Devious Devices - Laura's Bondage Shop (16-aug-2025) v3.55 LE & SE

[kempo95]

2 hours ago, Skitz470 said:

Seems to be any piece of gear.  If I modify locks and put it on and then unlock it I have no issues, the moment I try to escape out of it with one of the 3 choices it crashes after I hit A and normally the animation would start  Not getting any errors when I run FNIS.

Edit: And I just realized that it might simply be Im trying to run it on Skyrim SE.  Noticed the versions of the required mods you listed are 4.2 but for SE I can only find 4.1.  
Spent a lil bit of time seeing if I could determine quest ID and like try to skip that specific stage just to see what happens but dang active quest list is so long its like a needle in a haystack guessing which one it is via console.

I'm also using SE and everything (still) seems to be fine for me.

Note: right after you complete the scene with Jade and get sent back to Laura, a struggle animation plays. My guess is that something is wrong with your animation set up rather than with this mod. 

[leddis3]

2 hours ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

Glad you like it. It was a good suggestion and it was surprisingly easy to add.

On the other hand it means I earn less money now xD

And good to know you're working on some system like I mentioned. I'll very much look forward to that whenever it's ready!

 

Oh and if I may further push my luck on a suggestion for that, when you do get around to tracking responses or however it's done if you can make it so that if you decline payment say 3 times in a row, Laura no longer offers to pay you at all for wearing the belt, as it's "expected". It wouldn't be in a mean or unfair way, more like a mutual understanding you both sense.

Maybe she'd also remove the choice of plugs when being belted, deciding for herself as you've shown such submission.

[Zaflis]

I have this fun game going on with devious follower, fast travel cost (modified 50% higher than default), cursed loot and even devious lore loot. I always open darepacks, urns etc, no mod that increases vendor's gold, uncapper set to level speech and physical damage skills much slower. So the goal is to not become debt slave while doing restraint retrieval missions ? Happened to get whore collar while having laura's belt on still, i don't think i can get the collar off yet. So far managing debt well, one point went under 100g myself. But a couple things:

 

- When i return in restraints to the shop and the walk to near firepit begins, sometimes player starts some belt chafing animation even though i've set those chances to 0 in DD's MCM. But when i stop that animation the walk doesn't resume and quests stucks to that. I just reload game and wait a bit for any annoyance animations to trigger before i start the walk. But there's propably some room for improvement, like start the next dialog after N amount of time (possibly even wait for SL animation to end?), not when player hits some specific trigger. Or have both as conditions, either or needed.

 

- I read back in the thread there was some comments about not using restraint boots. Could we have an MCM option for them? Real life aside this is still just a game where you don't get hurt when fall. They are a fun addition. Of course other mods may add these things as extra rarely; there was one time i hit a cursed trap after opening the quest chest, and wasn't able to remove boots and collar until after returning to the shop.

[Lynnig]

Tested V2.02 on SSE for a couple of cycles of retrieving cursed items and it seems to work flawlessly. ?

[Skitz470]

6 hours ago, kempo95 said:

I'm also using SE and everything (still) seems to be fine for me.

Note: right after you complete the scene with Jade and get sent back to Laura, a struggle animation plays. My guess is that something is wrong with your animation set up rather than with this mod. 

Well animation-wise the only mods I have currently installed are CBP physics, XP32 Skeleton,  FNIS Sexy Move (and the 360 backwards moving patch) FNIS itself, FNIS Creature, FNIS Spells.  Then I have SoS, DD 4.1, DDa 3.0, DDX 4.1, Devious Captures, SL Defeat, SL Aroused, SL Framev1.63, ZAZ animations, of course Lauras Bondage House (listed all the mods that arent classified as anything in Vortex, also for the most part I figure most are tied into each other in some way).  Only other thing I've found so far was I did a file integrity check via Steam and it found 1 file that failed and reacquired it.

Edit: Okay still crashing, though I noticed after I tried to move away from Jade right as the quest completed she was simply walking towards the door, no sort of struggle animation or anything seemed to be attempted.

[Skitz470]

WOOT!  Okay, so while Jade was tying me up I decided to unplug my controller and swap back to mouse/keyboard.  Held down W as she finished talking and sprinted out of the room, getting out into the hallway where I began the struggle animation to get out and NO CRASH.  

