xRegenwetter Posted August 18, 2021 Posted August 18, 2021 (edited) Hey, i hope im not too annoying posting all my issues here. I ran into anohter problem, the mod seems to ignore tags on animations. For examble if a offer a Handjob to the father it plays a anal animation etc. Is there a way to figure out what tirggers the animation? Or is there a step i don't know about on how to enable that mods use the right tags? My load order Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 7 7 ApachiiHair.esm 8 8 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 9 9 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 10 a SexLab.esm 11 b SexLabAroused.esm 12 c Devious Devices - Assets.esm 13 d BeeingFemale.esm 14 e Devious Devices - Integration.esm 15 f Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 16 10 Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm 17 11 Amputator.esm 18 12 sr_FillHerUp.esp 19 13 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp 20 14 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp 21 15 SD Cages.esp 22 16 SimplyKnock.esp 23 17 SL Survival.esp 24 18 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp 25 19 SexLab Inflation Framework.esp 26 1a sanguinesDebauchery.esp 27 1b pchsWartimes.esp 28 1c EquipableStockings.esp 29 1d MilkModNEW.esp 30 1e RaceMenu.esp 31 1f RaceMenuPlugin.esp 32 20 UIExtensions.esp 33 21 SkyUI.esp 34 22 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 35 23 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 36 24 SOSRaceMenu.esp 37 25 Time Passes.esp 38 26 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp 39 27 Sexlab - Cum Overlays.esp 40 28 Spank That Ass.esp 41 29 SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp 42 2a SlaveTats.esp 43 2b MilkModNEW HF.esp 44 2c MilkModNEW ZaZ.esp 45 2d SexLab_Dialogues.esp 46 2e MilkMod_MilkPumpsBasicB.esp 47 2f SLSO.esp 48 30 XPMSE.esp 49 31 SimpleSlavery.esp 50 32 SOS - Shop.esp 51 33 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 52 34 yps-ImmersivePiercing.esp 53 35 dcc-dm2.esp 54 36 BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp 55 37 KS Hairdo's.esp 56 38 SLALAnimObj.esp 57 39 SLAnimLoader.esp 58 3a FNIS.esp 59 3b Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Edited August 18, 2021 by xRegenwetter
Monoman1 Posted August 18, 2021 Posted August 18, 2021 3 hours ago, xRegenwetter said: Hey, i hope im not too annoying posting all my issues here. I ran into anohter problem, the mod seems to ignore tags on animations. For examble if a offer a Handjob to the father it plays a anal animation etc. Is there a way to figure out what tirggers the animation? Or is there a step i don't know about on how to enable that mods use the right tags? My load order Reveal hidden contents 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 7 7 ApachiiHair.esm 8 8 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 9 9 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 10 a SexLab.esm 11 b SexLabAroused.esm 12 c Devious Devices - Assets.esm 13 d BeeingFemale.esm 14 e Devious Devices - Integration.esm 15 f Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 16 10 Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm 17 11 Amputator.esm 18 12 sr_FillHerUp.esp 19 13 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp 20 14 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp 21 15 SD Cages.esp 22 16 SimplyKnock.esp 23 17 SL Survival.esp 24 18 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp 25 19 SexLab Inflation Framework.esp 26 1a sanguinesDebauchery.esp 27 1b pchsWartimes.esp 28 1c EquipableStockings.esp 29 1d MilkModNEW.esp 30 1e RaceMenu.esp 31 1f RaceMenuPlugin.esp 32 20 UIExtensions.esp 33 21 SkyUI.esp 34 22 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 35 23 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 36 24 SOSRaceMenu.esp 37 25 Time Passes.esp 38 26 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp 39 27 Sexlab - Cum Overlays.esp 40 28 Spank That Ass.esp 41 29 SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp 42 2a SlaveTats.esp 43 2b MilkModNEW HF.esp 44 2c MilkModNEW ZaZ.esp 45 2d SexLab_Dialogues.esp 46 2e MilkMod_MilkPumpsBasicB.esp 47 2f SLSO.esp 48 30 XPMSE.esp 49 31 SimpleSlavery.esp 50 32 SOS - Shop.esp 51 33 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 52 34 yps-ImmersivePiercing.esp 53 35 dcc-dm2.esp 54 36 BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp 55 37 KS Hairdo's.esp 56 38 SLALAnimObj.esp 57 39 SLAnimLoader.esp 58 3a FNIS.esp 59 3b Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp The tag system isn't great. But you can modify the tags the mod uses in SexTags.json. Good luck. Also don't forget the devious device anim filter. 1
Silvain Posted August 18, 2021 Posted August 18, 2021 Did the SE conversion. Link: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/149018-wartimes-a-daughters-tale-le-alternate-start-scenario/?do=findComment&comment=3463767 Still haven't tested anything, but if the last version worked, this should be fine as well. 2
