Devious Devices - Laura's Bondage Shop (16-aug-2025) v3.55 LE & SE

[jlttsmiley]

Thanks for the suggestion.

I wanted to so something like that, but I decided against it.

Having a script run everytime you enter the shop can hurt performance.

Playing a scene when the player comes in the shop also means that the player can't talk to them, so they can't start quests or buy things. That can really get in the way.

I would also need to make a lot of scenes and write a lot of dialogue to make it less repetitive.

 

I really like the idea, but there sadly are too many downsides.

 

JUST THINKING: 

 Some extra quest or action can become avaliable as other quest are complete or achievements have been completed.

 Via DIALOG menu adding a dialog like (need something) which could activate a radiant quest if available via level or relationship with quest giver.

[Laura]

12 hours ago, bR4mBozZz said:

So they function properly, but they don't show up for non human races? : Yes.

Is this the same with the regular DD harness ring gag? : No

Have you used TES5Edit to clean my mod recently? (Because it could've caused issues) : No

Which version of Skyrim are you using? LE or SE?

I checked to make sure. In my game, both the regular harness ring gag and the one from my mod work on both humans and mer.

Something must have messed up the mesh it uses.

 

I still want to know a few things:

Are you using Skyrim LE or SE?

Have you changed or updated something before it stopped working?

Can you post a papyrus log from when you equip it?

 

6 hours ago, jlttsmiley said:

JUST THINKING: 

 Some extra quest or action can become avaliable as other quest are complete or achievements have been completed.

 Via DIALOG menu adding a dialog like (need something) which could activate a radiant quest if available via level or relationship with quest giver.

Thanks for the suggestion.

I had something like that in mind. I was thinking of unlocking a small quest after you completed ~3 repeatable quests for them.

[Br4m]

4 hours ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

I checked to make sure. In my game, both the regular harness ring gag and the one from my mod work on both humans and mer.

Something must have messed up the mesh it uses.

 

I still want to know a few things:

Are you using Skyrim LE or SE?

Have you changed or updated something before it stopped working?

Can you post a papyrus log from when you equip it?

Sorry, I forgot to answer the rest of your questions.

i am using LE.

I updated to the newest version of COSIO, and added the "equippable Tails and Horns" mod, as well as a follower mod. But i already downgraded to my old COSIO version again and unsistalled everything new but the follower mod. I then tried if the problem was still occuring on my very old safes and yes, it was.

 

Here is the Papyrus Log:

Papyrus.0.log

[Mr Technician]

7 hours ago, bR4mBozZz said:

Sorry, I forgot to answer the rest of your questions.

i am using LE.

I updated to the newest version of COSIO, and added the "equippable Tails and Horns" mod, as well as a follower mod. But i already downgraded to my old COSIO version again and unsistalled everything new but the follower mod. I then tried if the problem was still occuring on my very old safes and yes, it was.

 

Here is the Papyrus Log:

Papyrus.0.log 158.08 kB · 3 downloads

Hi man, i compared my papyrous log with yours. Not sure why your log gives "Error:" instead of "Warning:" as mine does most of the time. Also looking at your log it states that:

[03/29/2019 - 03:24:24PM] error: File "SkyUI_SE.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.

... and i'm pretty sure if u have got Skyrim "Legendary Edition" (LE) instead of "Special Edition" (SE) - that shouldn't say so. Or you have a mod that wants to load SE version of SkyUI. Or even worse - you have SkyUI for SE Skyrim and using it on LE version of game. Becouse the normal - i mean LE version - shall be named: "SkyUI.esp". Overall problems can come to reality when mixing SE mods with LE game version.

Besides above i don't see major problems with that log.

