Devious Devices - Laura's Bondage Shop (16-aug-2025) v3.55 LE & SE

kempo95 · February 21, 2019

6 hours ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

I know that you didn't want it for every npc. I meant that I liked the part where you can ask for extra restraints for a higher reward. Having it as an option for every npc would be unbalanced and unrealistic.

Did I say something weird?

No, just extra clarification. I can't imagine someone who would want to wear restraints from a dead person. But this what I came up with that was somewhat realistic and balanced.

Now thinking about it again, you can use smiths/general good stores instead. Something like: Has someone sold you any devices lately that you can't get rid of?

*Laura* · February 21, 2019

7 hours ago, kempo95 said:

No, just extra clarification. I can't imagine someone who would want to wear restraints from a dead person. But this what I came up with that was somewhat realistic and balanced.

Now thinking about it again, you can use smiths/general good stores instead. Something like: Has someone sold you any devices lately that you can't get rid of?

Okay.

Merchants would be a better pick. It makes sense that they would have them and we visit them anyway.

Rosty · February 22, 2019

Hi, first of all I like the mod but I have aproblem, on the quet "what she dererves" I have to meet somebody to find Jade, and after the interaction my character just stand there while the NPC doen't do or say anything else, instead of go to the next scene, there is a way to fix this? thanks

Zaflis · February 22, 2019

3 hours ago, Rosty said:

Hi, first of all I like the mod but I have aproblem, on the quet "what she dererves" I have to meet somebody to find Jade, and after the interaction my character just stand there while the NPC doen't do or say anything else, instead of go to the next scene, there is a way to fix this? thanks

Did you try it more than once? The likely cause is some script lag, mod conflict or error in installing some required mod. In the end the save could be messed up, you would then propably see tens and tens of errors in papyrus log.

Rosty · February 22, 2019

5 hours ago, Zaflis said:

Did you try it more than once? The likely cause is some script lag, mod conflict or error in installing some required mod. In the end the save could be messed up, you would then propably see tens and tens of errors in papyrus log.

Yes I tried it several times and papyrus log doen't say anything.

*Laura* · February 22, 2019

2 hours ago, Rosty said:

Yes I tried it several times and papyrus log doen't say anything.

Can you post your loadorder and papyrus log in a spoiler here?

Rosty · February 22, 2019

1 hour ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

Can you post your loadorder and papyrus log in a spoiler here?

This is what I got on the papyrus, I am using Skyrim SE

Spoiler

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*Laura* · February 22, 2019

13 minutes ago, Rosty said:

This is what I got on the papyrus, I am using Skyrim SE

Reveal hidden contents

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This mod hasn't been converted or tested for SE.

The shop part works, but quests and scenes can cause issues with SE.

I suggest that you use Skyrim LE if you want to play the quests.

But if you really want to try this with SSE, make sure that all required mods are the SE version. I heard that it did work for some people.

Rosty · February 22, 2019

3 minutes ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

This mod hasn't been converted or tested for SSE.

The shop part works, but quests and scenes can cause issues with SSE.

I suggest that you use Skyrim LE if you want to play the quests.

oh ok, thanks

shadowwolf2k7 · February 24, 2019

On 2/20/2019 at 1:50 AM, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

That sounds interesting.

Like Zaflis said, it's really similair to DCURs Cursed Collar and Bound Queen. That's not a bad thing, they're both amazing. I really like the idea, I just need to make sure that mine will be different.

here is how they could be different, they could be from a set called the slave breaker set. while wearing the collar all answers would have master or mistress. the lore behind them could be that some one asked a daedric lord for a set of devises to tame his slaves, with out having to resort to hurting them. and the items created would make it feel natural for the slave to do what the were told to do, and adress their owner as master or mistress. the set could include a belt with plugs, maybe a bra, and maybe arm and leg cuffs. when the whole set is worn the slave would want to do anything to make their owner happy.

JulioRosario89 · February 24, 2019

7 hours ago, shadowwolf2k7 said:

here is how they could be different, they could be from a set called the slave breaker set. while wearing the collar all answers would have master or mistress. the lore behind them could be that some one asked a daedric lord for a set of devises to tame his slaves, with out having to resort to hurting them. and the items created would make it feel natural for the slave to do what the were told to do, and adress their owner as master or mistress. the set could include a belt with plugs, maybe a bra, and maybe arm and leg cuffs. when the whole set is worn the slave would want to do anything to make their owner happy.

I sencond this idea, it sounds like it could become very interesting as a one-time quest. You might also tie in your first encounter with Sloane while wearing the slave breaker set. You would encounter her once you have the entire set on. She has heard you know Laura and that you took some jobs for her. Sloane would then use the set to make you do something (like retrieve an item in a dangerous place) and then leave and send you back to Laura with her regards and a reminder that she will come to collect soon.

