Reginald_001 Posted August 14, 2018 Author Posted August 14, 2018 55 minutes ago, Sulphur.4724 said: I've seen that issue posted a couple of times now. I don't think anyone has figured out what's causing it. It's something in your load tho, Ivy works fabulously for most of us. Her radio never works for me, I just go see her anyway, get the voucher, etc. I haven't had her pull this kind of shenanigans yet. If you figure it out let us know. We'll help if we can. ^This. 1 hour ago, Soulbringer1 said: Radio does start after you give her the voucher. There is a BIG Problem though. she repeats giving you Holotape and repeats asking for voucher. I now have 3 control tapes and she still does not follow. Just keeps asking for her Voucher. It's always a compatibility issue with other mods. It's always a compatibility issue with other mods. It's always a compatibility issue with other mods. It's always a compatibility issue with other mods. It's always a compatibility issue with other mods. Just to make this one clear: It's always a compatibility issue with other mods. Usually mods that overwrite Sanctuary in some kind of way, or the root cellar, you'll need to check there. ANY MOD that touches Sanctuary can break Ivy's radio. If you leave the Root Cellar before the entire recruitment process is complete (many do this, they leave as soon as the first popup came and never wait for the second one) then it can get in a recruitment loop. Use the holotape's advanced features, use the 'activate' or 'deactivate' options, see several pages back on how to do this, I'm getting a bit tired of having to post the same instructions over and over again. 1
Larrydd Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 Hi not working for me radio or going to the bunker, tried at top of load order and bottom still nothing dont have any mods that involve sanctuary not sure what else to do. ? is there anything else I need to do ie go to concorde or anything
Reginald_001 Posted August 14, 2018 Author Posted August 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, Larrydd said: Hi not working for me radio or going to the bunker, tried at top of load order and bottom still nothing dont have any mods that involve sanctuary not sure what else to do. ? is there anything else I need to do ie go to concorde or anything Can you post your mod load order for me. What's not working? Did you try the holotape advanced options? What was the result? Is Ivy not there at all in the root cellar? Or you can't recruit her? Is she there but she doesn't speak to you? 1
Larrydd Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 36 minutes ago, Reginald_001 said: Can you post your mod load order for me. What's not working? Did you try the holotape advanced options? What was the result? Is Ivy not there at all in the root cellar? Or you can't recruit her? Is she there but she doesn't speak to you? AS I go down towards sanctuary the radio is there but nothing happens, if I go to the bunker she is there and when I try and talk to her there are four options of speech for me, try them all but nothing happens, where is the holotape advanced options ? LoadOrder_Fallout4_2018-08-14T15-43-38.txt
Reginald_001 Posted August 14, 2018 Author Posted August 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Larrydd said: AS I go down towards sanctuary the radio is there but nothing happens, if I go to the bunker she is there and when I try and talk to her there are four options of speech for me, try them all but nothing happens, where is the holotape advanced options ? LoadOrder_Fallout4_2018-08-14T15-43-38.txt Try to disable this mod, then try again with a clean, fresh save (e.g. new game, or an old savegame that had not loaded these mods before, including Ivy): AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1 These mods are all suspicious to me, because I don't know them, or don't use them, in the past there were issues with scrap mods, because they overwrite certain parts of Sanctuary and many of the world exteriors. Scrap Everything - Core.esp=1 Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp=1 PlayerComments.esp=1 Ivy is *not* compatible or supported with multi follower mods, see the previous pages of this thread. I am in the process of making her more compatible by testing these mods out, 1 by 1, to see what kind of conflicts I run into, but the AFT is most likely causing all of your issues. 1
chubjub Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 57 minutes ago, Larrydd said: AS I go down towards sanctuary the radio is there but nothing happens, if I go to the bunker she is there and when I try and talk to her there are four options of speech for me, try them all but nothing happens, where is the holotape advanced options ? LoadOrder_Fallout4_2018-08-14T15-43-38.txt Its best if you use FO4Edit to make a merge patch playercomments.esp and ivy both edit or add to dialogue
Larrydd Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 15 minutes ago, chubjub said: Its best if you use FO4Edit to make a merge patch playercomments.esp and ivy both edit or add to dialogue thanks for your help
Sulphur.999 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Reginald_001 said: Try to disable this mod, then try again with a clean, fresh save (e.g. new game, or an old savegame that had not loaded these mods before, including Ivy): AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1 These mods are all suspicious to me, because I don't know them, or don't use them, in the past there were issues with scrap mods, because they overwrite certain parts of Sanctuary and many of the world exteriors. Scrap Everything - Core.esp=1 Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp=1 PlayerComments.esp=1 Ivy is *not* compatible or supported with multi follower mods, see the previous pages of this thread. I am in the process of making her more compatible by testing these mods out, 1 by 1, to see what kind of conflicts I run into, but the AFT is most likely causing all of your issues. AFT causes issues with a lot of things. If you read the mod author's page he recommends running it BY ITSELF. Now a savvy modding enthusiast can get around it, or learn to live without whatever it's messing up if the gains are worth it. That's why I use it, but I expect problems and am not surprised when I find them. The radio not working for example. As long as she plays nice when I get the voucher the heck with the radio. Of course, it comes back as soon as you redeem her so there's really nothing to be mad about. Yet anyway. For me. There's a lot to like about AFT but it's one complicated piece of work and as such can cause much consternation and gnashing of teeth. Wear a cup.
