OsmelMC Mod Tweaks

[Someone92]

13 hours ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

I've noticed that I haven't been getting any more-than-one-other-person rape scenes, and I think it started when I installed the SL Adventures tweak.  I'll get notified that NPC1 and NPC2 have caught me and are gonna rape me, then only NPC1 does it and it ends.  Or that I'm going to be gangraped, and a bunch of NPCs gather round then it only does a one-on-one scene and stops, no multiples, no train runs.  I will go through my settings to see if I messed something up.  Has anyone else experienced this?

I know that the tweak disables / hides the option to set a minimum of pursuers in the MCM. But I don't think this is the cause of your issues, but the tweak might break more.

[Talesien]

17 hours ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

I've noticed that I haven't been getting any more-than-one-other-person rape scenes, and I think it started when I installed the SL Adventures tweak.  I'll get notified that NPC1 and NPC2 have caught me and are gonna rape me, then only NPC1 does it and it ends.  Or that I'm going to be gangraped, and a bunch of NPCs gather round then it only does a one-on-one scene and stops, no multiples, no train runs.  I will go through my settings to see if I messed something up.  Has anyone else experienced this?

Interesting, I've noticed the same, but didn't make the connection. Perhaps the tweak needs to be tweaked.

[OsmelMC]

@Nymra

I just test the spell to keep everyone away from the sex scene and is working. Probably too much because to made it work I put together the Frenzy spell and the Fear Spell using the Circle of Protection as base. Very funny because as consequence now I have a Passive-Aggressive (bipolar) Spell and everybody under the spell effects get crazy and run away from the scene.

 

By other side the menu of the new furniture system that allow you to select the furniture to use from those near to the player, still don't work as intended. So, i can't send you a copy for testing until be fine.

 

 

Edited March 30, 2022 by OsmelMC

[Nymra]

58 minutes ago, OsmelMC said:

@Nymra

I just test the spell to keep everyone away from the sex scene and is working. Probably too much because to made it work I put together the Frenzy spell and the Fear Spell using the Circle of Protection as base. Berry funny because as consequence now I have a Passive-Aggresive (bipolar) spell and every one under the spell effects get crazy and run away from the scene.

 

 

ahahaha, this sounds absolutly hilarious, tho

I bet somebody would make a mod out of it.... "Sex Terror in Skyrim" or sth! 

 

58 minutes ago, OsmelMC said:

By other side the menu of the new furniture system that allow you to select the furniture to use from those near to the player, still don't work as intended. So, i can't send you a copy for testing until be fine.

 

take your time!

[Beyound]

On 3/25/2022 at 3:46 AM, OsmelMC said:

I use the "SOS - SexLab Addon" that allow you set on the SOS MCM if a schlong assign SexLab genders. Is light weight by the way, since is part of the SOS schlong auto equip scripts.

 

Tried using SOS - Sexlab Addon and have a problem where the penis only shows up during scenes for one of the futa characters, normally one that is doing the Male role.  Outside of scenes, removing armour it doesn't get equiped for anyone.  Is it meant to act like that?  Without the Addon it equips properly for all futa characters.

 

Edit: Clicking restart unregisters all addons then doesn't register them and says SOS restarted.  Just going to revert to a save before installing that addon.

Edited March 30, 2022 by Beyound

[Talesien]

13 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

I just test the spell to keep everyone away from the sex scene and is working. Probably too much because to made it work I put together the Frenzy spell and the Fear Spell using the Circle of Protection as base. Very funny because as consequence now I have a Passive-Aggressive (bipolar) Spell and everybody under the spell effects get crazy and run away from the scene.

 

Sounds funny, perhaps you could try some sort of mesmerize spell as a base instead. Everyone nearby transfixed in place staring at the scene, now that's certain to find some fans. ^^


On a different note, while using your crippled Furniture marker sex works pretty well, I'm still having issues with Sexlab starting scenes with invisible furniture in inappropriate places, it might be limited to just invisible wall animations, but that might also just be coincidence due to the limited sample size.

[Nymra]

1 hour ago, Talesien said:

Sounds funny, perhaps you could try some sort of mesmerize spell as a base instead. Everyone nearby transfixed in place staring at the scene, now that's certain to find some fans. ^^

 

this has the potential of messing up alot of mods that try to control actors that are not part of the sex.

(like Specator Crowds and also Naked Defeat and probably Deviously Helpess)

 

[OsmelMC]

31 minutes ago, Nymra said:

 

this has the potential of messing up alot of mods that try to control actors that are not part of the sex.

(like Specator Crowds and also Naked Defeat and probably Deviously Helpess)

 

In theory but the radio can be adjusted so is not big deal and the NPC's will run just for few seconds so even is possible take it like they are calling the others.

