OsmelMC Mod Tweaks

[OsmelMC]

Just one small correction. The exported settings in self are compatible between versions but the settings exported are just a small amount of the Mod settings so import them won't be enough to deal with the change of version and for that reason Reset the Addons is extremely required 

[NicoleDragoness]

@OsmelMC

 

After a long and deep investigation I think to have found the culprit.

 

- For unknown reasons, the mesh "malegenitals_1.nif" installed by SOS, the mesh for the max size and weight, didn't have the "NiStringExtraData" reference to the HDT HAvok Path and specifically to the SKSE\Plugins\hdtm_smurf.xml.

- In the meantime the lower size and weight mesh, "malegenitals_0.nif did have it.

 

This clearly explains why the NPC males with very high weight didn't make move the vagina's labias.

Confirmed, after correction, that everything works fine now.

[4ubaka2008]

Hello there, is there any way to patched this SexLab Beastess SE - Patched 1.0.0 version for Skyrim LE?

[wiffe]

btw how to disable tongue slot? cause when use item same slot with tongue, the item always auto unequip whn in scene

[OsmelMC]

On 9/11/2023 at 11:15 AM, NicoleDragoness said:

@OsmelMC

 

After a long and deep investigation I think to have found the culprit.

 

- For unknown reasons, the mesh "malegenitals_1.nif" installed by SOS, the mesh for the max size and weight, didn't have the "NiStringExtraData" reference to the HDT HAvok Path and specifically to the SKSE\Plugins\hdtm_smurf.xml.

- In the meantime the lower size and weight mesh, "malegenitals_0.nif did have it.

 

This clearly explains why the NPC males with very high weight didn't make move the vagina's labias.

Confirmed, after correction, that everything works fine now.

Interesting.

I was expecting in this case, the issue start showing around the weight 50.

 

 

9 hours ago, wiffe said:

btw how to disable tongue slot? cause when use item same slot with tongue, the item always auto unequip whn in scene

 

You can disable the "Face Items" options on the "Animation Settings" page of the SexLab MCM. By other side change the slot of the tongues required the NIFScope and the creation kit or the xEdit. 

 

 

[plughead]

Not sure if this is directly related to Utility+, or if it just exposed an underlying issue with my load order. But has anyone had issues with perks/status effects resetting after having sex? IE, if you have a perk from Ordinator that adds a status effect, or a blessing from a shrine, it will disappear after a sex scene has finished. If you save and reload the save, it will act as if you just received the perk for the first time (for example, seeing a popup in relation to a perk that lets you select resistances to damage, but you already did so previously).

[plughead]

47 minutes ago, plughead said:

Not sure if this is directly related to Utility+, or if it just exposed an underlying issue with my load order. But has anyone had issues with perks/status effects resetting after having sex? IE, if you have a perk from Ordinator that adds a status effect, or a blessing from a shrine, it will disappear after a sex scene has finished. If you save and reload the save, it will act as if you just received the perk for the first time (for example, seeing a popup in relation to a perk that lets you select resistances to damage, but you already did so previously).

 

Did some quick testing, but it seems to have stopped occurring after uninstalling the SOS tweaks. Might pop up again later, but hopefully I won't have to deal with perk pop-ups in a real save game.

[Talesien]

3 hours ago, plughead said:

 

Did some quick testing, but it seems to have stopped occurring after uninstalling the SOS tweaks. Might pop up again later, but hopefully I won't have to deal with perk pop-ups in a real save game.

I did experience that bug in the past, IMO it is not connected to any one mod, but is more a sign of a deteriorating save, i.e. you removed mods mid playthrough; added mods, but didn't put them at the very end of the LO, etc. After a while that usually causes, hard to diagnose, problems. It appears those resistances and stat changes from Ordinator tend to be a first sign.

Edited September 15, 2023 by Talesien

[OsmelMC]

I found a reason for the OpenMouth issues of some actor's not related with the TRI files that is my usual answer to that.

 

The issue is with actor's with a small jaw or head in relation with it's body scale. Most of my actors have they original faces but I recently "play" with Miranda of "That Night on the Lake" quest and finally noticed it.

