Spyder Arachnid Posted January 25, 2024 Posted January 25, 2024 3 hours ago, Starfire12 said: I see. IIRC you can disable individual functions of MCG without affecting the others, so I should still be able to use those seperate addons you recommend. Am I correct in that? Yeah that's perfectly fine. Even the guide here mentions doing that if you choose to go that route. 2 hours ago, Two Bucks said: gd that was fire. i had no clue about this. so ocbp for jiggle with cbbe. Discrete Female Skeletons to offset the bone issues of bodytalk and the knee fix? wow. lets go! does the jiggle also work for when clothes are on? As long as the clothes support it, yeah. You'll have jiggles with clothes on. When it comes to jiggles, you got two choices. Regular CBBE, or 3BBB. Don't mix them, as they don't work together (at least, from my experience). OCBP has two different versions for CBBE. Just regular CBBE and 3BBB, not both together sadly. If you try to mix and match, you'll get weird stretching.
sen4mi Posted January 25, 2024 Posted January 25, 2024 And zex (bodytalk and fg) uses the 3bbb system if I understand correctly?
Spyder Arachnid Posted January 25, 2024 Posted January 25, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, sen4mi said: And zex (bodytalk and fg) uses the 3bbb system if I understand correctly? Not quite. They have their own physics system. 3BBB is a CBBE/TWB thing. FG and BT have their own physics. They all use OCBP to get physics, but they are done differently. Either way, you get jiggles in the end lol. Just different bodies do it differently. Edited January 25, 2024 by Spyder Arachnid
vaultbait Posted January 25, 2024 Posted January 25, 2024 (edited) 4 hours ago, sen4mi said: And zex (bodytalk and fg) uses the 3bbb system if I understand correctly? FG does use a 3BBB (three-bone breast bounce) system: that is, each breast has 3 CBP (physics) bones attached to each other and, at their root, to the chest. It's not CBBE's 3BBB implementation because that requires CBBE, but it's still a 3BBB implementation. 3BBB is integrated in FG directly since 1.75, so any clothing conversions made for that version or later will also support it out of the box. It also has butt and thigh physics, which I'm not sure CBBE's 3BBB variant includes, but that's technically unrelated to 3BBB as a concept anyway. I don't believe BodyTalk 3 has 3BBB because most men's breasts don't have such a substantial "jiggle" as to warrant it, but it's been a while since I pulled up a BT3 reference mesh in Outfit Studio so it might still be embedded in there and I've simply forgotten. BT3 does have jiggly testicles though, if that gets you going. Edit: Just checked for myself, out of curiosity, the BT3 nude reference body has only 3 physics bones: Butt_CBP_L_01, Butt_CBP_R_01, and Penis_Balls_CBP_01. So no, BT3 does not include a 3BBB system. Edited January 25, 2024 by vaultbait 3
sen4mi Posted January 26, 2024 Posted January 26, 2024 I did not know that 3BBB meant "three bone breast bounce". And I like knowing that kind of thing. (thank you)
Aleksi Posted January 28, 2024 Posted January 28, 2024 after having followed all steps, instralled in said order I get the dreaded 68% bug. Now, with BT3 installed, I get a blurb on my screen telling me I don't have a male bod replacer... WTF??? It was an older V so I went and DLed/installed the new one on Nexus...same msg. Went and got/installed ZBG, same msg. Bout to loose my F-ing mind tring to figure out wtf is going on. I did go to the AAF page here, that directed me to the discord forum where my Q got an odd response "rule 14" Ok... so I needed to DL AAF GFV. That tells me evrything is ok except I run A LOT of mods. I was previous awarte of this, but even it claims nothing else is amiss. So, full circle here I stand going grey from fustration.
Aleksi Posted January 28, 2024 Posted January 28, 2024 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Aleksi said: after having followed all steps, instralled in said order I get the dreaded 68% bug. Now, with BT3 installed, I get a blurb on my screen telling me I don't have a male bod replacer... WTF??? It was an older V so I went and DLed/installed the new one on Nexus...same msg. Went and got/installed ZBG, same msg. Bout to loose my F-ing mind tring to figure out wtf is going on. I did go to the AAF page here, that directed me to the discord forum where my Q got an odd response "rule 14" Ok... so I needed to DL AAF GFV. That tells me evrything is ok except I run A LOT of mods. I was previous awarte of this, but even it claims nothing else is amiss. So, full circle here I stand going grey from fustration. mods: AAF AAF Vanilla kinky... 50shades repacked and fluid patch atomic lust Bad end anims Daily life of hookers Savage cabbage anims Daily life AAF patch Human mannequins AAF patch UAP Edited January 28, 2024 by Aleksi
sen4mi Posted January 29, 2024 Posted January 29, 2024 1 hour ago, Aleksi said: mods: AAF AAF Vanilla kinky... 50shades repacked and fluid patch atomic lust Bad end anims Daily life of hookers Savage cabbage anims Daily life AAF patch Human mannequins AAF patch UAP Why isn't bodytalk on that list?
mircislav Posted January 29, 2024 Posted January 29, 2024 5 hours ago, Aleksi said: after having followed all steps, instralled in said order I get the dreaded 68% bug No, if you followed the guide to the letter it must be working because IT IS working. Start again.