But also devices not showing on NPC's can be caused by old Bodyslide files generated meshes - which lay down at your hard disk and you should clear out and than generate them again by batchbuild in Bodyslide. (if you have updated than in Bodyslide they should be in groups: DDa, DDx") Also don't forget to tick on "Build Morphs" in Bodyslide as this generates files with *.tri extension - and those tri files are interpreted by game as when you change weight of character when use sliders so objects as armor or gag will adjust to the body weight of character - it shapes with them. Without tri files - objects stays in a same dimension and doesn't expand with a body weight (clipping).

Papyrus.0.log

[Br4m]

1 hour ago, piotsze said:

 

But also devices not showing on NPC's can be caused by old Bodyslide files generated meshes - which lay down at your hard disk and you should clear out

Could you explain what you mean with the "clear out" part? Rebiulding everything was the first thing i tried, and it didnt fix my problem. Besides the model does work for human races, but not elves or orcs etc.

[Mr Technician]

9 hours ago, bR4mBozZz said:

Could you explain what you mean with the "clear out" part? Rebiulding everything was the first thing i tried, and it didnt fix my problem. Besides the model does work for human races, but not elves or orcs etc.

I'm not gonna to explain anything to you - speaking the language you currently understand. I'm not at your place, looking at your pc station - knowing everything about what you did, when you did and why you did - to your Skyrim modded setup.

And you don't say much what you did already. If thats how you wanna ask for help than the choice is yours - not mine.

[Laura]

9 hours ago, bR4mBozZz said:

Could you explain what you mean with the "clear out" part? Rebiulding everything was the first thing i tried, and it didnt fix my problem. Besides the model does work for human races, but not elves or orcs etc.

There is likely something weird going on with your game.

I know that the issue is with the gag from my mod, but it doesn't really make sense to me. The meshes and textures are all from DD, my mod doesn't have meshes or textures in the download because it uses the ones from DD. That's why you don't have to use BodySlide after installing this.

The log sadly doesn't say much because meshes aren't handles with scripts.

Your issue seems to be with your install and I'm not sure how to help you, sorry.

[Mr Technician]

Proof of working in a Spoiler.

 

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All races have SevenBase body with all DD devices build in Bodyslide for 7B body type. Don't tell me it can't be done.

[Laura]

9 minutes ago, piotsze said:

Proof of working in a Spoiler.

 

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Thanks, that confirms what I thought.

 

 

 

@bR4mBozZz The good news is that it's not an issue with my mod itself.

The bad news is that something is messed up in your game and I don't know what.

Have you changed the loadorder mid-playthrough?

Do you have mods that change anything to the mer races?

You told me that the regular DD harness ring gag does work, but mine doesn't. Do you have another mod that has a custom version of that gag and can you check if that one works?

[Taki17]

@bR4mBozZz Have you merged this .esp into any other, or is it part of any bashed patch?

 

Was any mod - like this one, its dependencies, or any other major DD-related mod - installed mid-playthrough? Have you tried starting a new game? An exported load order to see what else do you have installed couldn't hurt either.

 

And sometimes, it's just easier to basically euthanize your current setup if there is something woefully wrong with it, instead of trying to track down an odd issue, to no avail. A clean install with careful consideration of what mods to install usually fixes the problems, if all else fails.

[Mr Technician]

@bR4mBozZz Sorry by throwing grenade to your direction. I'm gonna post here some of my Skyrim files - how they are configured - just gonna reedit my post here. So keep up with me today. Collecting those files is gonna take me awhile...

 

@Laura 'Lokomootje' Sorry for posting it here - but i bellieve thats just the right way to actually help someone...

 

I'm posting it for you to compare your settings. My setting is shitton different than yours. Just a guess here. Also i play not in a fullscreen. It's not even a windowed mode - keep that in mind - if you will want to import my settings to your config files.?

