Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[Hex Bolt]

23 minutes ago, ratolas said:

Just a small bug I've found this update, during the LolaDomSex event, the owner get stuck in a loop, repeating the same event again and again

I'd seen that too and fixed it for the next update.  "StopQuest vkjSex" will end the loop.

[lovalter]

Is it possible to hide the collar part of the runic collar and only have the magic circles showing?

[Hex Bolt]

19 minutes ago, lovalter said:

Is it possible to hide the collar part of the runic collar and only have the magic circles showing?

The circles are not part of the collar.  They work with any collar.

[lovalter]

Yeah but I'd like to have them with no collar, can I just delete the mesh or will that break something

[Hex Bolt]

6 minutes ago, lovalter said:

Yeah but I'd like to have them with no collar, can I just delete the mesh or will that break something

The custom collar option with an invisible mesh should work.

[Voronves]

Propably was answered before but i was searching for an hour and couldnt. Im getting error "Cant parse JSON file at 'Data/interface/lola/messegeformat.json' at line 1:0 - '[' or '{' expected near end of file" everything seems to work fine but im worried that im missing some interactions or messeges cuz of that.

[Hex Bolt]

5 hours ago, Voronves said:

Propably was answered before but i was searching for an hour and couldnt. Im getting error "Cant parse JSON file at 'Data/interface/lola/messegeformat.json' at line 1:0 - '[' or '{' expected near end of file" everything seems to work fine but im worried that im missing some interactions or messeges cuz of that.

Did you validate the file with https://jsonlint.com?

[Voronves]

On 3/28/2025 at 5:08 PM, Hex Bolt said:

Did you validate the file with https://jsonlint.com?

well i didnt even know such thing existed heh. But yea i did it now and it says that its valid soo not sure what to do.

[dlombu]

Can we get an option to gradually upgrade the Required Nudity Rule with increasing score? Right now it's one and done with a single threshold. I'd like to be able to, for example, have thresholds at 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, and 100, with the rule coming into effect at 50 within the Player Homes only, then at 60 PH and Inns, at 70 in Very Safe Areas, at 80 in Safe Areas, at 90 in Safe Areas and Wilderness and finally at 100 being set to Always. Even a 3-step threshold graduation would be nice: 50 Player Home and Inns, 80, Safe Areas, 100 Always. (These 3-steps would align with the Thoughts file score brackets.)

 

I could then enhance these rules with a Thoughts file with Lola knowing that her nude display is going to become more and more public as she becomes more obedient, reflecting as each new stricter version of the rule comes into effect and anticipating, dreading and fantasizing about the stricter versions that are yet to come, with the terrifying thought always lurking in the back of her mind that if she keeps being a good slave then very soon in the future she'll never be allowed to wear clothes again.

 

Also, speaking of gradual progression, I'd like to see an option to have the reverse of the gold sharing rule's score based adjustment from becoming more lenient with higher score to becoming less lenient with higher score, so I can set to it start with Lola getting more of a share in the beginning and ending with getting 0% gold share and having to ask the owner to buy anything at 100 score. Same thing with prostitution earnings share. More share at the beginning and ending with 0% at 100 score.

 

With the rules and the Kept Forever toggle set at 100 and an appropriate Thoughts file I could engineer a Lola that starts out fantasizing about slavery, slowly dips her toes into it and mostly playacting a kinky roleplay and with all sorts of options to back out, but then perversely participating in her own enslavement being fully aware that at the end of the journey she will be truly enslaved for real with everything she used to own including herself becoming property of someone else.

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, dlombu said:

Can we get an option to gradually upgrade the Required Nudity Rule with increasing score?

That's more complexity than I'd really like to get into, but I do like progression, so I will note it in the ideas list.

 

1 hour ago, dlombu said:

Also, speaking of gradual progression, I'd like to see an option to have the reverse of the gold sharing rule's score based adjustment from becoming more lenient with higher score to becoming less lenient with higher score, so I can set to it start with Lola getting more of a share in the beginning and ending with getting 0% gold share and having to ask the owner to buy anything at 100 score.