safado Posted August 18, 2021 Posted August 18, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, xRegenwetter said: Hey, i hope im not too annoying posting all my issues here. I ran into anohter problem, the mod seems to ignore tags on animations. For examble if a offer a Handjob to the father it plays a anal animation etc. Is there a way to figure out what tirggers the animation? Or is there a step i don't know about on how to enable that mods use the right tags? My load order Reveal hidden contents 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 7 7 ApachiiHair.esm 8 8 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 9 9 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 10 a SexLab.esm 11 b SexLabAroused.esm 12 c Devious Devices - Assets.esm 13 d BeeingFemale.esm 14 e Devious Devices - Integration.esm 15 f Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 16 10 Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm 17 11 Amputator.esm 18 12 sr_FillHerUp.esp 19 13 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp 20 14 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp 21 15 SD Cages.esp 22 16 SimplyKnock.esp 23 17 SL Survival.esp 24 18 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp 25 19 SexLab Inflation Framework.esp 26 1a sanguinesDebauchery.esp 27 1b pchsWartimes.esp 28 1c EquipableStockings.esp 29 1d MilkModNEW.esp 30 1e RaceMenu.esp 31 1f RaceMenuPlugin.esp 32 20 UIExtensions.esp 33 21 SkyUI.esp 34 22 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 35 23 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 36 24 SOSRaceMenu.esp 37 25 Time Passes.esp 38 26 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp 39 27 Sexlab - Cum Overlays.esp 40 28 Spank That Ass.esp 41 29 SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp 42 2a SlaveTats.esp 43 2b MilkModNEW HF.esp 44 2c MilkModNEW ZaZ.esp 45 2d SexLab_Dialogues.esp 46 2e MilkMod_MilkPumpsBasicB.esp 47 2f SLSO.esp 48 30 XPMSE.esp 49 31 SimpleSlavery.esp 50 32 SOS - Shop.esp 51 33 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 52 34 yps-ImmersivePiercing.esp 53 35 dcc-dm2.esp 54 36 BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp 55 37 KS Hairdo's.esp 56 38 SLALAnimObj.esp 57 39 SLAnimLoader.esp 58 3a FNIS.esp 59 3b Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Sexlabs already include a few that should be used. Likely an external mod is filtering the list removing the ones with the handjob or blowjob tags. ZAZ Anims and Devious Devices are infamous for that. ZAZ, disable the animation override filter. Also make sure ZAZ Sexlab Animations are registered. Spoiler DD's, disable all the Animations filters. Spoiler The mod FurnitureMarkerSex also does filtering. If you are using it disable the filtering options in MCM if the issue still happening. Try again. If it works leave ZAZ override disabled. The others you need to test with only a few options enable. You may want to get more animations for blowjobs and hand jobs. If you do not have yet, try Billy's . Spoiler Edited August 18, 2021 by safado 1
Samson Nite Posted August 18, 2021 Posted August 18, 2021 Thank you Silvain, I have a question or suggestion to Manoman1: I am always wondering why we need two stops for supply delivery for father, one for Belethor and one for Eorlund. Nothing happens even if PC sees both of them except they give her supplies. Can it be only one to save time for travel, unless there is any important reason or quest involved? 1
safado Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) @Monoman1 @Silvain Need guidance about the devices.json format in SE. Normally I do my own SE conversions, while reviewing the json files I notice that devices.json may need hex conversion. I'm right? or decimal is ok for Devices.json in SE version? Original for LE Spoiler { "form" : { "cuffslegs" : "54497|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "cuffsarms" : "54499|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "gloves" : "88492|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "boots" : "138434|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "fhuharness" : "337275|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "nipples" : "130133|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "clit" : "84259|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm" } } Converted to Hex Spoiler { "form" : { "cuffslegs" : "D4E3|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "cuffsarms" : "D4E1|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "gloves" : "159AC|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "boots" : "21CC2|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "fhuharness" : "5257B|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "nipples" : "1FC55|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "clit" : "14923|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm" } } Devices.json in hex. Thanks for the help. Edited August 19, 2021 by safado
Silvain Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 9 hours ago, safado said: @Monoman1 @Silvain Need guidance about the devices.json format in SE. Normally I do my own SE conversions, while reviewing the json files I notice that devices.json may need hex conversion. I'm right? or decimal is ok for Devices.json in SE version? Original for LE Reveal hidden contents { "form" : { "cuffslegs" : "54497|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "cuffsarms" : "54499|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "gloves" : "88492|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "boots" : "138434|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "fhuharness" : "337275|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "nipples" : "130133|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "clit" : "84259|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm" } } Converted to Hex Reveal hidden contents { "form" : { "cuffslegs" : "D4E3|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "cuffsarms" : "D4E1|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "gloves" : "159AC|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "boots" : "21CC2|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "fhuharness" : "5257B|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "nipples" : "1FC55|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "clit" : "14923|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm" } } Devices.json