OsmelMC Mod Tweaks

*Nymra* · April 29, 2022

1 minute ago, OsmelMC said:

On SE the fade is already part of the sslSystemConfig. You can copy the function but required two NIF files. Or call it directly on SexLab.config.FadeStart() and FadeStop()

But I you use the SexLab function on LE you will need my mod as dependency.

ah damn

can I try to copy the feature from SLU+ directly into naked defeat?
I want to avoid more dependencies.

is there no getformfromfile trickery?

*OsmelMC* · April 29, 2022

12 minutes ago, Nymra said:

is there no getformfromfile trickery?

On the same script but on my mod i get the required objects using the GetFormFromFile() but you have to copy the them into your ESP file and the NiF into your setup.

By the way the functions are ApplyFade() and RemoveFade()

Edited April 29, 2022 by OsmelMC

*Nymra* · April 29, 2022

34 minutes ago, OsmelMC said:

On the same script but on my mod i get the required objects using the GetFormFromFile() but you have to copy the them into your ESP file and the NiF into your setup.

By the way the functions are ApplyFade() and RemoveFade()

yeah, found the functions, thx
the ESP stuff I already know. I ll dig into it, thx alot.

Btw another thing:
Is there a way to mute an actor via Sexlab or SLU+ script during sex? for a stage for example or a duration of time?
I basically want to implement my own voice style on the last stage, including an orgasm sound.

If it can only mute all actors or none that is ok too. Could not find anything that looks like something like that.

*OsmelMC* · April 29, 2022

9 hours ago, Nymra said:

Btw another thing:
Is there a way to mute an actor via Sexlab or SLU+ script during sex? for a stage for example or a duration of time?
I basically want to implement my own voice style on the last stage, including an orgasm sound.

If it can only mute all actors or none that is ok too. Could not find anything that looks like something like that.

The actor Voice is a property of the sslActorAlias and is settled before the animation start. You can change the property value at any time after that and probably before that too.

shade549 · April 30, 2022

Sorry if this has been answered before, is there a way disable NPC to NPC animations from auto advancing? I read on another post that someone edited the sslThreadController script to disable it but I have no idea how to do it.

*OsmelMC* · April 30, 2022

3 hours ago, shade549 said:

Sorry if this has been answered before, is there a way disable NPC to NPC animations from auto advancing? I read on another post that someone edited the sslThreadController script to disable it but I have no idea how to do it.

When you take control of the animation, the auto advancing get temporarily disabled until you release the control.

Permanently disable the auto advancing is the worst idea I'm listen. The obvious consequence is that none animation will advance.

Better alternatives are used by Mods like SLSO that can return to some previous stage before the animation end or start another animation before end with the previous one.

shade549 · April 30, 2022

15 minutes ago, OsmelMC said:

When you take control of the animation, the auto advancing get temporarily disabled until you release the control.

Permanently disable the auto advancing is the worst idea I'm listen. The obvious consequence is that none animation will advance.

Better alternatives are used by Mods like SLSO that can return to some previous stage before the animation end or start another animation before end with the previous one.

I understand that permanantly disabling auto advancing is a bad idea for many reasons.

But I'm trying to create an orgy scene with multiple NPCs and I don't want the them to end their animations while I'm editing the scene. It's also difficult to control every scene manually as I need to change it back to the animation I want everytime it changes.

If theres a way to at least temporarily disable auto advancing for NPCs it'll be great

*OsmelMC* · April 30, 2022

3 hours ago, shade549 said:

But I'm trying to create an orgy scene with multiple NPCs and I don't want the them to end their animations while I'm editing the scene. It's also difficult to control every scene manually as I need to change it back to the animation I want everytime it changes.

Now we are talking...

You should be started by say "Orgy". You don't want to disable the auto advancing, you want some sex scenes running without stop until you decide the opposite, and that's very different story.

First you need a common switch to stop the scenes, for that you need a Quest with a Bool Property to be able to toggle of all the linked scenes at the same time or at least let them finish.

The second is start all the scenes with a common Hook to be able to identify your scenes.

Finally use the RegisterForModEvent to fish the Stage change of those scenes and use it to rollback stages before reach the last stage or change the animation starting from one of the first Stages.

I can help you with the scripts if you show me what you have by now!

shade549 · April 30, 2022

4 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

I can help you with the scripts if you show me what you have by now!

