wip Real-Time Body Physics (DirectX 11)

[alexlll]

Yesterday you posted two versions of the mod. In these versions there was a new parameter -angular. In the first version it worked, but in the second version it stopped working. Commands - test angular x not work, rtbp commander settings also does not affect anything.

[jekyll98]

17 hours ago, alexlll said:

In the new version, I can’t set it up so that the chest and ass move when walking. This is how I could set it up on the previous version: 

 

how did you get the gui to open in game?

[cableguy7uk]

6 hours ago, SixThreeEight said:

i just installed this again, and i immediately got this error..........basic_ios::clear: iostream error. i click ok and it ctd. 

GOT THAT TOO  HAD TO REMOVE dll from bin to work. without  RTBP

[alexlll]

4 hours ago, jekyll98 said:

how did you get the gui to open in game?

In the game settings you need to set the windowed full screen.

[jekyll98]

8 hours ago, alexlll said:

In the game settings you need to set the windowed full screen.

so sims needs to be in windowed mode?

Edited June 10, 2023 by jekyll98
typo

[Maverick83]

On 6/9/2023 at 7:27 PM, CPVC said:

Ok, lets try this again. I've updated the new version of RTBP and replaced the DLL with a build where a ton of unnecessary code that I had written for debugging was removed. Hopefully this works better for you guys. So very sorry about the difficulties. Software development is hard.

no need to sorry about, you have brought us simmers and skyrim players great bouncing joy xD So you have our thanks even tho there could be some crashing, we know its part of testing to get perfection.  
Ill try the update now. 

[CPVC]

22 hours ago, SixThreeEight said:

i just installed this again, and i immediately got this error..........basic_ios::clear: iostream error. i click ok and it ctd. 

 

15 hours ago, cableguy7uk said:

GOT THAT TOO  HAD TO REMOVE dll from bin to work. without  RTBP

 

Could you guys post your entire log here? I need to see that so I can determine the context in which this error occurred.

[Maverick83]

19 hours ago, Sharp_one said:

Game has loaded, breasts are jiggling. No issues so far, but will report if/when I find any.

*Edit*
Here's what usually happens each update. Some things get fixed, others get broken. With RTBP v0.4-p5 2023-06-09, there's more fixed than broken, which is a good thing, but it's still alternating between what was fixed vs broken in the previous versions, and often it's the same items that alternate. Previously I was using RTBP v0.4-p4 2022-08-10, as this was the most stable for me, until p5, which also seems stable, at least so far.

In the image I've attached, you will see that some things that were broken are now fixed, and some things that were fixed previously, and now broken, whereas others have stopped animating, and some stayed the same. This is by no means all of them, just an example of what's happening with various clothing, using examples that are easy to see (This happens with both EA and CC, NSFW and SFW clothing types).

 

*Edit2*
The game closed without producing an error, as soon as I closed RTBP Commander.
 

i believe i see there some Little Doxy undressable clothes that are broken with this mod. Even tho undressing sims in gameplay are great, they arent like regular clothing. With undressable you have 2 or more meshes of the same type of clothes, and in WW code you change it in gameplay (was a new feature on a recent whicked whims update) but i think thats not all, as those clothes dont replace the top body mesh but you wear it on top of it, so when changing clothes stage to semi open, you actually see the breast or butt your sim has at the same time you still wearing the clothes. 

[Sharp_one]

1 hour ago, Maverick83 said:

i believe i see there some Little Doxy undressable clothes that are broken with this mod. Even tho undressing sims in gameplay are great, they arent like regular clothing. With undressable you have 2 or more meshes of the same type of clothes, and in WW code you change it in gameplay (was a new feature on a recent whicked whims update) but i think thats not all, as those clothes dont replace the top body mesh but you wear it on top of it, so when changing clothes stage to semi open, you actually see the breast or butt your sim has at the same time you still wearing the clothes. 

These are merely examples, that showed certain behaviours, they behave in the same way as many clothes, from both EA and CC, and the EA ones aren't revealing in nature. 'Undressables' are simply multiple separate clothing items that are being switched between via script. The point here is that every time one type of body or clothing mesh is fixed in RTBP, it breaks another, and then it just cycles like that with each new version. These examples above will alternate between being fixed or broken, just like the other items from CC and EA. The items that are showing as fixed, were broken with the previous version I used, and the items marked as broken were fixed in the previous version I used, except for the lop-sided jacket, and this has been alternating since the first version I installed (v0.4-p3 2022-02-18).

