Devious Devices - Laura's Bondage Shop (16-aug-2025) v3.55 LE & SE

[Laura]

On 1/11/2023 at 2:30 PM, Pheanial said:

laura and katarina are stuck at the mountain pass after the dream sequence. im on version 3.41 se playing on ae.

Try loading a previous save and try again. If that doesn't work, please post the papyrus log.

[Pheanial]

34 minutes ago, Laura said:

Try loading a previous save and try again. If that doesn't work, please post the papyrus log.

didn't have a previous save to roll back to. where can i find papyrus logs?

quick edit, im using MO2 if that matters.

Edited January 13, 2023 by Pheanial

[Laura]

6 minutes ago, Pheanial said:

didn't have a previous save to roll back to. where can i find papyrus logs?

quick edit, im using MO2 if that matters.

Check this link. But after you do that, you'll have to play through that part again to get the log.

It's important that I know if a bug is reproducable. It could just be Skyrim being weird or a random script lag thing.

[Pheanial]

18 minutes ago, Laura said:

Check this link. But after you do that, you'll have to play through that part again to get the log.

It's important that I know if a bug is reproducable. It could just be Skyrim being weird or a random script lag thing.

okay. i'll run through the mod again once my current save isn't wrapped up in stuff from another mod. i do recall talking to laura during the mountain pass section and her bringing up her normal dialogue tree.

[Laura]

1 hour ago, Pheanial said:

okay. i'll run through the mod again once my current save isn't wrapped up in stuff from another mod. i do recall talking to laura during the mountain pass section and her bringing up her normal dialogue tree.

Let me know how it goes.

[Laura]

Version 3.42 is here!

 

It's a small update with fixes and stuff. Not that exciting.

Thank you all so much for the amazing feedback and comments. Y'all are the best. ❤️

 

 

Anyway, here's the changelog for version 3.42: (Spoiler warning for those that haven't played it yet)

Spoiler

Fixed: [A Familiar Face & Taking Control] These quests had parts where fast travel was disabled but the code was shit so it sometimes wasn't disabled.
It now properly disables fast travel when needed, which solves bugs that were caused by timing issues.
Thanks to IBAGadget for the feedback.

 

Changed: [Taking Control] The clue on the stool by the lake isn't right next to a rock anymore.
It wasn't clearly visible from a distance and it was pretty much hidden when you approached from the other side. It should stand out a bit more.

 

Changed: [Taking Control] I forgot to lock the Thotium display case after the quest. Oops.
Thanks to Nicoya for pointing it out.

 

Fixed: [Taking Control] For the letter after the quest, I changed the font for SE compatibility. There was also a ❤️ at the end that didn't work. It now displays as it should.
Thanks to aurreth and HexBolt8 for the help.

 

Fixed: [A Familiar Face & Seeking The Curse] A few instances of unequipping code that I messed up. I still don't understand how it somehow worked most of the time. Maybe DD has a failsafe for idiots like me.
Either way, it's fixed now.
Thanks to Slagblah for pointing it out.

 

 

EDIT:

The SE version is also available! We didn't coordinate this, aurreth was insanely fast.

Edited January 13, 2023 by Laura

[aurreth]

39 minutes ago, Laura said:

The SE version is also available! We didn't coordinate this, aurreth was insanely fast.

 

Just happened the 8 hour time difference overlapped in our favor ?

[darkfender666]

On 1/12/2023 at 6:47 PM, CaptainJ03 said:

Uhm, yes. Use Agent Orange. (try the console and type tg - Toggle Grass, and if that doesn't help, maybe even tt - toggle trees)

 

are you sure you're walking the right lake in the right direction?

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Lake Geir, northeast of Geirmund's Hall, before you reach Nilheim

 

 

Maybe disable your enhanced anything. Everyone else needs to disable Cursed Loot and stuff, why not this time another mod? ☕

i definitely followed the wrong path..

