SkyrimLL/DeepBlueFrog mods conversion to SSE

[zarantha]

4 hours ago, Papersword said:

SLIF required for Node Management in Parasites? I notice with the new update it mentions I don't have NIOverride. Or is there some seperate file to pick up that recognizes SKEE as NIO?

 

Have you got Hormones? Parasites can hook into Hormones in the latest releases, which has better SLIF and bodymorph management. I'm unclear if bodymorph is working separately from SLIF. I have all three, and don't see NIO warnings.

 

What was happening when you got the warning? Just looking in the MCM, or was there an event?

[w234aew]

41 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

Have you got Hormones? Parasites can hook into Hormones in the latest releases, which has better SLIF and bodymorph management. I'm unclear if bodymorph is working separately from SLIF. I have all three, and don't see NIO warnings.

 

What was happening when you got the warning? Just looking in the MCM, or was there an event?

 

The menu options are all grouped together, which kind of makes it confusing if you don't delve into the script that does the scaling to figure out what goes where. I'll leave an explanation here.

 

The "Bodymorphs" selector is a "specifier" for both SLIF and NiO.

 

If it's not selected, then whatever scaling technique hormones is using, will be used for node scaling.

 

If Bodymorphs are selected, and SLIF isn't installed, the mod will directly apply morphs through NetImmerseOverride (it should really be titled "NiO Bodymorphs").

 

It SHOULD be set up such that, if SLIF is installed and bodymorphs are selected, the mod applies the same bodymorphs via SLIF as a compatibility layer.

 

I'm without PC for a few days, so I can't make edits/changes rn. Looking at it with more experience now than when I originally helped write it, I think the SLIF path might be cut off due to some missing conditional checks. I'll try to fix it when I'm back with PC.

Edited August 7, 2021 by w234aew

[Papersword]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

 

Have you got Hormones? Parasites can hook into Hormones in the latest releases, which has better SLIF and bodymorph management. I'm unclear if bodymorph is working separately from SLIF. I have all three, and don't see NIO warnings.

 

What was happening when you got the warning? Just looking in the MCM, or was there an event?

 

Oh, no warning. Just under the debug section it shows SLIF and NIOverride as 0. I remember trawling the thread a few times looking for native SKEE compatibility for Parasites and mostly coming up blank. I tried using SLIF a long time ago and had issues with it fighting other mods. I'm not using Hormones either. Does Hormones SE run without SLIF? It's possible I'd install it just to have Parasites use BodyMorphs.

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, Papersword said:

 

Oh, no warning. Just under the debug section it shows SLIF and NIOverride as 0. I remember trawling the thread a few times looking for native SKEE compatibility for Parasites and mostly coming up blank. I tried using SLIF a long time ago and had issues with it fighting other mods. I'm not using Hormones either. Does Hormones SE run without SLIF? It's possible I'd install it just to have Parasites use BodyMorphs.

 

Take a look at w234aew's response above yours. It should work without hormones, but I know it's been said that the more mature code is in hormones, so that's why the tie in to that mod- to allow the better code to take precedence. If you can't get parasites to work, hormones should work without SLIF.

 

The scripts should all check for skee vs nio now - that was added in sometime back. I don't edit the scripts for that anymore since I have seen the check in several scripts.

 

You can make a change in the skee64.ini which should allow skee to do the same thing SLIF does in theory. This should in theory also prevent SLIF from fighting other mods, since skee should add in SLIF's values along with any mod not using SLIF and calculate out what needs to be set. At least, I've not seen obvious issues between SLIF and SGO4 (which doesn't use SLIF) with these settings - there's no bouncing between breast/belly sizes that I would expect if they're fighting. I've put these in a new file so the custom settings don't get overwritten when racemenu updates.
 

Spoiler

\SKSE\Plugins\skee64.ini

or

\SKSE\Plugins\skee64_custom.ini (if you don't have this, you need to create it for the settings to be persistent through upgrades)

 

[General]
; Determines scaling mode
; 0 - Multiplicative
; 1 - Averaged
; 2 - Additive
; 3 - Maximum
iScaleMode=3

; Determines key merging method (when there are two body morph keys for the same morph)
; 0 - Additive
; 1 - Averaged
; 2 - Maximum
iBodyMorphMode=2

 

[Vuulgar]

In spite of using SD Enhanced often with no issue, lately I am getting nothing but a black screen when trying to enter the world. I can go back to an older playthrough with SD on it and the newest versions load and work fine but I can not make a new game with SD on it. Very confusing.  I use MO2 and have a base game set up to start new playthroughs so my mod list is basically the same foundation every new game I start. Has anyone else experienced this and figured out why? NetScriptFramework doesnt register it as a crash so I get no info there. 

Just when I start to think I am getting better at this modding thing....?

 

Thanks.

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, Vuulgar said:

In spite of using SD Enhanced often with no issue, lately I am getting nothing but a black screen when trying to enter the world. I can go back to an older playthrough with SD on it and the newest versions load and work fine but I can not make a new game with SD on it. Very confusing.  I use MO2 and have a base game set up to start new playthroughs so my mod list is basically the same foundation every new game I start. Has anyone else experienced this and figured out why? NetScriptFramework doesnt register it as a crash so I get no info there. 