 

 

I'm now thinking on solutions...

I already have one system that adjust the OpenMouth size of the actor based on the difference between the actors scales so probably I can add another parameter to allow us treat some specific actors like they had a very different scale for the face. 

Or probably can be fixed with the RaceMenu using the Expression parameters or the Inflation Framework editing the Head scale of the actor.

 

Anyway the value of the fix have to be manually set specific for each actor on that situation

[OsmelMC]

The slider to change the strength of all the Phonemes of the specific actor was successfully included but even when my previous observation was true, a dipper look make me notice that the main reason for the issue with some Ahegao Tongue was in fact that "Ahegao Joy" was wrong for the females on the 2 and 3rd Phases

Where the Phoneme 7 should be 50 or less and the Phoneme 1 should be 75 or more. So now I also changed those values on the Default expressions.

 

Anyway, wasn't a complete waste of time.

 

 

I hope the SLU+ be ready enough to be released because I don't see anything else and already include a lot of changes.

[Agnot]

hola hola!

Como siempre: un placer y gracias!

Para actualizar: desintalación completa y nueva instalación?

 

 

[深淵の神]

Hi thanks for the update!

 

I like the new tweak for facial expressions. They are much more noticeable now so I have to tweak expressions again to avoid over exaggerated gestures but it looks more cool. I may have found a bug in the most recent update related to facial expressions, I don't know, maybe I have to reset Sexlab again but I'll do it later. The facial expresion seems  inverted now, the character giving the blowjob has the mouth closed and and the character who receives the blowjob has it open. Also, It doesn't matter if you use the filter to block and enable expressions, they are all showing during the animations, aggresive expressions during consentual animations and vice versa. Thanks for the hard work @OsmelMC

 

Extra: characters open big mouth like in a blowjob during non-blowjob animations

Edited September 22, 2023 by サマエル

[OsmelMC]

4 hours ago, Agnot said:

hola hola!

Como siempre: un placer y gracias!

Para actualizar: desintalación completa y nueva instalación?

 

 

Basta con sobrescribir los archivos y si tenías la versión anterior una vez cargado el juego vas a la última página del SexLab MCM y Reinicias el Registro de Expresiones y después Reinicias el Registro de Animaciones.

Si es la primera vez instalando el SLU+ o si la versión que tenías no era la versión más reciente, entonces lo más seguro es usar la opción "Clean System" para forzar una actualización completa.

 

"Clean System" probablemente este escrito como "Limpiar Sistema" en español pero lamentablemente debido a las inconsistencias de las tradiciones, me acostumbré a jugar en inglés y no estoy seguro de cómo están escritas las opciones en español.

[OsmelMC]

1 hour ago, サマエル said:

Hi thanks for the update!

 

I like the new tweak for facial expressions. They are much more noticeable now so I have to tweak expressions again to avoid over exaggerated gestures but it looks more cool. I may have found a bug in the most recent update related to facial expressions, I don't know, maybe I have to reset Sexlab again but I'll do it later. The facial expresion seems  inverted now, the character giving the blowjob has the mouth closed and and the character who receives the blowjob has it open. Also, It doesn't matter if you use the filter to block and enable expressions, they are all showing during the animations, aggresive expressions during consentual animations and vice versa. Thanks for the hard work @OsmelMC

 

Extra: characters open big mouth like in a blowjob during non-blowjob animations

I have to check but many of the Ahegao expressions have big open mouth for the Tongues. Also I noticed one bug few days ago that was almost disabling by mistake the value of Phoneme with the biggest value of the Phase. That means that all the expressions was depressed before and probably that's how they really should look, but I haven't checked the console to compare the MFG values with those on the Expression Phase, so I don't know if they really match.

[117xxx]

hello,i'm using SexLab Utility Plus v20230603 , i found that the"BIg Guy" animation,only for "Orc",will happen in normal screen,maybe the check of scale is something wrong.Thank you!

[117xxx]

And "Use Furnitures and bed" will totally ruin the  furnitures and beds, that make me nolonger can  sit or sleep.

[FireSplitter]

By "Include compatibility with "Cum Overlays Extended". So it Patch isn't required anymore!" means the patch from Cum Overlays Extended mod? Or what patch?