For this reason, I had asked a while back, if it would be possible to make a tool to patch the clothing and body mods, rather than keep trying to patch the mod. However, this doesn't address the EA items that are broken.

There was one example I did forget, as it's less common, and happens to CC and EA, where the shoulders drop and bounce instead of the breasts, and happens with men's clothing too.

[Guest]

So when it said that the update fixes a lot of custom CC.

 

Does that mean just turning the physics off? Because a lot of the ones that worked fine in prior updates seem to no longer have any physics attatched (speaking about clothes)

[Maverick83]

Tested the new update, breast physics works great and butt physics works good when using the running machine, or when dancing or perfoming actions; but it doesnt work when walking and running animations are played. It works again as soon as the sim stops and plays idle.
Checked the Log file and found this: 

[RTBP.DBUG 12:23.622] Finding pelvis vertex. Looking for "Default Adult Female". Casting ray: {0,0.272675,-1.02374} in direction {0,0,1}
[RTBP.DBUG 12:23.627] Finding pelvis vertex. Looking for "Default Adult Male". Casting ray: {0,0.245453,-1.0231} in direction {0,0,1}
[RTBP.INFO 12:23.634] Failed to create butt simulator: ButtSimulator: Unable to determine pelvis vertex

I think this could be the problem. Attaching the Log txt file.

Also have to add that when i sent the sim to jog, sometimes butt physics worked for a tiny second when the terrain was irregular like in the picture.

 

This message is after i posted: As soon as the sim ran again on irregular terrain and butt physics work a second, i stoped the game and opened the log txt file. This is the result:
[RTBP.DBUG 44:56.470] Finding pelvis vertex. Looking for "Default Adult Female". Casting ray: {0,0.272675,-1.02374} in direction {0,0,1}
[RTBP.DBUG 44:56.470] Finding pelvis vertex. Looking for "Default Adult Male". Casting ray: {0,0.245453,-1.0231} in direction {0,0,1}
[RTBP.DBUG 44:56.470] ButtSimulator: pelvis vertex: SimVertex1:
    position: {0,0.272675,-0.0237427}
    normal: {0.501961,0.67451,0.0352941}
    textureCoords: {0.370407,0.688034}
    blendIndexes: 2,0,0,0
    blendWeights: {0.905882,0.0941176,0,0}
[RTBP.DBUG 44:56.470] ButtSimulator: sim type determined to be "Adult Female"
[RTBP.INFO 44:56.472] Bone split successfully. Matching vertices modified: 32, vertices left unmodified: 0
[RTBP.INFO 44:56.472] Bone split successfully. Matching vertices modified: 32, vertices left unmodified: 0
[RTBP.INFO 44:56.472] Successfully created butt simulator
[RTBP.INFO 44:56.473] New sim buffer detected. Vertex count: 1869 associating with outfit 30
[RTBP.DBUG 44:56.473] RTBP thinks this mesh is Body
[RTBP.DBUG 44:56.473] BreastsSimulator: Casting ray from {0.022858,0.347534,1.03442} in direction {0,0,-1}
[RTBP.DBUG 44:56.474] BreastsSimulator: Result #0:
SimVertex1:
    position: {0.0227356,0.347504,0.0341187}
    normal: {0.72549,0.537255,0.945098}
    textureCoords: {0.184708,0.58931}
    blendIndexes: 20,18,1,1
    blendWeights: {0.576471,0.423529,0,0}
    Inerp. Position: {0.022858,0.347534,0.0340044}
[RTBP.DBUG 44:56.474] BreastsSimulator: Casting ray from {-0.022858,0.347534,1.03442} in direction {0,0,-1}
[RTBP.DBUG 44:56.475] BreastsSimulator: Result #1:
SimVertex1:
    position: {-0.0227356,0.347504,0.0341187}
    normal: {0.27451,0.533333,0.941176}
    textureCoords: {0.0839233,0.58931}
    blendIndexes: 22,18,1,1
    blendWeights: {0.576471,0.423529,0,0}
    Inerp. Position: {-0.022858,0.347534,0.0340044}
[RTBP.DBUG 44:56.475] BreastsSimulator: Bone indexes: 20 22
[RTBP.INFO 44:56.475] Successfully created breasts simulator
[RTBP.DBUG 44:56.476] Finding pelvis vertex. Looking for "Default Adult Female". Casting ray: {0,0.272675,-1.02374} in direction {0,0,1}
[RTBP.DBUG 44:56.476] Finding pelvis vertex. Looking for "Default Adult Male". Casting ray: {0,0.245453,-1.0231} in direction {0,0,1}
[RTBP.INFO 44:56.477] Failed to create butt simulator: ButtSimulator: Unable to determine pelvis vertex

Hope this info work to solve this issue.