But the hints points at the waterfall and the waterfall is the other way.

 

Completed the mod and its awesome.

[Urbinepto]

Hello! I'd like to report a vanishing Katarina. I go do the What she deserves Solitude quest, and when I come bacl, Katarina isn't at Laura's and I can't advance the quest.

[Escanordico]

Hi Laura, 

 

Thanks for your work! Following it since long ago.

 

It is possible to ask for the version 3.41 because it's required for a modlist I'm trying to reinstall.

Only if it's possible, if not I'll wait for the modlist to be updated.

 

Again, thanks and sorry for all inconveniences! 

[aurreth]

21 minutes ago, Escanordico said:

Hi Laura, 

 

Thanks for your work! Following it since long ago.

 

It is possible to ask for the version 3.41 because it's required for a modlist I'm trying to reinstall.

Only if it's possible, if not I'll wait for the modlist to be updated.

 

Again, thanks and sorry for all inconveniences! 

 

Please go back and read the thread.  Outdated versions are not being kept.  That will only lead to pages and pages of bug reports for things that have already been fixed.  The proper approach, as posted a few pages back by the people who actually maintain the modlists, is to go to the maintainer and ask them to update to the latest version. 

 

OR simply download 3.42, unzip it, and manually copy it to your install directory.  No names have been changed, nor has there been any change in requirements or dependencies.  As long as you aren't in the middle of an LBS quest you can safely copy the new version right over the top of the old.

 

[Urbinepto]

Hi. reporting another bug: if anyone is using that one mod that makes npcs very eager and come to you can you have dialog options such as "yes" "intimidate" "persuade" "brawl", whetevr your reply, it seems to break the script of the start of the quest where you have to go to the cave with Katarina.

 

After the "thank you", Laura doesn't put the chains on the Dragonborn and just wanders around the shop.

 

EDIT: here's how I solved it. If you have the quest not launching, simply go back to desktop and fire up Skyrim again (obviously through skese though mo2/vortex whatever you're using). I'm not a programmer, but apparently that restart resets stuff.

Edited January 13, 2023 by Urbinepto
Possible solution.

[aurreth]

I actually found a minor error in the SE version:  the weapon record for Glemme's sword is missing a NULL reference.  This doesn't affect anything apparently, but I'll try to remember to fix it for the next release.

 

 

[Uncontrollableabyss]

@LauraJust wanted so say thanks. Thanks for the great story. By far my favorite quest mod.

[IBAGadget]

1 hour ago, asianbicdic said:

Could you provide version 341 as I was installing Licentia Black and it doesn't work with the newly updated version. 

See aurreth's post a little further up this page.

 

You would be farther ahead to contact the curator of Licentia Black and have them update their package.

Edited January 14, 2023 by IBAGadget

[Escanordico]

1 hour ago, Taki17 said:

Oh for fucks sake. @Laura I'd recommend not accomodating every request to reuplod a previous version due to a discrepancy between current version number and the one included in the mod pack they are using. So if your mod has made it into a mod pack/list/whatever (congratulations?), every time you push a new version, expect these goblin clowns to crawl out of the woodwork and ask for previous versions, despite the mod list authors explicitly asking them not to harrass modders. Happened in many other threads too.

No need to insult the others. Don't be a child.

And thanks Aurreth, I'm gonna try that

Edited January 14, 2023 by Escanordico
spelling error

[Laura]

11 hours ago, Urbinepto said:

Hello! I'd like to report a vanishing Katarina. I go do the What she deserves Solitude quest, and when I come bacl, Katarina isn't at Laura's and I can't advance the quest.

I don't move her or anything in that quests. She's in the same spot the whole time. So I don't know how this could happen.

Do you have mods that take control of npcs?

 

 

 

 

11 hours ago, Escanordico said:

Hi Laura, 

 

Thanks for your work! Following it since long ago.

Thanks.

