Troubles of Heroine

[Alturistix]

5 hours ago, Electric Aether said:

In the past, he mentioned that he has no plans for it, not sure about Uninvited Guest though. However he said he's willing to add quests that you write yourself. So get started! 

 

 

 

Lol I would but my projects are taking up all my time. Probably next week most likely.

[Amatum]

14 hours ago, Electric Aether said:

 

 

Do you have Fus Roh Dah installed?

 

It could also be Script lag (If this is the proper word for it) . What I do personally is exiting the dialogue and restarting it. That Usually Fixes it

 

I do have it installed, and the proper version for my system.

I will try your suggestion - thanks!

[DSHV]

 

On 3/16/2023 at 4:47 PM, Prounknown422 said:

what do you mean by "appropriate options", did i miss something?

If he follows, then he will have the option "Wait", and if he waits, then - "Follow".

20 hours ago, esdeath2331 said:

Can you tell me the code for the task?

Quest's id is AAABruisedandBusted. All quest ids are in the readme.

17 hours ago, Diver13666 said:

Can you tell me the name of the script or scripts responsible for prison scenes please?

AA*city's name*prison, except AACidhnaPrison.

17 hours ago, Alturistix said:

maybe you can expand Jzargo's Harem quest or the Uninvited Guest in Honey Side?

I can. For example, add there new students just added in the update.

[Teryn]

Could anyone maybe help me understand how to progress with the Companions with the sexist companions on? I've done "Escort Duty" and "Learning Responsibility" from the list, but not most of the others. Now nobody seems to have anything for me to do, Aela keeps saying "Not yet" when I ask her. Also, are the regular companion quests not available with sexist companions turned on?

[Chocolatnave]

Is there anything after the part in Spouses Old Friend when you introduce the lover to your spouse? The lover and my spouse don't have any dialogue options after they fuck, aside from my spouse refusing [Kiss] and "Allow me to perform my conjugal duty".

[theman123]

anyone know how stable this mod is? I don't want to end up throwing away a save if this mod breaks skyrim a lot.

[Karkhel]

2 hours ago, theman123 said:

anyone know how stable this mod is? I don't want to end up throwing away a save if this mod breaks skyrim a lot.

You can encounter some bugs but its stuff like 'can't progress this Troubles of Heroine quest' or 'this specific npc isn't talking with me I need to save and load the game' I haven't personally found bugs that ruined my save or anything but I also have not done every single quest ?‍♂️but if you mean existing save then I dunno, I never installed this on an old save files. I'd be vary to install any mods on an existing save to be honest.

[Кhrysamere]

13 hours ago, theman123 said:

anyone know how stable this mod is? I don't want to end up throwing away a save if this mod breaks skyrim a lot.

 

Stability will end up being the least of your concerns. The biggest issue with this mod is the atrocious dialogue. There is no subtlety, tact, and you can forget about pacing, there is none! Throw in the fact that every piece of dialogue, whether it be spoken by the countless NPCs that this mod sinks its gross hands into, or by the player, is absolutely butchered with broken English. This leads to interactions not only feeling like they were written by a 13 year old, but one that was feeding all of their writings into google translate 15 times before vomiting it all over the creation kit.

 

The mod author will never fix it. I know this because I dipped my toes into it myself, and I know just how much dialogue would need fixing. I got a front row seat to how absolutely soul-draining it would be to unfuck the hundreds of lines of dialogues crammed into this mess of a mod. That and they're most definitely not capable of it either, I would sooner entrust a monkey to randomly punch away at a typewriter to eventually form something coherent, than to ever have any faith in this mod author's abilities to write. Hell, it would most likely be a more fruitful endeavor to trash the mod entirely and start from scratch than try to invest time into salvaging this.

Edited March 18, 2023 by Кhrysamere

[throatdeep]

Merged SE 2.7.0

[beastlove69]

7 hours ago, Кhrysamere said:

 

Stability will end up being the least of your concerns. The biggest issue with this mod is the atrocious dialogue. There is no subtlety, tact, and you can forget about pacing, there is none! Throw in the fact that every piece of dialogue, whether it be spoken by the countless NPCs that this mod sinks its gross hands into, or by the player, is absolutely butchered with broken English. This leads to interactions not only feeling like they were written by a 13 year old, but one that was feeding all of their writings into google translate 15 times before vomiting it all over the creation kit.

