wip Real-Time Body Physics (DirectX 11)

[Guest]

1 hour ago, CPVC said:

 

It looks like you're using an earlier version of the experimental RTBP DLL. Try the new one and see if that works for you.
 

RTBP v0.4-p4-e3 2023-03-25.zip 3.61 MB · 34 downloads

That is the one I was using.

 

3,701KB in size. The one you uploaded on this page with the experimental code included or something.

[EMuse]

Just in case I have it wrong, where should the commander file be placed?

[CPVC]

26 minutes ago, wewfap04 said:

That is the one I was using.

 

3,701KB in size. The one you uploaded on this page with the experimental code included or something.

 

The error message you shared with me shows that the member function "Mesh::getClosestVertexToRay" is being called. I don't use that function anymore. If you could post your log file, I could tell you whether you're running the latest version or not.

[CPVC]

14 minutes ago, EMuse said:

Just in case I have it wrong, where should the commander file be placed?

 

The Commander can be placed anywhere. Just make sure to extract all the files, make sure they're all in the same folder, then run the ".exe" file.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, CPVC said:

 

The error message you shared with me shows that the member function "Mesh::getClosestVertexToRay" is being called. I don't use that function anymore. If you could post your log file, I could tell you whether you're running the latest version or not.

I reinstalled it so will regenerate another logfile

 

Just for clarity here's what i'm doing.

 

1. Getting the RTBP file from the download page (dated 2022/08/10)

2. Using installer to install this (I uncheck the box as I don't use an integrated GPU)

3. I then use that file you just linked with the newest .dll file (replacing the dll file in the main game folder, NOT the mod folder)

Boom, I also use commander to edit shit. By the way, what body selector do you use? There's no way you use the default Wicked Wims one because that gives the ass boxing effect that most report?

Edited March 27, 2023 by wewfap04

[EMuse]

All good! New installer worked perfectly to un and reinstall for the ea app and, honestly, this mod's been running way more smooth in general since the latest game updates. :,) For me at least. When the game auto updated and I warily turned it on to see which mods would crash and burn, physics were on point for the lone sim dancing in her room to the blues.

 

Deleted and re-downloaded the commander files yesterday and it's behaving with the latest version.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, EMuse said:

All good! New installer worked perfectly to un and reinstall for the ea app and, honestly, this mod's been running way more smooth in general since the latest game updates. :,) For me at least. When the game auto updated and I warily turned it on to see which mods would crash and burn, physics were on point for the lone sim dancing in her room to the blues.

 

Deleted and re-downloaded the commander files yesterday and it's behaving with the latest version.

What body mods do you use (Whicked Whims I mean)?

 

Do you get the weird tailbone visual discussed in this thread? 

 

 

Apparently it's to do with the type of "bottom" you use in WW bodyselector but I can't find one that doesn't have it sadly. Tried them all, EVE, Dumbaby, Hikori etc

[SixThreeEight]

On 3/26/2023 at 9:28 AM, wewfap04 said:

How did you get on with it.

 

Do you get the tailbone bug as well?

i didnt get the tailbone bug, but, the breast physics arent working properly, in CAS, they are slanted sideways, and when my sim moves, the breast are like a static object they dont move while everything else does, im sure weve all seen that in other games too, but i also did crash alt tabbing, and im upset because i forgot to save lol 

[EMuse]

2 hours ago, wewfap04 said:

What body mods do you use (Whicked Whims I mean)?

 

Do you get the weird tailbone visual discussed in this thread? 

 

 

Apparently it's to do with the type of "bottom" you use in WW bodyselector but I can't find one that doesn't have it sadly. Tried them all, EVE, Dumbaby, Hikori etc

I haven't had that particular issue. I think my current default body for fem sims is the Eve v9? Sometimes switch the top for Heavy. Any mesh oddness I get is usually more to do with a mesh not playing nice with animations themselves. If it's just that animation or ones with similar poses, maybe it's an awkward angle for the jiggle's gravity to work with?