Grodeg Posted January 30, 2024 Posted January 30, 2024 Hello and thanks for this guide, so precious, I got one question, Is that a way to have the same physics apply for the giggling butt and tits in leito to all of the rest animation pack like Savage or bp70?
vaultbait Posted January 31, 2024 Posted January 31, 2024 (edited) 23 hours ago, Grodeg said: Hello and thanks for this guide, so precious, I got one question, Is that a way to have the same physics apply for the giggling butt and tits in leito to all of the rest animation pack like Savage or bp70? I don't recall which packs have which (some may even have a mix of both), but there are basically two kinds of animations: those with keyframe physics and those with havok physics. In keyframe physics animations, the physics movements are baked into the animation itself. In havok physics animations, the physics movements are added by your physics library (CBP, OCBP, OCBPC...). Switching an animation from keyframe physics to havok physics or vice versa basically requires recreating it, so unless you're an experienced 3D animator you're probably out of luck. But make sure you have a body physics library installed as well as a physics capable female body replacer (Fusion Girl, CBBE-3BBB, etc), and then you'll see some sort of physics in most animations, one way or the other. Edited January 31, 2024 by vaultbait
sen4mi Posted February 3, 2024 Posted February 3, 2024 Problem: The ghouls in Suffolk County School have pinkish colored skin for story reasons. But UAP apparently provides them with green skinned dicks But the support thread for UAP is locked. And I cannot find anyone else having mentioned this issue. (So... I have now mentioned it.)
deff. Posted February 3, 2024 Posted February 3, 2024 1 minute ago, sen4mi said: But UAP apparently provides them with green skinned dicks I had Decay mod. Dicks were green as well. Not only your mod with green dicks
lee3310 Posted February 3, 2024 Posted February 3, 2024 (edited) 10 minutes ago, sen4mi said: Problem: The ghouls in Suffolk County School have pinkish colored skin for story reasons. But UAP apparently provides them with green skinned dicks But the support thread for UAP is locked. And I cannot find anyone else having mentioned this issue. (So... I have now mentioned it.) That's not the only creature affected by this problem. Visous dogs too. If you have time you can follow the skin trail and make a pink junk just for the ghouls at suffolk. If you are lucky, the pink color is a material swap and you just have to apply it to the dick meshes (use photoshop to make new pink texture for the meshes...). Edited February 3, 2024 by lee3310
zorger Posted February 5, 2024 Posted February 5, 2024 (edited) welp i fucked it up at some point and now it just crashes on loading cant be bothered anymore Edit: fixed it. Just needed to reinstall my game and do it over again thanks for the guide, it helped a lot Edited February 15, 2024 by zorger
vaultbait Posted February 5, 2024 Posted February 5, 2024 45 minutes ago, zorger said: welp i fucked it up at some point and now it just crashes on loading cant be bothered anymore wish there was a modpack or something for this spent like 2 hours on this This is not a guide for instant gratification. If you've followed it multiple times, you might be able to redo a setup from scratch in an afternoon. The first time I got some basic AAF-using mods installed in my game (admittedly that was well before this guide existed), it took me days/weeks to get it to the point where it was working satisfactory enough that I found things playable. Two hours is really nothing by comparison. Running into a startup crash bug probably means that Buffout4 isn't installed correctly. If it is, then it should have also produced a crashlog which can be analyzed with CLASSIC to try to work out what the underlying problem is. Keep in mind that these mods are fairly taxing on your game, and may expose latent bugs in or conflicts with other mods you were already using. 1
kaizersoze27 Posted February 6, 2024 Posted February 6, 2024 Running a new install on a new system and starting with AAF Manual on pure Vanilla game. I discovered a few things: 1) FO4 High Heels System was recommended in the Devious Devices RC8. However, installing HHS gives me random CTDs. Sometimes it works fine, sometimes when the Raider is female, it CTDs. Attaching logs if anyone is interested in checking. Removing HHS resolves the CTD issue. 2) I am still testing by starting a new game with Start me up redux and running into Raiders. While most of the runs work fine, The combination were the PC surrenders and there are two or more females leads to the PC stuck in hands up nude pose and No animation occurs (ScreenShot0.jpg). I use Violate and I am aware that some of the times AAF may send an error and occasionally I get "animation aborted" message. But in that scenario, the PC is mobile and can escape/attack etc. If anyone has any suggestions, thanks in advance crash-2024-02-05-11-19-48.log crash-2024-02-05-11-19-48-AUTOSCAN.md