[kempo95]

44 minutes ago, Skitz470 said:

WOOT!  Okay, so while Jade was tying me up I decided to unplug my controller and swap back to mouse/keyboard.  Held down W as she finished talking and sprinted out of the room, getting out into the hallway where I began the struggle animation to get out and NO CRASH.  

Can you try to do that again, but now just wait until the struggle animation starts? And then maybe again with a controller for good measure. So that the controller is the only variable.

It might just be that DD has no controller support. Don't know how, but still.

[Zaflis]

1 hour ago, Skitz470 said:

Well animation-wise the only mods I have currently installed are CBP physics, XP32 Skeleton,  FNIS Sexy Move (and the 360 backwards moving patch) FNIS itself, FNIS Creature, FNIS Spells.  Then I have SoS, DD 4.1, DDa 3.0, DDX 4.1, Devious Captures, SL Defeat, SL Aroused, SL Framev1.63, ZAZ animations, of course Lauras Bondage House (listed all the mods that arent classified as anything in Vortex, also for the most part I figure most are tied into each other in some way).  Only other thing I've found so far was I did a file integrity check via Steam and it found 1 file that failed and reacquired it.

Edit: Okay still crashing, though I noticed after I tried to move away from Jade right as the quest completed she was simply walking towards the door, no sort of struggle animation or anything seemed to be attempted.

CBP and any *BBP is less supported here, Devious Devices is all about HDT, which in turn won't work with XP32 skeleton but XPMSE. Your DDI and DDX are outdated. If you verify game files with Steam it destroys the edits you should have made to master files. Follow a cleaning guide for those.

[Laura]

3 hours ago, Zaflis said:

I have this fun game going on with devious follower, fast travel cost (modified 50% higher than default), cursed loot and even devious lore loot. I always open darepacks, urns etc, no mod that increases vendor's gold, uncapper set to level speech and physical damage skills much slower. So the goal is to not become debt slave while doing restraint retrieval missions ? Happened to get whore collar while having laura's belt on still, i don't think i can get the collar off yet. So far managing debt well, one point went under 100g myself. But a couple things:

 

- When i return in restraints to the shop and the walk to near firepit begins, sometimes player starts some belt chafing animation even though i've set those chances to 0 in DD's MCM. But when i stop that animation the walk doesn't resume and quests stucks to that. I just reload game and wait a bit for any annoyance animations to trigger before i start the walk. But there's propably some room for improvement, like start the next dialog after N amount of time (possibly even wait for SL animation to end?), not when player hits some specific trigger. Or have both as conditions, either or needed.

I think something else is going on there. The belt doesn't use custom scripts, so it follows the settings in the DD MCM.

The DD events like the belt chafing are also blocked during any scene, so it must be an SL animation. But I don't trigger an SL animation there.

I suspect that something else is triggering these.

 

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- I read back in the thread there was some comments about not using restraint boots. Could we have an MCM option for them? Real life aside this is still just a game where you don't get hurt when fall. They are a fun addition. Of course other mods may add these things as extra rarely; there was one time i hit a cursed trap after opening the quest chest, and wasn't able to remove boots and collar until after returning to the shop.

I'll reconsider the boots. I'll probably add an MCM setting for them, but I'm not sure yet.

 

49 minutes ago, Skitz470 said:

WOOT!  Okay, so while Jade was tying me up I decided to unplug my controller and swap back to mouse/keyboard.  Held down W as she finished talking and sprinted out of the room, getting out into the hallway where I began the struggle animation to get out and NO CRASH.  

That's good news.

[KomradePavlov]

10 hours ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

Thank you.

I have some plans for the cell and it is a lot like what you suggested.

Wonderfull news~ Looking forward to it!

[Skitz470]

20 minutes ago, Zaflis said:

CBP and any *BBP is less supported here, Devious Devices is all about HDT, which in turn won't work with XP32 skeleton but XPMSE. Your DDI and DDX are outdated. If you verify game files with Steam it destroys the edits you should have made to master files. Follow a cleaning guide for those.

well try as I might I couldnt find a 4.2 version for either of those for Skyrim SE, only for Oldrim.