 

The mod author will never fix it. I know this because I dipped my toes into it myself, and I know just how much dialogue would need fixing. I got a front row seat to how absolutely soul-draining it would be to unfuck the hundreds of lines of dialogues crammed into this mess of a mod. That and they're most definitely not capable of it either, I would sooner entrust a monkey to randomly punch away at a typewriter to eventually form something coherent, than to ever have any faith in this mod author's abilities to write. Hell, it would most likely be a more fruitful endeavor to trash the mod entirely and start from scratch than try to invest time into salvaging this.

Bet you're a one language speaking dummy

[Elias De Lorde]

Love this mod, amazing how much content it has. Wanted to ask tho, will the other endings be achievable organically? Instead of having to activate them

[zhuguannan123]

Hi guys, I've encountered some issues playing this mod and I wish to list it here once for answers:

1, 

Got into the basement and sexed with that animal but there's no hint tells me what to do next.

 

2,

I got like 2 or 3 quests in 'what to do next' state, and the npcs just piled up in the guild, such as these siblings' love-each-other quest, I packed and unpacked them many times, yet not one dialogue has showed up to end this quest. And that Lift-tail Argonian quest too, she's become very obedient but nothing tells me what to do to finish her contents.

 

3, 

The new quest in the 2.7 update. Talked to that guy in the Four Shields Tavern, got teleported to this cell, and nothing happens, is it just me or it's a bug?

 

Also about that female submissive Khajiit NPC's quest, I've failed to trigger finding the monk quest, anyone's got the console codes for the stages of it?

 

Thank you very much ^_^

Edited March 19, 2023 by zhuguannan123

[brewmasterhal]

18 hours ago, Кhrysamere said:

 

Stability will end up being the least of your concerns. The biggest issue with this mod is the atrocious dialogue. There is no subtlety, tact, and you can forget about pacing, there is none! Throw in the fact that every piece of dialogue, whether it be spoken by the countless NPCs that this mod sinks its gross hands into, or by the player, is absolutely butchered with broken English. This leads to interactions not only feeling like they were written by a 13 year old, but one that was feeding all of their writings into google translate 15 times before vomiting it all over the creation kit.

 

The mod author will never fix it. I know this because I dipped my toes into it myself, and I know just how much dialogue would need fixing. I got a front row seat to how absolutely soul-draining it would be to unfuck the hundreds of lines of dialogues crammed into this mess of a mod. That and they're most definitely not capable of it either, I would sooner entrust a monkey to randomly punch away at a typewriter to eventually form something coherent, than to ever have any faith in this mod author's abilities to write. Hell, it would most likely be a more fruitful endeavor to trash the mod entirely and start from scratch than try to invest time into salvaging this.

 

I feel like I'm in a unique position to respond to this...

 

Either sack up and re-write it yourself, or shut the fuck up about it.  If you think you can do better, stop whining like a petulant child and just fucking make it happen.  It's only about 16,000 lines of dialog, so get cracking.

Edited March 19, 2023 by brewmasterhal

[Кhrysamere]

5 hours ago, brewmasterhal said:

 

I feel like I'm in a unique position to respond to this...

 

Either sack up and re-write it yourself, or shut the fuck up about it.  If you think you can do better, stop whining like a petulant child and just fucking make it happen.  It's only about 16,000 lines of dialog, so get cracking.

 

Like I said, already dipped my toes into it. Many of the quests are beyond saving, due to how foundationally nonsensical they are. Some, however, are salvageable and I have already edited them to my liking. Now would that be something that's releasable as a mod? Not really, no, as I cherry-picked quests to focus on fixing and ignored the ones beyond saving. Said dialogue changes are also more personalized to my characters, whereas a patch that had the intention to be released would need to be more generalized. I do believe even the mod author is somewhat self-aware to the issues present within the mod, given that there is an MCM menu dedicated to disabling many of the quests and characters implemented by Troubles of a Heroine. 