Just set the share to a negative value.

[CaptainJ03]

Not sure if this is a bug or something else.

With submission score >70 Lola got her first piercings, and her only possible answer was "I don't like them, Mistress! They're degrading."

Though I've used this answer and got rid of them as fast as I could with the last game, I am quite sure that this is the first time for this PC.

Is there something seeping from one game to another, did you get the clause wrong, or ist my Skyrim gone bonkers?

[Hex Bolt]

42 minutes ago, CaptainJ03 said:

Not sure if this is a bug or something else.

With submission score >70 Lola got her first piercings, and her only possible answer was "I don't like them, Mistress! They're degrading."

Sorry about that, that's a bug.  The last version changed the toggle for vibrating piercings into a list, so I also adjusted Lola's responses to fit what was received, but the timing for setting conditions isn't right.  I'll fix it now for the next update.

[Hex Bolt]

On 3/29/2025 at 5:23 PM, Voronves said:

But yea i did it now and it says that its valid soo not sure what to do.

The error that you mentioned can occur if you have IWantWidgets installed and it's been recognized on the Mod Integration page, but the file does not exist with that exact name in that folder.  If SLTR doesn't find the file, it will display the notification, "Cannot read Data/Interface/Lola/MessageFormat.json", and the error that you saw will appear in the console and the log file.

Edited March 30, 2025 by Hex Bolt

[Hex Bolt]

Version 2.1.13

 

I'm releasing this sooner than I'd planned because it provides two fixes that people should have.

 

Do not update while the Parade or Pony Express events are running.

 

Note:  Perceptions.json has changed (only a concern if you have edited it).  Generic fields have moved up, out of "Parade", and there are a few more pony comments.

 

New:  "Pet name" is an optional Roleplay setting.  Lola is your slave name, but your owner probably also calls you something else, such as pet, kitten, or dirty girl.  It pleases your owner to hear you use your pet name when you make requests.  At this time, it's only used for things you can ask for under the "Master/Mistress?" topic.  The pet name replaces "I" or "me".  Examples:  "May your kitten wear clothes again?" or "Please give your dirty girl the spanking she needs, Master?"  Leave this field blank to not use a pet name.

 

New:  A new Rules setting, "Allow potions during bleedout".  For a greater challenge, you can turn off your owner's ability to use combat potions while downed.

 

New & Changed:  The choices for most leather restraints have expanded where possible to include red and white colors, as well as the ebonite variants.  Some indexes have changed, so check your Devices settings.

 

Changed:  Perceptions, which are already used for the Parade event, are now also used during Pony Express.
Changed:  The automatic gold share feature now gives Lola zero gold share when score is negative.
Changed:  The MCM dance preview feature is now available for GS Poses dances.
Changed:  Combat potion logic now factors in buffs.  Heavily buffed owners are less likely to wait too long to use potions.
Changed:  Whipping scenes will prevent the spinning and overhead attack animations that would sometimes occur.
Fixed:  Domination sex scenes could get stuck.
Fixed:  The responses to receiving piercings could get limited to only disliking them.

Edited March 31, 2025 by Hex Bolt

[Hex Bolt]

A note about the conversion of the piercings toggle to a list that was in the previous version.  It's fairly flexible.  Although you'll have to do it manually, you can assign one piercings slot to be assigned initially, then later change the setting to Both and the event will eventually trigger again to equip the second slot.  Also, if you selected Both but one slot was blocked at the time by a piercing that was equipped by another mod, the event will eventually trigger again to equip the previously-blocked slot.

 

When enslavement ends, the owner will remove any piercings that he or she had equipped on you (they're valuable), but not piercings equipped by other mods or ones that you voluntarily equipped.

[Voronves]

21 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

The error that you mentioned can occur if you have IWantWidgets installed and it's been recognized on the Mod Integration page, but the file does not exist with that exact name in that folder.  If SLTR doesn't find the file, it will display the notification, "Cannot read Data/Interface/Lola/MessageFormat.json", and the error that you saw will appear in the console and the log file.