[shadowwolf2k7]

i wonder if this is  possible for you or not.

 

i had an idea for 2 quests, one to find a strange new plug/belt combo. both would be broken so you couldnt equip them but laura would want them so she could try and get them working. the second quest would be to test them for her. they could be named experimental plug and experimental belt. the plug would be remote controlled, but wouldnt work unless if the belt is equipped. the second quest would have 2 parts, the first part would be done in the shop. while the second part would be out in the world and would require a trust worthy friend ie a housecarl or even serana.  the part where it is tested in the field would be configurable  of something like 1 to 3 days.

 

the plug could have 2 settings one being the teasing and the other an orgasmic setting.

 

there would have to be some sort of detection that if the player or follower are in combat, the function of the plug wouldnt work.

 

it would, for me at least, add to the fun i have and reason i have a follower with me ?.

 

it is fun when 10 min after removing all the items you had larua put on to all of a sudden, having your follower say, "time to tie you up, and i wont take no for an answer" which they take the keys from you as well.

[Zaflis]

3 hours ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

I think something else is going on there. The belt doesn't use custom scripts, so it follows the settings in the DD MCM.

The DD events like the belt chafing are also blocked during any scene, so it must be an SL animation. But I don't trigger an SL animation there.

I suspect that something else is triggering these.

Yeah it's not your mod's fault, i have player stop and do those animations while walking outside way before this mod existed yet. It's either DD or Cursed Loot on high arousal, of this i'm sure. I'm just wondering if there's a way to take it into account, if SL animations sometimes are impossible to prevent. Like a failure recovery for the scene. Today it happened once after i was moved in place. So when Katarina came to inspect devices i could run in the room normally, i mean the scene should give back player controls only after the dialog is fully over. If it happens before player moves to spot, it just doesn't proceed in any way.

 

90% leaning on it being on DD though. Maybe a unique script for all chastity devices, where player either fights it or tries to relieve. There was at least 3 related configs in MCM's for device effects but they don't fully disable it at 0% although greatly reduce.

 

@Skitz470 This topic is in Oldrim area, it would be helpful in the future if you mentioned using SE. Instructions to SE are completely different usually.

[Bundybear33]

Don't know if this has been suggested but it would be nice if Laura's relationship/ dialogue could advance with time. I have done many quests and interactions with her but she says stuff. Would be nice to develop friendship over time and greetings to suit like with SL Approach for example. Hello friend etc.

Am loving your mod been playing since the first release and getting regular updates is awesome, i too am using sse and having no problems. Thank you?

[Suzi95]

On 1/25/2019 at 11:16 PM, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

Thank you.

Like I said earlier, the rest of the DD mods are all great and they all have their place. But they're often really cruel, abusive and often have rape in them.

I don't know about you, but getting raped scares me to death. That is just about the worst thing you could do to a person.

Using it as a roleplaying scene with someone you trust can be hot, but actually getting raped is terrible.

I like knowing that I'm not the only one that thinks this.

You are spot on. I guess its a fantasy to some and in a video game enviorment of super-human mages/warriors dragons and healing potions its relatively harmless..  but from my point of view _consent is sexy af_ doing kinky shit because the character you play wants it makes it so much better. So your style is very welcome ?

[Laura]

9 hours ago, shadowwolf2k7 said:

i wonder if this is  possible for you or not.

 

i had an idea for 2 quests, one to find a strange new plug/belt combo. both would be broken so you couldnt equip them but laura would want them so she could try and get them working. the second quest would be to test them for her. they could be named experimental plug and experimental belt. the plug would be remote controlled, but wouldnt work unless if the belt is equipped. the second quest would have 2 parts, the first part would be done in the shop. while the second part would be out in the world and would require a trust worthy friend ie a housecarl or even serana.  the part where it is tested in the field would be configurable  of something like 1 to 3 days.

 

the plug could have 2 settings one being the teasing and the other an orgasmic setting.

 

there would have to be some sort of detection that if the player or follower are in combat, the function of the plug wouldnt work.

 

it would, for me at least, add to the fun i have and reason i have a follower with me ?.

 

it is fun when 10 min after removing all the items you had larua put on to all of a sudden, having your follower say, "time to tie you up, and i wont take no for an answer" which they take the keys from you as well.

