sse Paradise Halls Enhanced (pahe) Special Edition with the customary addons

[TrollAutokill]

1 hour ago, CliftonJD said:

if you're triggering the enslave slave perk by doing that, the slave faction is recognized true, but something else is also recognized true....my guess for that combination of commands would be paralysis

an idea might be to use the donothing packages, pahe makes use of the skyrim donothing package and an additional package special to pahe

Mmm. I will check the conditions on the perk and come back to you if I see something weird.

[jakeslu]

On 4/12/2021 at 5:27 PM, dirty said:

So updated to the latest version.

restarted PAHE everything working as before, but have a question.

 

I have noticed for a while now, that poses are not working.

 

stand here (the first) results in the kneel with hands behind head, but all others don't do anything

no dancing

no graceful dancing etc.,

am i perhaps missing an animation pack or something else?

 

 

 

Just figure it out yesterday  . For that you need FNIS Spell. Go to nexus FNIS mod, click "files" and download/install  FNIS spells. Hope this helps.

 

 I also have a quick question. I read somewhere (not sure if i need another mod), that my followers can sex with PAHE slaves if their (my followers') arousal is too high. Like automatically initialize sex scene between my followers and my pahe slaves. Thanks

 

And to give kudos, this is an awesome mod!!! Thanks

[Nonseen]

Test report 01 For the PAHE 7.5.7

 

Note: i not finished my planned full test this is only scrach in the mod!

Note2: i put here only the strange things i found

Note3: uploaded 3 log tath contain errors from pahe, this may or may not revelant

 

Tested mod file:
PAHE 7.5.7
realised: 2021-04-14

 

Found errors and questions:

 

00-pahe first start - Question/papayrus error

Spoiler

2 error message observed in start up full log in -this is normal?

Start_log.log

this log from new game start.

 

this log part from the first reload of the game, to me seems same error maybe first time pahe init not run well? :

 

[04/15/2021 - 08:58:07AM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to pahslave[]
stack:
    [PAH (0B01FAEF)].pahcore.GetSlaveArrayLength() - "PAHCore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0B01FAEF)].pahcore.updateSlaveArray() - "PAHCore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0B01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveArray() - "PAHCore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0B01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveMaintenance() - "PAHCore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0B01FAEF)].pahcore.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "PAHCore.psc" Line ?
    [alias Player on quest PAH (0B01FAEF)].pahplayerscript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "PAHPlayerScript.psc" Line ?
[04/15/2021 - 08:58:07AM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to String[]
stack:
    [PAH (0B01FAEF)].pahcore.GetStringArrayLength() - "PAHCore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0B01FAEF)].pahcore.updateSlaveArray() - "PAHCore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0B01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveArray() - "PAHCore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0B01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveMaintenance() - "PAHCore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0B01FAEF)].pahcore.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "PAHCore.psc" Line ?
    [alias Player on quest PAH (0B01FAEF)].pahplayerscript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "PAHPlayerScript.psc" Line ?

 

08- strip/put your clothes options - Failed/bug

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A-strip function: removed armor items, siheld,wepon-passed

 

B-puting back clothes put back wepon, boots, gloves, wepon, main chest pice not -Fail
B1-removed audi overhaul,unp famele boudy renewal nothing changed
B2-after capture saved, quited, reloaded -not fixed the error
B3-quicksave,quick reload - not fixed the error

 

C-papyrus error check:

For B,B1,B2,B3 test nothing found in papyrus log log is empty

 

16- slave in combat and after combat - Failed! Bug/anmaly detected/papayrus error

Spoiler

A-Slave in 10 sec combat with 0 combat experience and subbmision 5 get +1 combat traning

 

A1-after combat punished "next time you fight or get punisshed" dialoge, combat traning rised 20 -passed

 

A2-after combat punished via restrain - no change in combat traning observed, can be punished agin 
-using sex as secund punishment, combat training rised to 15, sextraining to 6, can be punished agin!
-using sex as third punishment, combat traning rised to 27,sextraning to 11, no more punishemnt

 

A3-after combat punished using sex, sex traning incrased to 6, comabt training no change, can be punished agin for not fighting - this is okay:
after punished via sex, punished agin for not fighting with pain:
changed comabt traning 30, subbmision 27 from 12

 

A4-dialoge chosing pain punishemnt:
-applaying brutal pian punishemnt 3 times slave near dies
-slave can punished agin for not fighting, slave info not show any change immidiate after punishment -Script LAG?
-after waiting while slave stats changed combat training rised 30,subbmision changed,slave can be punished agin
-after using dialoge option: "next time you will fight or get punished" can be punished agin for nto fighting!
at this point combat traning rised 44, subbmision 27
waited a bit and readed slave info option to punish agin for not fighting removed