Sounds great but I'm not a coder by any means.

I only followed the instructions on this post

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/134632-how-stop-auto-advance-stage-for-npc/

All I did was redited mod, quest and script names to match the name of the scripts. I actually got it to work but it's not perfect, the animation still changes at times.

Feel free to improve on it and even better if you can intergrate it into your mod!

scripts.zip SLDisableNPCAutoAdvance.esp

*Talesien* · May 1, 2022

I've been testing the outfit manager a little the last two days and I'm not sure how saving outfits, especially to json, works.
For example I've saved the outfits of several followers, which are applied/stored by NFF. Sure enough there are a corresponding number of json files in "Skyrim Special Edition\Data\SKSE\plugins\OutfitManager\Mod_nwsFollowerFramework.esp" Those jsons are pretty empty though, all they seem to contain is a reference to the outfit in NFF, like:

Spoiler

{
	"form" : 
	{
		"formid" : "0x478c7f|nwsFollowerFramework.esp"
	},
	"int" : 
	{
		"outfittypemask" : 1
	},
	"string" : 
	{
		"description" : "",
		"name" : "nwsFFCustomOutfit_010"
	}
}

Now AFAIK NFF saves the outfits in the save and hence they will be gone when starting a new game, so doing it this way is foiling the idea of saving the outfit for use in a new game by storing them as json.
Perhaps I'm making a basic error in saving the outfit in the first place? What I do is target the NPC, go into the Outfit Manager MCM, General Settings and click Support outfit in the 'Default Outfit' row. This works fine for NPC's, including followers whose outfit is not managed by NFF, but seems not to work properly with NFF 'dressed' NPCs.
I can of course go the manual way of creating an outfit. It would just be way more convenient if we could simply copy whatever outfit a NPC is currently wearing. Also with custom made outfits I can't seem to get your mod to create a json at all. If I click export while editing a custom outfit it says working, then done, but I can't find a corresponding json anywhere in the SKSE/OutfitManager folder.
While at that. I tend to claim to have an easier time remembering hex numbers rather than names, still it might actually be useful to get the name of the outfit shown in the active outfit section of the Behaviours, Especially since we don't see the number anywhere else if we game the item a proper name.

Also, while I'm in general not a fan of yet one more power to go to a menu ... in this special case I would like a power or spell to call up the Menu, instead of having to go via the MCM every time. Twice given that creating a new outfits requires closing the MCM and then reopening it (ok, technically I guess one does not absolutely need to reopen ... in technically ...).

It would also be nice to have a strip slot 'template'. For example slot 60 is the DD safe SMP slot. So right now I uncheck that for every managed NPC. Not exactly sure what 'stripping' that slot will do (if anything), but if it does something I wager it's undesired.

Finally the help text for "Restart" should be '... a major issue." ... as in the military rank, rather than like the town chief.

Edited May 1, 2022 by Talesien

Tops34 · May 1, 2022

11 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

Permanently disable the auto advancing is the worst idea I'm listen. The obvious consequence is that none animation will advance.

On the last couple of versions I didn't even get auto advancing regardless if my pc was involved or not. It does work with v20211020 which I am using. Is there a setting for that anywhere?

Edited May 1, 2022 by Tops34

*OsmelMC* · May 1, 2022

58 minutes ago, Talesien said:

I've been testing the outfit manager a little the last two days and I'm not sure how saving outfits, especially to json, works.
For example I've saved the outfits of several followers, which are applied/stored by NFF. Sure enough there are a corresponding number of json files in "Skyrim Special Edition\Data\SKSE\plugins\OutfitManager\Mod_nwsFollowerFramework.esp" Those jsons are pretty empty though, all they seem to contain is a reference to the outfit in NFF

That's because the only outfits recognized as "Custom Outfits" for now are the custom outfits of the Outfit Manager. Another outfit is considered as "standard outfit" and in those cases don't keep records of his items.

Usually i can't see the difference between "custom outfits" and "standard outfits" but I know NFF and can include his Custom Outfits on my custom outfits list and that way allow you save your NFF outfits but I don't recommend that because in theory can be dangerous.

1 hour ago, Talesien said:

Also with custom made outfits I can't seem to get your mod to create a json at all. If I click export while editing a custom outfit it says working, then done, but I can't find a corresponding json anywhere in the SKSE/OutfitManager folder.