Something like that should be possible. I have some kind of experimental restraints thing planned, but I don't know when yet.

I never play with followers, so I don't think I'll use followers for a quest. I also remember that it was a nightmare everytime Vel did something with followers.

 

 

9 hours ago, Zaflis said:

Yeah it's not your mod's fault, i have player stop and do those animations while walking outside way before this mod existed yet. It's either DD or Cursed Loot on high arousal, of this i'm sure. I'm just wondering if there's a way to take it into account, if SL animations sometimes are impossible to prevent. Like a failure recovery for the scene. Today it happened once after i was moved in place. So when Katarina came to inspect devices i could run in the room normally, i mean the scene should give back player controls only after the dialog is fully over. If it happens before player moves to spot, it just doesn't proceed in any way.

 

90% leaning on it being on DD though. Maybe a unique script for all chastity devices, where player either fights it or tries to relieve. There was at least 3 related configs in MCM's for device effects but they don't fully disable it at 0% although greatly reduce.

 

@Skitz470 This topic is in Oldrim area, it would be helpful in the future if you mentioned using SE. Instructions to SE are completely different usually.

It's actually up to the mod that triggers those animations to stop it from going off during a scene.

Some rape mods don't allow it to happen during a scene and the DD events are also blocked during a scene.

 

 

5 hours ago, Bundybear33 said:

Don't know if this has been suggested but it would be nice if Laura's relationship/ dialogue could advance with time. I have done many quests and interactions with her but she says stuff. Would be nice to develop friendship over time and greetings to suit like with SL Approach for example. Hello friend etc.

Am loving your mod been playing since the first release and getting regular updates is awesome, i too am using sse and having no problems. Thank you?

Thank you.

I'm already planning on doing something like that. I agree that they should respond a little different because of what you've done for them.

 

 

3 hours ago, Suzi95 said:

You are spot on. I guess its a fantasy to some and in a video game enviorment of super-human mages/warriors dragons and healing potions its relatively harmless..  but from my point of view _consent is sexy af_ doing kinky shit because the character you play wants it makes it so much better. So your style is very welcome ?

Just about every mod here has rape and torture and stuff, so I assumed that that was what people wanted. But I still chose to do it my way and I'm surprised by how many people think the same way.

 

I already said this before, but the thing I like the most about bondage is the love and trust. Having him/her tie you up to cuddle and play with you is the best.

I want my Skyrim to reflect what I like and getting raped scares my to death.

 

I don't want to seem sexist, but something else I noticed is that it seems like most guys use their character as eye candy.

While my character is like a stand-in for me, I even gave her the same hair and eye colour and stuff.

I'm obviously not sure about the eye candy thing, but that's how it seems to me.

[leddis3]

2 hours ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

Just about every mod here has rape and torture and stuff, so I assumed that that was what people wanted. But I still chose to do it my way and I'm surprised by how many people think the same way.

 

I already said this before, but the thing I like the most about bondage is the love and trust. Having him/her tie you up to cuddle and play with you is the best.

I want my Skyrim to reflect what I like and getting raped scares my to death.

 

I don't want to seem sexist, but something else I noticed is that it seems like most guys use their character as eye candy.

While my character is like a stand-in for me, I even gave her the same hair and eye colour and stuff.

I'm obviously not sure about the eye candy thing, but that's how it seems to me.

 

Speaking for myself, my tastes are... diverse, and I have a thing for adventurers meeting sticky fates.

But your approach is equally welcome. Especially because it isn't done very often. I think that, in a sense, rape, hard bondage, slavery etc. have become the norm here and while there's nothing wrong with that in fantasy, when something becomes normal people tend to go for more unique content.

The closest I can think of to this is Captured Dreams, Devious Followers and certain parts of Cursed Loot, but they all share the issue that the player tends to be completely objectified as a sub, particularly in Devious Followers where it's clear this is only being done for the follower's pleasure.

 

Again those are fine, and I like them all. But what you offer is very much wanted and appreciated.

 

As for eye candy. Sure I think a lot of guys look at their characters that way. Probably some women too. I don't think it's sexist to point that out.