Log.txt

Edited June 11, 2023 by Maverick83

[alexlll]

I noticed a big problem. RTBP not working during sex! Old versions worked. 

I checked as follows during sex, I paused the animation and pressed the test X Y and Z.  physics of the butt worked, the physics of the chest did not work.

[cableguy7uk]

Unable to connect to RTBP's simulation server: [WinError 10061] No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it
Attempt 1/10. Retrying in 10 seconds.
Unable to connect to RTBP's simulation server: [WinError 10061] No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it
Attempt 2/10. Retrying in 10 seconds.
Unable to connect to RTBP's simulation server: [WinError 10061] No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it
Attempt 3/10. Retrying in 10 seconds.
Unable to connect to RTBP's simulation server: [WinError 10061] No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it
Attempt 4/10. Retrying in 10 seconds.
Unable to connect to RTBP's simulation server: [WinError 10061] No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it
Attempt 5/10. Retrying in 10 seconds.
Unable to connect to RTBP's simulation server: [WinError 10061] No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it
Attempt 6/10. Retrying in 10 seconds.
Unable to connect to RTBP's simulation server: [WinError 10061] No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it
Attempt 7/10. Retrying in 10 seconds.
Unable to connect to RTBP's simulation server: [WinError 10061] No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it
Attempt 8/10. Retrying in 10 seconds.
Unable to connect to RTBP's simulation server: [WinError 10061] No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it
Attempt 9/10. Retrying in 10 seconds.
Unable to connect to RTBP's simulation server: [WinError 10061] No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it
Attempt 10/10. Retrying in 10 seconds.
 

 

 

THIS WAS FOUND IN  RTBP log in Document only  no log files found in C Bin RTBP FOLDER JUST SETTINGS

[Maverick83]

11 hours ago, cableguy7uk said:

Unable to connect to RTBP's simulation server: [WinError 10061] No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it
Attempt 1/10. Retrying in 10 seconds.
Unable to connect to RTBP's simulation server: [WinError 10061] No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it
Attempt 2/10. Retrying in 10 seconds.
Unable to connect to RTBP's simulation server: [WinError 10061] No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it
Attempt 3/10. Retrying in 10 seconds.
Unable to connect to RTBP's simulation server: [WinError 10061] No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it
Attempt 4/10. Retrying in 10 seconds.
Unable to connect to RTBP's simulation server: [WinError 10061] No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it
Attempt 5/10. Retrying in 10 seconds.
Unable to connect to RTBP's simulation server: [WinError 10061] No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it
Attempt 6/10. Retrying in 10 seconds.
Unable to connect to RTBP's simulation server: [WinError 10061] No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it
Attempt 7/10. Retrying in 10 seconds.
Unable to connect to RTBP's simulation server: [WinError 10061] No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it
Attempt 8/10. Retrying in 10 seconds.
Unable to connect to RTBP's simulation server: [WinError 10061] No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it
Attempt 9/10. Retrying in 10 seconds.
Unable to connect to RTBP's simulation server: [WinError 10061] No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it
Attempt 10/10. Retrying in 10 seconds.
 

 

 

THIS WAS FOUND IN  RTBP log in Document only  no log files found in C Bin RTBP FOLDER JUST SETTINGS

Doesnt seem to be an issue from the mod but from your computer. You tried disabling your firewall? 

[Rakeson]

On 6/10/2023 at 4:50 PM, jekyll98 said:

how did you get the gui to open in game?

how you make this(video) work, mine only works while i'm change their clothes

[Rakeson]

On 6/9/2023 at 11:02 AM, CPVC said:

I just released the latest snapshot of RTBP. This is version 0.4-p5. This is another preview release. If you don't like what you see, switch back to an older version and tell me about your problems with the latest version.

 

I've been doing a lot of experimenting and have switched to a vertex detection method based on rays cast on triangles, which I hope will work better than my previous approach, especially with custom content that may not conform to that of your default sim meshes.

 

The breasts are now simulated relative to another bone. I think it looks pretty good, but tell me if you think I'm wrong.

Log.txtthis is my log file. 

My mod only works while change clothes, other time don't. Is it some cc mesh or slider conflict with this mod? 