My custom outfits are saved on the same way that all the other outfits, of course including the outfit items on the JSON. Check the "SKSE/Plugins/OutfitManager/Mod_OutfitManager.esp/" folder on the Mod setup folder and the overwriting folder.

By the way remember to also export the general settings because that JSON is the one with the supported outfits list, and once imported will try to restore all the supported outfits and should also import the JSON files of each outfit included as part of the settings importation.

*OsmelMC* · May 1, 2022

15 minutes ago, Tops34 said:

On the last couple of versions I didn't even get auto advancing regardless if my pc was involved or not. It does work with v20211020 which I am using. Is there a setting for that anywhere?

Nop but you probably have something wrong.

If you are using AE apparently the native GetTime function stop working after some SKSE update at least one time on the past. That cause to fail everything related with the time on SexLab included the auto advance. For some time i include one script with the no native version of the function but the last SexLab Framework for AE already fix the issue and my script not longer was required so i remove it from the setup.

Of course if you are not using Skyrim AE, then should be other problem and you should send me the papyrus.0.log the next time you try the last version of SLU+

Prymerion · May 1, 2022

@OsmelMC

I have a problem with SexLab Utility Plus. I install according to the instructions (first the main SexLab 1.62, then SexLab Utility Plus). When I start a new game and want to use the default Matchmaker spell from SexLab, after using it on an NPC I get a message like " irresistible aura". Then instead of running some animation from the PC, the masturbation animation of that NPC comes on. Always. After removing SexLab Utility Plus the problem disappears and Matchmaker works normally.

When this problem occurs, the console shows "WIDeadBodyCleanupScript". Also, in the SexLab Menu (Registry Info) something is missing. Destription there says "Animations ($SSL_Character)". So something is missing here.

It doesn't matter if I choose the version with or without the use of furniture when installing. I have Skyrim LE.

I have carried out additional tests - SexLab Utility Plus is completely not working for me. I am able to run an NPC animation with my PC using other plugins but furniture is NEVER used, although I have such animations and everything is set up properly in the configuration. What i do wrong?

Edited May 1, 2022 by Prymerion

Tops34 · May 5, 2022

On 5/1/2022 at 4:40 AM, OsmelMC said:

Nop but you probably have something wrong.

If you are using AE apparently the native GetTime function stop working after some SKSE update at least one time on the past. That cause to fail everything related with the time on SexLab included the auto advance. For some time i include one script with the no native version of the function but the last SexLab Framework for AE already fix the issue and my script not longer was required so i remove it from the setup.

Of course if you are not using Skyrim AE, then should be other problem and you should send me the papyrus.0.log the next time you try the last version of SLU+

I have downgraded to 1.597 but kept the cc. SL version is 1.63.

According to the log, the function GetCurrentGameRealTime isn't been found.

Papyrus.0.log

I hope the part in the spoiler is enough. In any case I have uploaded the log.

[SexLabThread02 (1B06C62C)].sslthreadcontroller.OnUpdate() - "sslThreadController.psc" Line ?
[05/05/2022 - 02:24:15AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Chandra] - Expression.Applied(Shy) Strength:6; OpenMouth:False; IsLipFixed:False
[05/05/2022 - 02:24:15AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Vanikseth] - PlayMoan:True; UseLipSync:TRUE; OpenMouth:False
[05/05/2022 - 02:24:15AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Nord] - Expression.Applied(Pleasure) Strength:6; OpenMouth:False; IsLipFixed:False
[05/05/2022 - 02:24:15AM] error: Static function GetCurrentGameRealTime not found on object SexLabUtil. Aborting call and returning None
stack:
   [SexLabThread02 (1B06C62C)].sslthreadcontroller.OnUpdate() - "sslThreadController.psc" Line ?
[05/05/2022 - 02:24:15AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp37"
stack:
   [SexLabThread02 (1B06C62C)].sslthreadcontroller.OnUpdate() - "sslThreadController.psc" Line ?
[05/05/2022 - 02:24:15AM] error: Static function GetCurrentGameRealTime not found on object SexLabUtil. Aborting call and returning None
stack:
   [SexLabThread02 (1B06C62C)].sslthreadcontroller.OnUpdate() - "sslThreadController.psc" Line ?
[05/05/2022 - 02:24:15AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp37"
stack:
   [SexLabThread02 (1B06C62C)].sslthreadcontroller.OnUpdate() - "sslThreadController.psc" Line ?
[05/05/2022 - 02:24:16AM] error: Static function GetCurrentGameRealTime not found on object SexLabUtil. Aborting call and returning None
stack:
   [SexLabThread02 (1B06C62C)].sslthreadcontroller.OnUpdate() - "sslThreadController.psc" Line ?
[05/05/2022 - 02:24:16AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp37"
stack:

Edited May 5, 2022 by Tops34

*OsmelMC* · May 5, 2022

12 hours ago, Tops34 said:

I have downgraded to 1.597 but kept the cc. SL version is 1.63.

