Deviously Cursed Loot SE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[zarantha]

33 minutes ago, unmog said:

Yea I tried hitting her and stuff~ but yea just waiting for an hour helped. Didnt bother making a bug report since I figured it out so just left the message there to help others~

Did notice another problem tho, apparently Im missing the textures for the latex "bikini" tho I wouldnt call it a bikini. Anyway, I checked bodyslide again just to be sure and I dont have any files for it. Would you be able to give me the body slide file for it I need? >.>

The latex corset skirt? I don't have any latex that calls itself a bikini. It should be experimental latex if you're looking through the folders

latex_bodyslide.7z

 

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[Starphyre]

I'm running 8.3 and except for a couple minor issues it seems fine. I completed a working girl contract (yay) and I'm about to try Leon's quest from scratch.

 

Leah's stockings. In 8.2, when I was flailing about building everything I could think of after I messed up my chastity bra, I fixed the clipping issue with her stockings. Not sure how, or what I built to do so.  In 8.3, they clip again. I've tried batch building everything I see in any group with DD, DCL, or Latex in the title, but they are still clipping. 

 

Also, previous to my installing 8.3 during the dollmakers "Tie me up" quest, I'd locked a rubber hood on Delphine.  That texture apparently went away entirely, and now her head is a white mass.  (or it's built wrong). As above I batch built anything with DD, DCL, Latex, and in this case I looked for rubber, but didn't see anything.

 

Any chance you could point me to the proper outfits to build, @zarantha?

 

My last minor issue is that the Bannered Mare seems to now drag my framerate down slightly, has weird lighting flashes coming from seemingly random places and has spots flicking about the screen which makes it look like I'm watching an old copy of The Wizard of Oz (old, grainy film, in other words) I'm hoping this is because I upgraded midsave, and my new char (when I start it shortly) fixes it.

[unmog]

yea that was the one I think, doll maker sells one called a "bikini" tho.

[zarantha]

2 minutes ago, Starphyre said:

I'm running 8.3 and except for a couple minor issues it seems fine. I completed a working girl contract (yay) and I'm about to try Leon's quest from scratch.

 

Leah's stockings. In 8.2, when I was flailing about building everything I could think of after I messed up my chastity bra, I fixed the clipping issue with her stockings. Not sure how, or what I built to do so.  In 8.3, they clip again. I've tried batch building everything I see in any group with DD, DCL, or Latex in the title, but they are still clipping. 

 

Also, previous to my installing 8.3 during the dollmakers "Tie me up" quest, I'd locked a rubber hood on Delphine.  That texture apparently went away entirely, and now her head is a white mass.  (or it's built wrong). As above I batch built anything with DD, DCL, Latex, and in this case I looked for rubber, but didn't see anything.

 

Any chance you could point me to the proper outfits to build, @zarantha?

 

My last minor issue is that the Bannered Mare seems to now drag my framerate down slightly, has weird lighting flashes coming from seemingly random places and has spots flicking about the screen which makes it look like I'm watching an old copy of The Wizard of Oz (old, grainy film, in other words) I'm hoping this is because I upgraded midsave, and my new char (when I start it shortly) fixes it.

Do you still have the CBBE SE slidersets installed?

 

CBBE SE Slidersets (DD_DCL_New_CBBE.7z): https://mega.nz/#!vZYigKIK!UiVKq-ajRGvkssSLiuLhK8mPa7gqpn4-GmZvPDWMDk8

 

The other issue is going to have to do with light sources in the bannered mare. i don't think it's because of dcl, unless maybe dcl is conflicting with something. It's more likely to be a lighting or weather mod or an enb.

[Starphyre]

they may have gotten overwritten.

 

I'll look at reinstalling them again.

 

(I have an enb installed, yes. But it had been interacting fine until I upgraded. As I said, I hope it's some kind of a conflict because I updated mid-game. I want to play through Leon's quest from scratch, and install 1 follower mod, and then restart. 

 

I'd hope to have the outfits fixed before then too.

 

oh, a question in general I guess. Since it appears that Leah is broken even in LE DCL 8.3 can anyone recommend a mod to make your follower your dominant?

[zarantha]

32 minutes ago, unmog said:

yea that was the one I think, doll maker sells one called a "bikini" tho.

a lot of stuff just reuses meshes and textures. Building the 3 latex corset skirts should build it for everything referencing those meshes.
 

If you want the exact paths, let me know and I'll post tomorrow. I'm pretty sure most folks aren't interested in chasing this down through the CK or xedit.