 

I'm not sure if the spell is the best choice but definitely will be interesting to see.

Edited March 30, 2022 by OsmelMC

[OsmelMC]

@Nymra

Enable the "Advanced Furniture System" in the "Furniture and Bed" page. When is enabled the furniture configuration take priority over the bed configuration (at least for the test)

 

 

 

I need the some "Papyrus.0.log" to check some logs related with this LE version before be able to release it.

 

By the way the spell isn't ready because the aggressive part seems to trigger combat events and that some times cause the end of the scene. But at least you can see what I'm talking about. I can use the same circle to apply some Package instead of the Fear Spell to made them keep the distance so keep it in mind.

SexLab Utility Plus LE (2022-03-30) BETA.7z

Edited April 2, 2022 by OsmelMC

[Naps-On-Dirt]

I uninstalled the SL Adventures tweak and baited some men and was raped by two, one went after the other.  I'll go try to get a larger group somewhere and see if that works too, but I think the tweak is what broke multiples.

[OsmelMC]

1 hour ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

I uninstalled the SL Adventures tweak and baited some men and was raped by two, one went after the other.  I'll go try to get a larger group somewhere and see if that works too, but I think the tweak is what broke multiples.

Sadly I not longer using the mod so i can't test it myself.

 

I will check the scripts but some one else have to do the test!

[Gudulba]

I have upgraded from SexLab Utility Plus v20220211.7z to the latest SexLab Utility Plus v20220319.7z. After the upgrade, I clicked on "Reset SexLab threads" (or something similar).

 

Now when entering Solitude, I get a popup message along the the line "Alicia Painslut not installed. Sexlab has to be activated first". I am confused now. I never have seen this message before (Alicia Painslut is indeed installed).

I now have reverted back to SexLab Utility Plus v20220211.7z with the corresponding save and I get no such message anymore. What could that be??

 

Edited March 31, 2022 by Gudulba

[OsmelMC]

45 minutes ago, Gudulba said:

I have upgraded from SexLab Utility Plus v20220211.7z to the latest SexLab Utility Plus v20220319.7z. After the upgrade, I clicked on "Reset SexLab threads" (or something similar).

 

Now when entering Solitude, I get a popup message along the the line "Alicia Painslut not installed. Sexlab has to be activated first". I am confused now. I never have seen this message before (Alicia Painslut is indeed installed).

I now have reverted back to SexLab Utility Plus v20220211.7z with the corresponding save and I get no such message anymore. What could that be??

 

In first place my BETA versions are for test purpose only and this one is for LE.

 

For this test the "Clean System" is not required.

 

In your case probably the SexLab doesn't end with the installation after use the "Clean System" option. That take some time and I recommend you to enter Solitude before use the Clean System again, but like I said, is not required.

 

If you try the BETA, remember to send me the Papyrus.0.log and don't forget to install the "Papyrus Extender" of PowerOfThree's because is required for the new furniture system that by the way have to be enabled on the "Furniture and Bed" page of the SexLab MCM.

[Naps-On-Dirt]

14 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

Sadly I not longer using the mod so i can't test it myself.

 

I will check the scripts but some one else have to do the test!

I'd be glad to test it.  

 

As an additional test without the tweak, I walked down Ivarstead's road naked, got followed by Narfi and a male farm slave (from Hydra Slavegirls) and raped in front of the grain mill stone by those two, then four to five passers-by joined in after for a train run.  It was glorious.  Thats probably my favorite thing about SL Adventures' Proximity Rape, once the instigating attackers are finished you might not be done, depending on the arousal of nearby onlookers.

[PippinTom]

Greetings @OsmelMC

 

It seems like there is a special spot in Solitude, near Radiant Raiment, that acts weird.

Every animation that starts there automatically (no matter if initiated by ABMM, SLEN, or TDF Pros) is sunken.

It's not an animation alignment issue - changing it to any other nor resetting it does not help. Number of actors also are not a factors here, however it looks funny when cowgirls animation plays,  sometimes tip of the "iceberg" can be seen above surface (but not always).

 

100% repro assuming that SLU will choose that spot as hidden place.

 

Spoiler

 

...so having custom piece of solid floor as backup for SL scenes does not sound as such a weird idea, even in cities.

[OsmelMC]

3 hours ago, PippinTom said:

Greetings @OsmelMC

 

It seems like there is a special spot in Solitude, near Radiant Raiment, that acts weird.

Every animation that starts there automatically (no matter if initiated by ABMM, SLEN, or TDF Pros) is sunken.

It's not an animation alignment issue - changing it to any other nor resetting it does not help. Number of actors also are not a factors here, however it looks funny when cowgirls animation plays,  sometimes tip of the "iceberg" can be seen above surface (but not always).