According to the log, the function GetCurrentGameRealTime isn't been found.

Papyrus.0.log 3.28 MB · 1 download

I hope the part in the spoiler is enough. In any case I have uploaded the log.

Reveal hidden contents

[SexLabThread02 (1B06C62C)].sslthreadcontroller.OnUpdate() - "sslThreadController.psc" Line ?
[05/05/2022 - 02:24:15AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Chandra] - Expression.Applied(Shy) Strength:6; OpenMouth:False; IsLipFixed:False
[05/05/2022 - 02:24:15AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Vanikseth] - PlayMoan:True; UseLipSync:TRUE; OpenMouth:False
[05/05/2022 - 02:24:15AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Nord] - Expression.Applied(Pleasure) Strength:6; OpenMouth:False; IsLipFixed:False
[05/05/2022 - 02:24:15AM] error: Static function GetCurrentGameRealTime not found on object SexLabUtil. Aborting call and returning None
stack:
   [SexLabThread02 (1B06C62C)].sslthreadcontroller.OnUpdate() - "sslThreadController.psc" Line ?
[05/05/2022 - 02:24:15AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp37"
stack:
   [SexLabThread02 (1B06C62C)].sslthreadcontroller.OnUpdate() - "sslThreadController.psc" Line ?
[05/05/2022 - 02:24:15AM] error: Static function GetCurrentGameRealTime not found on object SexLabUtil. Aborting call and returning None
stack:
   [SexLabThread02 (1B06C62C)].sslthreadcontroller.OnUpdate() - "sslThreadController.psc" Line ?
[05/05/2022 - 02:24:15AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp37"
stack:
   [SexLabThread02 (1B06C62C)].sslthreadcontroller.OnUpdate() - "sslThreadController.psc" Line ?
[05/05/2022 - 02:24:16AM] error: Static function GetCurrentGameRealTime not found on object SexLabUtil. Aborting call and returning None
stack:
   [SexLabThread02 (1B06C62C)].sslthreadcontroller.OnUpdate() - "sslThreadController.psc" Line ?
[05/05/2022 - 02:24:16AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp37"
stack:

Reinstall the SLU+ and make sure of select the SE version.

By the way is only compatible with the latest SexLab Framework, that means nothing of BETA

Prymerion · May 5, 2022

On 5/1/2022 at 12:37 PM, Prymerion said:

@OsmelMC

I have a problem with SexLab Utility Plus. I install according to the instructions (first the main SexLab 1.62, then SexLab Utility Plus). When I start a new game and want to use the default Matchmaker spell from SexLab, after using it on an NPC I get a message like " irresistible aura". Then instead of running some animation from the PC, the masturbation animation of that NPC comes on. Always. After removing SexLab Utility Plus the problem disappears and Matchmaker works normally.

When this problem occurs, the console shows "WIDeadBodyCleanupScript". Also, in the SexLab Menu (Registry Info) something is missing. Destription there says "Animations ($SSL_Character)". So something is missing here.

It doesn't matter if I choose the version with or without the use of furniture when installing. I have Skyrim LE.

I have carried out additional tests - SexLab Utility Plus is completely not working for me. I am able to run an NPC animation with my PC using other plugins but furniture is NEVER used, although I have such animations and everything is set up properly in the configuration. What i do wrong?

@OsmelMC any help on this case?

*OsmelMC* · May 6, 2022

4 hours ago, Prymerion said:

@OsmelMC any help on this case?

The debug spells are two, one is to select the player and the other is to select the NPC's one by one. You have around 10 between one actor and the next one before the function decide that is enough waiting and start the scene with the currently enchanted actors.

Make sure of use the last version of SexLab Framework for your Skyrim Edition. In the case of the Skyrim AE also make sure of have the last SKSE because one of the previous versions cause a error with the Time functions of the SexLab.