Alright got it well and working thank you very much for help  But now im thirsty for some expansion of comments i found one large json but its for female owner does someone know any good, extensive files or would like to share theirs?

[CaptainJ03]

Just a bit of positive feedback on the combination of SubLola and SLUTS Redux2 (playing on LE)

With submission score over 80 I had the Lights Out challenge, and Mistress wanted me to make a SLUTS run. I was a bit sceptical, as everything, even DDs, get unequipped - but as my hands are bound for the run, the blindfold seamlessly got equipped back, w/o negative score or anything.

After delivering the goods I was curious how the Road Trip would handle if I take another run straight away. Perfect. The quest just stays active.

 

A small remark towards SLUTS:

I would like it if the pony doesn't give any backtalk on wearing the bridle bit with either a high submission score or having done so many runs that you can assume that she likes it.

[Sabertoothtigerz89]

I have some ideas for punishment, these are just some fetish ideas I came up with while playing your amazing mod

 

1: Sleep like a dog: If you don't satisfy your owner she could demand you to not be welcome in your house or inn to sleep for the night, she will lock any of your homes for 24 in game hours.

 

2: Payment handover: Your mistress may ask you for money as a form of punishment, these values could change from 100 septims to 5000 septims.

 

3: Torture room: If your level hits rock bottom with your mistress she could send you to a cell after a loading screen where then you show up tied to a wall ( like the dark brotherhood torture victims ) and she whips you, she tries to break your will and she wont release you until she hears you apologize, you can continue to persist but that will just make her continue to whip you and ask again later.

 

4: Ball chained: if you hit your mistress she will equip a ball chain to your ankles forbidding you from being able to run for some time.

 

5: Leather leashed: if you don't satisfy your owner she will randomly walk around wherever she wants to but she will have a leash equipped on your neck collar, essentially it's impossible for you to run for some time as she walks around with you, prohibiting you of any choices for some time.

 

6: Armor and Weapons confiscation: If you reach negative levels your follower will take a random armor piece of weapon away from your inventory, she will only give it back to you if you ask nicely after reaching positive levels.

 

7: Spitting and pissing: Your owner will ocassionally want to spit or piss on you to further degrade you for her own amusement.

 

8: Unfair 1v1 brawl: your owner might want to feel herself feel like she's in charge by testing your might against her, she could ask for a 1v1 fist brawl, a 1v1 sword fight or a 1v1 magic duel, however she will hinder you, she will tie ur hands if its a 1v1 brawl nerfing your punching power, gives u wooden swords if its a 1v1 sword fight and she saps your magic only allowing you to have 20% of your magicka pool for a magic duel. You the player choose which one, if you beat her she will get angry and punish you, if you lose or let her beat you, she will gloat about how good she is, further humiliates you with words and you get positive points.

 

9: Insulting: your owner can insult you randomly dropping lines such as: "You mean nothing, your existence is only to serve me.", "Your stupid existence is to serve me, how does that make you feel lola?", "it doesn't matter who you were or what you do, you will never be me", "everything you think you own, is mine first", "everyone sees you as a slave, how does that make you feel?", "Your hair looks soo stupid", "if I want to use you i think i gotta put a bag over your head", "your puny cock is not enough to satisfy me" ( is slave is male ) "your body will have to do" ( if slave is female).

Edited April 1, 2025 by Sabertoothtigerz89

[Hex Bolt]

17 minutes ago, Sabertoothtigerz89 said:

I have some ideas for punishment, these are just some fetish ideas I came up with while playing your amazing mod

Thank you for the suggestions!

 

Sleeping on the floor or in another bed is on my ideas list.  A couple of add-ons already do something like that, but they seem to run afoul of sleep mods, so I haven't been in a hurry to introduce a potential conflict.