 

I have Skyrim Legendary Edition - Steam version with addons: HearthFires, Dawnguard, Dragonborn. I have made separate folder for Steam games (default: Steam installs in Program Files in windows - it was to avoid Windows 10 problems with folder restrictions)

Also i use Skyrim Mod Organizer Classic v1.3.15 . I wont use Nexus Mod Organizer again in my life. Also i don't bellieve in v2 of Skyrim Mod Organizer which has this magic Virtualised VFS "thing" and Vortex Nexus compatibility. It always loads before starting a game - and 20% of time - fails for me. It had itself own flaws and it was to slow for me (i'm SSD disk user - so want things to work as speedy as possible) Screenshot below in spoiler.

 

And speaking of Skyrim Mod Organizer - i will also share my mod list/plugins. Take a look in a file: "plugins.txt" - as this is exact representation of the right side of my Mod Organizer window - this is my load order also.

 

There i will paste the Left side mods from Skyrim Mod Organizer - which are represented in "modlist.txt" text file and inside this file they are in REVERSE ORDER than in my Mod Organizer window. (Plus sign at beginning of each line means - it's enabled, minus sign - it's disabled.)

 

1. C:\Users\piots\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\Skyrim.ini

2. C:\Users\piots\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\SkyrimPrefs.ini

3. C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\SKSE.ini

4. C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\enblocal.ini

5. C:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\RaceMenu\SKSE\Plugins\nioverride.ini

6. C:\Games\Mod Organizer\profiles\Default\plugins.txt

7. C:\Games\Mod Organizer\profiles\Default\modlist.txt

 

a) Skyrim Mod Organizer Classic v1.3.15   &   b) Above files for view/download :

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Files here :

Skyrim.ini SkyrimPrefs.ini

SKSE.ini

enblocal.ini

nioverride.ini

plugins.txt

modlist.txt

 

 

@bR4mBozZz Having all above - you shall be able to compare or even recreate my own setup - if you have enough knowledge how to do it. Wish you Luck in your findings! ?

 

Well, thats that. I don't think i forgot any other thing to post it. All else is just a normal knowledge of more than a half year self-studies on how to work with other programs like TES5Edit, BodySlide, WryeBash (WryeSmash), game texture compressing with SMCO, also FNIS - but i shouldn't mention it - it's so  simple... And i still don't know how to use Creation Kit. I'm not a modder myself.

 

Oh! I just remebered and also wanna say thats my setup is for UNP body types. Some CBBE files at my mod list are only for compatibility purposes with mods i'm using - or gonna use in future. Decided to use UNP long ago as it is way more compatible with older mods.

[Mr Technician]

Phew... Making female races screenshots actually made me horny. I think i wanna play as female Orc, gagged and armbinded. Damn i'm going to Laura's Shop ASAP! ^.^

 

EDIT: Adding some extra here if wanna take a look and you are not familiar with Skyrim Mod Organizer.

 

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Also commenting about Left Side. As those are folders - it doesn't mean that it would be strictly a Mod. It can be a Plugin, or maybe some meshes files without Plugin (without *.esp file) - just putted in a folder - and it can have no texture or it can have only textures (*.dds files).

 

Left Side is much more complicated than Right Side - becouse it's only your free will what you want to do here and it has no limits, right? Don't be surprised if Skyrim Mod Organizer gonna show you a warning red triangle with exclamation mark. It can detect "wrong order" at your left side also. And it will let you know if you want to Fix it (theres gonna be a button to click).

 

EDIT2: Also if you are interested about my icons in MO :

 

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[Hardcorelauch]

Just played through the two unique quests and I can only say I want moooooooooooore.

I would really like something in the way of a "friendly BDSM session" for example that the Player can talk to Laura about the pleasures of being tied up and then gets invited to a bit of after Hour fun time. I would also really like another answering option at the End of the Thief quest, something along the lines of "I didn't mind the tight restraints, but I'm not quite ready to just get sold off.". I felt a bit bad for both of them and their situation, after hearing their idle chatter.

