wip Real-Time Body Physics (DirectX 11)

[CPVC]

On 10/8/2023 at 7:07 AM, Ts4Skyrim said:

Hello, could you provide the previous version of RTPB? It's causing shading issues in the game!

 

Here. This is an older screenshot that I made for another user, but you can go back in RTBP's history to download older versions. Click "See changelog" to get that menu.

 

 

Edited October 14, 2023 by CPVC

[sussy wussy]

Which is the latest properly functioning version?

[Qwert_yyy]

I'm going to tell you one moment that I do not know how to call. You are free to assume for yourself what it is and what it is connected with.

 

I haven't played Sims in a while. I had this mod installed. I just tried to download Reshade from the official website. I opened the Reshade installer and a huge logo of this mod appeared in the window, then all the buttons and sections turned to black as soon as I hovered with the mouse. Here is an example of a window with an obvious logo of this mod on the background.

 

Spoiler

 

To me... scared?

It's scary because these things are not connected in any way. And right now I don't have the sims running, and as I said earlier, I haven't touched it for a long time. What the fuck is this?

Edited October 16, 2023 by Soldream

[CPVC]

On 10/16/2023 at 12:33 PM, Soldream said:

I'm going to tell you one moment that I do not know how to call. You are free to assume for yourself what it is and what it is connected with.

 

I haven't played Sims in a while. I had this mod installed. I just tried to download Reshade from the official website. I opened the Reshade installer and a huge logo of this mod appeared in the window, then all the buttons and sections turned to black as soon as I hovered with the mouse. Here is an example of a window with an obvious logo of this mod on the background.

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

To me... scared?

It's scary because these things are not connected in any way. And right now I don't have the sims running, and as I said earlier, I haven't touched it for a long time. What the fuck is this?

 

Hmmmm... I'm assuming that the ReShade installer might load the game EXE into memory to detect the graphics API used. Then it might scan that memory to find something it can use as a thumbnail? Since the RTBP logo is embedded in the d3d9.dll as a PNG file, and the d3d9.dll is required by The Sims, maybe ReShade is detecting the PNG signature and using the RTBP logo as the thumbnail? I'll look into it. If I'm correct, there are a few things I could do to correct this.

[Qwert_yyy]

On 10/18/2023 at 9:11 AM, CPVC said:

 

Hmmmm... I'm assuming that the ReShade installer might load the game EXE into memory to detect the graphics API used. Then it might scan that memory to find something it can use as a thumbnail? Since the RTBP logo is embedded in the d3d9.dll as a PNG file, and the d3d9.dll is required by The Sims, maybe ReShade is detecting the PNG signature and using the RTBP logo as the thumbnail? I'll look into it. If I'm correct, there are a few things I could do to correct this.

 

Could you please explain, is your mod always loading something into memory now? Or when we first run the game with your mod, did we change something in our system?

[CPVC]

10 hours ago, Soldream said:

 

Could you please explain, is your mod always loading something into memory now? Or when we first run the game with your mod, did we change something in our system?

 

Yes. RTBP is a hack. It tricks the Sims 4 into executing code that the developers never intended. It doesn't make any changes to your overall system, it only does this for the Sims. RTBP hijacks Direct3D 9 and adds a little extra steps to the rendering loop. ReShade does the exact same thing.

[Qwert_yyy]

19 hours ago, CPVC said:

 

Yes. RTBP is a hack. It tricks the Sims 4 into executing code that the developers never intended. It doesn't make any changes to your overall system, it only does this for the Sims. RTBP hijacks Direct3D 9 and adds a little extra steps to the rendering loop. ReShade does the exact same thing.

 

"Yes" is that we right now have some remnants of your mod in memory, or do we only do that when we run the game? You're forcing me to be specific.

 

Oh, yeah. As you said earlier, reshade loads the thumbnail. But I said that the problem is not so much that we see your image, but what happens to the buttons and the whole window. The window turns into a collection of artifacts that violate all the buttons and pictures.

 

I may sound overly suspicious and uneducated, but it's like you're trying to downplay this minor mishap.

Edited October 20, 2023 by Soldream

[CPVC]

14 hours ago, Soldream said:

 

"Yes" is that we right now have some remnants of your mod in memory, or do we only do that when we run the game? You're forcing me to be specific.

 

Oh, yeah. As you said earlier, reshade loads the thumbnail. But I said that the problem is not so much that we see your image, but what happens to the buttons and the whole window. The window turns into a collection of artifacts that violate all the buttons and pictures.

 

I may sound overly suspicious and uneducated, but it's like you're trying to downplay this minor mishap.

 

It's only when the RTBP DLL is initialized that anything will happen. Try uninstalling RTBP, installing ReShade, then installing RTBP again if you want to.