Just when I start to think I am getting better at this modding thing....?

 

Thanks.

 

If you are reusing a save before leaving the LAL cell, try a true new game where you click New on the main menu. Maybe something went weird upgrading between the save you have set up before starting and the new version. While having a save setup and ready to go for new games is convenient, I've seen where it's not recommended a few times just because of issues that creep in as mods are upgraded.

 

Or try removing SD, saving, then clean the save with fallrim tools, load the game, save again, then add the new SD+.

 

You should also try testing with just SD and it's requirements rather than everything, just to make sure there's no issue with interactions with other mods.

[Vuulgar]

2 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

If you are reusing a save before leaving the LAL cell, try a true new game where you click New on the main menu. Maybe something went weird upgrading between the save you have set up before starting and the new version. While having a save setup and ready to go for new games is convenient, I've seen where it's not recommended a few times just because of issues that creep in as mods are upgraded.

 

Or try removing SD, saving, then clean the save with fallrim tools, load the game, save again, then add the new SD+.

 

You should also try testing with just SD and it's requirements rather than everything, just to make sure there's no issue with interactions with other mods.

The old save even with upgrade works fine, thats the part I dont get. I have made maybe 5 totally fresh games with Alternate Start or Alternate Perspective and have tried going back to older versions of SD. I will start one with just requirents and see what happens, thanks for suggestions and the conversions.

 

Edit- Alright, I started a game with my foundation (textures and locations mostly) and the minimum for SD and the game loaded. I started adding the mods I have been trying to use a few at a time until I had them all eventually loaded and every time the game started. LOL I give up! I will just try and remember to load SD first on the games I want to use it, thanks again for the idea, whatever works works.

Edited August 7, 2021 by Vuulgar

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, Vuulgar said:

The old save even with upgrade works fine, thats the part I dont get. I have made maybe 5 totally fresh games with Alternate Start or Alternate Perspective and have tried going back to older versions of SD. I will start one with just requirents and see what happens, thanks for suggestions and the conversions.

 

Edit- Alright, I started a game with my foundation (textures and locations mostly) and the minimum for SD and the game loaded. I started adding the mods I have been trying to use a few at a time until I had them all eventually loaded and every time the game started. LOL I give up! I will just try and remember to load SD first on the games I want to use it, thanks again for the idea, whatever works works.

 

Skyrim being Skyrim. I hate that lol.

 

If you've got a lot of mods, I'd recommend starting to use a stepped start up for truly new games when/if you do it again. Load up part of your mods, get them set up, then load more mods and set them up until all mcms are configured. It's the only way i've been able to avoid some weirdness in mods that otherwise work together. I set up different profiles in MO2 with increasing mods enabled and just switch between profiles until everything is setup. Vortex may be able to do the same thing.

[Vuulgar]

59 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

Skyrim being Skyrim. I hate that lol.

 

If you've got a lot of mods, I'd recommend starting to use a stepped start up for truly new games when/if you do it again. Load up part of your mods, get them set up, then load more mods and set them up until all mcms are configured. It's the only way i've been able to avoid some weirdness in mods that otherwise work together. I set up different profiles in MO2 with increasing mods enabled and just switch between profiles until everything is setup. Vortex may be able to do the same thing.

 

Yeah, thats what I do, just normally I save the more complex Sexlab mods until last...well, I always use the same base as it seems really stable and then apply SL mods and a few character enhancers like armor or weapons.

I went back to the save that wouldnt load, unchecked all the SL mods then started SD with its requirements then added the rest of the SL mods I had installed before and everything worked as it should. Problem solved although I am curious why....I am not curious enough to mess with it. ?

[Dicktaco 34]

well im at a loss. Chaurus worm keeps getting rejected instantly even with the newest version. not sure what could be causing it. Anyone had a simmilar issue and had it solved?

[DeepBlueFrog]

37 minutes ago, Dicktaco 34 said:

well im at a loss. Chaurus worm keeps getting rejected instantly even with the newest version. not sure what could be causing it. Anyone had a simmilar issue and had it solved?

 

Did you try changing the scale of Parasite events frequency in the menu?

[Dicktaco 34]

8 hours ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

 

Did you try changing the scale of Parasite events frequency in the menu?

putting flare delay to 0 worked thank you. not sure whatelse it disables but works for now

[DeepBlueFrog]

4 hours ago, Dicktaco 34 said:

putting flare delay to 0 worked thank you. not sure whatelse it disables but works for now

 

That's how it is meant to work:

 

0 disables it.

Lower than 1 makes it go faster.

Greater than 1 makes it go slower.

[DJH0ney]

This is going to sound really dumb, but is Family Ties still a hard requirement since it has been changed to white text in the list?

[DeepBlueFrog]

1 hour ago, DJH0ney said:

This is going to sound really dumb, but is Family Ties still a hard requirement since it has been changed to white text in the list?

 

I am a little confused about this question.

 

Family ties has never been a hard requirement to anything. 