[sargent256]

I love xayah~ ❤️ and I hope you use more of her, maybe she pops up every now and then during quest, or maybe as a follower who just keeps you under a constant supple of that special potion XP

I love Laura's and katarina dynamic and their interactions, feel bad though for what ever happened to them, 

and to be truthful, almost sad I didn't get to meet this Sloane 

 

also, I don't know why but I don't have access to the seeking the curse quest even after I did the strange rock quest

[Laura]

11 hours ago, Hardcorelauch said:

Just played through the two unique quests and I can only say I want moooooooooooore.

Thank you.

More is coming, but i've put a bit too much on my plate. So it could take some time.

 

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I would really like something in the way of a "friendly BDSM session" for example that the Player can talk to Laura about the pleasures of being tied up and then gets invited to a bit of after Hour fun time.

That sounds like fun. Maybe it could replace/function like the free sets you can get.

 

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I would also really like another answering option at the End of the Thief quest, something along the lines of "I didn't mind the tight restraints, but I'm not quite ready to just get sold off.". I felt a bit bad for both of them and their situation, after hearing their idle chatter.

The "I didn't mind the tight restraints, but I'm not quite ready to just get sold off." line is really good, but I don't want to make the responses too specific.

The current "No Problem." and "You almost enslaved me!" are intentionally pretty vague, so they leave some room for you to fill in yourself.

I'll have to make a lot of responses and options if I wanted it to be this specific.

Some games have really specific responses, but I don't like it when the one I would pick isn't there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, sargent256 said:

I love xayah~ ❤️ and I hope you use more of her, maybe she pops up every now and then during quest, or maybe as a follower who just keeps you under a constant supple of that special potion XP

Xayah will make a return, but I won't tell you when.

 

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I love Laura's and katarina dynamic and their interactions, feel bad though for what ever happened to them, 

Thank you, saying that the writing made you feel something is one of the best compliments I can get.

 

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and to be truthful, almost sad I didn't get to meet this Sloane 

Maybe you'll get to meet her one day.

 

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also, I don't know why but I don't have access to the seeking the curse quest even after I did the strange rock quest

It should be available after A Strange Rock.

Are you sure that you completed it?

What are the options you see after the "Is there something I can do for you?" dialogue option?

Please open the console and type: sqv Laura_AStrangeRockQuest and tell me what it says.

[sargent256]

3 hours ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

It should be available after A Strange Rock.

Are you sure that you completed it?

What are the options you see after the "Is there something I can do for you?" dialogue option?

Please open the console and type: sqv Laura_AStrangeRockQuest and tell me what it says.

I'm sure i did, its showing it in my finished quest section. 
and what the quest state is telling me thats its current stage is at 100, its not enabled and its been stopped

here is my papyrus log if that helps

Papyrus.0.log

[Laura]

3 hours ago, sargent256 said:

I'm sure i did, its showing it in my finished quest section. 
and what the quest state is telling me thats its current stage is at 100, its not enabled and its been stopped

here is my papyrus log if that helps

Papyrus.0.log 98.62 kB · 2 downloads

 

Seeking The Curse should be available right after you complete A Strange Rock.

Since you completed it, the only things that can keep it from showing up are these 2 conditions: A Strange Rock has to be at stage 100 (The completed stage) and Seeking The Curse has to be inactive.

 

You said before that you don't have access to the quest. What do you mean?

Does she tell you to wait?

Does starting the quest not do anything?

Is the option: "Is there something I can do for you?" available when you speak to her?

Do you see the dialogue option: "I want to help gather restraints."?

 

This may be a dumb question, but are you sure that you're using the latest version?

These errors have been fixed for a while now:

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[03/31/2019 - 09:34:45AM] Cannot open store for class "SF_Laura_SecureBeltQuest_Sce_07040F5C", missing file?
[03/31/2019 - 09:34:45AM] ERROR: Unable to bind script SF_Laura_SecureBeltQuest_Sce_07040F5C to  (42040F5C) because their base types do not match

 

Also, can you check something for me? Open the console and type: help Laura_STC_CooldownGlob and let me know what it says.

[sargent256]

1 hour ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

 

You said before that you don't have access to the quest. What do you mean?