[Guest]

2 hours ago, EMuse said:

I haven't had that particular issue. I think my current default body for fem sims is the Eve v9? Sometimes switch the top for Heavy. Any mesh oddness I get is usually more to do with a mesh not playing nice with animations themselves. If it's just that animation or ones with similar poses, maybe it's an awkward angle for the jiggle's gravity to work with?

That's what i've come to accept too.

 

I just think it has to do with how the animations play with the physics, don't think it's avoidable sadly.

 

Thankfully, i've managed to get settings (also using Eve V9 bottom in WW) that minimalise it and i've tested it with a bunch of animations and it works fine. Unavoidable sadly but can be minimised to a tolerant point where the booty jiggle outweighs the odd awkward visual.

 

3 hours ago, SixThreeEight said:

i didnt get the tailbone bug, but, the breast physics arent working properly, in CAS, they are slanted sideways, and when my sim moves, the breast are like a static object they dont move while everything else does, im sure weve all seen that in other games too, but i also did crash alt tabbing, and im upset because i forgot to save lol 

Are you sure you don't?

 

What lower body mesh do you use? It's seemingly impossible to avoid on a lot of animations (for example, Motherlode Twerk series has it pretty bad especially on the 2nd/3rd animations). Also, the CAS titty slanted sideways is unavoidable I think. In game it works fine, but in CAS it's like Gravity has them stuck in place too the side. Not really an issue.

 

Speaking of which, is there a way to save Commander settings by that I mean, not having to open up the commander every time I load up the game? @CPVC

 

Or does it do that anyway?

Edited March 28, 2023 by wewfap04

[EMuse]

1 hour ago, wewfap04 said:

Speaking of which, is there a way to save Commander settings by that I mean, not having to open up the commander every time I load up the game? @CPVC

 

Or does it do that anyway?

In the "commands" tab click "save settings" under Misc. after making the changes you want.

[Guest]

Just to confirm, does Wicked Whims default lower body work with this mod right now?

 

Because i'm pretty sure it's fucked hence why I use EVE V9

[cableguy7uk]

Tried installer again this is the log.

Using RTBP Install Library, built on Mar 24 2023

Specified RTBP ZIP file doesn't appear to be a valid RTBP release.

Checking system for requisite libraries...

System DLL found. Using "C:\WINDOWS\system32\dbghelp.dll" for library "dbghelp.dll"

Testing loading library "C:\WINDOWS\system32\dbghelp.dll"...

Loading succeeded.

System DLL found. Using "C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll" for library "kernel32.dll"

Testing loading library "C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll"...

Loading succeeded.

System DLL found. Using "C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll" for library "msvcrt.dll"

Testing loading library "C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll"...

Loading succeeded.

System DLL found. Using "C:\WINDOWS\system32\shell32.dll" for library "shell32.dll"

Testing loading library "C:\WINDOWS\system32\shell32.dll"...

Loading succeeded.

System DLL found. Using "C:\WINDOWS\system32\user32.dll" for library "user32.dll"

Testing loading library "C:\WINDOWS\system32\user32.dll"...

Loading succeeded.

System DLL found. Using "C:\WINDOWS\system32\ws2_32.dll" for library "ws2_32.dll"

Testing loading library "C:\WINDOWS\system32\ws2_32.dll"...

Loading succeeded.

Looks like all the libraries we need are there. Proceeding...

Extracting RTBP ZIP to a temporary directory...

Entry "d3d9.dll" written to "C:\Users\DAVENE~1\AppData\Local\Temp\RTBP v0.4-p4-e3 2023-03-25.zip\d3d9.dll"

Files extracted successfully.

Backing up Settings.ini file if it exists...

Backing up file "C:\Program Files\EA Games\The Sims 4\Game\Bin\RTBP\Settings.ini" to "C:\Program Files\EA Games\The Sims 4\Game\Bin\RTBP\Settings.ini.old"...