 

Edit: RTBP is programmed to show the RTBP logo in the upper left portion of the screen for a couple seconds when the game starts just so people know that RTBP is installed correctly and working. After the logo is displayed, it will vanish and not be seen again until the next time RTBP is initialized.

 

This logo can be disabled by setting the "showLogoAtStartup" value in your "RTBP/Settings.ini" file to "false" or though the RTBP Commander.

Edited October 21, 2023 by CPVC

[Qwert_yyy]

On 10/21/2023 at 7:22 AM, CPVC said:

 

It's only when the RTBP DLL is initialized that anything will happen. Try uninstalling RTBP, installing ReShade, then installing RTBP again if you want to.

 

Edit: RTBP is programmed to show the RTBP logo in the upper left portion of the screen for a couple seconds when the game starts just so people know that RTBP is installed correctly and working. After the logo is displayed, it will vanish and not be seen again until the next time RTBP is initialized.

 

This logo can be disabled by setting the "showLogoAtStartup" value in your "RTBP/Settings.ini" file to "false" or though the RTBP Commander.

 

No, deleting your files did not eliminate this situation. I'm still getting it. 

I don't know how you programmed your sims mod so that it spreads to other programs and seems to be lodged deep in the internal system files.

Just to be clear, I don't care about the reshade, I care about the question itself, what the fuck?

Edited October 22, 2023 by Soldream

[jeno3]

• Hi,
   I got a new system with Windows 11.
   Now the game doesn't start as soon as I put the DLL in the bin folder. I've also tried older versions, always the same problem, it doesn't start.
   I've already tried it without any additional mods, no success. all mods without dll work.
   I don't know what to do, anyone have an idea? 
  In the same configuration as I have now, it worked with Win10 without any problems.

Edited October 22, 2023 by jeno3

[CPVC]

11 hours ago, Soldream said:

 

No, deleting your files did not eliminate this situation. I'm still getting it. 

I don't know how you programmed your sims mod so that it spreads to other programs and seems to be lodged deep in the internal system files.

Just to be clear, I don't care about the reshade, I care about the question itself, what the fuck?

 

It's not designed to do anything like that. I don't know why the logo would persist after RTBP was uninstalled.

[fanbongo]

22 hours ago, Soldream said:

 

No, deleting your files did not eliminate this situation. I'm still getting it. 

I don't know how you programmed your sims mod so that it spreads to other programs and seems to be lodged deep in the internal system files.

Just to be clear, I don't care about the reshade, I care about the question itself, what the fuck?

rtbp replaces the d3d.dll file in sims 4 game folder. Delete it and replace with the original and  see if it "spreads" to other programs. It's likely that reshade references this dll.

[Qwert_yyy]

7 hours ago, fanbongo said:

rtbp replaces the d3d.dll file in sims 4 game folder. Delete it and replace with the original and  see if it "spreads" to other programs. It's likely that reshade references this dll.

 

That's exactly what I did. But as I've written before, nothing has changed.

Edited October 23, 2023 by Soldream

[fanbongo]

6 hours ago, Soldream said:

 

That's exactly what I did. But as I've written before, nothing has changed.

I'm not seeing the same behavior. RTBP and reshade are installed and work together without issue.

Edited October 24, 2023 by fanbongo

[Qwert_yyy]

17 hours ago, fanbongo said:

I'm not seeing the same behavior. RTBP and reshade are installed and work together without issue.

 

I would feel comfortable if a few more people confirmed it. Just in case.

Because this situation is not a simple one. And your affirmation isn't exactly appreciated. 
1. new account.
2. absolutely all of your posts in this mod only.

Edited October 24, 2023 by Soldream

[jeno3]

On 10/22/2023 at 5:54 PM, jeno3 said:

• Hi,
   I got a new system with Windows 11.
   Now the game doesn't start as soon as I put the DLL in the bin folder. I've also tried older versions, always the same problem, it doesn't start.
   I've already tried it without any additional mods, no success. all mods without dll work.
   I don't know what to do, anyone have an idea? 
  In the same configuration as I have now, it worked with Win10 without any problems.

I looked through a few older posts and it seems to be a current problem. In any case, I found a suitable version that makes it work again.

[jeno3]

But I noticed another problem. Some cc's where the physics didn't work now work again and other cc's that worked with version 0.3-p5 no longer have any physics.

If I send you the package file, could you maybe see where the differences are?

You once wrote that it's the cc's, but why do they work with one version and not with the other? But other cc's work for this that didn't work before.

I also tried the experimental hack and used it for a while. I also noticed that some CC's have physics again.