Does she tell you to wait?

Does starting the quest not do anything?

Is the option: "Is there something I can do for you?" available when you speak to her?

Do you see the dialogue option: "I want to help gather restraints."?

it just didn't show the dialogue option "i want to help gather restraints"

 

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well I have good news and bad news. 

Good news! I figured out what was wrong, my files where corrupted when my computer shut down while I was playing skyrim because of a power outage
bad news! my files where corrupted so most of my mods, and skyrim where f*cked anyways and just waiting to 'explode' on me.

just reinstalled everything and it all in working order~ thanks for the help, heh sorry about all this....

[Mr Technician]

15 hours ago, sargent256 said:

it just didn't show the dialogue option "i want to help gather restraints"

 

........

 

well I have good news and bad news. 

Good news! I figured out what was wrong, my files where corrupted when my computer shut down while I was playing skyrim because of a power outage
bad news! my files where corrupted so most of my mods, and skyrim where f*cked anyways and just waiting to 'explode' on me.

just reinstalled everything and it all in working order~ thanks for the help, heh sorry about all this....

I hear you brother. I was using this magical SSHD - Seagate Firecuda 2,5" 2TB - which is a hybrid drive. It is HDD + SSD. I had no power outtage but i was just working on my laptop and decided to play some games to relax. So i have downloaded and copied them on my desktop, than played and didn't know that my SSHD just turned my laptop off becouse i went out of home for a walk. The result was - i have lost the game i have downloaded, the save files - it was as there were never any files - even Piriform Recuva didn't found anything. Now this SSHD technology is very risky and i have decided to go back to SSD drive and using my SSHD as external usb drive - for non important data keeping.

I don't know for sure if i have defective SSHD drive - becouse it has own firmware to manage this 8 GB cache. It can't be even turned off by any program. So keep in mind if wanna use one of those too.

[Laura]

20 hours ago, sargent256 said:

it just didn't show the dialogue option "i want to help gather restraints"

 

........

 

well I have good news and bad news. 

Good news! I figured out what was wrong, my files where corrupted when my computer shut down while I was playing skyrim because of a power outage
bad news! my files where corrupted so most of my mods, and skyrim where f*cked anyways and just waiting to 'explode' on me.

just reinstalled everything and it all in working order~ thanks for the help, heh sorry about all this....

No problem, it's good to hear that's it's working again.

One thing though. When you're reporting a problem, please give us as much relevant information as you can find. Saying "It doesn't work" doesn't tell me much. That's why I bombarded you with questions.

Anyway, have fun.

[Taki17]

A small thing I found:

 

Some characters involved in STC - Akali, Argnir, Dunan, Bodnna - have mismatched face and body skin tones. Their facegendata doesn't seem to be exported.

[Laura]

3 hours ago, Taki17 said:

A small thing I found:

 

Some characters involved in STC - Akali, Argnir, Dunan, Bodnna - have mismatched face and body skin tones. Their facegendata doesn't seem to be exported.

Good catch.

I thought I fixed, I either did something wrong or I forgot to put the new files in the download.

I'll take a look at it. Thanks for the heads-up.

[sargent256]

6 hours ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

No problem, it's good to hear that's it's working again.

One thing though. When you're reporting a problem, please give us as much relevant information as you can find. Saying "It doesn't work" doesn't tell me much. That's why I bombarded you with questions.

Anyway, have fun.

of course, I'll keep that in mind next time, thanks for the help~
love the mod 

[Mister X]

Hey @Laura 'Lokomootje',

it's been awhile since the last update. Maybe we could get a little sneak peek of the next big things that you're working on? Pretty please? 

[Laura]

On 4/2/2019 at 6:17 PM, Mister X said:

Hey @Laura 'Lokomootje',

it's been awhile since the last update. Maybe we could get a little sneak peek of the next big things that you're working on? Pretty please? 

A sneak peek is coming soon^tm.