Backup failed. Source file doesn't exist.

Installing DLL and related files...

Moving "C:\Users\DAVENE~1\AppData\Local\Temp\RTBP v0.4-p4-e3 2023-03-25.zip\d3d9.dll" to "C:\Program Files\EA Games\The Sims 4\Game\Bin\d3d9.dll"

Installer failed!: filesystem error: cannot rename: Permission denied [C:\Users\DAVENE~1\AppData\Local\Temp\RTBP v0.4-p4-e3 2023-03-25.zip\d3d9.dll] [C:\Program Files\EA Games\The Sims 4\Game\Bin\d3d9.dll]

Further Information: RTBP ZIP File Valid? no. Install Dir Valid? yes. Mods Dir Valid? yes.

[Sharp_one]

0.4 e3 - Had a crash when I was AFK and the Windows lock screen turns on. Crashes are a lot rarer with e3 than it was with the previous two experimental versions, but it seems to be repeatable with the lock screen crash. 0.4 stable is fine with the lock screen or alt-tabbing, unlike e3.

Also, E3 has a lot better compatibility with breasts clipping through clothing, similar to the far earlier 0.4 versions, but there are still some random clipping, or breasts that are lop-sided. If it helps, I can attach and archive of some of the affected clothing items.

 

[RTBP.ERRO 252:16.521] Unhandled Windows Structured Exception:
    _EXCEPTION_RECORD(Access Violation)
Backtrace:
    0: 7ffc27b3f1e6 Z15writeStacktraceRSo
    1: 7ffc27b3e816 Z20onUnhandledExceptionP19_EXCEPTION_POINTERS
    2: 7ffd0cb27fe0 UnhandledExceptionFilter
    3: 7ffd0eff4140 memset
    4: 7ffd0efdc7e0 _C_specific_handler
    5: 7ffd0eff22c0 _chkstk
    6: 7ffd0efa1070 RtlRaiseException
    7: 7ffd0eff0ee0 KiUserExceptionDispatcher
    8: 7ffc27b243b0 ZNK10SimVertex111getPositionEj
    9: 7ffc27b243d8 ZNK10SimVertex117getPositionVectorEv
    10: 7ffc27b262b2 ZNK4Mesh21getClosestVertexToRayERK3RayfjPf
    11: 7ffc27b282fa ZStlsRSoN4Mesh4PartE
    12: 7ffc27b26476 ZN4Mesh23getClosestTriangleToRayERK3RayjPfPP10SimVertex1S3_
    13: 7ffc27b2f318 ZN16BreastsSimulator6createER15HookedD3DDeviceR4Mesh
    14: 7ffc27b346ce ZN9SimBuffer6createER15HookedD3DDeviceP22IDirect3DVertexBuffer9P21IDirect3DIndexBuffer9j
    15: 7ffc27b1409c ZN15HookedD3DDevice22onNewSimBufferDetectedEP22IDirect3DVertexBuffer9P21IDirect3DIndexBuffer9j
    16: 7ffc27b1345a ZN15HookedD3DDevice20DrawIndexedPrimitiveE17_D3DPRIMITIVETYPEijjjj
    17: 14145c6c0 GetDenuvoTimeTicketRequest
    18: 14145c6c0 GetDenuvoTimeTicketRequest
    33: 7ffd0d2475f0 BaseThreadInitThunk
    34: 7ffd0efa2680 RtlUserThreadStart

 

[CPVC]

16 hours ago, cableguy7uk said:

Tried installer again this is the log.

Using RTBP Install Library, built on Mar 24 2023

Specified RTBP ZIP file doesn't appear to be a valid RTBP release.

Checking system for requisite libraries...

System DLL found. Using "C:\WINDOWS\system32\dbghelp.dll" for library "dbghelp.dll"

Testing loading library "C:\WINDOWS\system32\dbghelp.dll"...