 

 

B- After quiting from game to check papyrus logs fallowing pahe related found:
[04/15/2021 - 09:50:13AM] ERROR: Cannot call EquipInventory() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [PAHPersonalityEvenToned (0B02C44D)].PAHPunishmentRapeScript.reEquip() - "PAHPunishmentRapeScript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHPersonalityEvenToned (0B02C44D)].PAHPunishmentRapeScript.PostFornicate() - "PAHPunishmentRapeScript.psc" Line ?
this happened in time near the sex punishment

 

 

C-at this point i stoped testing this functions until clerification/conformation:

C1-how should work?

C2-this is bug i found or something i messed up?

 

20- slave stoping to escape via talk - question

Spoiler

A-used dialoge option punishemnt, pain: - question
lave continue runing until damage appalyed this is normal? 

 

B-used dialoge dont run away or get truble:- passed
give 10 subbmision slave stop runaway 

 

C-sex punishemnt for escape: - passed
after sex slave started fallow player, give +3 sex and 9 subbmision traning
 

 

Game test everiment and methoods:

Testing with new character:

Spoiler

new game, settup the mcm menu evry component, save and quit,reload game, mara statue, patreon of local in->sleeping giant inn.

Start_log.log

this log from first start

 

Mods in use:

Spoiler

Load order and used priamry plugins, witout pahe:
(This build up tested only few error message encountered, this erros considered normal)

    [0]    Skyrim.esm
    [1]    Update.esm
    [2]    Dawnguard.esm
    [3]    HearthFires.esm
    [4]    Dragonborn.esm
    [5]    Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
    [6]    FISS.esp
    [7]    Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
    [8]    ZaZAnimationPack.esm
    [9]    SexLab.esm
    [10]    SexLabAroused.esm
    [11]    SkyUI_SE.esp
    [12]    Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp
    [13]    UIExtensions.esp
    [14]    FNIS.esp
    [15]    Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
    [16]    SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
    [17]    FNISspells.esp
    [18]    SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
    [19]    TDF_AP_IndHookersPlug_In.esp
    [20]    RaceMenu.esp
    [21]    RaceMenuPlugin.esp
    [22]    SLAnimLoader.esp
    [23]    SOSRaceMenu.esp
    [24]    XPMSE.esp
    [25]    SLALAnimObj.esp
    [26]    Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

 

other mods not shown in the list:
fnis creature pack
fnis spells
jcontainers
skyui savegame fix
UNP Femaleboudy renewal
CBPC-CBP physicis with collosiuon
zaz 8 rev2 unp version
zaz alternate pillories
TDF independet prostitutes legendary SE
SL expressions

 

other skse mod not listed here:
mfg fix
papyrusutil
papyrusutil extended
file acces interface (FISS)
consoleutil
skse adress libary
archivment mods enabler
EZ2C Dialoge menu
Dislaply Enemy Level
more informative console
fuz do roh

 

Total 36 mod active(included SKSE 2.0.17)

 

PAHE esp active:

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paradise_halls
paradise_halls_SLExtension
paradise_halls_felglow_slave_camp
paradise_halls_ferangar_study
paradise_halls_lakviewmanor
paradise_hallsAlternateStart
PAHE-TDF-Patch

 

Logs:
Start_log.log

Test-001-3slaveCapture-Embersahardmine.log

Test-003-slave not fighting punishment test.log

[pinky6225]

question on 7.5.7 - moves the pahe folder from the bsa to help with renamer issues

 

Can see the PAHE folder in the install but it has a lot less in it than the one that was in the .bsa, are the race specific names no longer available?

[HannoJojo]

18 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

Quote

Since I'm a Vampire (using BetterVampires) a messagebox pops up with the choice between "Feed" and "Talk <Name>" but selecting talk just closes the box. If I cure myself from Vampirism activating the npc does nothing at all.

 

retry that with this latest update

 

Only did a quick test since I don't have time to play Skyrim much at the moment anyway, so I only tested it with an existing slave and didn't use HSH to "reload" him into a slot.

The Better Vampire popup didn't show anymore, but it would still not let me interact with a restrained NPC at all. After activating it still no dialogue shows up, nor any other kind of reaction to the activation. 
Also only tested the default restraints if that does matter in any kind.

[mikesolo1975]

thanks again for the new update ?

[CliftonJD]

4 hours ago, Nonseen said:

00-pahe first start - Question/papayrus error

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2 error message observed in start up full log in -this is normal?