 

11 hours ago, Escanordico said:

It is possible to ask for the version 3.41 because it's required for a modlist I'm trying to reinstall.

Only if it's possible, if not I'll wait for the modlist to be updated.

 

Again, thanks and sorry for all inconveniences! 

I don't want to upload a version with issues that have already been solved. Sorry.

By the way, how does that modlist work? Does it just refuse to work when it sees a different mod version?

 

 

 

 

9 hours ago, Uncontrollableabyss said:

@LauraJust wanted so say thanks. Thanks for the great story. By far my favorite quest mod.

Thank you so much.

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Taki17 said:

Oh for fucks sake. @Laura I'd recommend not accomodating every request to reuplod a previous version due to a discrepancy between current version number and the one included in the mod pack they are using. So if your mod has made it into a mod pack/list/whatever (congratulations?), every time you push a new version, expect these goblin clowns to crawl out of the woodwork and ask for previous versions, despite the mod list authors explicitly asking them not to harrass modders. Happened in many other threads too.

Wasn't planning to. By the way, what do you have against goblins? Goblins got me a lot of combat lvls back in the day.

Edited January 14, 2023 by Laura

[Escanordico]

7 minutes ago, Laura said:

I don't want to upload a version with issues that have already been solved. Sorry.

By the way, how does that modlist work? Does it just refuse to work when it sees a different mod version?

Hi again Laura, fair enough that motive 

 

If it's for me, I also prefer to play and work with updated mods. In this case was just kind of bad luck, I was reinstalling one modlist at the same moment you updated the mod. ?Because I was swapping from Anniversary to my beloved Special Edition (why the hell did I installed it LOL, it's like when I see a new Pringles flavour I need to try it, same happens when I see a new version of Skyrim).

 

Coming back to topic, I'm using Wabbajack, it ask for a download, and if the name does not match the one Wabbajack demands then the installation crashes,
 

Anyways, I was aiming to start a new game, and if it's less buggy and improved, then better. As stated before, I follow your work since long ago, so your quests will be a must, I'm sure it's really worth the wait.

Please, receive a big hug from Spain, and keep on rockin'!

 

And... we are no goblins, we are Rieklings!

 

 

[criminaltango44]

Wabbajack knows if the metadata the same or different so changing the name wouldnt do anything. so yeah until the author updates the modlist or you get the old version its just not possible to install the modlist.

 

which is unfortunate if youve just downloaded 200gbs of the modlist id say.

[alchbrechten]

Hey @Laura, thanks for the mod and continued support here!

I've used it in my own modlists at some point, I really like mods with "integrated" content, when you have a quality-level quest to present the intended functionality, and then it becomes the point of the mod on top of everything else. I think such approach is way better than classical "here's the mod, use commands if you want anything, gl"

 

I've decided to go back to modding and wanted to try the famous modlists. So ran into the same issue, and I think nasty goblins will disappear if they find *some* soultion to the problem, and I think there is one.

 

IIRC Wabbajack's idea of manual download is "somehow getting the target file, whatever man", so you either DL it via the Wabbajack itself, or find it yourself and throw into download folder. Not uploading outdated content with bugs is the only correct thing to do; but perhaps you could upload it to drive or mega, or just drop it here for poor modlist souls that *want* to enjouy the buggy content?

I mean, at least the goblins would see themselves out xd

 

Cheers!

[CaptainJ03]

45 minutes ago, alchbrechten said:

but perhaps you could upload it to drive or mega, or just drop it here for poor modlist souls that *want* to enjouy the buggy content?

I mean, at least the goblins would see themselves out xd

bloody hell: No!

 

I don't remember if it was in this thread when the last update came, but someone who curates a wabbajack list apologised for the behaviour of his goblins. They are humans and need their time to be aware of such an update, and maybe live in another time zone. But the goblins come whining within hours, faster than anyone can keep track of updated mods.

