guide Skyrim SE for Beginners - V 3.2.6 (Outdated)

[Tiemphyx]

14 hours ago, maltodaxtrin said:

 

Additional note but in my post I said Immersive Armors but I was really talking about Simply Realistic Armors, but I think we both figured that out

Sorry, @maltodaxtrin , you wrote it twice and I got confused.  No offense

[akadeadpool]

So I'm thinking about the hassle of making Simply Realistic Armors work, why not use vanilla armors look.

 

I find aMidianBorn Book of Silence SE and RUSTIC ARMOR and WEAPONS SE cover all vanilla armors except for Imperial's which has lots of mod replace it. Since those mods only change texture, you can expect them to work with any bodyslide preset.

[wollboi]

@akadeadpool Yeah, but Simply Realistic looks way better.

 

Honestly, instead of jumping through all the hoops I'm just using Aylis's bodyslide files and waiting for somebody to make a patch for Simply Realistic Armor. I feel like it'll happen sooner or later.

 

Barely related, but I thought this was funny:

Spoiler

 

Edited July 30, 2021 by wollboi

[jaeos]

On 7/29/2021 at 12:49 AM, neneXgod said:

Hello everyone. I found this RM preset in this ( Korean? ) website : 야짤)하이폴리 자캐 레이나 프리셋 (바슬포함) - 툴리우스 채널 (arca.live) . The preset loaded with no problem. But there is a missing file called "Triangle.dds" ( That will cause purple/missing texture ) . The author also provided it in that post, so can I ask how to install the Triangle.dds file with MO2?.

you install it like any other mod. just make sure you name it exactly the same as the original mod I MEAN IT... EXACTLY. then just tell mo2 to merge it

IF it is a zip file anyway. if it's not, 7zip it into a zip file then install it with mo2. Or, go looking for where in the tree the missing dds file is suppsed to be and paste it inside the mod folder using file explorer.

Edited July 30, 2021 by jaeos

[Tiemphyx]

8 hours ago, akadeadpool said:

So I'm thinking about the hassle of making Simply Realistic Armors work, why not use vanilla armors look.

 

I find aMidianBorn Book of Silence SE and RUSTIC ARMOR and WEAPONS SE cover all vanilla armors except for Imperial's which has lots of mod replace it. Since those mods only change texture, you can expect them to work with any bodyslide preset.

First, thank you very much for bringing up the shortcut fix for SRA, I'm absolutely sure it'll help a lot of people following this build. 

 

As I look at it, it's not a big deal to recover the SRA meshes, but I realize there's plenty of room to disagree (about anything) and really, that's what modding's all about!

 

So, just for 2cents worth, I have to say that one of the smaller among many reasons I came to the Aylis build was that it managed to abandon the aMidian/Rustic mold in favor of (potentially) some newer kickass armors and, in my personal opinion, SRA delivers.  aMidian and RAW are great.  They're mature mods with few problems.  It's just that they've been around long enough for some to say btdt.  Your point's well taken though and they might be better suited to a beginner frame - I guess that's up to Aylis.

 

Unlike nexus, I just feel like it's better to keep raising the bar than to lower it. 

 

(Just musing here re Nexus) but where will new modders come from when everything comes down to picking which button to click?

 

Thanks to all -

 

[anyone want to volunteer to help build BS files for SRA?]

Edited July 31, 2021 by Temphyx

[neneXgod]

6 hours ago, jaeos said:

you install it like any other mod. just make sure you name it exactly the same as the original mod I MEAN IT... EXACTLY. then just tell mo2 to merge it

IF it is a zip file anyway. if it's not, 7zip it into a zip file then install it with mo2. Or, go looking for where in the tree the missing dds file is suppsed to be and paste it inside the mod folder using file explorer.

Thanks you. I will try that.

[noctred]

Out of curiosity - why doesn't this list use any of kryptopyr's mods? WACCF, CACO, CCOR, and so forth? They've always been a mainstay for me in every list I've built so I thought it was interesting that they're completely absent here. Do they not play well with other mods in this list or does the list author simply dislike the changes they make?