Start_log.log 3.11 kB · 0 downloads

this log from new game start.

 

this log part from the first reload of the game, to me seems same error maybe first time pahe init not run well? :

 

[04/15/2021 - 08:58:07AM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to pahslave[]
stack:
    [PAH (0B01FAEF)].pahcore.GetSlaveArrayLength() - "PAHCore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0B01FAEF)].pahcore.updateSlaveArray() - "PAHCore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0B01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveArray() - "PAHCore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0B01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveMaintenance() - "PAHCore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0B01FAEF)].pahcore.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "PAHCore.psc" Line ?
    [alias Player on quest PAH (0B01FAEF)].pahplayerscript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "PAHPlayerScript.psc" Line ?
[04/15/2021 - 08:58:07AM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to String[]
stack:
    [PAH (0B01FAEF)].pahcore.GetStringArrayLength() - "PAHCore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0B01FAEF)].pahcore.updateSlaveArray() - "PAHCore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0B01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveArray() - "PAHCore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0B01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveMaintenance() - "PAHCore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0B01FAEF)].pahcore.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "PAHCore.psc" Line ?
    [alias Player on quest PAH (0B01FAEF)].pahplayerscript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "PAHPlayerScript.psc" Line ?

that's the same as your previous report, still no known solution to that

4 hours ago, Nonseen said:

After quiting from game to check papyrus logs fallowing pahe related found:
[04/15/2021 - 09:50:13AM] ERROR: Cannot call EquipInventory() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [PAHPersonalityEvenToned (0B02C44D)].PAHPunishmentRapeScript.reEquip() - "PAHPunishmentRapeScript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHPersonalityEvenToned (0B02C44D)].PAHPunishmentRapeScript.PostFornicate() - "PAHPunishmentRapeScript.psc" Line ?
this happened in time near the sex punishment

its a weird bug sl has re-equipping the slaves after sex, remember that's why the strip and redress dialogs were added

4 hours ago, Nonseen said:

A-used dialoge option punishemnt, pain: - question
lave continue runing until damage appalyed this is normal? 

yes, sometimes they're more defiant and need additional punishment/training

 

[CliftonJD]

7 hours ago, jakeslu said:

 

Just figure it out yesterday  . For that you need FNIS Spell. Go to nexus FNIS mod, click "files" and download/install  FNIS spells. Hope this helps.

 

 I also have a quick question. I read somewhere (not sure if i need another mod), that my followers can sex with PAHE slaves if their (my followers') arousal is too high. Like automatically initialize sex scene between my followers and my pahe slaves. Thanks

 

And to give kudos, this is an awesome mod!!! Thanks

that's a feature of home sweet home

3 hours ago, pinky6225 said:

question on 7.5.7 - moves the pahe folder from the bsa to help with renamer issues

 

Can see the PAHE folder in the install but it has a lot less in it than the one that was in the .bsa, are the race specific names no longer available?

well that's odd...np tho, i'll fix that and repost

2 hours ago, HannoJojo said:

Only did a quick test since I don't have time to play Skyrim much at the moment anyway, so I only tested it with an existing slave and didn't use HSH to "reload" him into a slot.

The Better Vampire popup didn't show anymore, but it would still not let me interact with a restrained NPC at all. After activating it still no dialogue shows up, nor any other kind of reaction to the activation. 
Also only tested the default restraints if that does matter in any kind.

i don't know yet if diary effects those results and even without diary you might need to reload a save from last week to fix this bug

1 hour ago, mikesolo1975 said:

thanks again for the new update ?

welcome

[CliftonJD]

3 hours ago, pinky6225 said:

question on 7.5.7 - moves the pahe folder from the bsa to help with renamer issues

 

Can see the PAHE folder in the install but it has a lot less in it than the one that was in the .bsa, are the race specific names no longer available?

fixed

[TrollAutokill]

52 minutes ago, CliftonJD said:

fixed

 

52 minutes ago, CliftonJD said:

fixed

 

Could that be why the rename function was not working anymore in 7.5.7?

[pinky6225]

59 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

 

 

Could that be why the rename function was not working anymore in 7.5.7?

 

It did work while in a cell (i tried in darklight tower) but didnt seem to work while out in the world, with the PAHE folder as loose file not in the .bsa it does seem to work all the time but it is a mystery why it didnt read it from the .bsa tbh

[Faustling]

I am starting a new game and would like to include Paradise Halls, but I would also like to include one or more of these mods, which involve sweeping changes:

 

The People of Skyrim

Cutting Room Floor

Open Cities

JK's Skyrim

Immersive Citizens

 

These are all said to be great mods, but they have conflicts with each other, and I have to assume, with Paradise Halls as well? I would be most grateful if anyone who has experienced conflicts with PA would let me know, and likewise if you have had  no conflicts with these mods.

