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Chaos63

Chaos63

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I normally drop a compliment or I'll give suggestions, bugs with a compliment so the mod author knows that I'm being nice about it.

 

That's nice of you but fuck it when it becomes a necessity, know what I mean? It's like it dares me to be a hostile dick(which I am) and get banned for it even if I usually wouldn't. I've seen one guy get banned for not attaching a blowjob to a valid legitimate bug report once, couldn't believe my eyes.

It's the main reason why I don't post on the nexus anymore, it's like everybody's made of glass.

 

GrimReaper

GrimReaper

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Well I'd quote what I'd said directly if I could, but it appears what I wrote at the time was deleted (probably by the mod author himself). Personally I don't see a point in ruling out criticism on a website that more or less promotes a type of art form. As long as someone's not nasty about what they're saying, opinions are always valuable. Getting nothing but positive feedback may be great for the ego, but does nothing to help someone improve.

 

I will grant you that my complaining that the animation was "unrealistic" may have been pointless, but the rest of what I said was very constructive and I always try to be helpful whenever there is something that I have criticism about. Not to mention I love most of XP32's other animations and still use a lot of them, it was just this particular one that for me felt like it didn't really fit well with the other animations. And that's fine... it is only my opinion. I didn't insult him or say it was the most horrible thing I'd ever seen lol. It just isn't to my particular tastes, and that's to be expected with any sort of art. I didn't mention there that it was disappointing there wasn't any variety in the available animations in the genre either. I only mentioned it here because I really do feel that way generally speaking. But I know that the target audience of majority of mods are probably not women, so people can take what I say with a grain of salt.

 

Sometimes people don't like my art, or the subject of it (and say so) but what you do is ignore it. :shrug: That's just life. Pampering people wont do them any good... it only encourages them not to grow a backbone and cry when someone says something they don't agree with. Criticism doesn't always have to be negative either, sometimes suggesting how to improve something can sound that way though. There are many things which factor in to any single art piece... such as what was the intent? What is the subject matter? Does it carry its own particular style? Is it aiming to be realistic or stylized? What is the setting? That sort of thing. If Skyrim is a medieval setting do I expect women to be walking like top-models? Not really. lol But that's just me (and God knows I've plenty of mods which don't fit in the setting, just that my "extended disbelief" only goes so far with certain things).

 

 

Okay, hopefuly my last post on this topic:

 

Negative criticism, from my understanding, basically boils down to "you should not do that" or "that should not exist", implying some kind of imperative. Now that's important when dealing with matters where something is at stake, like you saying "hey let's go rob a bank!" and someone saying "no, you really shouldn't do that. it's a stupid idea and you will hurt people that have done nothing wrong". Or something similar, where the outcome actually matters.

 

Constructive criticism on the other hand is a way of giving people advide or feedback on how the thing you wanted to achieve could be better if you do this and that. Not condemning the thing you created ifself.

 

That being said, I don't think you did any wrong. You thought a few animations were out of place, which can be useful information for the author if what he wanted to achieve was a coherent package where everything looks, well... coherent. My initial point was about the dude that just posted "this mod is creepy and caters to the wrong crowd" as a comment.

Yezabelle

Yezabelle

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Specifically the panel in which you call the blue wing`ed dude gay and reference rimming in the Sovengaard allusion, that's pretty well on the side of homophobia if it's not between people you know.

 

So yeah, and aside from that, there was a fair bit of gore.

 

 

I don't find anything offensive about it, but Nexus isn't in the business of telling people who report themselves offended to deal with it.

 

For example.

 

Say someone's a Swede, and someone posts a panel in which they specifically deride the Viking\Norse theme of Skyrim with comments where Swede was used synonymously* with "idiot," or something else insulting, in the way you used gay there.

 

Will most Swedes give any kind of fuck?  No, no sir they will not.  But it only takes one telling the 'minges they found themselves insulted and the smoking gun of using the word describing their immutable characteristics (race\gender/nationality/sexuality, etc). for them to have to treat it like it's offensive.  

 

They have the paradoxical job of deciding what is and isn't offensive without being able to write things off as inoffensive.