[Omnishade]

The chaurus queen transformation is an interesting concept but it would be very nice if there were BHUNP or UUNP bodyslides, since people are very subjective when it comes to bodyshapes and the textures aren't compatible with UNP face textures.

[phily101]

Hi there I haven't been able to get the bimbo tattoos to work on slavetats using the SSE version, my order is slavetats bridge 1a then 1b, then hormones then aegis's hotfix, can someone advise me on how to get it working?

 

[weisuojiushiwd]

I am working on Sexlab Hormones translation.And I think I found a name mistake.The Butt swell in MCM was named as Butt swell min.

Edited August 9, 2021 by weisuojiushiwd

[mikesolo1975]

i use cbbe 3bbb body.

i use too cbbe futanari addon.

in sexlab hormones i need the sos unp addon ?

thanks

[zarantha]

7 hours ago, mikesolo1975 said:

i use cbbe 3bbb body.

i use too cbbe futanari addon.

in sexlab hormones i need the sos unp addon ?

thanks

 

Are you using this futanari addon?

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/11344-sos-addon-futanari-cbbe-sse/

 

If so, I modified the addon to point to the CBBE meshes. Worked out pretty well last time I had the curse. Can't rename the esp or the transgender stuff in hormones won't work right, so don't let the name fool you. Install this after hormones as a separate mod overwriting the hormones plugin.

SOS - Hormones UNP Addon [Edited to use CBBE Futanari].7z

 

@DeepBlueFrog Maybe pin this to the 1st post too?

[phily101]

12 hours ago, phily101 said:

Hi there I haven't been able to get the bimbo tattoos to work on slavetats using the SSE version, my order is slavetats bridge 1a then 1b, then hormones then aegis's hotfix, can someone advise me on how to get it working?

 

to clarify in slavetats the tatoo names are there but not selectable under the bimbo category, are there any files that i am missing because i only downloaded stuff from the sse conversion area and not from the LE version other than slavetats bridge 1a

[HornyLea]

Found a first-person-only issue with the spriggan gauntlet. all other vanilla/modded gauntlets work normally. chaurus queen works normal too. only the spriggan gauntlet bugs

 

The hand streches from the pinky tip-joint to the static dot. saveload/restart/rebuild in bodyslide/reinstall parasite, bodyslide, xp32 didn't help

 

any idea what might cause it?

[mikesolo1975]

8 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Are you using this futanari addon?

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/11344-sos-addon-futanari-cbbe-sse/

 

If so, I modified the addon to point to the CBBE meshes. Worked out pretty well last time I had the curse. Can't rename the esp or the transgender stuff in hormones won't work right, so don't let the name fool you. Install this after hormones as a separate mod overwriting the hormones plugin.

SOS - Hormones UNP Addon [Edited to use CBBE Futanari].7z 2.17 kB · 6 downloads

 

@DeepBlueFrog Maybe pin this to the 1st post too?

yes i using.

ok i go do that.

thanks for your help and time.

you are amazing my friend.?

[Papersword]

On 8/7/2021 at 9:58 AM, zarantha said:

 

Take a look at w234aew's response above yours. It should work without hormones, but I know it's been said that the more mature code is in hormones, so that's why the tie in to that mod- to allow the better code to take precedence. If you can't get parasites to work, hormones should work without SLIF.

 

The scripts should all check for skee vs nio now - that was added in sometime back. I don't edit the scripts for that anymore since I have seen the check in several scripts.

 

You can make a change in the skee64.ini which should allow skee to do the same thing SLIF does in theory. This should in theory also prevent SLIF from fighting other mods, since skee should add in SLIF's values along with any mod not using SLIF and calculate out what needs to be set. At least, I've not seen obvious issues between SLIF and SGO4 (which doesn't use SLIF) with these settings - there's no bouncing between breast/belly sizes that I would expect if they're fighting. I've put these in a new file so the custom settings don't get overwritten when racemenu updates.
 

  Reveal hidden contents

\SKSE\Plugins\skee64.ini

or

\SKSE\Plugins\skee64_custom.ini (if you don't have this, you need to create it for the settings to be persistent through upgrades)

 

[General]
; Determines scaling mode
; 0 - Multiplicative
; 1 - Averaged
; 2 - Additive
; 3 - Maximum
iScaleMode=3

; Determines key merging method (when there are two body morph keys for the same morph)
; 0 - Additive
; 1 - Averaged
; 2 - Maximum
iBodyMorphMode=2

 

So I'm still somewhat confused. Parasites SE should have working body morphing with only SKSE? Without Hormones or SLIF? If that's the case I might have to refresh the scripts by cleaning the save. If it's meant to register SKSE as NIO would that show up then under Debug in the MCM menu? 

[Elrond_Hubbard]

Having a black face issue with Senna with the most recent version. I noticed in the previous version there was a "textures" pack (v 1.2 per my mod organizer) that appears to no longer apply to the new version but I didn't see textures anywhere in the most recent file conversion upload.

 

EDIT:

Nevermind. I forgot to run Senna through face gen export by launching CreationKit through MO2. All fixed.

Edited August 10, 2021 by Elrond_Hubbard