Loading succeeded.

System DLL found. Using "C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll" for library "kernel32.dll"

Testing loading library "C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll"...

Loading succeeded.

System DLL found. Using "C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll" for library "msvcrt.dll"

Testing loading library "C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll"...

Loading succeeded.

System DLL found. Using "C:\WINDOWS\system32\shell32.dll" for library "shell32.dll"

Testing loading library "C:\WINDOWS\system32\shell32.dll"...

Loading succeeded.

System DLL found. Using "C:\WINDOWS\system32\user32.dll" for library "user32.dll"

Testing loading library "C:\WINDOWS\system32\user32.dll"...

Loading succeeded.

System DLL found. Using "C:\WINDOWS\system32\ws2_32.dll" for library "ws2_32.dll"

Testing loading library "C:\WINDOWS\system32\ws2_32.dll"...

Loading succeeded.

Looks like all the libraries we need are there. Proceeding...

Extracting RTBP ZIP to a temporary directory...

Entry "d3d9.dll" written to "C:\Users\DAVENE~1\AppData\Local\Temp\RTBP v0.4-p4-e3 2023-03-25.zip\d3d9.dll"

Files extracted successfully.

Backing up Settings.ini file if it exists...

Backing up file "C:\Program Files\EA Games\The Sims 4\Game\Bin\RTBP\Settings.ini" to "C:\Program Files\EA Games\The Sims 4\Game\Bin\RTBP\Settings.ini.old"...

Backup failed. Source file doesn't exist.

Installing DLL and related files...

Moving "C:\Users\DAVENE~1\AppData\Local\Temp\RTBP v0.4-p4-e3 2023-03-25.zip\d3d9.dll" to "C:\Program Files\EA Games\The Sims 4\Game\Bin\d3d9.dll"

Installer failed!: filesystem error: cannot rename: Permission denied [C:\Users\DAVENE~1\AppData\Local\Temp\RTBP v0.4-p4-e3 2023-03-25.zip\d3d9.dll] [C:\Program Files\EA Games\The Sims 4\Game\Bin\d3d9.dll]

Further Information: RTBP ZIP File Valid? no. Install Dir Valid? yes. Mods Dir Valid? yes.

 

Sorry, I should have mentioned, the installer only supports stable releases. The experimental releases are for advanced users only. They're meant for testing out new features so I can get feedback and try to fix any problems that may occur. To use an experimental release, you need to be able to install it manually. Use the installer to install the stable release, then manually install the experimental DLL. There's no guarantee that it will work, hence the term "experimental". Once it's been tested enough and I'm satisfied with it's behavior, it'll be the new stable release and packaged with all the requisite files and will work with the installer.

 

15 hours ago, Sharp_one said:

0.4 e3 - Had a crash when I was AFK and the Windows lock screen turns on. Crashes are a lot rarer with e3 than it was with the previous two experimental versions, but it seems to be repeatable with the lock screen crash. 0.4 stable is fine with the lock screen or alt-tabbing, unlike e3.

Also, E3 has a lot better compatibility with breasts clipping through clothing, similar to the far earlier 0.4 versions, but there are still some random clipping, or breasts that are lop-sided. If it helps, I can attach and archive of some of the affected clothing items.

 