The only real solution would be: Don't bloody use bloody collections, You are grown up and learned to read and write, so maintain your modlist yourself - or be quiet.

[Laura]

2 hours ago, Escanordico said:

Hi again Laura, fair enough that motive 

 

If it's for me, I also prefer to play and work with updated mods. In this case was just kind of bad luck, I was reinstalling one modlist at the same moment you updated the mod. ?Because I was swapping from Anniversary to my beloved Special Edition (why the hell did I installed it LOL, it's like when I see a new Pringles flavour I need to try it, same happens when I see a new version of Skyrim).

 

Coming back to topic, I'm using Wabbajack, it ask for a download, and if the name does not match the one Wabbajack demands then the installation crashes,
 

Anyways, I was aiming to start a new game, and if it's less buggy and improved, then better. As stated before, I follow your work since long ago, so your quests will be a must, I'm sure it's really worth the wait.

Please, receive a big hug from Spain, and keep on rockin'!

 

And... we are no goblins, we are Rieklings!

Thanks for the info and a big hug from the Netherlands.

 

 

 

 

46 minutes ago, alchbrechten said:

Hey @Laura, thanks for the mod and continued support here!

I've used it in my own modlists at some point, I really like mods with "integrated" content, when you have a quality-level quest to present the intended functionality, and then it becomes the point of the mod on top of everything else. I think such approach is way better than classical "here's the mod, use commands if you want anything, gl"

❤️

 

46 minutes ago, alchbrechten said:

I've decided to go back to modding and wanted to try the famous modlists. So ran into the same issue, and I think nasty goblins will disappear if they find *some* soultion to the problem, and I think there is one.

So my mod is in a famous modlist? That's awesome.

 

46 minutes ago, alchbrechten said:

IIRC Wabbajack's idea of manual download is "somehow getting the target file, whatever man", so you either DL it via the Wabbajack itself, or find it yourself and throw into download folder.

How do you download it through Wabbajack? Is it through a reupload? Cuz that's not allowed.

 

46 minutes ago, alchbrechten said:

Not uploading outdated content with bugs is the only correct thing to do; but perhaps you could upload it to drive or mega, or just drop it here for poor modlist souls that *want* to enjouy the buggy content?

I mean, at least the goblins would see themselves out xd

I'm also not gonna post it in the thread. I don't want people playing with an outdated version at all. I don't want people to report stuff that's already fixed. That's really confusing.

 

46 minutes ago, alchbrechten said:

Cheers!

Cheers!

[alchbrechten]

5 minutes ago, Laura said:

So my mod is in a famous modlist? That's awesome.

 

 

Yeah, and I believe that not in just one

 

5 minutes ago, Laura said:

How do you download it through Wabbajack? Is it through a reupload? Cuz that's not allowed

 

It basically opens up a browser window and tells which file to download. This time there's a lack of old file, and modlist is stupid and doesn't realize it's a newer version  

Can't tell it to do so unless  the author does it himself, people probably let them know already

 

6 minutes ago, Laura said:

I'm also not gonna post it in the thread. I don't want people playing with an outdated version at all. I don't want people to report stuff that's already fixed. That's really confusing.

 

 

More than reasonable, and thanks for letting people know the reason for this!

[Laura]

2 minutes ago, alchbrechten said:

Yeah, and I believe that not in just one

I guess that's a good thing.

 

2 minutes ago, alchbrechten said:

It basically opens up a browser window and tells which file to download. This time there's a lack of old file, and modlist is stupid and doesn't realize it's a newer version  

Can't tell it to do so unless  the author does it himself, people probably let them know already

So it just redirects you here? That's fine.

 

2 minutes ago, alchbrechten said:

More than reasonable, and thanks for letting people know the reason for this!

❤️

[Cornoholio]

Arrows not working - I am trying to find Dynane for hanf an hour now, no idea where the cemetqary of falkreath's at, nevermind north of it. Please implement objectiove markers, searching sucks.