 

 

But yeah, the ban was harsh; hopefully you can appeal it, maybe not post your comics directly there but on a blog\other forum's thread lynked in your sigg?  They should've at least warned ya.  As for calling you homophobic, I'm not saying you are, but if you find that offensive then maybe you should consider people find using the word gay as an insult... offensive?

 

*edit: synonymously not anonymously, sorry

Eagle331

Eagle331

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It's not about the content Bro, In Nexus, it's about the ego. It's as big as an ostrich's egg. You talk to them, you have to refer to them as GOD moderators or you're screwed. LOL ROFL

ButchDiavolo

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Hmm, I am still very new here and I hadn't seen the "offending" cartoons until just now. Personally I think they are awesome, funny and actually recognisable. There are quite a few annoying characters in Skyrim. And lawd knows I have wanted to hurt them (the Sapphire cartoon is sooo apt! love it). So the cartoons do resonate with me.

 

Anyway, I guess the (most) offending cartoon is the Lord Harkon one. I have yet to meet him in the pixel in Skyrim, so I can't comment on his Vampire Lord appearance yet. But that is beside the point I guess. The (perceived?) offense seems to be that Harkon is called a gay gargoyle. How one reacts to that is, I guess, based on your personal references. I myself am gay and I don't perceive this as a homophobic statement nor am I offended by it. The use of the word gay doesn't immediately imply homophobic sentiments in my opinion. It seems to me that a lot of people are hypersensitive to the use of the word. Which is fine and in a lot of cases homophonia IS implied. For a "fine" example of this, see the post of Blabba above mine. In that particular case, a forum ban was definately warranted, since the poster has very outspoken and negative views on homosexuality and more over had the intend to offend. However in the case of the cartoons, no where do I get the feeling the intentions are malicious. So a ban and then an IP ban would be a total overreaction on the part of the Nexus moderator.

 

This is just my 2 cents on the matter. Do with it as you will :)

Guest endgameaddiction

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Welcome to LoversLab, butchdiavolo.

Guest Omega1084

Guest Omega1084

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I'll just leave this here:

 

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/1937369-thc7-banned/

 

It's kinda sad, but it's because of people like that which force the nexus staff to be so strict and that also somewhat undermine our arguments against the nexus being so draconian.

........I was gonna say something clever but this is absolute ass and I can't manage it.

Draconian methods form from this kind of behaviour. Damn. Just damn. :/

Grail Quest

Grail Quest

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The Nexus is a file depot. If people treated it solely as that, we wouldn't have problems. Honestly, if they just allowed ONLY bug reports, it would run more smoothly.

What the Nexus has steadily become and encouraged is a popularity contest social media site. Even mediocre mods will run multi-screen fancy-text advertisements. I see comments and trolling as a way for non-modders to tap into the potential popularity and attention from a social media site by trying to stand out.

 

Although a lot of people are attached to the social media aspect of it, after having been around it, I would say it is better to completely avoid getting engaged by that -- especially if you have become embittered by them. They offer free file hosting and free file downloading. Just take advantage of that -- get your freebies and go quietly.

 

None of what you say, no matter how important / offensive / clever you think it is -- none of it will matter in a week, possibly less. It will be buried and forgotten, or overwritten by having to go to work / pay bills / walk your dog / etcetera.

Unless you reported a bug or helped someone resolve a bug/game issue, in which case it will in fact matter, but people will probably forget you within 24 hours anyway.

 

So go ahead, get banned for the experience. I recommend it. I guarantee you will then sober up more and be nudged toward honestly thinking about *why* you even bother commenting there at all. Hopefully it will give you pause, cause you to not waste your time, and instead just click to the next mod / artwork / post / whatever and continue surfing.

 

 

ElectricSheep

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.What the Nexus has steadily become and encouraged is a popularity contest social media site. Even mediocre mods will run multi-screen fancy-text advertisements. I see comments and trolling as a way for non-modders to tap into the potential popularity and attention from a social media site by trying to stand out.

Couldn't agree more.

Kendo 2

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I'll just leave this here:

 

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/1937369-thc7-banned/

 

It's kinda sad, but it's because of people like that which force the nexus staff to be so strict and that also somewhat undermine our arguments against the nexus being so draconian.

Banning someone who says things like that is the correct action in any reasonable person's book.  Banning the OP of this thread in the same vein is not reasonable and draconian.