[RTBP.ERRO 252:16.521] Unhandled Windows Structured Exception:
    _EXCEPTION_RECORD(Access Violation)
Backtrace:
    0: 7ffc27b3f1e6 Z15writeStacktraceRSo
    1: 7ffc27b3e816 Z20onUnhandledExceptionP19_EXCEPTION_POINTERS
    2: 7ffd0cb27fe0 UnhandledExceptionFilter
    3: 7ffd0eff4140 memset
    4: 7ffd0efdc7e0 _C_specific_handler
    5: 7ffd0eff22c0 _chkstk
    6: 7ffd0efa1070 RtlRaiseException
    7: 7ffd0eff0ee0 KiUserExceptionDispatcher
    8: 7ffc27b243b0 ZNK10SimVertex111getPositionEj
    9: 7ffc27b243d8 ZNK10SimVertex117getPositionVectorEv
    10: 7ffc27b262b2 ZNK4Mesh21getClosestVertexToRayERK3RayfjPf
    11: 7ffc27b282fa ZStlsRSoN4Mesh4PartE
    12: 7ffc27b26476 ZN4Mesh23getClosestTriangleToRayERK3RayjPfPP10SimVertex1S3_
    13: 7ffc27b2f318 ZN16BreastsSimulator6createER15HookedD3DDeviceR4Mesh
    14: 7ffc27b346ce ZN9SimBuffer6createER15HookedD3DDeviceP22IDirect3DVertexBuffer9P21IDirect3DIndexBuffer9j
    15: 7ffc27b1409c ZN15HookedD3DDevice22onNewSimBufferDetectedEP22IDirect3DVertexBuffer9P21IDirect3DIndexBuffer9j
    16: 7ffc27b1345a ZN15HookedD3DDevice20DrawIndexedPrimitiveE17_D3DPRIMITIVETYPEijjjj
    17: 14145c6c0 GetDenuvoTimeTicketRequest
    18: 14145c6c0 GetDenuvoTimeTicketRequest
    33: 7ffd0d2475f0 BaseThreadInitThunk
    34: 7ffd0efa2680 RtlUserThreadStart

 

 

Thanks. I'll work on this. When in doubt, switch back to the stable release for stable game play.

[cableguy7uk]

Next question is where or is there one of your mods that'll work after the EA takeover?

[CPVC]

19 hours ago, cableguy7uk said:

Next question is where or is there one of your mods that'll work after the EA takeover?

 

EA takeover? I'm not sure what you're referring to. Maxis was acquired by EA in 1997. Do you mean the new launcher replacing Origin? The default installation directory for games should be "C:\Program Files\EA Games\The Sims 4\".

[cableguy7uk]

4 hours ago, CPVC said:

 

EA takeover? I'm not sure what you're referring to. Maxis was acquired by EA in 1997. Do you mean the new launcher replacing Origin? The default installation directory for games should be "C:\Program Files\EA Games\The Sims 4\".

Basically EA app took over Origin at last update which totally wiped C drive settings including RTBP.   The new app even tries to download EVERY add on/package from Sims 4 that I bought in the past.  On two attempted reinstalls this happened and totally filled Drive C.  I have now managed to install a few Sims packages that didn't fill C.

 Game now works but noticed the dll. in not showing in BIN.  When I've tried RTBP install, game doesn't work as the extra dll. on C  won't allow your mod.

[SixThreeEight]

just had a crash, it happened when i switched my sims i had one at the hospital giving birth, and i was trying to switch, to my other sim on my lot and it crashed.

[CPVC]

2 hours ago, SixThreeEight said:

just had a crash, it happened when i switched my sims i had one at the hospital giving birth, and i was trying to switch, to my other sim on my lot and it crashed.

 

3221225727 = 0xC00000FF = STATUS_BAD_FUNCTION_TABLE

 

Huh, that's a new one. I've personally never encountered this error and I'm not sure anyone has reported an error matching this code either. I'll look into it. Thanks for sharing this and I'm sorry RTBP has been such a pain for you.

 

I found an article on this error code:

 

"First Cause: Affected by Viruses"

 

This might be the most likely cause. Like I've said before, RTBP is a hack, not really a mod. It works through nefarious means and it doesn't try to hide it. Your antivirus software would be right to be skeptical of it. If there's a way to add an exception to RTBP's "d3d9.dll" file, that may fix it.

 

Edit: I have an idea... I might need to relocate the RTBP directory. RTBP probably doesn't have permission to write to the Sims 4 install directory. That's where the settings and logs are saved to. I'll look into it.