[Guest]

Hmm, sadly this update causes the game to just crash to the desktop (no errors or nothing, just closes the game down) whenever I try to pick a pose using the Wicked Whims pose selector.

 

Confirmed it's this update specifically as it doesn't do it when it's uninstalled or on older versions.

[Maverick83]

2 hours ago, wewfap04 said:

Hmm, sadly this update causes the game to just crash to the desktop (no errors or nothing, just closes the game down) whenever I try to pick a pose using the Wicked Whims pose selector.

 

Confirmed it's this update specifically as it doesn't do it when it's uninstalled or on older versions.

Just tried it and i can use the pose selector from WW with no problem. 

[CPVC]

Well, darn. Sorry everyone is having trouble with the new release. I'll see what I can do about it. In the mean time, revert to the last release that worked for you. Also, thanks for your feedback and log information.

[Sharp_one]

4 hours ago, CPVC said:

Well, darn. Sorry everyone is having trouble with the new release. I'll see what I can do about it. In the mean time, revert to the last release that worked for you. Also, thanks for your feedback and log information.

I appreciate all your time and effort into this mod. It gives an element of realism to the otherwise static character models.

[alexlll]

5 hours ago, CPVC said:

Well, darn. Sorry everyone is having trouble with the new release. I'll see what I can do about it. In the mean time, revert to the last release that worked for you. Also, thanks for your feedback and log information.

I have been using rtb since its release, tried all versions. In the latest version I liked the angular  setting, but didn't like that physics stopped working in sexual animations.

This version d3d9.dllSettings.iniworks best for me, if you add angular settings to it and make it work to disable the physics of male asses, it would be ideal.

P.S. Angular settings allow you to create chest movements when your Sim is stationary.

Edited June 12, 2023 by alexlll

[WaterSpirit]

As soon as I move the Angular Damping/Spring K sliders, I get a no error ctd. I am using the newest commander and I don't have a previous one anymore.

[GingerJay]

On 2/8/2023 at 4:45 PM, GingerJay said:

I have been using this mod since the original release and have not had any major issues with it before but since the last stable update (I also tried the experimental one you shared) the physics are not working at all and the vertices just get stretched out into oblivion after playing for a few minutes. I've tried everything but can't get this mod to work anymore.

Sorry for never getting back with more information but I have just now tried the newest release. I did a completely clean fresh install of the game on new drive with this mod. It still unfortunately does the same stretching thing. I was able to figure out that it only happens with certain clothing items (or perhaps outfits, not sure atm), but most of them are vanilla and not cc so I have no idea why it's happening to them whilst most cc clothes and other vanilla clothes and the nude body seem to work without issues. Here is the log file. Hopefully this will reveal something about the cause since I really would like to be able to use this mod again...

Log.txt

[alexlll]

7 hours ago, GingerJay said:

Spoiler

Извините, что никогда не возвращался с дополнительной информацией, но я только что попробовал новейшую версию. Я сделал полностью чистую новую установку игры на новый диск с этим модом. К сожалению, он все еще делает то же самое с растяжением. Я смог выяснить, что это происходит только с определенными предметами одежды (или, возможно, с нарядами, не уверен), но большинство из них являются ванильными, а не cc, поэтому я понятия не имею, почему это происходит с ними, в то время как большинство одежды cc и другие ванильные одежда и обнаженное тело, кажется, работают без проблем. Вот файл журнала. Надеюсь, это раскроет что-то о причине, так как я действительно хотел бы снова использовать этот мод...

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Typically, such things happen if any of the rtbp settings is greatly overestimated by any parameter. Try not to use clothes that cause such distortion. Also, it may not be in clothes, but in a non-standard lower body or the use of a slider.

Edited June 18, 2023 by alexlll

[GingerJay]

7 hours ago, alexlll said:

Typically, such things happen if any of the rtbp settings is greatly overestimated by any parameter. Try not to use clothes that cause such distortion. Also, it may not be in clothes, but in a non-standard lower body or the use of a slider.

I kinda would like to keep using all of my clothes and considering this mod used to work before with all clothes, some just didn't get the physics I would greatly prefer that outcome. That last point is probably the cause. I don't use any non-standard body parts / body meshes but I do have a bunch of custom sliders installed and it might be the issue here. I might try and remove all of them to see if it fixes the issue. Just now confirmed that also the older version that used to work does the same thing. I have no idea what happened sometime earlier this year that broke some of my clothes with this mod. Maybe an update broke some custom slider that I have no idea about...