[zarantha]

38 minutes ago, Starphyre said:

they may have gotten overwritten.

 

I'll look at reinstalling them again.

 

(I have an enb installed, yes. But it had been interacting fine until I upgraded. As I said, I hope it's some kind of a conflict because I updated mid-game. I want to play through Leon's quest from scratch, and install 1 follower mod, and then restart. 

 

I'd hope to have the outfits fixed before then too.

 

oh, a question in general I guess. Since it appears that Leah is broken even in LE DCL 8.3 can anyone recommend a mod to make your follower your dominant?

There's expansions to the XDFF stuff. these will conflict with each other. If XDFF is bugged on something, these will be bugged too.

 

 

 

 

[unmog]

5 hours ago, zarantha said:

a lot of stuff just reuses meshes and textures. Building the 3 latex corset skirts should build it for everything referencing those meshes.
 

If you want the exact paths, let me know and I'll post tomorrow. I'm pretty sure most folks aren't interested in chasing this down through the CK or xedit.

Naw its fine the file you sent fixed it. I think something in my file presets must have got overwritten by something that updated them and left it out. Not a huge issue anyway just my ocd

 

Edit: However there's another weird one that maybe is effecting only me... ya know the rubber slave gloves? Not the ones from the restrictive set. I cant seem to find them in body slide either. Thinking that maybe one of the cbbe updates I got overwrote stuff for sure now~

[Starphyre]

5 hours ago, zarantha said:

There's expansions to the XDFF stuff. these will conflict with each other. If XDFF is bugged on something, these will be bugged too.

those are oldrim mods. would need conversion, yes?

 

[MeatSackGamer]

Okay.....

 

So I got a little peeved at certain oddities of SE 8.2 including inconsistent dialog timing. That is where some lines would flash only momentarily while others lingered. Combine this with the other issue of choosing to be Leah's plaything and I gave up and tried going back to the posted SE 6.4 beta version (no Chloe  in that version but this is for science) to see if its Leon quest outcomes work and noticed some text is fine but there is some that is still a runaway trainwreck. I'm beginning to think maybe the major problem is that Fuz Ro D-oh isn't a requirement when it maybe should be.

 

And btw regarding the Leah slave collar thing I had tried 5 times before with no success and took a break. On relaunching the game I tried again and it did finally work 2 times but failed on the 3rd so I'm really thinking it must be something with the timing because I didn't press any key/button or whatever to advance the dialog in any of those attempts.

[Starphyre]

43 minutes ago, MeatSackGamer said:

I'm beginning to think maybe the major problem is that Fuz Ro D-oh isn't a requirement when it maybe should be.

Fuz is listed as a requirement. 

 

7 hours ago, zarantha said:

Do you still have the CBBE SE slidersets installed?

Ok. here we are, back at the bodyslide batch build step, and here I am, as confused as ever., This time, I'm going to go ahead and ask.

 

so. the slidergroup directory in the new CBBE archive.

 

 

#.url

 

And then, the slidergroup directory actually in my SSE game.

 

 

 

#.url

 

and lastly, opening the DDXHeretical xml.

 

#.url

 

So, as you see, the xml contains both UUNP CBBE and UUNP/CBBE files for the chain harnesses. These files operate on the same item, and when you batch build with the heretical group selected Bodyslide makes you choose between them. Which is the right set to build?????

 

Edit. That didn't work at all like I thought it would.

[MeatSackGamer]

1 hour ago, Starphyre said:

Fuz is listed as a requirement.

No it's not listed for the SE 6.4 version:

REQUIRED MODS

 

SexLab/SexLab Aroused Redux SE
ZaZ Animations Version 7 SE: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/100381-zaz-animation-packs-for-se/

Devious Devices SE: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se-beta/

Bodyslide and Outfit Studio

 

AND ANY MOD REQUIRED BY THESE!!!

 

None of those required mods need it either as they have no dialog that needs to be slowed down. And none of the posts linking to any of the recent 8+ versions say it either. It is an oversight that really needs to be corrected.

 

The oldrim/LE version 8.3 does list it.

 

EDIT:

Other thing I noticed with the 6.4 version is some characters have the dark face bug. It appears there would be 10 character models that are affected:

xx0BD503
xx0BDA6C

xx0C0B19
xx0C1B46
xx0C1B48

xx0C9851
xx0C9DD2
xx0C9DD3
xx0CCE99
xx0D628E

as these seem to be missing their facetint DDS and TGA files.