 

Banning a person who obviously has it coming has nothing to do with Michlov banning someone who he thinks did something wrong or Motoscorpio banning someone because they might do something wrong, or Linspuppy and Myrmaad bullying people with their yellow text simply because they don't like what they're reading, even though it doesn't break the Nexus TOS.

 

It is like the Nazis or Soviets arresting a known murderer.  That one arrest doesn't undo everything else those regimes did.

 

Anyway, I'm not directing this at you, blabba.  I just quoted you. :)

ButchDiavolo

ButchDiavolo

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I never even knew Nexus had a forum until I found LL and read people were banned from it. I have always treated Nexus as a file depot. And I see no reason why I should stop doing just that now :D From what I have seen so far of the forum at LL, it seems most people are helpful and level minded. Which is what a forum should be, imho.

UnEvenSteven

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What the Nexus has steadily become and encouraged is a popularity contest social media site. Even mediocre mods will run multi-screen fancy-text advertisements. I see comments and trolling as a way for non-modders to tap into the potential popularity and attention from a social media site by trying to stand out.

 

I read that and instantly thought of the New Vegas Image section of Nexus, that's one hell of a ego-stroking circle-jerk going on there.

legendarytoyou

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I'll just leave this here:

 

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/1937369-thc7-banned/

 

It's kinda sad, but it's because of people like that which force the nexus staff to be so strict and that also somewhat undermine our arguments against the nexus being so draconian.

I....ugh.  You know I've been hearing about the draconian methods that the Nexus has been using off and on depending on the mood of their moderators but for once this one is justified.  Please excuse my language.  I'm sorry it has to be said; that guy is a complete fucking cunt.  He needs to do the world a favor and throw himself under a train, he won't be missed.  Must be a spokesperson for the WBC  :-/

Chaos63

Chaos63

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Right. And then they use him as an excuse to shit all over people like OP for an offense 50 times the lesser.

That is not justified, and just like that they're back full circle to being melodramatic dicks.

lostami

lostami

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LOL Love your work man, really good stuff, the shitty art style is just part of the charm so don't you dare take an art class!

As for the nexus, well shit dawg, should have kept your mouth shut, he has the power not you, as with any website you live under the rule of those appointed power reguardless of what you think of them or there opinion.

In short reguardless if he was wrong or right, you dun fucked up boy.
he can do as he pleases and with a community as large as the nexus some times you gotta be a dick to keep order, if you don't people don't fear you and they try to see how far they can push you to get a reaction.

I won't judge his choice of action, but I can tell you what I think you should have done, kept, your mouth, shut. No offense to you of course, just saying it's best to keep a low profile in large communitys lest you attract to much attention from trolls, admins, or trouble makers.

Anyway keep doing what you do man, this is some funny ass shit!

DDproductions83

DDproductions83

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LOL Love your work man, really good stuff, the shitty art style is just part of the charm so don't you dare take an art class!

As for the nexus, well shit dawg, should have kept your mouth shut, he has the power not you, as with any website you live under the rule of those appointed power reguardless of what you think of them or there opinion.

 

In short reguardless if he was wrong or right, you dun fucked up boy.

he can do as he pleases and with a community as large as the nexus some times you gotta be a dick to keep order, if you don't people don't fear you and they try to see how far they can push you to get a reaction.

I won't judge his choice of action, but I can tell you what I think you should have done, kept, your mouth, shut. No offense to you of course, just saying it's best to keep a low profile in large communitys lest you attact to much attention from trolls, admins, or trouble makers.

 

Anyway keep doing what you do man, this is some funny ass shit!

 

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Guest Omega1084

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If Dante ever bans me i'm going to PM him pics of my junk which will cause his eyes to burst into flames, you can't ban what you can't see.  

........poor Dante.

 

O_o What?

I think he/she quoted you because your post was very umm.. special, but still correct. C:

Guest Omega1084

Guest Omega1084

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Well, yes, but it's not crazy to want to reply to the artist person and avoid mindlessly bitching about Nexus. :v

My first post on this was commending the guy for his art, then stuff happened and I started bitching too.

I think.

Though, I'm not sure the artist person even comes here anymore.

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