I don't know if you like the idea, but it just popped up in my mind and I wanted to suggest it

shadowwolf2k7 · February 24, 2019

7 hours ago, JulioRosario89 said:

I sencond this idea, it sounds like it could become very interesting as a one-time quest. You might also tie in your first encounter with Sloane while wearing the slave breaker set. You would encounter her once you have the entire set on. She has heard you know Laura and that you took some jobs for her. Sloane would then use the set to make you do something (like retrieve an item in a dangerous place) and then leave and send you back to Laura with her regards and a reminder that she will come to collect soon.

I don't know if you like the idea, but it just popped up in my mind and I wanted to suggest it

i could see it, but feel that the person who poseses the book after the collar is equipped would be the one adressed as master or mistress, and would be the one who the slave, curently the player, would obey/ want to please. all others could be ignored unless if their owner said not to. not saying that sloan couldnt attempt to force the player to do something for her. but with the idea, the player could refuse the initial order and sloan would have to make a threat against laura and/or the shop, using the MQ as an indicator and my personal play style of protecting the players friends, that making a threat towards one of the most powerful people in skyrim could come back to haunt the person in the end.

when i had this idea it was designed for a slave owner that didnt like the idea of whipping their slaves, they felt that their slaves would be more productive if they were not hurt and if they felt happy doing the work. since there is lore that Azura i believe, is the least evil of the Daedric lords, that she was asked to create the devices. she saw that the person was genuine in his request of wanting to be, for a lack of a better term, gentle with his slaves, so she made the items for the slave owner, in a different era. and that is why they are now hidden in ruins.

*Laura* · February 24, 2019

2 hours ago, shadowwolf2k7 said:

i could see it, but feel that the person who poseses the book after the collar is equipped would be the one adressed as master or mistress, and would be the one who the slave, curently the player, would obey/ want to please. all others could be ignored unless if their owner said not to. not saying that sloan couldnt attempt to force the player to do something for her. but with the idea, the player could refuse the initial order and sloan would have to make a threat against laura and/or the shop, using the MQ as an indicator and my personal play style of protecting the players friends, that making a threat towards one of the most powerful people in skyrim could come back to haunt the person in the end.

when i had this idea it was designed for a slave owner that didnt like the idea of whipping their slaves, they felt that their slaves would be more productive if they were not hurt and if they felt happy doing the work. since there is lore that Azura i believe, is the least evil of the Daedric lords, that she was asked to create the devices. she saw that the person was genuine in his request of wanting to be, for a lack of a better term, gentle with his slaves, so she made the items for the slave owner, in a different era. and that is why they are now hidden in ruins.

That sounds really interesting. A special magical set of restraints that brainwashes the wearer into a obedient slave.

It won't fit Laura or Sloane, so I'll probably have to create a new character for this. It could be a higher power like you said, but I don't want to mess with the vanilla lore too much. So it'll probably be a powerful mage or something. But I'll take a look at the lore to see if this is something a Daedric lord would do.

I did have a magical set of restraints on my todo list. But it will probably take a while before I add this, because I want to focus on Sloane/Jade quest line first.

neosuduno · February 25, 2019

5 hours ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

That sounds really interesting. A special magical set of restraints that brainwashes the wearer into a obedient slave.

It won't fit Laura or Sloane, so I'll probably have to create a new character for this. It could be a higher power like you said, but I don't want to mess with the vanilla lore too much. So it'll probably be a powerful mage or something. But I'll take a look at the lore to see if this is something a Daedric lord would do.

I did have a magical set of restraints on my todo list. But it will probably take a while before I add this, because I want to focus on Sloane/Jade quest line first.

THREE LORDS would do that! Molag Bal begin the first, as he is the daedric lord of domination, as well as the King of Rape (That is literally one of his titles). Sanguine would do it as he is the dardric Lord of indulgence, excess pleasure and carnial sin. Sheogorath would do it for a quick laugh at someone else's expense.

*Laura* · February 25, 2019

5 hours ago, neosuduno said:

THREE LORDS would do that! Molag Bal begin the first, as he is the daedric lord of domination, as well as the King of Rape (That is literally one of his titles). Sanguine would do it as he is the dardric Lord of indulgence, excess pleasure and carnial sin. Sheogorath would do it for a quick laugh at someone else's expense.

Thanks for letting me know. Seems all 3 would fit that role. I can even choose between cruelty, lust and pranking.

Taki17 · February 25, 2019

5 hours ago, neosuduno said:

THREE LORDS would do that!

On top of those:

Clavicus Vile, since he is a sort of a trickster, where he entices you with great benefits if you accept him granting your wishes, but it'll backfire on you.