Larrydd Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Reginald_001 said: Try to disable this mod, then try again with a clean, fresh save (e.g. new game, or an old savegame that had not loaded these mods before, including Ivy): AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1 These mods are all suspicious to me, because I don't know them, or don't use them, in the past there were issues with scrap mods, because they overwrite certain parts of Sanctuary and many of the world exteriors. Scrap Everything - Core.esp=1 Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp=1 PlayerComments.esp=1 Ivy is *not* compatible or supported with multi follower mods, see the previous pages of this thread. I am in the process of making her more compatible by testing these mods out, 1 by 1, to see what kind of conflicts I run into, but the AFT is most likely causing all of your issues. Started a new game with those mods uninstalled, no luck
chubjub Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 your next would be do a clean install of ivy maybe with ivy last on the load order if you use mod organizer 2 or similar then you could de-activate all you mods and just leave ivy loaded , If all is ok then add few at a time until you find the culprit
Soulbringer1 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 5 hours ago, Reginald_001 said: ^This. It's always a compatibility issue with other mods. It's always a compatibility issue with other mods. It's always a compatibility issue with other mods. It's always a compatibility issue with other mods. It's always a compatibility issue with other mods. Just to make this one clear: It's always a compatibility issue with other mods. Usually mods that overwrite Sanctuary in some kind of way, or the root cellar, you'll need to check there. ANY MOD that touches Sanctuary can break Ivy's radio. If you leave the Root Cellar before the entire recruitment process is complete (many do this, they leave as soon as the first popup came and never wait for the second one) then it can get in a recruitment loop. Use the holotape's advanced features, use the 'activate' or 'deactivate' options, see several pages back on how to do this, I'm getting a bit tired of having to post the same instructions over and over again. Okay but that does not follow the quest progress. FIRST is Listen to radio Signal. WELL there is none. Secondly, (AFTER, speaking with IVY in cellar), She sends you to find a Voucher. How can you give her a voucher that you dont have??????? You cant recruit her until AFTER You speak to her the first time. It all Starts with the Radio . I am trying again and totally clean re installing her. Explanation for this loop makes No Sense. It does not Follow the quest line. Any other suggestions?
Reginald_001 Posted August 14, 2018 Author Posted August 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Soulbringer1 said: Okay but that does not follow the quest progress. FIRST is Listen to radio Signal. WELL there is none. Secondly, (AFTER, speaking with IVY in cellar), She sends you to find a Voucher. How can you give her a voucher that you dont have??????? You cant recruit her until AFTER You speak to her the first time. It all Starts with the Radio . I am trying again and totally clean re installing her. Explanation for this loop makes No Sense. It does not Follow the quest line. Any other suggestions? You don't need the radio. After speaking with Ivy a quest object appears in your pipboy. Follow the quest, it leads to the voucher. You can walk directly to the root cellar in Sanctuary. 4
darkshade87 Posted August 15, 2018 Posted August 15, 2018 Does Ivy have support/dialogue for Nuka World and Far Harbor, or just the base game?
Sulphur.999 Posted August 15, 2018 Posted August 15, 2018 16 minutes ago, darkshade87 said: Does Ivy have support/dialogue for Nuka World and Far Harbor, or just the base game? Base game I think. He's working on adding the DLCs now.