[jaeos]

9 hours ago, noctred said:

Out of curiosity - why doesn't this list use any of kryptopyr's mods? WACCF, CACO, CCOR, and so forth? They've always been a mainstay for me in every list I've built so I thought it was interesting that they're completely absent here. Do they not play well with other mods in this list or does the list author simply dislike the changes they make?

We use several mods by Kryptopyr, If they are not included they have issues with them, it could be that the WAY the changes are made are inconsistent with the mod list, or there may have been a bug that cropped up during testing. Or, they just have not been tested in part with the mod list. And it honestly could be a texture thing, the textures in mod a don't play well with the clutter in mod E. Since i don't remember them even being talked about, they may have been overlooked, Hence why we promote mods for consideration to Aylis.

Just glancing through the thread for CCOR compatibility seems several people are having issues getting xp when they craft or smelt ores, and some are getting CTD when crafting, that alone could be enough to drop consideration since this list is for as stable a game as possible.  with 600ish mods.

[Aylis]

Small update:

I'm around but typing is still very painful. So please be patient with me...

[akadeadpool]

I am using CACO and CCOR now. They work ok but to do so you have to take out some of the mods in this modlist because they overlap in functions. In other words, the override section will need an overhaul.

 

There is also the issue with patches. There is kryptopyr's Automated Patches but you still need to rerun all of the patches in this modlist to be sure. Also use LOOT to see if you lack any patches.

 

Another factor is that there are many mods out there that can replace CACO and CCOR although you will need multiple mods to do so.

[akadeadpool]

3 hours ago, user037951 said:

This might sound really stupid, but whenever I download or change something related to animations I remove the whole mod "FNIS Override", and then rerun FNIS.

Same thing for Nemesis, but what I've noted is when i don't delete the FNIS Override or Nemesis Override the settings in the .exes are saved. Am i not supposed to delete FNIS and Nemesis Override and just rerun the programs?

I think you need to delete Override folder. I remember if you don't do so, FNIS or Nemesis throw error saying there's data in those folder and prevent you from re-running.

 

It seems windows shadow mod will mess up all vanilla player houses mod like Anna Proudspire Manor in this modlist. By messing up I mean lots of light flickering.

Edited August 1, 2021 by akadeadpool

[trgdolors]

Here are a couple interesting new mods, both released today.

 

1) True Directional Movement - Modernized Third Person Gameplay:

 

This is a multi faceted movement/combat mod. It does a lot of things. True 360 degree movement, better swimming, target lock, head tracking, boss health bars, better camera support with horse riding... It is not compatible with TK Dodge or a couple other things on this guide. But an impressive achievement. The mod page is really well done with animated GIFs by a promising new author. Worth a look. It has 458 comments already just today!

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/51614

 

2) MCM Helper:

 

This second mod is like a framework to allow saving and reusing MCM settings for multiple play-throughs. Mod authors will need to re-write their MCM's to be compatible, so we will see if it takes off, but it comes with support for remembering SkyUI settings already. Supposedly patches can be made for abandoned mods. It takes no load order slot.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/53000?tab=posts&BH=2

[wollboi]

I saw True Directional Movement on Reddit today and it looks interesting. Wondering how it would handle indoor corridors though.

 

MCM Helper looks like a godsend.

[erapx]

HELP! I followed the guide and I was onto modding until the FAIR SKIN COMPLEXION modding part and tested the gameplay. But it kept crashing and gets me back

to desktop mode. What should I do?

[akadeadpool]

Regarding MCM Helper, I think people just forgot about FISS. FISS was supposed to to the same, i.e creating a save file system for MCM.

 

At a glance, I see that MCM Helper offer easier coding experiences but until new mods use it or old mod got support with this mod, I won't be too excited.

[jaeos]

6 hours ago, erapx said:

HELP! I followed the guide and I was onto modding until the FAIR SKIN COMPLEXION modding part and tested the gameplay. But it kept crashing and gets me back

to desktop mode. What should I do?

you mean this part?

Spoiler

Where exactly did you stop, are there ANY warnings in MO2? like this

Spoiler

(I turned off my 3bbb to get the warning) I disabled all of my mods back to that point and didn't have a warning. Disable all of the NPC section mods you already have installed and see if you still CTD. Keep backing up until you no longer CTD. (you can shut off 5 at a time to make it faster) let us know which mod is causing the crash, we may have an older version in our archives that may work better.