sen4mi Posted February 6, 2024 Posted February 6, 2024 1 hour ago, kaizersoze27 said: Running a new install on a new system and starting with AAF Manual on pure Vanilla game. I discovered a few things: 1) FO4 High Heels System was recommended in the Devious Devices RC8. However, installing HHS gives me random CTDs. Sometimes it works fine, sometimes when the Raider is female, it CTDs. Attaching logs if anyone is interested in checking. Removing HHS resolves the CTD issue. 2) I am still testing by starting a new game with Start me up redux and running into Raiders. While most of the runs work fine, The combination were the PC surrenders and there are two or more females leads to the PC stuck in hands up nude pose and No animation occurs (ScreenShot0.jpg). I use Violate and I am aware that some of the times AAF may send an error and occasionally I get "animation aborted" message. But in that scenario, the PC is mobile and can escape/attack etc. If anyone has any suggestions, thanks in advance crash-2024-02-05-11-19-48.log 73.86 kB · 0 downloads crash-2024-02-05-11-19-48-AUTOSCAN.md 10.05 kB · 1 download Hmm... it sort of looks like you ran out of memory during physics animation of the player mesh. Meanwhile, the crash log is clearly a buffout 4 log, but the autoscan says it can't find buffout 4 files. So presumably you haven't installed buffout 4 correctly. Like the autoscan md file says, you should probably review https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/articles/3115 - it's probably worth reviewing every other step of this manual, also. 1
kaizersoze27 Posted February 6, 2024 Posted February 6, 2024 1 hour ago, sen4mi said: Hmm... it sort of looks like you ran out of memory during physics animation of the player mesh. Meanwhile, the crash log is clearly a buffout 4 log, but the autoscan says it can't find buffout 4 files. So presumably you haven't installed buffout 4 correctly. Like the autoscan md file says, you should probably review https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/articles/3115 - it's probably worth reviewing every other step of this manual, also. Thank you. I just came back to update on my findings after further testing. Disabling AAF_SCRS_Cr as well as Spicy Altered Biped Animations and Spicy Altered Creature Animations did the trick. Ran the same save several times as well as tested with new game, not getting stuck on any animations now. It is very likely not these mods themselves that are the issue, I think there is some conflicts, but for now, I got my issue resolved. Also, not sure what entry you are looking at, but I do see in the Autoscan that Buffout is installed, no? I followed this manual steps exactly
nPommes Posted February 6, 2024 Posted February 6, 2024 (edited) I have a problem i try to diagnose for like hours and i bet its stupid the penis of all my male human are like this Spoiler Edit : just reinstalled bodytalk and penis are back Edited February 6, 2024 by nSRaiden
cauamachado51 Posted February 6, 2024 Posted February 6, 2024 which would you recommend, Magno Cum Gaudio (M.C.G.) or AAF Violate + RSE II Combat Surrender and Abductions + AAF Sexual Harassment + AAF Sex Attributes Framework and Just Business [WIP] - WIP / Beta? I have a slight soft spot for MCG, for the romance/lore, but I think it is outdated compared to the others (2020 VS 2023). qual recomendaria, Magno Cum Gaudio (M.C.G.) ou AAF Violate + RSE II Combat Surrender and Abductions + AAF Sexual Harassment + AAF Sex Attributes Framework e Just Business [WIP] - WIP / Beta? tenho uma leve queda para MCG, pelo romance/lore, mas acho que está desatualizado em relação aos outros (2020 VS 2023).
sen4mi Posted February 6, 2024 Posted February 6, 2024 13 hours ago, kaizersoze27 said: Also, not sure what entry you are looking at, ... Line 57 of your crash-2024-02-05-11-19-48-AUTOSCAN.md: # [!] CAUTION : AUTO-SCANNER CANNOT FIND BUFFOUT 4 FILES OR THEY ARE MISSING! # 1
Starteller Posted February 7, 2024 Posted February 7, 2024 Is there a Wabbajack with all or some of this? Like the Fusion wabbajack?
vaultbait Posted February 7, 2024 Posted February 7, 2024 1 hour ago, Starteller said: Is there a Wabbajack with all or some of this? Like the Fusion wabbajack? There is not, no. You'll have to be prepared to read carefully and have a good understanding of the fundamentals of mod management if you want to utilize this guide or many of the mods it covers. 1
kaizersoze27 Posted February 8, 2024 Posted February 8, 2024 On 2/7/2024 at 5:09 AM, sen4mi said: Line 57 of your crash-2024-02-05-11-19-48-AUTOSCAN.md: # [!] CAUTION : AUTO-SCANNER CANNOT FIND BUFFOUT 4 FILES OR THEY ARE MISSING! # Thats because I have Buffout 4 NG, not the original Buffout 4
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