 

[TrollAutokill]

On 4/15/2021 at 4:42 PM, TrollAutokill said:

 

 

Could that be why the rename function was not working anymore in 7.5.7?

So most tied slaves glitches seem gone now.

 

I have one remaining: slaves unequip their ropes after loading game or just randomly. They stay tied though but their arms move down.

[CliftonJD]

2 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

So most tied slaves glitches seem gone now.

 

I have one remaining: slaves unequip their ropes after loading game or just randomly. They stay tied though but their arms move down.

ropes are the easiest to escape from so that could be what's getting ready to happen. once they've remove their ropes, it will likely go thru the CanChangeStates() and CanRunAway()

 

for best results you can forge iron cuffs, at the forge under miscellaneous category, that are inescapable

On 4/15/2021 at 9:42 AM, TrollAutokill said:

 

 

Could that be why the rename function was not working anymore in 7.5.7?

renamer was weird about reading that folder from the bsa, sometimes it worked fine and other times it wouldn't so that's why it was moved out the bsa

[Pinute]

22 hours ago, Faustling said:

I am starting a new game and would like to include Paradise Halls, but I would also like to include one or more of these mods, which involve sweeping changes:

 

The People of Skyrim

Cutting Room Floor

Open Cities

JK's Skyrim

Immersive Citizens

 

These are all said to be great mods, but they have conflicts with each other, and I have to assume, with Paradise Halls as well? I would be most grateful if anyone who has experienced conflicts with PA would let me know, and likewise if you have had  no conflicts with these mods.

 

 

I hunt nexus for patches and do some of my own, and none of the above should have any issues with paradise halls itself. PAH only edits a few vanilla dialogues and I've only seen one mod that needed patching. Load PAH below USSEP and in most every case you'll be fine.

 

An easy way to see what's conflicting with a particular mod is load your game load order into xEdit, right click the mod you're interested in and select Apply Filter to show Conflicts (selected files only). xEdit will show you the plugin's conflicts in a few seconds. DON'T select Apply Filter to show Conflicts unless you've got something else to do (4-7 minutes for me).

[Faustling]

55 minutes ago, PInute said:

 

I hunt nexus for patches and do some of my own, and none of the above should have any issues with paradise halls itself. PAH only edits a few vanilla dialogues and I've only seen one mod that needed patching. Load PAH below USSEP and in most every case you'll be fine.

 

An easy way to see what's conflicting with a particular mod is load your game load order into xEdit, right click the mod you're interested in and select Apply Filter to show Conflicts (selected files only). xEdit will show you the plugin's conflicts in a few seconds. DON'T select Apply Filter to show Conflicts unless you've got something else to do (4-7 minutes for me).

 

Thanks. This is off-topic, but do you know if any of the other mods I listed are compatible with The People of Skyrim? That's the one I'm particularly worried about.

[lolw0t]

Hey folks,

 

Ive been trying to work this out for a while now, so maybe Im a bit dim.  I have PAHE, AYGAS and HSH.  When casting the slave info spell on a slave that has been made to stay in a home, all the stats are 0.000000.  Is this normal?  Its been like this for a long while, so nothing to do with the latest and greatest version of PAHE.  The slaves do have stats when I look in HSH, but Im wondering if HSH or even AYGAS is speaking to Pahe correctly?  HSH and AYGAS detect each other.

 

Cheers

 

[Pinute]

8 hours ago, Faustling said:

 

Thanks. This is off-topic, but do you know if any of the other mods I listed are compatible with The People of Skyrim? That's the one I'm particularly worried about.

 

NPC mods by definition conflict with other mods  

 

I just looked at people of skyrim on nexus, and I'd like to expand on the above. This mod is going to conflict with a *lot* of stuff such as npc appearance mods, quest changing ones, npcs being able to walk places (navmeshing), and more. The page's fine print mentions it's not compatible with immersive citizens (navmesh almost certainly). This is one of those overhauls that you abandon cherished mods for and build your game world around, probably spending a fair bit of time collecting lots of patches.

 

edited to mention abandoning cherished mods.

 

[Faustling]

9 hours ago, lolw0t said:

Hey folks,

 

Ive been trying to work this out for a while now, so maybe Im a bit dim.  I have PAHE, AYGAS and HSH.  When casting the slave info spell on a slave that has been made to stay in a home, all the stats are 0.000000.  Is this normal?  Its been like this for a long while, so nothing to do with the latest and greatest version of PAHE.  The slaves do have stats when I look in HSH, but Im wondering if HSH or even AYGAS is speaking to Pahe correctly?  HSH and AYGAS detect each other.