 

Also, It would be extremely easy and funny to try to apply your logic (or lack-thereof) to other scenarios to truly show how, frankly, stupid it is. So much so that I can't help but theorize that it's some form of rage-bait, so, yeah, not going to bite on that bit of your retort.

 

 

Edited March 19, 2023 by Кhrysamere

[Chocolatnave]

11 hours ago, brewmasterhal said:

 

I feel like I'm in a unique position to respond to this...

 

Either sack up and re-write it yourself, or shut the fuck up about it.  If you think you can do better, stop whining like a petulant child and just fucking make it happen.  It's only about 16,000 lines of dialog, so get cracking.

Why are you even bothering to respond to this guy? You don't respond to trolls, it just gives them energy. If he was serious about offering constructive criticism he would have gone about it in a much different way.

[Electric Aether]

Has anyone tested out Gishar the cannibal?,

I can't do his quest yet. 

[zhuguannan123]

is there a place where I can check older update logs?

[brewmasterhal]

44 minutes ago, zhuguannan123 said:

is there a place where I can check older update logs?

 

You can search the forum for posts in this topic written by DSHV that have valid release version numbers in them.  You'll get a few false positives but it's not a long list.

[DSHV]

On 3/17/2023 at 5:11 PM, Teryn said:

Could anyone maybe help me understand how to progress with the Companions with the sexist companions on?

Some quests are unlocked by progressing with vanilla Companions. For example, PC need to become a werewolf.

The mod not prevents progress of vanilla quests, it's a bug.

On 3/17/2023 at 5:48 PM, Chocolatnave said:

Is there anything after the part in Spouses Old Friend when you introduce the lover to your spouse?

No. Nothing more.

On 3/18/2023 at 2:24 PM, Кhrysamere said:

There is no subtlety, tact, and you can forget about pacing,

I have to admit that I didn't have the skills to write sexist, brazen, nasty, rude characters for BDSM porn mod like adults with tact and subtlety. 

I post texts before implementation in this topic, but no one really wants to fix or improve the style.

On 3/18/2023 at 4:07 PM, throatdeep said:

Merged SE 2.7.0

Thank you. Added it to the mod's description.

On 3/19/2023 at 4:30 AM, Elias De Lorde said:

Wanted to ask tho, will the other endings be achievable organically?

No. And they are included a PC's spouse who may not be. I fixed endings in POS.

On 3/19/2023 at 5:54 AM, zhuguannan123 said:

I wish to list it here once for answers:

1. Have you spoken to Actor? Try the code setstage AAATOHICD 25.

2. They have global variables that change from training. Use set *global* to X. AAABrotherLevel to 4, AAALiftsSanity to 0-14 (If she has 0 sanity it will be more creepy than sexy), AAATwistedSisters to 7.

3. Vanir should be there. Try to spawn him with the console.

AAATapasveeSouthernGuest.

17 hours ago, Electric Aether said:

Has anyone tested out Gishar the cannibal?,

I tested him. It turns out the transformation into a werewolf is very easy. Just activate the animation and change his race. I'm surprised it's that simple. You can ask him to transform back and forth and even the dialogue does not need to be changed.

3 hours ago, zhuguannan123 said:

is there a place where I can check older update logs?

In the readme.

Edited March 20, 2023 by DSHV
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[gender65]

This is such a cool mod, thanks a lot to the author! Really super mod! And the main thing is that everything works there ! Bravo the author !

[DustyEverman]

How about adding an alternate ending to Farm Slave, where you can convince a few nearby bandits to kill the farmer and his wife and make the farm their new hideout after escaping?

The PC could promise to have sex with them after they do, which would give you the option of going through with it, or killing them after thery're done.

The way it is right now feels a bit weird, because almost everything else in TOH gives you some way to win in the end or turn the tables.

 

[zhuguannan123]

14 hours ago, DSHV said:

1. Have you spoken to Actor? Try the code setstage AAATOHICD 25.

2. They have global variables that change from training. Use set *global* to X. AAABrotherLevel to 4, AAALiftsSanity to 0-14 (If she has 0 sanity it will be more creepy than sexy), AAATwistedSisters to 7.

