Troubles of Heroine

[Alturistix]

@DSHV If you dont mind then I can check the death hound in the creation kit for any leftover data from the default vanilla package causing it to attack PC.

 

 

Edit: it seems that youre taking all of the faction list and data from the race template. Id guess that DLC1VAmpire faction is causing it to attack PC and removing it should theoretically solve it.

 

Edit 2 : yup it works now. removing the DLC1Vampire faction solved it.

Edited October 28, 2021 by Alturistix

[netwave]

 

It is impossible to find a person/item just by reading the name in the description.

Yes, you can read it in the description of a quest. Markers only appear if it's hard to find. To add markers, I need to add aliases, and this can cause break of ongoing quests.

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Many of us are having a non-English main game. The names of the characters and locations do not match with your quest descriptions. Not to mention that new players are not familiar with the locations of the game.

 

We just don't know who and where the descriptions are referring to.

 

Quest markers are necessary for completing most quests.

 

Please add them and make it possible for us.

Thanks.

 

Edited October 28, 2021 by netwave

[Mazhen]

I didnt say that you changed the water, all i'm saying is that this mod is not fully compatible with RW2, however i made my own patch to fix the problem so..

[Golgo13]

15 hours ago, DSHV said:

Talk to Bruiser in the Night Mammoths den.

"My" Bruiser returned to the Forgotten Regret-- he isn't in the Night Mammoths' den, at all.  I went to him in the Forgotten Regret, but he didn't have the appropriate dialog option there to continue.

 

P.S.  I got Bruiser's RefID and used that to "moveto" him to my 'toon in the Night Mammoths' lair.  After that, his dialog started working.

 

15 hours ago, DSHV said:

For some reason, the falmer-wife's Alias is not fulfilled. I have attached a file for LE with a fix.

I'm playing SE, not LE... what can I do?

Edited October 29, 2021 by Golgo13

[DSHV]

18 hours ago, killer905 said:

Tardo on the vampire side has no dialogue that results in having sex with Valerica, Seranna or PC by him. His clone on the Dawnguard side has them.

This is the same dialogues. Conditions are: Tardo's faction (all 3 Tardos, except Tardo clone from Volkihar Cathedral), if Serana or Valerica's clone in a same cell, setstage for Vampires >=60 or >= 40 for Dawnguard.Can you tell us how you checked it?

15 hours ago, netwave said:

Please add them and make it possible for us.

Unfortunately this will break all ongoing quests if players update the mod on a same save.

10 hours ago, Golgo13 said:

I got Bruiser's RefID and used that to "moveto" him to my 'toon in the Night Mammoths' lair.  After that, his dialog started working.

I rewrite quest text in 2.3.4 and hopefully fix Studying Dwemer. Also Bruiser is a follower. It works for you?

Dawnguard add-on 1.1.1 and 2.3.4: bug fixes(mostly fix for Studying Dwemer quest).

[killer905]

7 hours ago, DSHV said:

This is the same dialogues. Conditions are: Tardo's faction (all 3 Tardos, except Tardo clone from Volkihar Cathedral), if Serana or Valerica's clone in a same cell, setstage for Vampires >=60 or >= 40 for Dawnguard.Can you tell us how you checked it?

Well i test this after bring Seranna to Volkihar i test this after this new big fixes

 

[netwave]

 

 

Unfortunately this will break all ongoing quests if players update the mod on a same save.

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I understand, but new players count for a large portion of your audience as well.

You may create a separate version with quest markers.

I am sure it will be welcomed by most new players (and many existing players, as they replay the game.)

 

Thank you for your consideration.

 

 

[Golgo13]

13 hours ago, DSHV said:

I rewrite quest text in 2.3.4 and hopefully fix Studying Dwemer. Also Bruiser is a follower. It works for you?

 

I tried getting Bruiser as a follower from the Forgotten Regret (that does work) and just leading him into the Night Mammoths' lair; but, until I used "moveto," he refused to enter the lair after I'd made him the boss.  I would enter the lair and he'd just wait for me outside until I came out, again.  After I used "moveto" to get him into the lair, however, he seemed content to remain there.