Edited April 2, 2023 by CPVC
Inspiration

[SixThreeEight]

1 hour ago, CPVC said:

 

3221225727 = 0xC00000FF = STATUS_BAD_FUNCTION_TABLE

 

Huh, that's a new one. I've personally never encountered this error and I'm not sure anyone has reported an error matching this code either. I'll look into it. Thanks for sharing this and I'm sorry RTBP has been such a pain for you.

 

I found an article on this error code:

 

"First Cause: Affected by Viruses"

 

This might be the most likely cause. Like I've said before, RTBP is a hack, not really a mod. It works through nefarious means and it doesn't try to hide it. Your antivirus software would be right to be skeptical of it. If there's a way to add an exception to RTBP's "d3d9.dll" file, that may fix it.

 

Edit: I have an idea... I might need to relocate the RTBP directory. RTBP probably doesn't have permission to write to the Sims 4 install directory. That's where the settings and logs are saved to. I'll look into it.

sounds like a plan! im looking forward to your response!

[cableguy7uk]

Edit: I have an idea... I might need to relocate the RTBP directory. RTBP probably doesn't have permission to write to the Sims 4 install directory. That's where the settings and logs are saved to. I'll look into it.

Edited 1 hour ago by CPVC
Inspiration

 That's my problem in it wont load 

[Sharp_one]

On 3/31/2023 at 12:56 PM, CPVC said:

Thanks. I'll work on this. When in doubt, switch back to the stable release for stable game play.

I don't mind helping to troubleshoot, if I'm actually helping. These crashes are predicable, so I simply save before I go AFK.

What I find interesting, is the latest experimental seems to be a reversion to an earlier method. When you fix one model/skin or such, it breaks something else, then you either revert, or change, it changes back and forth. So in other words, this latest one breaks clothing that was previously fixed, and fixes clothing that was previously broken. Mostly certain items, like nipple piercings, open shirts with nothing under, or tops with transparency, such as mesh shirts, all don't move with the breasts, and others cause lopsided breasts. However, it's not consistent, as some work, some don't, even from the same creator. I imagine this is something to do with the clothing item, more than it is this mod, and if you find the cause, maybe it would be possible to create a tool that patches the clothing item to work with breast physics, rather than trying to balance breast physics to work with everything.

[CPVC]

On 4/2/2023 at 2:18 AM, Sharp_one said:

I don't mind helping to troubleshoot, if I'm actually helping. These crashes are predicable, so I simply save before I go AFK.

What I find interesting, is the latest experimental seems to be a reversion to an earlier method. When you fix one model/skin or such, it breaks something else, then you either revert, or change, it changes back and forth. So in other words, this latest one breaks clothing that was previously fixed, and fixes clothing that was previously broken. Mostly certain items, like nipple piercings, open shirts with nothing under, or tops with transparency, such as mesh shirts, all don't move with the breasts, and others cause lopsided breasts. However, it's not consistent, as some work, some don't, even from the same creator. I imagine this is something to do with the clothing item, more than it is this mod, and if you find the cause, maybe it would be possible to create a tool that patches the clothing item to work with breast physics, rather than trying to balance breast physics to work with everything.

 

There's no consistency across the mesh data that RTBP can intercept. Bone indexes change with each mesh and each rig they're bound to. At this point, I need to analyse the geometry of the mesh data to determine the breast bone indexes, or if breast bones even exist. Male sims don't have breast bones.

 

Sorry, it's complicated. It took me months of research, analyzing the Sims 4 engine before I finally found out how to control the bones. I assumed at first that all sims have the same bones and that they would have the same indexes, but that doesn't appear to be the case.

[Lvrslb2]

Hi, first post here and i really like this mod.

Surely stating the obvious but it looks to me that when a top has lod0 with more than one geometry only one of them is modified by the mod

Is there a workaround?