 

100% repro assuming that SLU will choose that spot as hidden place.

 

  Hide contents

 

...so having custom piece of solid floor as backup for SL scenes does not sound as such a weird idea, even in cities.

 

Must be a hidden marker underground. I usually just recommend to avoid them, but now I can fix them on the crippled furnitureSexMarker.esp if someone send me the FormID. By the way the FormID is on the logs as the CenterRef of the scene.

[leakim]

On 2/16/2022 at 12:52 PM, Derangers said:

I also had a problem after the last update with SLSO, that now I completely ignore the settings for example:

• Require max of X orgasms animation ends when the time comes to the last stage, even if there was no orgasm
• the Aggressor (NPC) function can change the animation at the last stage of the animation does not change.

 

Can I bring attention to this issue again?

 

I see that we've now had a couple of updates since then but this behaviour is still broken for me, now on version v20220319.

 

Can anyone here confirm whether or not this behaviour is working for them on the latest version (v20220319), because it is really annoying as it is a complete game breaker, making me unable to upgrade.

 

The last version where this behaviour worked for me was on version v20211127, which isn't even available for download anymore.

 

I've tried triggering these aggressive scenes through either Naked Defeat or SexLab Defeat, but the result is always the same. After the last stage is reached the animation ends.

If I keep all my other mods as is, and simply downgrade to v20211127, then start a new game to test it, this behaviour works properly.

 

I am aware that the last version of SLSO (which was updated after 20220319, on March 22) has this for changelog:
 * fixed min/max required orgasms sometimes not working correctly

Perhaps this is part of an overwritten file in SLU+?

 

EDIT:

 => Looking at the source code for `sslThreadController.psc` from SLU+ (latest) and SLSO (1.7.7 and 1.7.8), I can certainly see that this is the case. So I guess I will need to wait for the next update(?). If the fix actually works that is. Feel like I've seen that changelog item on the SLSO support thread before. ^_^

 

As always, thanks for you work!

Edited April 3, 2022 by leakim

[Derangers]

1 hour ago, leakim said:

 

Can I bring attention to this issue again?

 

I see that we've now had a couple of updates since then but this behaviour is still broken for me, now on version v20220319.

 

Can anyone here confirm whether or not this behaviour is working for them on the latest version (v20220319), because it is really annoying as it is a complete game breaker, making me unable to upgrade.

 

The last version where this behaviour worked for me was on version v20211127, which isn't even available for download anymore.

 

I've tried triggering these aggressive scenes through either Naked Defeat or SexLab Defeat, but the result is always the same. After the last stage is reached the animation ends.

If I keep all my other mods as is, and simply downgrade to v20211127, then start a new game to test it, this behaviour works properly.

 

I am aware that the last version of SLSO (which was updated after 20220319, on March 22) has this for changelog:
 * fixed min/max required orgasms sometimes not working correctly

Perhaps this is part of an overwritten file in SLU+?

 

EDIT:

 => Looking at the source code for `sslThreadController.psc` from SLU+ (latest) and SLSO (1.7.7 and 1.7.8), I can certainly see that this is the case. So I guess I will need to wait for the next update(?). If the fix actually works that is. Feel like I've seen that changelog item on the SLSO support thread before. ^_^

 

As always, thanks for you work!

I still have this problem, I found a temporary solution to this problem here.

But in order for it to work, I had to replace the SexLab Utility Plus files with SexLab Separate Orgasm. And then change sslActorAlias.

Edited April 3, 2022 by Derangers

[Swe-DivX]

Request

 

StartSex(sexActors, anims, victim=aVictim, allowBed=bAllowbed, hook="Scene")

Force the actor to use bed in quest. If the actor is sleeping, or actor is sitting use chair

allowBed=bAllowbed to

ex
allowBed=ForceBed
allowBed=ForceChair
allowBed=DenyBed, AllowChair

allowBed=DenyBed, AllowFurniture
allowBed=DenyBed, ForceFurniture. If no furniture found use furniture animation.
allowBed=AllowBed,DenyFurniture. Will use the chair or table in the room.
allowBed=DenyBed, DenyChair, AllowFurniture. Will use furniture but not bed or chair.

or
 

StartSex(sexActors, anims, victim=aVictim, allowBed=bAllowbed, hook="Scene", furniture=tags)

 

[OsmelMC]

1 hour ago, Swe-DivX said:

Request

 

StartSex(sexActors, anims, victim=aVictim, allowBed=bAllowbed, hook="Scene")

Force the actor to use bed in quest. If the actor is sleeping, or actor is sitting use chair

allowBed=bAllowbed to

ex
allowBed=ForceBed
allowBed=ForceChair
allowBed=DenyBed, AllowChair

allowBed=DenyBed, AllowFurniture
allowBed=DenyBed, ForceFurniture. If no furniture found use furniture animation.
allowBed=AllowBed,DenyFurniture. Will use the chair or table in the room.
allowBed=DenyBed, DenyChair, AllowFurniture. Will use furniture but not bed or chair.

or
 

StartSex(sexActors, anims, victim=aVictim, allowBed=bAllowbed, hook="Scene", furniture=tags)

 

Is done already at least when the furniture system is enabled, and can be turned off by setting the AllowBed parameter as false or disabling the use of bed's in the configuration.