 

One of this mod's concepts is that owners don't punish with gold.  They might simply take yours if they need it, but not as punishment.  Owners are more concerned with your obedience.  Corporal punishment or increased prostitution quota are commonly used to punish.

 

I try not to immobilize, confine, or interfere too much with the ability to play the game, so I've stayed away from those things.  There are Roleplay settings to prevent sprinting ahead of the owner and to require walking indoors.  Because of their potential to annoy players, you have to enable those features manually, but you might do that when you think your owner is unhappy with you.

 

I'm just not interested in pissing content.  I'm not aware of spitting animations.

 

Regarding brawling, owners probably don't want to encourage your hitting them, even for a challenge.  Also, I think it would be hard to implement such a contest with proper nerfing, given the wide availability of overpowered mods that buff player magic, combat, and unarmed damage.

 

Owners do make random comments (and they can even change your hair), but the comments are more about teasing than degradation (though there's some of that too, including a line about cock size somewhere).  I'll make a note to look at adding more direct insults when score is negative.

 

Item confiscation is tricky.  It's pointless to take an inconsequential item, and there are probably critically important items that aren't marked as quest items.  Instead, I already have plans for configurable score thresholds to equip weapons, armor, robes, spells, or shouts.  That can be used to punish low score or reward reaching a certain threshold (e.g., you're limited to just Restoration spells until a certain score).

[Sabertoothtigerz89]

2 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

Thank you for the suggestions!

 

Sleeping on the floor or in another bed is on my ideas list.  A couple of add-ons already do something like that, but they seem to run afoul of sleep mods, so I haven't been in a hurry to introduce a potential conflict.

 

One of this mod's concepts is that owners don't punish with gold.  They might simply take yours if they need it, but not as punishment.  Owners are more concerned with your obedience.  Corporal punishment or increased prostitution quota are commonly used to punish.

 

I try not to immobilize, confine, or interfere too much with the ability to play the game, so I've stayed away from those things.  There are Roleplay settings to prevent sprinting ahead of the owner and to require walking indoors.  Because of their potential to annoy players, you have to enable those features manually, but you might do that when you think your owner is unhappy with you.

 

I'm just not interested in pissing content.  I'm not aware of spitting animations.

 

Regarding brawling, owners probably don't want to encourage your hitting them, even for a challenge.  Also, I think it would be hard to implement such a contest with proper nerfing, given the wide availability of overpowered mods that buff player magic, combat, and unarmed damage.

 

Owners do make random comments (and they can even change your hair), but the comments are more about teasing than degradation (though there's some of that too, including a line about cock size somewhere).  I'll make a note to look at adding more direct insults when score is negative.

 

Item confiscation is tricky.  It's pointless to take an inconsequential item, and there are probably critically important items that aren't marked as quest items.  Instead, I already have plans for configurable score thresholds to equip weapons, armor, robes, spells, or shouts.  That can be used to punish low score or reward reaching a certain threshold (e.g., you're limited to just Restoration spells until a certain score).

Thank you for reading

 

Ah I wasn't aware you were considering the locked house thing or sleeping outside.

 

The whole concept of gold being used as a bargaining chip would be to further hinder the player from being able to make emergency decisions such as buying a potion of cure disease etc, it was just a way of your owner controlling more what you do, thus confiscating gold could be a smart way of hindering general progress.

 

I like your approach to not interfering with the ability of course, that's why options are always important  the more options we can toggle on or off the better! Some people don't want to be too bothered by your owners demands when playing, others like me don't mind it, and do it for the roleplay fun aspect of it :3 My point was the actual leash itself being present, I appreciate the fact you added the feature to not get too far from the owner, but if someone who makes items such as leashes existed i'd love to see it implemented for a hardcore option in roleplay.

 

understandable  and yea i don't know any spitting animations, i just thought you would be interested because sometimes the owner can ask the player to take a piss.

 

Right I understand Dx yea it would be a bit silly of me to demand a 1v1 brawling fight, this was a wild idea i had to implement the owner to feel good about him/herself.