3. Vanir should be there. Try to spawn him with the console.

AAATapasveeSouthernGuest.

 

thank you very much

[Кhrysamere]

On 3/20/2023 at 3:25 AM, DSHV said:

 

I have to admit that I didn't have the skills to write sexist, brazen, nasty, rude characters for BDSM porn mod like adults with tact and subtlety. 

I post texts before implementation in this topic, but no one really wants to fix or improve the style.

 

It has to be tasteful, that is the absolute most important thing. If you want to have a character be sexist but not completely one-dimensional, you can't whack the player in the head with constant sexism in every piece of dialogue from that character. In order for them to have more nuance, it would have to be subtle. If you approach an NPC, and they immediately start lambasting you with things like "All women are cumdumps that should stay in the kitchen" or "You should shut up and use that mouth for something more useful, wench", that will almost immediately take you out of it, because most people don't talk like that, especially towards someone they just met.

 

Instead, you would want the sexism to be brought up in natural ways. For example, say you're in a blacksmith's shop. There's another NPC inside that's also shopping, if you were to approach them and ask for recommendations as to what kind of weapon you should purchase, the man could show some hesitation, but would eventually answer. The player may pick up on this and inquire more. After passing a speech check, the NPC would then go into detail about having a female companion that perished whilst out on an expedition, and that traumatic event has led them not wishing to see another female adventurer put their life at risk out in the Wilds, and should instead remain within the walls of the city to be safe. It's sexist, but it's also a real, understandable fear. The relationship between the player and that NPC could then focus on exploring that traumatic event and coming to terms with it. Shift your mindset when creating NPCs, instead of being purely defined by a single thing, in this case -- sexism. Have that be just a single part of who they are. Remember that you need to be simulating real people, and real interactions. Relying on caricatures will result in a paper-thin and unengaging experience that won't hold up to any scrutiny. 

 

In regards to nasty content, whilst I can't say I'm really into it, my advice would be that the setting needs to be thematically appropriate. If I'm walking to Whiterun, I shouldn't see a nude woman working in the fields along the road, nor should I see an Orc like Bruiser at the Sleeping Giant Inn within Riverwood, as Delphine would never allow that kind of behavior at her establishment.  It makes no sense that I should be greeted by a woman in binds offering to give me a tour when I walk into Whiterun, there is no pre-existing Lore that would indicate that Whiterun would be supportive of humiliation and slavery like that. I definitely shouldn't be having my character's clothes get stripped off by an NPC right outside the Blue Palace, the guards would arrest them on the spot. If you want to have a disgusting and nasty NPC, they need to be in a disgusting and nasty place. Otherwise you come upon these very jarring situations, that take you out of the immersion.

 

Same thing goes with rudeness, it has to be contextually appropriate, tasteful, and immersive. But what does that mean? Well, one thing comes to mind, the language has to be befitting of an Era like Skyrim. Looking back at the quote I made before, "All women are cumdumps that should stay in the kitchen". Would someone in Skyrim actually use that word, "cumdump?" I highly doubt it, that's modern slang, and has no place in a game like Skyrim. You need to keep the vocabulary consistent to what the people of Skyrim would actually say.

 

 

Edited March 21, 2023 by Кhrysamere

[Dehabe]

I read your article every time, but I feel that there are so many good ideas. I'm impressed with your farm story idea (especially marriage!) and I'm so grateful to include some of the stories I suggested in your work. If I was good at English, I can talk to your draft, but I am so sad that I can't. I'm always looking at your answer using translation. Thank you always.

[killer905]

On 3/20/2023 at 11:25 AM, DSHV said:

I have to admit that I didn't have the skills to write sexist, brazen, nasty, rude characters for BDSM porn mod like adults with tact and subtlety. 

I post texts before implementation in this topic, but no one really wants to fix or improve the style.

Unfortunately, if someone wants to improve the text, they have to imagine how it will look like in the game. And his corrections may no longer reflect what you came up with.