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I updated everything; but, when I go up to Calcelmo, he still gives me no dialog option to start a new quest.

Edited October 29, 2021 by Golgo13

[Lilzt3hcat]

Small request (that might not be easy todo?) to make testing the main quest additions quicker/easier (considering its best with each mod update to start with a clean save): A mcm skip so that all the npcs that are supposed to be at the forgotten regret are already there.

[DSHV]

9 hours ago, Golgo13 said:

he still gives me no dialog option to start a new quest.

You need to talk to Grym for this quest first, and then with Calcelmo.

Merged 2.3.4 SE version by nomkaz.

[Golgo13]

4 hours ago, DSHV said:

You need to talk to Grym for this quest first, and then with Calcelmo.

kk.  On my quest log, it just tells me to go to Calcelmo.  Thx.

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BTW, Kjon the Cocklover has a Redguard head and a fair-skinned body.

 

Same with Rayya's step-father.  Not so with Rayya/her mother.  Is there any way to match the heads to the bodies on Kjon and Rayya's step-dad?

 

Incidentally, one thing that Rayya and her mother can control about their appearances is their hair style.  Since most people want to be individuals, and someone under a curse such as theirs would probably feel this especially keenly, wouldn't it make more sense for Rayya and her mother to have dissimilar hairstyles?

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The ghost concubine stopped accepting inputs.  If I tell her to follow me, she agrees; then, retreats back into her own, little world and just stands there in the same spot, forever.

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I went back to Grym, but, he will not tell me to go to Calcelmo, again... it's already on my log.  I've done far too much other stuff, now, to simply go back to an earlier save from before I took the quest.

 

I tried "resetquest" and talking to Grym, again.  He sent me off to talk to Calcelmo, again, but, Calcelmo still had no further instructions for me.

 

Is there a console command that will fix this?

Edited October 30, 2021 by Golgo13

[ck2modfan]

Very new to ToH. It is very impressive on how much content has been created and how often new features are being added!

 

A couple of basic questions:

- Is the intent for the PC to fight a losing fight on being humiliated and find themselves helpless or to roleplay and go along with the quests?

- Outside of main quest, should PC go look for side quests or will they happen to PC through normal gameplay?

- Is there any mod integration with Skooma Whore or Milk Mod Economy / Milk Addict where Dragonborn is corrupted / humiliated by being regularly dosed and becoming addicted to Skooma or Lactacid?

 

Looking forward to exploring this mod!

 

[Simon_Says]

How long should it take to get Bruiser to join the guild? anyway I can see what my Dignity level is? I can see it being removed but I don't know what its at.

 

Been doing his stuff for 3 hours now, getting a little bored of him.

Edited October 30, 2021 by Simon_Says

[iguita123]

Is it safe to instal in mid-play?Or new game is a must?

[Golgo13]

3 hours ago, Simon_Says said:

anyway I can see what my Dignity level is?

There's a token in your inventory that indicates your dignity level.

[Alturistix]

9 hours ago, Golgo13 said:

kk.  On my quest log, it just tells me to go to Calcelmo.  Thx.

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BTW, Kjon the Cocklover has a Redguard head and a fair-skinned body.

 

Same with Rayya's step-father.  Not so with Rayya/her mother.  Is there any way to match the heads to the bodies on Kjon and Rayya's step-dad?

 

Incidentally, one thing that Rayya and her mother can control about their appearances is their hair style.  Since most people want to be individuals, and someone under a curse such as theirs would probably feel this especially keenly, wouldn't it make more sense for Rayya and her mother to have dissimilar hairstyles?

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The ghost concubine stopped accepting inputs.  If I tell her to follow me, she agrees; then, retreats back into her own, little world and just stands there in the same spot, forever.

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I went back to Grym, but, he will not tell me to go to Calcelmo, again... it's already on my log.  I've done far too much other stuff, now, to simply go back to an earlier save from before I took the quest.

 

I tried "resetquest" and talking to Grym, again.  He sent me off to talk to Calcelmo, again, but, Calcelmo still had no further instructions for me.

 

Is there a console command that will fix this?

 

I have free time to pass, so ill look into your stuff.

 

the first half looks like that you have a mod which replaces the default body of all NPCs with a fair skinned one.

