch would not be possible for SLTR.

 

Unless the author has another way to make the mods compatible, they won't work well together.  Players will have to avoid selecting devices that are incompatible (you said that the iron ring collar worked for you) or not use SLTR and Unforgiving Devices together.  Since this problem hasn't been reported before, I'm guessing that only a few devices are actually incompatible.

Edited December 19, 2025 by Hex Bolt

[ratolas]

Just a idea, during the prostitution event, maybe add a way for Lola to service multiple people at once, it would even go well with this new report update like: "I was gangbanged by X people".

Also, thanks for this last update ❤️

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, ratolas said:

Just a idea, during the prostitution event, maybe add a way for Lola to service multiple people at once, it would even go well with this new report update like: "I was gangbanged by X people".

Radiant Prostitution does have orgy events and SLTR tracks their specific acts (oral, vaginal, anal).  I can look at the practicality of tracking "gangbangs", but that can get messy.

[patron_st]

If I only check GSPoses on the left side of mo2 and do not check _gsposes.esp on the right side, can I still use the poses from gsposes? I don’t want a large number of rings to appear in my inventory.

[kingsglaive]

Bigbasi created the latest version of the Submissive Lola Voice file. Many thanks to Bigbasi for his hard work, and we hope everyone will support and download it.

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/46129-submissive-lola-voice-files-219-2114-delta-update/

[Hex Bolt]

9 hours ago, patron_st said:

If I only check GSPoses on the left side of mo2 and do not check _gsposes.esp on the right side, can I still use the poses from gsposes? I don’t want a large number of rings to appear in my inventory.

Unfortunately, no, for reasons that I discussed here.  I got around that problem by deleting that mod's SEQ file, or you could delete its FNISRingAddScript file.

[GamerGirlPee91]

Just redownloaded after a while, nice to see this is getting occasional updates still, I cannot get the woof! Event to play though, have tried in solitude and white run, I set the cooldown to 1, and my submission is 100 and still haven’t gotten that one, all other enabled tasks have been played more than a couple times and no woof task yet 

[Hex Bolt]

59 minutes ago, GamerGirlPee91 said:

I cannot get the woof! Event to play

Another person had this problem too.  I'll look to see if I can find a cause for it.  I have found one mistake, but I didn't think it would prevent the quest from starting.  I'll retest with that change.

Edited December 22, 2025 by Hex Bolt

[Anunya]

22 hours ago, patron_st said:

If I only check GSPoses on the left side of mo2 and do not check _gsposes.esp on the right side, can I still use the poses from gsposes? I don’t want a large number of rings to appear in my inventory.

 

I typically just put all those rings in a random container at game start and never worry about it. I basically think of it as part of setting the game up - configuring MCMs, getting my character's starting kit, getting rid of excess inventory items.

 

Occasionally I sell them all (for not very many septims I'm pretty sure) and RP it as my character selling her jewelry to fund her adventuring career (or whatever it is she's doing).

[Hex Bolt]

Version 2.1.15

 

Changed:  The prostitution cooldown maximum is now 30 days (was 10 days in the previous version and 4 days prior to that).  Increased the slider interval to 0.5 days.  Increased the main town cooldown modifier slider to 30 days at half-day intervals.

 

Changed:  Owners will sometimes remind you of the reasons you gave for serving at appropriate times, such as when being zapped if you said you like pain.

 

Fixed:  The Woof! quest wasn't starting.

 

Fixed:  The book for the Shieldmaiden's Ring wasn't being added to player inventory when the ring was acquired.

 

 

If you already started the Dragonbone quest and missed out on the Shieldmaiden's Ring book, you can get it with the console (player.AddItem xx061889 1).  It's just lore.  There's no other advantage to having it.

Edited December 23, 2025 by Hex Bolt

[dokozono]

Hello! I really enjoy your mod and appreciate the work you have done.

Recently, I have started learning how to create mods myself. I am interested in trying to make an add-on for your mod (although I am not sure yet whether it will be completed or publicly released).

I would like to ask about implementing command-related events from the owner and reactions to Lola’s behavior. For example, adding new rules, punishing the player when those rules are broken, or assigning new tasks as commands.

I am currently having difficulty understanding how these systems are implemented internally. If there are specific mechanics, APIs, or script sources that are important to understand when creating add-ons, I would greatly appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction.

I apologize for contacting you out of the blue. English is not my native language, so I hope you will forgive me if my wording is awkward.

Thank you very much for your time.

[Hex Bolt]

11 hours ago, dokozono said:

Recently, I have started learning how to create mods myself. I am interested in trying to make an add-on for your mod (although I am not sure yet whether it will be completed or publicly released).

I would like to ask about implementing command-related events from the owner and reactions to Lola’s behavior. For example, adding new rules, punishing the player when those rules are broken, or assigning new tasks as commands.

Hi, you're welcome to do that, just remember that an add-on for this mod must not change any scripts in this mod or any of its records.  An add-on would use submissivelola_est.esp as its master, but it must not edit, overwrite, or replace any records in submissivelola_est.esp.  You can add tasks, rules, and conversation with new records in your add-on's ESP file.  So, if you were to open your mod in xEdit, you should not see any records in SLTR that are highlighted as modified (yellow background is the default color).

 

That means having your own top-level conversation topics, rather than adding new lines to the "Master/Mistress?" topic, having your own MCM, and creating your own Story Manager Quest Nodes instead of adding your quests to an existing SLTR node.

 

If you need a reasonable change to SLTR, such as a notification when an event finishes, just ask.  I should be able to provide what you need.

 

I have these requirements because if an add-on makes changes to SLTR, it could cause problems for players that I won't be able to figure out.  People who create mods sometimes become inactive after a while or disappear entirely (like kalmah), so I'd have no one to contact to fix something that might be breaking SLTR.  It also ensures that I can change a lot in SLTR without breaking an add-on.

 

Your content can be different (more romantic or more harsh), but events should play nicely with SLTR and other add-ons.  For example, a blocking event should be short, or it will lock out SLTR and other add-ons from starting their own tasks, possibly causing the player to fail to meet a quota or to complete a longer quest in time.  Similarly, locking Lola in restrictive devices for a long time blocks events that need Lola to be able to have sex or use her hands.

 

11 hours ago, dokozono said:

I am currently having difficulty understanding how these systems are implemented internally. If there are specific mechanics, APIs, or script sources that are important to understand when creating add-ons, I would greatly appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction.

You might look at the two more recent add-ons for examples and message me if you have a question.

[xyzxyz]

I'm in ravenrock and Working Slave started but nobody has dialogues for it. I'm in the tavern but nothing there either. Do I need to go back to the mainland?

Edit: I've tried different cities but nowhere are any dialogues for prostitution.

Edited December 24, 2025 by xyzxyz

[Hex Bolt]

26 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

Working Slave started but nobody has dialogues for it.

Are you using Radiant Prostitution?