If your problem continue, send me the file "Papyrus.0.log" without that i can't help you with this problem.

Aryto · May 6, 2022

your tweaks always immersive, is it possible for sex voice from sexlab to use fuz format?

Edited May 6, 2022 by Aryto

Prymerion · May 6, 2022

20 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

The debug spells are two, one is to select the player and the other is to select the NPC's one by one. You have around 10 between one actor and the next one before the function decide that is enough waiting and start the scene with the currently enchanted actors.

Make sure of use the last version of SexLab Framework for your Skyrim Edition. In the case of the Skyrim AE also make sure of have the last SKSE because one of the previous versions cause a error with the Time functions of the SexLab.

If your problem continue, send me the file "Papyrus.0.log" without that i can't help you with this problem.

@OsmelMC

Yes, I know there are two spells that test animations. I am using the spell that should turn on the joint animation of the NPC and PC. And this spell works fine when SexLab Utility Plus IS NOT installed. When SexLab Utility Plus is installed this spell DOES NOT WORK properly (it always starts the NPC masturbation animation).

I would like to point out again that I am using Skyrim LEGENDARY EDITION. I have the latest SexLab Framework, the latest SKSE.

In attachment Papyrus.0.log

Papyrus.0.log

Edited May 6, 2022 by Prymerion

Tops34 · May 6, 2022

On 5/5/2022 at 2:41 PM, OsmelMC said:

Reinstall the SLU+ and make sure of select the SE version.

By the way is only compatible with the latest SexLab Framework, that means nothing of BETA

I'm using the current 1.63 version from the download page but it's been modified (SL unfiltered). But that shouldn't cause the problem even it changes the text of the version back to beta 9. Anyway I'll give it a try next time I start a new game. For now I have switched back to the old version.

Papyrus.0.log

Edited May 6, 2022 by Tops34

*OsmelMC* · May 7, 2022

3 hours ago, Aryto said:

your tweaks always immersive, is it possible for sex voice from sexlab to use fuz format?

Explain your question!?

*Nymra* · May 7, 2022

1 minute ago, OsmelMC said:

Explain your question!?

I think he wants the sexlab voices to be fuz format instead of wav

*OsmelMC* · May 7, 2022

2 hours ago, Prymerion said:

@OsmelMC

Yes, I know there are two spells that test animations. I am using the spell that should turn on the joint animation of the NPC and PC. And this spell works fine when SexLab Utility Plus IS NOT installed. When SexLab Utility Plus is installed this spell DOES NOT WORK properly (it always starts the NPC masturbation animation).

I would like to point out again that I am using Skyrim LEGENDARY EDITION. I have the latest SexLab Framework, the latest SKSE.

In attachment Papyrus.0.log

Papyrus.0.log 10.32 kB · 1 download

The logs show only one cast of the spell over the actor "Snow" don't show evidence of any other actor receiving the spell not even failing the verification and seems to be waiting 15 seconds for the next actor like is supposed to do.

Noticed that the Debug Spells are made for test and not for playing. But the most important thing is that the Debug Spells of the SLU+ is very different from the Debug Spells of the SexLab Framework.

The default Debug Spell can play only scenes with one or two actors and for i remember when you cast the Target Spell this play animations with the player and the target. The Debug Spell of the SLU+ is very different and do a lot more but have his own rules, for example:

You can cast the spell on 1 or more NPC's up to 5 and only those actors will be part of the animation.

Between one actor and the next one, the spell wait 15 seconds before considered that you don't want more actors on the animation and start the scene. That means you have around 70 seconds to select 5 actors.

The Self spell add the player to the scene in the same way that the target spell do it with the NPC's. That means that if you want the player on the scene with NPC's you need both spells.

Finally once the actors selection is done or full, the Spells will "Frizzes" if is casted before the animation start.

Just to be clear, the Debug Spells was made for exclusive use of the developers of SexLab Framework but too many users insist on use it against all the Ashal warnings. The right alternative is the MathMaker but many users confuses the "Debug" Spells with the "Irresistible Attraction" Spells so I changed the Debug Spells to behave like the Irresistible Attraction Spells and that way don't need the MathMaker.

*OsmelMC* · May 7, 2022

1 hour ago, Nymra said:

I think he wants the sexlab voice

In that case, SexLab support it but for I know it have some issues probably without solution.

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