Reginald_001 Posted August 15, 2018 Author Posted August 15, 2018 2 hours ago, darkshade87 said: Does Ivy have support/dialogue for Nuka World and Far Harbor, or just the base game? Check 2 and 1 pages back for an update on the DLC! 1
Guest Posted August 15, 2018 Posted August 15, 2018 Thrilled! YES! Collecting all the magazines and bobbleheads patiently waiting before taking Ivy out of Commonwealth. Terrific news! Thank you thank you and Thank you!
Adviser69 Posted August 16, 2018 Posted August 16, 2018 Just a heads up: there is a CTD incompatibility with Ivy and the latest version of Amazing Follower Tweaks. Dheuster had made some experimental changes as of the latest June releases, and some of these do not play nice with Ivy. When the plugin is below Ivy, I get script lag and CTD. If it's above Ivy, it doesn't fire at all. If you must use AFT while using Ivy, use version 1.16 or earlier, which is the last one to my experience that doesn't cause conflict with Ivy.
HylianSteel Posted August 16, 2018 Posted August 16, 2018 16 hours ago, Adviser69 said: Just a heads up: there is a CTD incompatibility with Ivy and the latest version of Amazing Follower Tweaks. Dheuster had made some experimental changes as of the latest June releases, and some of these do not play nice with Ivy. When the plugin is below Ivy, I get script lag and CTD. If it's above Ivy, it doesn't fire at all. If you must use AFT while using Ivy, use version 1.16 or earlier, which is the last one to my experience that doesn't cause conflict with Ivy. I use the newest version of Amazing Follower Tweaks along with Ivy and I've got no issues at all. Ivy's ESP is up higher than AFTs if it matters any. Edit: I looked over AFT and Ivy and they don't even alter the same scripts. 1
Sulphur.999 Posted August 16, 2018 Posted August 16, 2018 17 minutes ago, GuerillaTech said: I use the newest version of Amazing Follower Tweaks along with Ivy and I've got no issues at all. Ivy's ESP is up higher than AFTs if it matters any. Same. No issues here.
steve6419 Posted August 16, 2018 Posted August 16, 2018 7 hours ago, Adviser69 said: Just a heads up: there is a CTD incompatibility with Ivy and the latest version of Amazing Follower Tweaks. Dheuster had made some experimental changes as of the latest June releases, and some of these do not play nice with Ivy. When the plugin is below Ivy, I get script lag and CTD. If it's above Ivy, it doesn't fire at all. If you must use AFT while using Ivy, use version 1.16 or earlier, which is the last one to my experience that doesn't cause conflict with Ivy. well I am using 1.18 and I am not having any trouble with ivy and she I right above aft so don't see why you are having trouble with her It is weird just thought ide let you know and latest version of aft is 1.19 I have not downloaded that yet
Adviser69 Posted August 16, 2018 Posted August 16, 2018 To be fair to everyone, I am also using the AAF version of RSE and Deviously Cursed Wasteland (With their dependents of course). These are the only new mods besides the update to Ivy that I added to my load list before starting a new game. When I had AFT above Ivy, it wouldn't activate (i.e. I didn't receive the AFT readme or controller). When I had it below Ivy, the game kept having random CTDs. When I removed AFT, I haven't had a CTD since. This is with another fresh start up to the point i started crashing before and beyond. This was with update 1.19. It could be just RSE or DCW, or a combo of those with Ivy that caused AFT to freak out. What I do know is that Papyrus started throwing errors between the two that they didn't used to before. Deactivating Ivy produced the same result, no CTD. So I made a choice of AFT or Ivy, and I chose Ivy.
Reginald_001 Posted August 16, 2018 Author Posted August 16, 2018 It sounds to me that AFT is overwriting Ivy's scripts somehow, which is very strange as I've made sure to rename them from vanilla scripts. Reinstalling Ivy after updating AFT might be the trick, by refreshing all her scripting this might fix errors. I will try to make this more clear. DO NOT USE MULTI FOLLOWER MODS WITH IVY AND EXPECT IT TO WORK NICELY. 1
Ghostman7nz Posted August 16, 2018 Posted August 16, 2018 I doubt the AFT is causing the ctd issues for you, It's very likely devious devices that is causing the issues. As much as I used the fetish items in that mod, the errors it kept causing me finally forced me to uninstall it. It is especially harsh when paired with companion overhaul mods.
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