Ill look into the ghost concubine, seems like there is a problem with the follow package

for the third half. reset quest often fucks up things than fix them. try using sqs to get quest stages, and then skip the stage altogether. Ill also look into the quest dialogue, but don't expect much, as dialogues are a complicated mess.

 

 

[crococat]

8 hours ago, ck2modfan said:

A couple of basic questions:

This is not a defeat mod. And, unfortunately, you must find tour troubles by yourself. I think that author is humilating users by making so many content hard to find)

[killer905]

11 hours ago, Golgo13 said:

Incidentally, one thing that Rayya and her mother can control about their appearances is their hair style.  Since most people want to be individuals, and someone under a curse such as theirs would probably feel this especially keenly, wouldn't it make more sense for Rayya and her mother to have dissimilar hairstyles?

Technically, you are right here, but if you used a mod for a different NPC appearance, such as Bijin or Ordinary woman, the "curse of appearance" would lose its relevance. Sure, you can make a patch for each of these mods, but that's the easiest way to be compatible with those mods. You can always assume that Rayya mothers want to feel like her twin sister, literally including the hairstyle.

 

11 hours ago, Golgo13 said:

BTW, Kjon the Cocklover has a Redguard head and a fair-skinned body.

 

Same with Rayya's step-father.  Not so with Rayya/her mother.  Is there any way to match the heads to the bodies on Kjon and Rayya's step-dad?

 

I had a similar problem with the "Shiva's Vanilla Hair Replacer" modem turned on after turning it off. The skin of the face is in line with the body.

7 hours ago, Simon_Says said:

How long should it take to get Bruiser to join the guild? anyway I can see what my Dignity level is? I can see it being removed but I don't know what its at.

 

Been doing his stuff for 3 hours now, getting a little bored of him.

If I remember, you can throw away an item called "dignity"

3 hours ago, iguita123 said:

Is it safe to instal in mid-play?Or new game is a must?

I use this mod on the save game with all tasks completed and I didn't have any major problems. They were some small ones, but the console helps.

[AcacGames]

Hi All,

 

This looks like a very cool mod! I'm about to install it now, but I just wanted to ask some questions ahead of time.

1. Does this mod work with Slaverun Reloaded? Is it recommended not to run them together?
2. Does this mod work with Sexlab Survival? It looks like its designed for it, from reading about it, but I just wanted to ask your experiences with the two together.
3. Lastly, Does this mod work with Devious Followers? Do they conflict? Do you recommend turning DF off while using this mod?

Thanks!

[crococat]

2 hours ago, AcacGames said:

Hi All,

 

This looks like a very cool mod! I'm about to install it now, but I just wanted to ask some questions ahead of time.

1. Does this mod work with Slaverun Reloaded? Is it recommended not to run them together?
2. Does this mod work with Sexlab Survival? It looks like its designed for it, from reading about it, but I just wanted to ask your experiences with the two together.
3. Lastly, Does this mod work with Devious Followers? Do they conflict? Do you recommend turning DF off while using this mod?

Thanks!

 

I have all this mods and much more, and all is working together with TOH. DF not conflict, just TOH have some events requiring different actors to be followers, so you would have to dismiss and recrut them sometimes.

[crococat]

My PC is bored to working with only one side of civil war, she is really pacifist and want to work for both sides. As i am playing with CivilWarNeutral mod, think it would be simple by console.

But wanted legal version from Serpent. Maybe there must be difference depending chosen side, but both TOH warwhore quest pathes could be opened for any player.

[Golgo13]

6 hours ago, Alturistix said:

reset quest often fucks up things than fix them. try using sqs to get quest stages, and then skip the stage altogether. Ill also look into the quest dialogue, but don't expect much, as dialogues are a complicated mess.

Thx for the reply.

 

On some quests-- as is apparently the case with this one-- setstage doesn't neatly dig you out of your hole.  I had already tried sqs and setstage to advance the quest a little at a time to get past the stage at which I was stuck; but, after gradually advancing several steps, my quest log continued to direct me no further than talking to Calcelmo in Markarth, where Calcelmo had no useful dialog option for me. 