But I don't think that makes them not care about their characters. I mean I can't speak for them either, but I have quite a few guy friends who put a lot of thought and care into their female OCs, even if they're designing their ideal waifu.

For me, I'm much like you, and I consider playing as them a vicarious experience. Because I'm a huge sub, usually my games consist of trying to play normally as long as I can before my character's arousal starts getting her into all kinds of trouble xD

So I'm very excited about your mod and how it'll continue, I'd love to eventually see my character become Laura's sub full time in a way that feels natural, because she trusts her and Laura just wants to give pleasure in return.

[neosuduno]

Thanks for the mention in the update. I find the quest to be much more fun now.

[Laura]

1 minute ago, neosuduno said:

Thanks for the mention in the update. I find the quest to be much more fun now.

That's good to hear.

[JulioRosario89]

On 1/27/2019 at 11:47 AM, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

I don't want to seem sexist, but something else I noticed is that it seems like most guys use their character as eye candy.

While my character is like a stand-in for me, I even gave her the same hair and eye colour and stuff.

I'm obviously not sure about the eye candy thing, but that's how it seems to me.

I also don't think you are sexist by saying this. Being a guy that plays a female character whenever possible, I must say that you probably are right with the eye candy. At least in my case. I do try to play females because I think they give a spin to the story that a male character could not (everyone who is tired of straight male heroes, raise your hand!), but I do tend to make them look like a girl/woman I would find attractive. It is also hard for me to use a (mostly reluctant) submissive female character as a stand-in for myself being male and a top to boot... Then again, this might just be my personal limitation, as I don't like putting myself in the middle of a story, but rather leave it to the characters. Don't know how others see it, though.

As I said before, your style is a breath of fresh air (especially after I realized that I had indeed become accostumed to the more forced aspects of the DD mods, which is kind of scary...) and I like it a lot. Unfortunately, I was not able to play the new versions yet, but once I do, I'm sure I'll love the new content. Thanks for providing us with such a well constructed, somewhat alternative mod! ?

[SiegfreidZ]

4 hours ago, JulioRosario89 said:

I do try to play females because I think they give a spin to the story that a male character could not (everyone who is tired of straight male heroes, raise your hand!), but I do tend to make them look like a girl/woman I would find attractive

I agree to this whole-heartedly, and this is also the reason why I tend to prefer playing female PCs. Badass female heroine saving the world? Yes, more of that, please.

[Ursur1major]

On 1/27/2019 at 11:47 AM, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

Just about every mod here has rape and torture and stuff, so I assumed that that was what people wanted. But I still chose to do it my way and I'm surprised by how many people think the same way.

 

I already said this before, but the thing I like the most about bondage is the love and trust. Having him/her tie you up to cuddle and play with you is the best.

I want my Skyrim to reflect what I like and getting raped scares my to death.

 

I don't want to seem sexist, but something else I noticed is that it seems like most guys use their character as eye candy.

While my character is like a stand-in for me, I even gave her the same hair and eye colour and stuff.

I'm obviously not sure about the eye candy thing, but that's how it seems to me. 

The big problem with skyrim and the reason I tend to ignore mods that put the player in a domineering role is simply because the average NPC in skyrim is extremely "Woody", and most mods don't even try to build up the NPCs.

If the average citizen in Whiterun is tied up with bondage devices then that's not going to affect them, they might make some new noises and have a different posture but they're still going to walk around doing exactly what they've always been doing, and rush suicidaly into combat like normal which makes playing a dom just feel disingeuine, because the NPCs cannot consent, they will always do exactly what the game tells them to do, so any roleplay that relies on consent or nonconsent from the NPCs falls flat because at the end of the day it's just theatre.

But putting the player character in a submissive role puts the focus on them, and because the player character has an actual human in control of it then things that affect the character also to some extent affect the player, when the player consents than that's actually consent and when the player is forced into something against their will then they feel that. Rape is probably extremely popular because the frameworks are already there and setting up a rape scenario doesn't require that much story and character development to get an impact.

 

And I definitely want more mods that build on a consensual relationship between the player and someone else, and I feel that this mod is definitely on the right track for that, for good writing breathes lives into situations.