in hex. Thanks for the help. Shouldn't matter. If my understandig is correct and if nothing has changed in the recent versions since 4.9 in the way Wartimes equips devices then you don't need to convert. Just because it worked before. ^^ The problem lies with a certain function that only works when the form ids are converted to hex and I think this is not used with the DDs. However if that changed, if you have problems with the mod equipping the devices then it could be a form id issue. If that is the case your converted hex values need an additional "0x" in front or else they won't work. So it would be this: Spoiler { "form" : { "cuffslegs" : "0xD4E1|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "cuffsarms" : "0xD4E3|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "gloves" : "0x159AC|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "boots" : "0x21CC2|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "fhuharness" : "0x5257B|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "nipples" : "0x1FC55|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "clit" : "0x14923|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm" } } 1
Monoman1 Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, Samson Nite said: Can it be only one to save time for travel No sorry. I've no interest in tangling up the quest logic at this point. The idea is to push you into town in a vulnerable state so hopefully other mods can have their way with you. I'll see if I can add a toggle off completely. Edited August 19, 2021 by Monoman1
Monoman1 Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 9 hours ago, safado said: I'm right? or decimal is ok for Devices.json in SE version? What silvain said. There are differences between how JsonUtil.FormListFind works between LE and SE. Don't know if it affects other functions. 1
jc321 Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 24 minutes ago, Monoman1 said: No sorry. I've no interest in tangling up the quest logic at this point. The idea is to push you into town in a vulnerable state so hopefully other mods can have their way with you. I'll see if I can add a toggle off completely. I was hoping it was a precursor to that if you ignored your Fathers advice and went to the closer blacksmith, they'd be repercussions when you returned
pchs Posted August 19, 2021 Author Posted August 19, 2021 On 8/18/2021 at 2:03 PM, Monoman1 said: Posted 6.9. Link in my sig. Vow, Monoman1, I'come back to check after a while and the amount of work you've put to WT patches is astounding! 6
xRegenwetter Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 Thanks for the Help Safado, the correct animations are playing now
Monoman1 Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 44 minutes ago, jc321 said: I was hoping it was a precursor to that if you ignored your Fathers advice and went to the closer blacksmith, they'd be repercussions when you returned Initially I was thinking Belethor would eventually start blackmailing you - "Suck my dick or I'll tell the whole town who the girl in the black mask is" - Consequences: probably just shoot straight to slut reputation in Whiterun = prices++ But it's got lots of different potential. Not sure I'll be the one to develop it though. 44 minutes ago, pchs said: Vow, Monoman1, I'come back to check after a while and the amount of work you've put to WT patches is astounding! Thanks I'm hoping to be in a position to hand the mod back over soon-ish. 3
Iroha Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 2 hours ago, pchs said: Vow, Monoman1, I'come back to check after a while and the amount of work you've put to WT patches is astounding! welcome back) 1
Monoman1 Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) Posted v7 to fix a couple of minor annoying issues. Link in my sig. (Sorry Silvain ) Edited August 19, 2021 by Monoman1 2
Silvain Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 31 minutes ago, Monoman1 said: Posted v7 to fix a couple of minor annoying issues. Link in my sig. (Sorry Silvain ) Challenge accepted. 1
kapibar Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 4 hours ago, pchs said: Vow, Monoman1, I'come back to check after a while and the amount of work you've put to WT patches is astounding! The man takes patching business really fucking seriously.
safado Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 7 hours ago, Silvain said: Shouldn't matter. If my understandig is correct and if nothing has changed in the recent versions since 4.9 in the way Wartimes equips devices then you don't need to convert. Just because it worked before. ^^ The problem lies with a certain function that only works when the form ids are converted to hex and I think this is not used with the DDs. However if that changed, if you have problems with the mod equipping the devices then it could be a form id issue. If that is the case your converted hex values need an additional "0x" in front or else they won't work. So it would be this: Hide contents { "form" : { "cuffslegs" : "0xD4E1|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "cuffsarms" : "0xD4E3|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "gloves" : "0x159AC|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "boots" : "0x21CC2|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "fhuharness" : "0x5257B|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "nipples" : "0x1FC55|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm", "clit" : "0x14923|Devious Devices - Expansion.esm" } } Thanks for the clarification.