 

I can't edit or add parameters to the StartSex function because cause compatibly issues, for that reason is also possible to turn off or force the furniture system on the scene by the scripts but not if you are using the StartSex function. Still the Furnitures are ignored if you set the list of animations (anims) excluding the "Furniture" tag. Remember that SexLab Framework and my SLU+ try to keep the animations selected by the author of the scene, that means that you can easily keep the furnitures excluded from the scene with just set the animation list excluding the "Furniture" tag or any of the specific Tags for furnitures like "Chair, Beach, Throne, Table, ..." 

 

By the way, the "SexLab Defeat" disable the use of bed's on his rape scenes. Is really annoying try to rape somebody when is sleeping and end having sex in the floor instead of the bed.

[leakim]

10 hours ago, Derangers said:

I still have this problem, I found a temporary solution to this problem here.

But in order for it to work, I had to replace the SexLab Utility Plus files with SexLab Separate Orgasm. And then change sslActorAlias.

 

At least I am not going crazy.

 

I can imagine doing something like that could cause all sorts of other issues, though.

 

When you say you "change sslActorAlias". What do you mean by that? That you recompile it yourself?

[PippinTom]

15 hours ago, leakim said:

I've tried triggering these aggressive scenes through either Naked Defeat or SexLab Defeat, but the result is always the same. After the last stage is reached the animation ends.

 

Someone already posted simple (possible) workaround for scene unstoppable flow issue manifesting itself in SLSO limitations/requirements for number of orgasms (even if it is "1") being ignored, (and not only SLSO). It worked for me at least.

So to the point: go to SL MCM --> Timers & Stripping, and reset all "length" values to their defaults, one by one, for normal, foreplay and aggressive scenes.

 

btw:

Issues with unattended scene flow happened to me couple of days back, after "clean system" procedure, after making some changes to other mods in my list and cosmetically changing LO. However weird that sounds, this simple timers reset helped.

Edited April 4, 2022 by PippinTom

[Derangers]

5 hours ago, leakim said:

 

At least I am not going crazy.

 

I can imagine doing something like that could cause all sorts of other issues, though.

 

When you say you "change sslActorAlias". What do you mean by that? That you recompile it yourself?

I'm adding a sign to this line

 ;if !NoOrgasm && SeparateOrgasms && Strength >= 100 && Stage <= StageCount && (RealTime[0] - LastOrgasm) > (((IsMale as int) + (IsCreature as int) + 1) * 10.0)

 

I personally did not have any problems with running animations after that.

[OsmelMC]

2 hours ago, Derangers said:

I'm adding a sign to this line

 ;if !NoOrgasm && SeparateOrgasms && Strength >= 100 && Stage <= StageCount && (RealTime[0] - LastOrgasm) > (((IsMale as int) + (IsCreature as int) + 1) * 10.0)

 

I personally did not have any problems with running animations after that.

 

I will go with this solution for now. My real objective there was make all the actors orgasm at the same time at the end of the animation and is working but apparently interfere with the SLSO.

 

By the way the change of the animation is more related with a fix in the GoToStage function. I will do some adjustments to ignore the fix on the last stage and that should solve it.

Edited April 4, 2022 by OsmelMC

[Xiaron]

4 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

 

I will go with this solution for now. My real objective there was make all the actors orgasm at the same time at the end of the animation and is working but apparently interfere with the SLSO.

 

By the way the change of the animation is more related with a fix in the GoToStage function. I will do some adjustments to ignore the fix on the last stage and that should solve it.

 

22 hours ago, Derangers said:

I still have this problem, I found a temporary solution to this problem here.

But in order for it to work, I had to replace the SexLab Utility Plus files with SexLab Separate Orgasm. And then change sslActorAlias.

There's a chunk of code that was changed with the latest SLSO code that isn't in SL Utility+ yet, that's supposed to hopefully fix the aggressor orgasm issue. Unfortunately while overwriting SL Utility+ with SLSO will make SLSO work it breaks SL Utility+ instead. So for now you have to pick which one you want working fully until @OsmelMC gets a chance to correct that.