 

And I don't really feel I have much more to add to the conversation that JulioRosario89 and leddis3 haven't already mentioned.

[Ursur1major]

Developing on the idea of consensual submission, some ideas for some smaller content in form of Dares by Laura or Katarina that have a chance to trigger when interacting with them, with a choice to accept or decline.

 

The dares would be very simple radiant quests that have you do a small task and then return for a small reward.

Examples could be:

 

Laura gives you say a bondage collar and tell you to go out and ask a random person on the streets to put it on for you, with some choices of dialogue setting what tone you want your character to have when asking for it, from just telling them that it's a dare and would they please help them to begging the NPC to please put on the collar. the main attraction here is probably the reaction of the NPC, so I imagine it will be quite dialogue heavy if you want to get as little repetition as possible. (and on return Laura would ask if you want to keep the device or if she should take it off)

 

Ask you if you might not want to feel the air on your skin a bit, and can if you want to put all your apparel in a chest in the woods to riverwood that you have to run to in the nude, maybe even a armbinder so you don't cover yourself, the reward would either be in the chest or require you to run back. (Once again you have the option to remove the armbinder at the end if it was equiped)

 

Ask if you might want to work on your posture and have you clear a dungeon equiped with the restrictive restraints set.

 

Offer you the option to wear a shortskirt and plug/vibrator for an hour or so in the Bannered Mare (The Shortskirt apparel would have to be supplied by Laura and as a result would have to be added from another mod), if vibrator then Laura or Katarina would flash a dial and tell you to think of her. I imagine this would also require a bit of writing, but not as much as the first one, as to make the hour or so interresting then there would be blurbs with the character thinking to herself about getting caught, and potential NPCs dialogue that hint that they might guess what's going on, punctuated by the occasional vibration.

 

Most of these listed lean mostly towards the exhibitionist side of the spectrum and if you don't want that for the mod then they can probably be rethought a bit to be more in line with the regular content, but there are probably dozens more ideas one could make up for dares like this.

[shadowwolf2k7]

On 1/27/2019 at 2:47 AM, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

Something like that should be possible. I have some kind of experimental restraints thing planned, but I don't know when yet.

I never play with followers, so I don't think I'll use followers for a quest. I also remember that it was a nightmare everytime Vel did something with followers.

sorry for taking so long explaining what i meant with what i was suggesting about the follower involvement.

 

when i put follower would be involved, it was more along the lines of what kimy did with sasha and how if you ask her to belt you there is a random chance that she activates the plugs. it would be similar. but would add buffs and debuffs while activated. some examples, it they are on low they force you to concentrate on what you are doing, and gain a bonus to damage, but also have a chance that an attack will miss the target. when on high, you are distracted, so you have a slight reduction in damage out put, but become harder to hit. that would also be why you could have a follower with you.

 

i also thought of something else to add as a possible part of the experimental items. if there is magic directed at you, be it damaging or healing, part of the energy could be stored in a plug to power it. which would add a bonus to mana regen and increase the characters arousal level. when the plug gets to 100% it then causes the plug to vibrate until the character orgasms, which completely drains the plug.

[imdumb2019]

Hey there

First of all...i love this mod...

 

a couple questions.

it seems that Miss Laura (ironically, a name very close to the name of my dom...scary...anyway) is rather reluctant to take me out of my chastity belt. I have been waiting in her shop for a few days (and I set the max days to only 2 as I just wanted to test things) and she still refuses to take it off...

is there a quest ID so I could just advance the quest for Laura? or do you have an idea as to why shes not very eager to let me out? lol

 

second. it seems both Laura and I are locked into the elbow-crawling animation. even though Im wearing nothing (other than the chastity belt). However, if I mention that I cant stop moaning then she puts me in the armbinder and I am able to walk again, and so can she. thoughts? I dont particularly want to be locked into the armbinder for the duration of my time in the chastity belt either!

 

Oh, and btw, the model for my chastity belt clips into my body. the lower part is fine but the part around the waist is basically completely inside the body. Since you seem to be a bodyslide guru and I have NO idea how to use the damn thing, can you just tell me how I would go about changing that? or point me to a guide or something that could explain such a thing? I did follow your directions for doing a batch build of the textures already.

thanks for creating such a great mod!