Mephala is literally the devious daedra, as she is known to associate herself with secrecy and sex, and likes to cause problems for mortals for her own amusement.

*Laura* · February 25, 2019

1 minute ago, Taki17 said:

On top of those:

Clavicus Vile, since he is a sort of a trickster, where he entices you with great benefits if you accept him granting your wishes, but it'll backfire on you.

Mephala is literally the devious daedra, as she is known to associate herself with secrecy and sex, and likes to cause problems for mortals for her own amusement.

I was never really interested in the Daedra for some reason, but that's really interesting.

Taki17 · February 25, 2019

15 minutes ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

I was never really interested in the Daedra for some reason, but that's really interesting.

Was Skyrim your first venture into TES? If so, that's understandable, since I've found their involvement miles better in Morrowind and Oblivion.

*Laura* · February 25, 2019

5 minutes ago, Taki17 said:

Was Skyrim your first venture into TES? If so, that's understandable, since I've found their involvement miles better in Morrowind and Oblivion.

Yeah, it's my first TES. It was also pretty much my first RPG.

I did read a bunch of the lore in Skyrim and a lot of it is cool, but the Deadric lords never really interested me. I think that it was because they seem like 1 dimensional archetypes to me.

It's like: Mogal Bal is evil and he does evil things because he's evil and he likes it. And I think that it's kinda the same for all Daedric lords. It's cool to see what their powers are and who they were, but they're not interesting characters to me.

Taki17 · February 25, 2019

2 hours ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

they're not interesting characters to me.

If I'm not mistaken, the core aspect of deities in TES is basically that belief in them and worshipping them is what grants them power. Daedra are pretty much about their own agenda that is never really clarified as far as I know, but having followers to rely upon for power, whereas being able to toy with them at your will seems certainly useful from a daedric standpoint. Them having one or more aspects to embody serves as a means to attract followers, since these usually primal and basic emotions are the easiest to grasp. So a daedra who embodies sex would have an easier time to entice mortals to use them for their own goals (amusement, study, whatever) than say, an aedra who's main aspect is hard work and honesty.

You have a knack for dialogues and storytelling, so I'm confident you'd be able to come up with your own take on a daedric prince that's both consistent with the lore and can be made to fit the role you intend for them, should you want to include the daedra. I don't think they have to be directly involved or appear at all, it very well could be just their followers.

*Laura* · February 25, 2019

7 hours ago, Taki17 said:

If I'm not mistaken, the core aspect of deities in TES is basically that belief in them and worshipping them is what grants them power. Daedra are pretty much about their own agenda that is never really clarified as far as I know, but having followers to rely upon for power, whereas being able to toy with them at your will seems certainly useful from a daedric standpoint. Them having one or more aspects to embody serves as a means to attract followers, since these usually primal and basic emotions are the easiest to grasp. So a daedra who embodies sex would have an easier time to entice mortals to use them for their own goals (amusement, study, whatever) than say, an aedra who's main aspect is hard work and honesty.

You have a knack for dialogues and storytelling, so I'm confident you'd be able to come up with your own take on a daedric prince that's both consistent with the lore and can be made to fit the role you intend for them, should you want to include the daedra. I don't think they have to be directly involved or appear at all, it very well could be just their followers.

They seemed like 1 dimensional characters to me and I agree that their affect on the world is very interesting.

But I'll take a deep dive into the Daedra lore because there is definitely more than I thought. I'll see which Daedra I can use and a Daedra zealot could also be a good canditate for this.

Thanks for the info by the way.

lulzboat · February 26, 2019

This mod works only for female characters?

Which quest mod is better for "sub" male character vs "dom" female npcs? this or Dream Shop or neither?

*Laura* · February 26, 2019

4 hours ago, lulzboat said:

This mod works only for female characters?

Which quest mod is better for "sub" male character vs "dom" female npcs? this or Dream Shop or neither?

This mod is made for female characters. When you use a male character things could look weird and/or break.

You can still use it to buy restraints, but I think DD For Him is outdated, so i'm afraid that that won't work.

In short, it probably won't work. Sorry.

DrVec · February 27, 2019

1st of all you really like League.

And second... can I ask what is planned for the next Update. Maybe you already wrote that but I hate in to go trough all the pages to find it. Would be nice :3

Its kinda Sad to to look in ll and no mod is updated ?

greets

neosuduno · February 27, 2019

On 2/25/2019 at 11:33 AM, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

They seemed like 1 dimensional characters to me and I agree that their affect on the world is very interesting.

But I'll take a deep dive into the Daedra lore because there is definitely more than I thought. I'll see which Daedra I can use and a Daedra zealot could also be a good canditate for this.

Thanks for the info by the way.

That is just it, the daedra and aedra are one-dimentional. They CANNOT have more dimensions than what works within their sphere of influence.

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