 

I know they do make random comments but i'm happy you heard my ideas

 

Alright understandable :3 I have a question and another suggestion.

 

The question is what did you think about the torture cell idea?

The suggestion i forgot to add was what if when we reach the max score of 101 our owner tells us to go to a random dungeon where an item spawns inside a reward chest that will give our owner permanent health, magicka, stamina and other buffs? A sort of miniquest for us to look forward to in satisfying our owner to the max  

[Hex Bolt]

13 minutes ago, Sabertoothtigerz89 said:

Ah I wasn't aware you were considering the locked house thing or sleeping outside.

Not being locked outside (the owner might want you during the night), just not being able to sleep in the main bed.  However, the potential for conflicts has kept it at a lower priority.

 

18 minutes ago, Sabertoothtigerz89 said:

i just thought you would be interested because sometimes the owner can ask the player to take a piss.

That's from the original mod.  It still exists, but I just don't plan to add to it.

 

25 minutes ago, Sabertoothtigerz89 said:

The question is what did you think about the torture cell idea?

Torture isn't an area I want to explore with this mod.  A clever, resourceful owner should be able to use devices and restrictions to convince a slave to do better.  I keep meaning to do more with negative score territory, but that too has been a lower priority because Lola isn't expected to stay there long.  It's like a penalty box in sports like hockey.  You're there for a little while if you misbehave badly, then you get out.

 

32 minutes ago, Sabertoothtigerz89 said:

The suggestion i forgot to add was what if when we reach the max score of 101 our owner tells us to go to a random dungeon where an item spawns inside a reward chest that will give our owner permanent health, magicka, stamina and other buffs? A sort of miniquest for us to look forward to in satisfying our owner to the max

Maximum score is 100.  Some sliders go up to 101 so that you can set them to "never".  There is a one-time quest at max score.  You might not have seen it yet.  We only discuss it inside spoiler sections here so players can experience it fresh without, well, spoilers.  I'm not fond of buffing followers because many of them are already quite strong.  Owners do get a stamina buff for a while after whipping you.

 

One way to significantly help an owner is to use the combat potions feature.  It has limitations to keep it from being too strong, but it makes a real difference.  If you're not into alchemy, owners will use standard potions.  It keeps you thinking about your owner's wellbeing. 

[blahity]

I think with more unique dialogue being added for things like Lydia and Jordis being your PC's Mistress it might also be a good time to add dialogue between the PC's spouse and their Mistress (with a bonus line if they are your housecarl). It would be really fun for those NPCs that you can marry but can't be followers like Temba or everyone's favorite drug dealer Ysolda. There is an option for 'Follower reaction' that could be repurposed to include a 'Spouse Reaction'.

 

Given that some PC's don't marry or marry their Mistress, I don't think a full on quest involving a spouse is warranted, but a dialogue option with a tweak-able reaction is small enough to still feel like there's a reaction to your situation.

[CaptainJ03]

10 hours ago, Sabertoothtigerz89 said:

but if someone who makes items such as leashes existed i'd love to see it implemented for a hardcore option in roleplay.

There are none. I've seen requests for leashes since I discovered DDs years ago, but never seen any. Considering how difficult it seems to be to add some physics to chains that are attached to the same body, imagine that for two discrete persons, one running on AI, the other with free will.

I really like the 'forced walking' sequences, where you have no control over your PC, like in Lauras Bondage Shop or SLUTS - but those have predefined places where you need to go. Looking at POP you'll see that it rarely works when you're just randomly outdoors, so I don't expect this to ever be implemented here.

[belegost]

On 3/31/2025 at 12:47 AM, Hex Bolt said:

The error that you mentioned can occur if you have IWantWidgets installed

Or Slavetats. Although the line is different, and the message only occurs once after starting new game, then goes away.

[belegost]

10 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

That's from the original mod.  It still exists, but I just don't plan to add to it.

I did wonder why it was there. Considering the direction you developed your version into it feels weird and out of place (not to mention its fucking disgusting).