lcewolf Posted August 20, 2021 Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 9:35 AM, pchs said: Vow, Monoman1, I'come back to check after a while and the amount of work you've put to WT patches is astounding! If you have time, i am sure you are going to enjoy try the tweak version of your mod. Welcome back.
kapibar Posted August 21, 2021 Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) @Monoman1 I don't know how you feel about these kinds of things, but since WT is already on the more Slaverun side of the pervertion spectrum, it could be worth considering. There is one thing strangely absent in father's daily routine - excretion. The daughter covers all his needs - food, drink, sex, supplies, now even firewood. The idea is to add a daily job to clean up the toilet - at a low dep/sub it could be just taking the lavatory bucket to the back of the stable and empty it via UI. As progression goes, the father could require to urinate/defecate on the PC and use her to clean himself up. The toilet stuff could have MCM option like bestiality, for those who are not into this kind of humiliation. Edited August 21, 2021 by kapibar
Monoman1 Posted August 21, 2021 Posted August 21, 2021 2 hours ago, kapibar said: @Monoman1 I don't know how you feel about these kinds of things, but since WT is already on the more Slaverun side of the pervertion spectrum, it could be worth considering. There is one thing strangely absent in father's daily routine - excretion. The daughter covers all his needs - food, drink, sex, supplies, now even firewood. The idea is to add a daily job to clean up the toilet - at a low dep/sub it could be just taking the lavatory bucket to the back of the stable and empty it via UI. As progression goes, the father could require to urinate/defecate on the PC and use her to clean himself up. The toilet stuff could have MCM option like bestiality, for those who are not into this kind of humiliation. Hmm. I dunno. It's not really my thing. Scat's definitely not. Plus, the house is pretty full now. Especially if you have 6 slaves and a house party going on. I actually considered expanding it a bit. Not sure though. Might look odd looking like a shack from the outside and being a 'mansion' inside. (Side point: always struck me as odd that both your parents get the smallest rooms.). But where would the 'toilet' even go? I realize all you need is a bucket but even placing that is tricky at this point... I dunno tbh. I'll think about it. 1
kapibar Posted August 21, 2021 Posted August 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Monoman1 said: Hmm. I dunno. It's not really my thing. Scat's definitely not. Frankly it's not my thing too (just as bestiality), but I'm expanding horizons and thinking outside of the box ;). There are not many mods that offer this kind of experience. Only Slaverun comes to mind, the guard job for the Slavemaster. And currently Slaverun is not exactly dependable, so this kind of content could be valuable to some users. 1 hour ago, Monoman1 said: Might look odd looking like a shack from the outside and being a 'mansion' inside. There's always the cellar space which is already used to some extent. 1 hour ago, Monoman1 said: But where would the 'toilet' even go? The center room, before redecoration, has a bowl with the booze inside it, which isn't really all that useful IMO, and after the furniture has been placed there's still just enough space to place a bucket there. Marked by the red dot. https://imgur.com/a/lVu0t35
Samson Nite Posted August 21, 2021 Posted August 21, 2021 Dear Manoman1, a quick question: From SE 6.6 upgrade to SE 7.0, I see a new dialog option available for daughter to be a good slave for father, after few errands of sexual tasks. Does this option lead to FAH slave mod that need to be installed? I am asking you this because I have not installed FAH yet. I just have Simple Slavery and SLS and YPS. If I do not install FAH, what happens to next? My PC just stay kneel after I accept this slave option with SE 7.0 and that was all ........
Monoman1 Posted August 21, 2021 Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Samson Nite said: Dear Manoman1, a quick question: From SE 6.6 upgrade to SE 7.0, I see a new dialog option available for daughter to be a good slave for father, after few errands of sexual tasks. Does this option lead to FAH slave mod that need to be installed? I am asking you this because I have not installed FAH yet. I just have Simple Slavery and SLS and YPS. If I do not install FAH, what happens to next? My PC just stay kneel after I accept this slave option with SE 7.0 and that was all ........ You'll have to give me the exact dialogue. Edit: If its: "Daddy, please allow me to become your slave! Your daughterslut wants nothing more than to serve you!" Then it's a hand off to Sanguines debauchery. I've added a check that SD is installed. Edited August 21, 2021 by Monoman1
Samson Nite Posted August 21, 2021 Posted August 21, 2021 Oh, that's it. That is exact message I had. So, If PC don't want to go SD+, she can continue to play without accept that dialog option as usual, right? Thanks for quick reply!!!
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