[OsmelMC]

6 hours ago, 117xxx said:

hello,i'm using SexLab Utility Plus v20230603 , i found that the"BIg Guy" animation,only for "Orc",will happen in normal screen,maybe the check of scale is something wrong.Thank you!

Not sure what you mean by normal screen. Spouse means normal scenes or scenes with actor's of the same scale. Anyway my SexLab Utility Plus don't have animations filters based on scales. I have to develop some ways to deal with the difference between the actors scales. With the right support, most of the animations can be used without issues between actors with different scales so more than make a filter to only show big guy animations probably will be better make a filter to exclude the animations that can't be used at some scale difference.

 

I said this because I'm currently using the Mod that changes the skeleton and scales of the vanilla races so I'm aware of the issues related and I being working on solutions. Right now my SLU+ can deal with the difference between the actors scales for things like the OpenMouth and this version include a enhanced way to calculate new Animation Presets together with support for actors with small faces in big bodies. I also made the bases to include on future versions a system that will add one cushion under the feet's of actor's aligned at more than +2 points on the Up/Down slider, while for actors with alignment under -1 on the Up/Down slider will flex the knees.

 

 

7 hours ago, 117xxx said:

And "Use Furnitures and bed" will totally ruin the  furnitures and beds, that make me nolonger can  sit or sleep.

Your bed and furniture issues are just because you have something overwriting the SLU+ scripts files.

 

 

[OsmelMC]

4 hours ago, FireSplitter said:

By "Include compatibility with "Cum Overlays Extended". So it Patch isn't required anymore!" means the patch from Cum Overlays Extended mod? Or what patch?

The Cum Overlays Extended comes with a patch for SexLab Utility Plus that you don't need anymore.

[Agnot]

11 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

Basta con sobrescribir los archivos y si tenías la versión anterior una vez cargado el juego vas a la última página del SexLab MCM y Reinicias el Registro de Expresiones y después Reinicias el Registro de Animaciones.

Si es la primera vez instalando el SLU+ o si la versión que tenías no era la versión más reciente, entonces lo más seguro es usar la opción "Clean System" para forzar una actualización completa.

 

"Clean System" probablemente este escrito como "Limpiar Sistema" en español pero lamentablemente debido a las inconsistencias de las tradiciones, me acostumbré a jugar en inglés y no estoy seguro de cómo están escritas las opciones en español.

muchas gracias! (Si, lo mismo pasa por acá con el tema lenguaje). Saludos!

[Goonorrhea]

Hey, noticed an issue with the new version of Utility+ and SLSO.

 

If using the reposition scene key (default "]"), the SLSO widgets disappear and when the scene resumes it seems to play out as a standard SL scene. Tried after and before doing a clear system of SL. Does this happen to anyone else?

[PippinTom]

10 hours ago, DerpHermes said:

Does this happen to anyone else?

 

Indeed it does.

[creepycream]

I have a few problems with the latest Utility+. 1. As mentioned above I too have the same problem with reposition scene key and SLSO. 2. The space bar to advance animations now plays an equip item sound effect which gets annoying real fast. 3. When using SLTools to change and animation for an autonomous NPC Sexlab thinks that I took control of the animation so whenever I jump the animation stages advance even if I'm in another room. Never did this before. 4. Sometimes I get a weird over exaggerated expression where it looks like a cartoon eating a really sour candy. The mouth gets all puckered up which results in heavy clipping and I can't figure out the cause.

Edited September 24, 2023 by creepycream

[EthernalNoob]

@OsmelMC, did you saw this?

 

 

Do intend to integrate (or add native support) to it in SLU+? I ask, because i realized you integrated Ahegao Tongues, and as SLSO is already integrated, so maybe an option (toggle checkbox) to use this tweaks would be interesting.

[Cicro72]

I notice two issues with the SLU+ 20230921.

 

As mentioned above, an wide open-mouth expression gets locked onto the female NPC actor. I see this at stage 3. Other stages are fine.

 

The actors cannot orgasm more than once.

 

I rolled back to the prior version and both issues resolved.

Edited September 24, 2023 by Cicro72
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