 

In any case, you're doing a good job

Edited October 24, 2023 by jeno3

[Sutsiua]

I have Soldreams problem. I can open a program like WPD, and an RTBP folder is auto-created on the desktop, and the problems they mentioned happen.

[CPVC]

5 hours ago, Sutsiua said:

I have Soldreams problem. I can open a program like WPD, and an RTBP folder is auto-created on the desktop, and the problems they mentioned happen.

 

What is WPD? I'd like to run some tests and see if I can figure out what the hell is going on here.

[Sutsiua]

https://wpd.app/ its an app to take charge of privacy in Windows

[Qwert_yyy]

9 hours ago, fanbongo said:

Your unfriendly attitude is discouraging as I am merely posting my experience as well. If you bothered, I've posted on this thread yes but not just about the good stuff. With that said I am a lurker, but certainly not new. Once again, not sure how that has anything to do with your issue. Lay off.

 

Your problem and apparently a few others is new to me. I'm interested and will be following along to see if it gets resolved or where this issue leads.

 

I said what I saw and what bothered me. I don't give a damn about you or the problems you have in your head.

 

I left out one detail, I don't know if it's important. When the window with reshade is opened, the window turns black gradually. It's like it's rendering. From left to right, down. It happens quickly, but it is noticeable.

[GnatGoSplat]

On 9/24/2023 at 9:16 PM, sussy wussy said:

Leaving the gravity as is and increasing the value of power slider reduces the sag
Try these settings and see if there's more vertical movement

d3d9.dll 21.47 MB · 42 downloads Settings.ini 2.01 kB · 51 downloads

 

Thanks, finally got around to giving your settings and d3d9 file a try.  They are still very saggy and the vertical movement still seems not enough while the in-out movement seems too much.  Almost seems like maybe Z-axis and Y-axis are reversed.  I was able to observe as you said, increasing power reduces the sag, but also makes the breasts more springy.

 

Also found another couple of bugs.  Something weird going on with this Izzy Fabulous guy:

 

Also my sim lost her face here:

[CPVC]

On 10/29/2023 at 7:42 PM, GnatGoSplat said:

 

Thanks, finally got around to giving your settings and d3d9 file a try.  They are still very saggy and the vertical movement still seems not enough while the in-out movement seems too much.  Almost seems like maybe Z-axis and Y-axis are reversed.  I was able to observe as you said, increasing power reduces the sag, but also makes the breasts more springy.

 

Also found another couple of bugs.  Something weird going on with this Izzy Fabulous guy:

 

Also my sim lost her face here:

 

You might be right. I'm not absolutely certain about the breast physics being correct and I, as well as many other people, have noticed the Z axis being a little too exaggerated, while the Y is a little lackluster. I'm still experimenting and trying to find the absolute best space to do breast physics in. This is complicated by Blender, the 3D modelling program I use to help develop RTBP using an entirely different coordinate system, where Z is up, Y is back, and X is X.

 

It's still a little difficult determining a sim's gender and whether or not breast physics should be applied to a certain sim. At this time I need to examine the geometry of the mesh and try to detect, uh, "secondary sexual characteristics". Ok, fine I'll just come out and say it: My Boob Detector doesn't always work correctly. Sometimes guys wearing really puffy outfits get detected as women.

[Driakod]

Error Report: Unable to Open Log File; basic_ios::clear: iostream error
Failure when trying to launch sims 4 on a clean install except plus reshade
deleted entire bin, repaired game, added back RTBP d3d9.dll (after fresh download), error happens again
removed RTBP d3d9.dll, game launches
readded everything
renamed reshade.dll to original, game launches with reshade
no log file has been created (/Game/Bin/RTBP/Log.txt)
(I have multi checked to follow instructions, including software skinning false)
 

Help would be appreciated, any more info needed?

Edited November 5, 2023 by Driakod
forgot a step i did

[CPVC]

3 hours ago, Driakod said:

Error Report: Unable to Open Log File; basic_ios::clear: iostream error
Failure when trying to launch sims 4 on a clean install except plus reshade
deleted entire bin, repaired game, added back RTBP d3d9.dll (after fresh download), error happens again
removed RTBP d3d9.dll, game launches
readded everything
renamed reshade.dll to original, game launches with reshade
no log file has been created (/Game/Bin/RTBP/Log.txt)
(I have multi checked to follow instructions, including software skinning false)
 

Help would be appreciated, any more info needed?

 

This is a known problem that has to do with permission errors. The next preview version (which is coming very soon, I promise) relocates the settings and log files to a folder that your account has complete control over. These errors should be a thing of the past, you'll just have to get used to your RTBP settings and log files being in another location. Another bonus of this change, is that every user account on your system will be able to tailor RTBP's settings to their taste.