 

At that point, I concluded that this was one of those quests I couldn't simply fix with sqs/setstage.  According to the mod author, I needed to be able to go back to Grym, again, (after incorporating the mod update), and be directed to talk to Calcelmo from scratch; the only command I know that is supposed to be able to do that is "reset quest."  It did give me my second shot at going to Markarth to talk to Calcelmo; but, it didn't get the mod onto the right track as the mod update was designed to do.

 

I've never gotten a character to this high a level, before (94, so far...) and I challenged myself to see what the highest level I could attain would be.  That's probably been calculated mathematically somewhere using the game's progression logarithm, but, I've been having fun trying to find my personal limit empirically.  Otherwise, I'd just start a new game-- God knows I've done enough of that, already.  I'm sure to do it again in the future; but, for now, I want to enjoy my properly tuned animations and rarely-attained power until I literally run out of anything to do. 

[killer905]

@DSHV

Slave party - After Obedient Housecarl

Spoiler

Player Female/Male

Hey, Iona.

 

Iona

Yes, Thane?

 

Player Female/Male

Clean up this mess after our last fun.

 

Iona

I'll take care of it right away, Thane.

 

<Walk around town in search of new methods for the "Mistress / Master and Slave" game>

 

<The brochure lying at the entrance to the inn outside.>

 

 

Brochure content:

 

<Do you want to be a slaves mistress or master?

You have a slave but does not obey you?

Do you have a slave and obey or obey you completely?

Do you want to show what your slave is capable of?

 

If you answered at least one of these questions then we have the place for you!

Finding this brochure means that there is an agent somewhere nearby!

Find him/her and say this password and give this brochure and you must hear this answer.

 

Password:
"I have seen many women, but those from the wilds of Whiterun are the best".

 

Answer:
"You have interesting taste my friend. Would you like some mead?"

 

PS:
You will pay and we will train you or WE will pay you for the show with your slave. You can also sell your slave for a good sum.

 

<Inside the inn there is the "Stranger" NPC typical Nord>

 

Player Female/Male

Hi. I have seen many women, but those from the wilds of Whiterun are the best.

 

Stranger

Hello. You have interesting taste my friend. Would you like some mead?

 

Player Female/Male

Not this time. I not have many time now.

 

Stranger

Well, that's a pity. (He whispers every evening I'm at the stables outside the city, we'll talk there).

 

Player Female/Male

It was nice seeing you my friend

 

Stranger

Next time I'll buy mead for you!

 

<Evening outside the city walls by the stable>

 

Player Female/Male

Hello again.

 

Stranger

When you are ready, go with your slave to our agent at Snow-Shod Farm. He's pretending to be a vendor, so give him this brochure.

 

Player Female/Male

Thanks.

 

Stranger

Good luck there.

 

<Go to Iona>

 

Player Female/Male

Iona, my girl.

 

Iona

Yes, Thane?

 

Player Female/Male

Take your whore outfit and collar, put it on and wait for me at the city gate next to Mistveil Keep.

 

Iona

Have you found a new way to play our game?

 

Player Female/Male

Of course!

 

Iona

Ohhh, immediately. Thane.

 

<At the gate- And ofc Iona clone!>

 

Player Female/Male

Ready? So follow me.

 

Iona

Yes, mistress / master.

 

Player Female/Male

Hello, I have something here.

 

Vendor

Hmm, got it. We can go?

 

Player Female/Male

Yes.

 

<Moves to unknown location.>

 

The interior is: Several cages, benches, slaves (High Elf, Dark Elf, Wood Elf all female) and of course a scene.>

 

Player Female/Male

Hi.

 

Aelf

Welcome to the slave show. And I see you have a slave with you.

 

Player Female/Male

Yes, she is very obedient. She doesn't even think about running away.

 

Aelf

Hah, these are the best and quite good value for money. It's just a pity that many of them want to return to their former mistress or master.

 

Player Female/Male

I don't want to sell it.

 

To Female PC ONLY!

 

Spoiler

Aelf

I've always been interested in why a woman enslaves another woman.

 

Player Female

Showing domination over another woman is rewarding.

 

Aelf

Have you ever had sex with a male?