WHEN it crashes is also important. Does it crash before the logo, or after, does it crash at the menu when you hit new, or does it start to load and crash? If it will not even get to the logo you have a missing master and should have a warning about it in mo2. The rest of the crashes are related to things like animation count or missing meshes, (ie crash at menu into game is one of those two, since you have not installed any animations yet, you have a missing mesh somewhere.

Edited August 2, 2021 by jaeos

[SirCarcass]

First I want to say how grateful I am for this thread.  The amount of work put into the first page and the helpful responses throughout this thread are incredible.  I never would have even attempted to integrate this many mods together without it.

 

I followed the instructions as close as I could and came out with a modded game that seems to be working almost flawlessly.  I just have 2 issues that no amount of googling, searching, or messing with plugins seems to be able to solve.  The first is the red box around flames that I've seen others report.  Supposedly it was fixed by using the Red Glow Eliminator patch, but that hasn't fixed it for me.  Though annoying, I can ignore it for the most part.

 

The other, more disappointing, issue I'm having is with SexLab.  As far as I can tell, everything is working as expected except for one specific thing: the animations themselves.  I'm having the issue where the characters just stand next to/inside one another.  Everything else around the whole process seems to work.  They move to the location, undress, facial expressions change, sounds play, particle effects happen, the stages advance, they finish, get dressed, and move freely again.  It's just that during all of that, they're standing around, and maybe doing an idle animation.  I didn't see any errors in the console.  The animations are enabled and registered.  I can see it pick an appropriate animation, it just doesn't actually seem to play.

 

I followed the FNIS/Nemesis instructions, The other animations added seem to work fine (TK dodge, jump, the gender specific animations, conditional idles, etc).  It's just the sex lab animations.  I've cleaned, registered, and rebuilt the animations but no change.  The only thing I haven't done is redo the FNIS/Nemesis stuff, but I'd think since the other animations are working, the issue isn't there.

 

The only questionable things I can find are in the SexLab MCM System Requirements the FNIS SexLab Framework Idles are ? (and the Creature Idles but I didn't install that framework).  I also wasn't sure when following the instructions if I was supposed to leave FNIS disabled after creating the 2 output mods (I did).  I'll probably try redoing FNIS next, but I hope I don't break things.  The only other thing probably worth mentioning is I'm using Advanced Follower Tweaks.  I didn't see it listed as incompatible anywhere and it seems to be working fine.

 

Edit: Looking at the log files, I see one thing that might indicate something (specifically the first 2 lines):

 

[08/02/2021 - 08:03:52PM] AnimCache: INVALIDATED! 0 -> 247
[08/02/2021 - 08:03:52PM] AnimCache: Cleared!
[08/02/2021 - 08:03:53PM] AnimCache: MISS -- 2:Furniture,Bed::TRUE
[08/02/2021 - 08:03:54PM] AnimCache: MISS -- 2:Furniture,Chair::TRUE
[08/02/2021 - 08:03:57PM] AnimCache: MISS -- 2:FF,Oral,Cunnilingus:Furniture,Vampire,Aggressive:TRUE
[08/02/2021 - 08:03:58PM] AnimCache: Using slot: 0

 

It still seems to be picking a valid animation, though.  Not sure if that's normal or not.

 

Edit 2:  Okay, thinking about it, I'm pretty sure I did the FNIS/Nemesis install step before I added any of the LL section files.  I'm in the process of redoing that.

Edited August 3, 2021 by SirCarcass

[erapx]

14 hours ago, jaeos said:

you mean this part?

  Reveal hidden contents

Where exactly did you stop, are there ANY warnings in MO2? like this

  Reveal hidden contents

(I turned off my 3bbb to get the warning) I disabled all of my mods back to that point and didn't have a warning. Disable all of the NPC section mods you already have installed and see if you still CTD. Keep backing up until you no longer CTD. (you can shut off 5 at a time to make it faster) let us know which mod is causing the crash, we may have an older version in our archives that may work better.