 

The 8.1/8.2 I do recall having some of the female imperial guard corpses in the Helgen cave at the start having dark faces but no one outside of there seemed to be affected.

[tznvlw]

@zarantha

 

Very thanks for your hard work

and i found your ported dcl mod, it seem to include only CBBE files, have not UUNP files? for uunp user, how to upgrade to 8.3?

another another strange question about Chloe, i have found the Chloe and  imperial corpse (task mark) but the quest cant be completed (the task mark always stay there (imperial corpse), i have checked the corpse)

 

[MeatSackGamer]

1 hour ago, tznvlw said:

@zarantha

 

Very thanks for your hard work

and i found your ported dcl mod, it seem to include only CBBE files, have not UUNP files? for uunp user, how to upgrade to 8.3?

another another strange question about Chloe, i have found the Chloe and  imperial corpse (task mark) but the quest cant be completed (the task mark always stay there (imperial corpse), i have checked the corpse)

 

If that's what I think it is the marker is pointing to an ash pile that is supposed to help if you came there later on after escaping Helgen to retrieve Chloe and get past the collapsed tunnel. What you actually need to do is find on one of the corpses a torn note and read it to advance the quest.

[tznvlw]

7 minutes ago, MeatSackGamer said:

If that's what I think it is the marker is pointing to an ash pile that is supposed to help if you came there later on after escaping Helgen to retrieve Chloe and get past the collapsed tunnel. What you actually need to do is find on one of the corpses a torn note and read it to advance the quest.

very thanks

[zarantha]

8 hours ago, Starphyre said:

those are oldrim mods. would need conversion, yes?

 

A lot of stuff on LL is mostly for LE still. But my bad, converting is so easy for me, I forget it's not the same for everyone.

 

More XDFF rules for Deviously Cursed Loot Version -- should be ok as is, cathedral optimizer found nothing to optimize. Esp can be resaved in the CK if you prefer to have everything at form 44. Meshes (in caliente tools and meshes folders) should be ok as is, but can be optimized with cathedral optimizer or sse nif optimizer. scripts are ok, nothing needs fixed for SE.

 

Make any follower a XDFF Dom for Deviously Cursed Loot  -- no conversion needed, just a single script and esp. Esp can be resaved in the CK if you prefer to have everything at form 44.

 

Devious Followers (10 April 2019) -- here's the link to the SE port https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/8481-devious-followers-172-se-lozeaks-oldrim-port/

 

[zarantha]

7 hours ago, Starphyre said:

So, as you see, the xml contains both UUNP CBBE and UUNP/CBBE files for the chain harnesses. These files operate on the same item, and when you batch build with the heretical group selected Bodyslide makes you choose between them. Which is the right set to build?????

Just had this same question in the DD SE thread too

 

26 minutes ago, zarantha said:

Compare the slidergroups from the bodyslide patch (left) and DDx (right). The patch added the groups with the space, so use those.

 

[zarantha]

6 hours ago, MeatSackGamer said:

The oldrim/LE version 8.3 does list it.

Actually, the requirements are the same between SE and LE. We are only converting, not re-writing the mod. But I admit it is is confusing that it's not listed as a requirement on the SE page too. I think it was left out by mistake. Please do install and use fus ro d-oh.

[zarantha]

6 hours ago, MeatSackGamer said:

EDIT:

Other thing I noticed with the 6.4 version is some characters have the dark face bug. It appears there would be 10 character models that are affected:

xx0BD503
xx0BDA6C

xx0C0B19
xx0C1B46
xx0C1B48

xx0C9851
xx0C9DD2
xx0C9DD3
xx0CCE99
xx0D628E

as these seem to be missing their facetint DDS and TGA files.

These can be fixed by going into the CK  and exporting the facegen files for npcs starting with dcur_

 

https://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=Dark_Face_Bug

 

The facegen fix I put up a few pages ago are for the dead imperials in the Chloe quest, they needed to have a check removed that made them a preset before the facegen would export.

[zarantha]

6 hours ago, tznvlw said:

@zarantha

 

Very thanks for your hard work

and i found your ported dcl mod, it seem to include only CBBE files, have not UUNP files? for uunp user, how to upgrade to 8.3?

another another strange question about Chloe, i have found the Chloe and  imperial corpse (task mark) but the quest cant be completed (the task mark always stay there (imperial corpse), i have checked the corpse)

 

I was half asleep when I posted that, sorry. That is what I have installed, I just zipped it up.