 

Player Female

Obviously what a stupid question, but I prefer to dominate the others.

 

Aelf

<He raises his hand towards your cheek>

 

Player Female

1) (Grab his hand) Don't touch me you fool.

 

Aelf

1) You are indeed dominant.

 

Player Female

2) (Do nothing) Look at him angrily

 

Aelf

2) I was expecting something else.

 

Player Female

Are you finished?  Let's get back to business.

 

Aelf

Of course! So what can your slave do?

 

Player Female/Male

Oral, Anal, Vaginal, Gangbang, Rough and lately she's been learning sex with animals.

 

Aelf

Wow, interesting. We have several pets for disobedient slaves. Come slave, your mistress / Master wants a show with you. And you talk to me if you want to see a specific show with her.

 

<Iona is transported to the stage and she naked. Player and Aelf next to each other at the first bench>

 

Player Female/Male

Oral

Anal

Vaginal

Gangbang

Rough

Animal (Dog or Wolf/Horse)

 

We're ending the show for today.

 

Aelf

Your mistress / master wants a show, slave!

 

Aelf - I<f we choose "We're ending the show for today.> Sure, your money and come back again! 200 gold he give.

<If we choose "We're ending the show for today." We're going back (teleporting) to our home in The Riften.>

 

Player Female/Male

Satisfied, my slave?

 

Iona

It was. Amazing, I almost felt like a real slave. Thank you my Thane. I hope we will go there again.

 

Player Female/Male

You'll be polite and we'll see. Now, undress and jump into bed.

 

Iona

Yes, my Thane!

 

<Sex and quest end>

 

The quest can be repeated by selecting the "Iona, time for real fun in the Mistress / master and slave" game.

 

<Teleport to unknown location where Iona is on stage and she wait dor orders>

 

[DSHV]

 

On 10/30/2021 at 12:45 PM, Golgo13 said:

BTW, Kjon the Cocklover has a Redguard head and a fair-skinned body.

Do all new NPCs added recently by the mod have this bug? I make a facegen for everyone, but the Creation Kit for SE start behaving weird. There are texture and meshes folders in LE version, maybe they are suitable for SE too?

On 10/30/2021 at 12:45 PM, Golgo13 said:

Is there a console command that will fix this?

Quest's id is AAATOHStudyingDwemer. You can try to skip to 11 stage.

On 10/30/2021 at 2:21 PM, ck2modfan said:

- Is the intent for the PC to fight a losing fight on being humiliated and find themselves helpless or to roleplay and go along with the quests?

-Quests only.
-Quests are separated. This mod is rather Interesting NPCs for submissive PC (or dominant), a collection of new characters, encounters and quests (sometimes questlines).
-No mod intergations.

16 hours ago, AcacGames said:

I just wanted to ask some questions ahead of time.

1. Should work. You can, for example, start Real and False Heroes with the beginning of the enslavement of Whiterun to explain why Dragonborn is treated like that. Well, at least I hope so. Main quest of TOH also fitting. At least in the tone of the story.
2. Yes, both make Skyrim world more sexist. I recently added an NPC to Whiterun just for Survival to easy male follower.
3. You can see on the pictures for the Devious Followers - Continued's download page the character from this mod - Bruiser. So it should work.

13 hours ago, crococat said:

Maybe there must be difference depending chosen side, but both TOH warwhore quest pathes could be opened for any player.

Maybe I can add something for those who did not start the Civil War or have already finished it.

Edited October 31, 2021 by DSHV
Grammar

[Golgo13]

3 hours ago, DSHV said:

Quest's id is AAATOHStudyingDwemer. You can try to skip to 11 stage.

I'd figured out the quest id, and I tried skipping to stage 11, stage 20 and beyond; but, my quest log just continued directing me to talk to Calcelmo in Markarth where I'd get no new dialog options.

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I've followed all of the steps in "Sexology" that I can; but "talk to Kjonn" is still on my log even after speaking to Kjonn.  I was going to try sqs, but, "Sexology" must not follow the ordinary naming convention, since there is no quest named "AAAToHSexology;" and I can't figure out any other quest name that it could be.  ?

Edited October 31, 2021 by Golgo13