WHEN it crashes is also important. Does it crash before the logo, or after, does it crash at the menu when you hit new, or does it start to load and crash? If it will not even get to the logo you have a missing master and should have a warning about it in mo2. The rest of the crashes are related to things like animation count or missing meshes, (ie crash at menu into game is one of those two, since you have not installed any animations yet, you have a missing mesh somewhere.

 

Inside the gameplay just crashes. I started to notice the crashing began after the UI and Textures modding part.

[MercyPangur]

Is there a repack with every mod so we dont have to download everything individually? This looks like it will take forever

[SirCarcass]

Okay, I fixed my animation issue.  It was because I installed FNIS and Nemesis before I installed any of the Lovers Lab section stuff.  You may want to include a note somewhere in the OP to wait on installing those 2 until some point towards the end.  It seems obvious once you understand how everything works together, but as a newbie going through this for the first time, it can be misleading.

 

Now I just need to figure out what is causing my fire issue.

 

Edit:  Aaaaand I think I finally solved the fire issue, too.  I had tried reinstalling Embers XD countless times with different options and it never seemed to make a difference.  This time I just removed it completely from MO and then re-added it and now it seems to be working.

Edited August 3, 2021 by SirCarcass

[Just Don't]

2 hours ago, MercyPangur said:

Is there a repack with every mod so we dont have to download everything individually? This looks like it will take forever

No.

2 hours ago, MercyPangur said:

This looks like it will take forever

Learning to do things yourself does last forever.

[jaeos]

10 hours ago, SirCarcass said:

Okay, I fixed my animation issue.  It was because I installed FNIS and Nemesis before I installed any of the Lovers Lab section stuff.  You may want to include a note somewhere in the OP to wait on installing those 2 until some point towards the end.  It seems obvious once you understand how everything works together, but as a newbie going through this for the first time, it can be misleading.

 

Now I just need to figure out what is causing my fire issue.

 

Edit:  Aaaaand I think I finally solved the fire issue, too.  I had tried reinstalling Embers XD countless times with different options and it never seemed to make a difference.  This time I just removed it completely from MO and then re-added it and now it seems to be working.

It does say to install mods in order. and the FNIS and Nemesis outputs are at the bottom... so... ?‍♂️ you install the main mods yes, but you do not run them until the entire list is done, regardless of how much you "just wanna see if stuff is working". If you do, be prepared for things breaking or not going right.

 

14 hours ago, erapx said:

 

Inside the gameplay just crashes. I started to notice the crashing began after the UI and Textures modding part.

That sounds like a stack crash, but.. it could be a missing texture. (is it random (stack crash) or can you replicate it in the exact same spot every time (missing mesh)?  Was it a new playthrough or did you do it mid-game (anything past the live another life prison cell is considered mid-playthrough)? 

[jaeos]

11 hours ago, MercyPangur said:

Is there a repack with every mod so we dont have to download everything individually? This looks like it will take forever

Depending on server download speed and your connection it will be about 14 hours of downloads, plenty of time to read the 275 pages of issues, questions and fixes. my suggestion is download an entire section (except textures, do those 10-20 at a time) install all of your downloads and go to the next section. You can skim it down to about 8 if you skip 80% of the textures section (not recommended but hey, it's your game)

[jaeos]

8 hours ago, Just Don't said:

No.

Learning to do things yourself does last forever.

What's your retainer for laying stuff out without thought for consequences? Might need a phone call to my boss ?

[akadeadpool]

@Aylis or anyone use mods that change vanilla weapons, especially unique weapons, you should consider moving MLU to priority before those mods as MLU at current position will override all your weapon mods (unless there is MLU patch like ROM mod).

 

One such affected mod in this modlist is Unique Thane Weapon. How you resolve this conflict, I'll leave it to your own.

 

Mod suggestion:

- For people who dislike MorrowLoot encounter zone changes, consider using Arena - An Encounter Zone Overhaul, load this mod after MLU to change ez back to work somewhat like vanilla but still difficult.

- Unique Items Tweaks: cover the rest of unique items that ROM does not.

Edited August 4, 2021 by akadeadpool