 

Cheers

 

 

I have a bunch of slaves in Lakeview Manor. I converted the basement into a slave training facility. Their subdual does not change unless you do something to them. Leaving them tied up all the time raises the subdual a small amount every day, and they also get pose training. Punishment can raise subdual quickly. It also affects anger and fear. Nothing raises love except sex. Not too sure how respect works; I have them calling me "my lord", and obeying everything with a "yes sir!", and still respect is zero. Well trained slaves are worth more, but not a whole lot more, and you can usually find a  buyer for untrained ones if you look around.

[TrollAutokill]

10 hours ago, lolw0t said:

Hey folks,

 

Ive been trying to work this out for a while now, so maybe Im a bit dim.  I have PAHE, AYGAS and HSH.  When casting the slave info spell on a slave that has been made to stay in a home, all the stats are 0.000000.  Is this normal?  Its been like this for a long while, so nothing to do with the latest and greatest version of PAHE.  The slaves do have stats when I look in HSH, but Im wondering if HSH or even AYGAS is speaking to Pahe correctly?  HSH and AYGAS detect each other.

 

Cheers

 

 

The slave info spell from PAHE won't work with HSH or AYGAS. HSH comes with its own version of the spell. Make sure HSH is installed last.

 

I will make a spell version that works on every NPC like the one in HSH, but for DoM. We can ask CliftonJD if it would make sense to have it included in PAHE.

[Faustling]

7 hours ago, PInute said:

 

NPC mods by definition conflict with other mods  

 

I just looked at people of skyrim on nexus, and I'd like to expand on the above. This mod is going to conflict with a *lot* of stuff such as npc appearance mods, quest changing ones, npcs being able to walk places (navmeshing), and more. The page's fine print mentions it's not compatible with immersive citizens (navmesh almost certainly). This is one of those overhauls that you abandon cherished mods for and build your game world around, probably spending a fair bit of time collecting lots of patches.

 

edited to mention abandoning cherished mods.

 

 

This is weird. My virus check identified SE Stack Dump Checker as an exploit and promptly quarantined it. But looking inside the .bat, I don't see anything wrong:

 

 

@echo off
findstr /m /C:"Dumping stack" "C:\Users\%USERNAME%\Documents\My Games\Skyrim Special Edition\Logs\Script\papyrus.*.log"
if %errorlevel%==0 (>NUL powershell "(new-object -COM WScript.Shell).popup('You Had a STACK DUMP, the line in the cmd window tells you which log.')") else (>NUL powershell "(new-object -COM WScript.Shell).popup('all ok!')")

 

[CliftonJD]

5 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

 

The slave info spell from PAHE won't work with HSH or AYGAS. HSH comes with its own version of the spell. Make sure HSH is installed last.

 

I will make a spell version that works on every NPC like the one in HSH, for DoM. We can ask CliftonJD if it would make sense to have it included in PAHE.

sounds good, long as it doesn't have additional requirements

[CliftonJD]

2 minutes ago, Faustling said:

 

This is weird. My virus check identified SE Stack Dump Checker as an exploit and promptly quarantined it. But looking inside the .bat, I don't see anything wrong:

 

 

@echo off
findstr /m /C:"Dumping stack" "C:\Users\%USERNAME%\Documents\My Games\Skyrim Special Edition\Logs\Script\papyrus.*.log"
if %errorlevel%==0 (>NUL powershell "(new-object -COM WScript.Shell).popup('You Had a STACK DUMP, the line in the cmd window tells you which log.')") else (>NUL powershell "(new-object -COM WScript.Shell).popup('all ok!')")

 

likely an overly cautious virus checker noticed the stack dump checker as watching for windows script popup without checking for harmful intent

[Faustling]

55 minutes ago, CliftonJD said:

likely an overly cautious virus checker noticed the stack dump checker as watching for windows script popup without checking for harmful intent

 

Bugger, I just created an exception, and Malwarebytes still doesn't like it.

 

Apparently, I have to run it as Administrator, but I have to do that manually, Windows won't let me change it permanently.

[CliftonJD]

16 minutes ago, Faustling said:

 

Bugger, I just created an exception, and Malwarebytes still doesn't like it.

 

Apparently, I have to run it as Administrator, but I have to do that manually, Windows won't let me change it permanently.

try compatibility mode for windows older version. if you're on win10, it might be enough to choose compatibility for win7, if not just experiment with compatibility for vista or xp