 

I have fixed the link to point to the converted installer, so people can install UNP or LAL as they want now. Try this:

8.3 DCL fomod

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hoDRTh5zVyTEddr8Kum-ewE-4UBgFp05/view?usp=sharing

 

There's a note on one of the corpses in the spider room, you may have picked it up without realizing it. You need to read it to proceed.

[Starphyre]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

A lot of stuff on LL is mostly for LE still. But my bad, converting is so easy for me, I forget it's not the same for everyone.

No, no. It's cool. I'm trying to work up the wherewithal to try my own hand at converting. 

 

There's an oldrim mod called Petproject that has had my attention. And slaverun Delux SE. (which is where I might have got the idea Fuz was listed on the requirements page.) 

 

I might install them on different playthroughs. But if I go after petproject, I'll have to convert it myself.

[Starphyre]

*pounds head against wall*

 

So, I installed Devious followers SE. I tried to fix my FNIS issue I described in another thread, and I went back in to play the game.  In exploring the Devious Follower capabilities somewhat, I had Leah give me a chastity harness. (note, before this everything was working.) The harness clipped. and clipped badly. Nothing in the front below her breasts was visible.  OMG WTF?  I hadn't even built anything new in bodyslide. A tense exploration through my inventory of bondage gear (and since bondage lover is checked, I have nearly everything) revealed that now chastity belts, bras, restrictive corsets, and  the thighs on restrictive boots, and leah's formal latex boot stockings, are all broken, but were working earlier. 

 

I hopped out of game and rebuilt all of those items, without morphs. still clipping. I rebuilt with morphs again. I was so frustrated at this point that I directly expanded the DCL New CBBE zip directly into the data folder manually, overwriting everything, and then rebuilt again. Still broken. 

 

At this point....can you at least let me know which are the latest slidersets, and nifs for those items?

 

Gonna try reverting the FNIS sexy walk rule. I doubt it will work, ….but I'm pretty sick of fighting with this and having it break for no apparent reason

[serranna]

I have 2 questions I am curious about.

Whenever I do the "A Little Bondage Adventure" quest, my follower always disappears. Out of curiosity, after starting that quest I decided to teleport to where my follower was to see where she was put. When i did that, I moved to a place called holding cell, or something like that. It was a very small room that had my follower in it. It also oddly had Leon, Leah and another character I was never able to see, but saw dialog for. Her name was just "A Girl". She always seems to be standing behind me when I teleport to that room because every time I turn around to try looking at her, my game abruptly shuts down. I also tried to spawn a copy of this character to where I was located (in a different save) and again this character closes my game down. I'm curious as to who this is, and why she might be crashing my game? I have issues with the game randomly closing down on me without giving any error message (among other issues I have) and I'm wondering if this girl may be part of the reason if she actually appears in normally accessible parts of the game. When I searched for her ID in the console, it confirmed she was from this mod.

 

Secondly, several months ago I was randomly playing around, having fun with one of my saves with no intention of actually saving my progress. I was in a dungeon somewhere and out of nowhere, the "A Damsel in Distress" quest procced. I had messed around in my save too much to consider saving my progress and trying the quest out, so i reloaded. I have never seen it happen since. Is there anything I can do to increase my chances of getting this to happen because I really want to try it out, but can't figure out how to force it. I was equipped with a lot of rubber gear at the time, but in repeated efforts to duplicate the circumstances in which it started, I have yet to have it happen again.

[Starphyre]

7 minutes ago, serranna said:

Secondly, several months ago I was randomly playing around, having fun with one of my saves with no intention of actually saving my progress. I was in a dungeon somewhere and out of nowhere, the "A Damsel in Distress" quest procced. I had messed around in my save too much to consider saving my progress and trying the quest out, so i reloaded. I have never seen it happen since. Is there anything I can do to increase my chances of getting this to happen because I really want to try it out, but can't figure out how to force it. I was equipped with a lot of rubber gear at the time, but in repeated efforts to duplicate the circumstances in which it started, I have yet to have it happen again.

This one I can answer!

 

In the MCM for DCL, I think in the events tab, there's a weighted chance for that quest to start. It's default is like 2% (I'm not sure which subsection it is in, but it's on the right hand side of the screen.

 

[Addramyr]

Hey all, anyone having issues completing the Chloe quest line?

 

If you have not done the quest, dont click the spoiler.

 

Spoiler

I'm at the point "Talk to the shop owner" but she does not give me any options to complete the quest?